Ive been reading 80 chapters of this garbage just to found out the secret to the world outside the walls is litterly MUH HOLOCAUST MUH INTERNMENT CAMPS WE DINDU NUFFIN WE WUZ GOOD TITANS N SHIETTT
This is now going to devolve into >group a is evil and disgusting, look how they had this little girl be eaten by dogs. while >group B are just oppressed good boys,they just tryna live their titan lives n shieeet, the marleys are litterly JUST HITLER
This whole series might as well go down the fucking trash, idk what the in the fuck the writer was thinking when he decided on the backstory for all this but this is just disapointing and shit. >just read the manga bro fuck you fags
Do you have a single person in your life that doesn't have to feign interest in what you have to say out of pity?
Kevin Garcia
Don't worry both factions are Evil
Kayden Parker
Isayama wanted an Oscar for the live adaptation of his work.
Julian Gray
>shitty series that only got popular because of edge >surprised the writing is shit because it only needs to be good enough to keep the sheep entertained I don't know what you expected?
Nathan Morris
That actually sounds worse
Josiah Hill
>the entirety of the royalty and flashback arc Those years were painful
Nathaniel Peterson
a fucking leaf?
Henry Rogers
not any different from ww2
Carter Cooper
I gonna rewrite my fanfic
>Eren x Harem >Eren x Grandmother
Nolan Price
>he thinks ww2 wasnt a morally indiffernet war
Logan Long
Not to mention that all manga are designed to be thoroughly milked until they stop making money and then are immediately cancelled and the author is usually forced to shit out an ending.
Ryder Miller
You have to be 18 to post here, you know?
Gavin Fisher
Forget about the holocaust and discuss the fact that EM is canon
Camden Sullivan
>manga is no where near the ending >still makes a shitty turn in the story This is not an excuse
Benjamin Evans
If you get this triggered over a story development that you have to spout a bunch of Sup Forums lingo just fuck off and dont come back
John Garcia
Yes.
Benjamin Roberts
Am I seriously the only one that kinda liked how the whole titan thing turned out? Sure the relation between this and WW2 is a little silly, but its waay better than "muh titans are aliens" or "muh titans are a punishment from god". In the end, we got answers. Properly explained answers and a further plot setup that goes beyond the mystery "what are titans?". Although I really hope this won't turn into a generic titan vs titan where titans functions as mechs.
Christopher Gutierrez
>Sup Forums lingo >actually retarded story direction entirley made for basic bitch emotional reaction kill yourself Dont have to have Sup Forums mentality to realise how contrived this arc is
Grayson Lopez
There is literally nothing people wouldn't complain about. Supernatural anything always gets people coming in saying "STUPID STUPID! THIS IS ALL STUPIIIIIID!"
Jayden Turner
If you don't see this story direction as the pinnacle of writing that it is, you are a Hillary shill and need to suck your own dong
Luis Ortiz
>this arc See, this is why I know you're a retard. The whole series was retarded since the moment Eren decided to not stay dead when he was swallowed. This series is shit and you're shit for realizing it just now.
Nathan Williams
Where the titans came from isnt the problem here though. I mean, right now all we know is that its most likley the titans came litterly from the devil. But thats not the problem This story is now going to be about Group A being """evil""", since the mindless titans aren't becoming a problem anymore now the writer needs a new villian. And that means making Group A look as unrealistically villinious as possible. Its weak writing and i dont see it changing
William Price
>pinnacle of writing that it is Not him, but I hope you're baiting.
Eli Garcia
Wait, does this mean that SnK is essentially the Village by M. Night ShamamLongbingbong? This is delicious.
Brody Campbell
Yea yea, sure. The story has been pretty fucking stupid at times, but its nothing thats really new to me when it comes to gook writing.
This arc is just that bad i have to mention it, otherwise i would of dropped this series while ago
Ian Brooks
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Matthew Ortiz
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Andrew Roberts
Im not defending the story. I dont have a problem with it, is it overdone? Probably, but dont go full retarded Sup Forums MUH DINDUS you fucking worthless crossboarder, especially when its your fault in the first place for expecting stellar writing when you should've noticed the series only had so much it could do with its setting.
Ian Nelson
Tbh that was the first thing that came to mind when I read about what happened to this series. Just swap out Amish people with Jews.
Julian Morales
>Wahh Eren shoulda died in chapter 5 >Wahh Db shoulda ended at Freiza >Wahh Naruto shoulda ended at zabuza >Wahh Bleach shoulda ended at soul society >Wahh One piece skypie bla bla bla
God shut up, or go reread from before that point in the story if you hate it so goddamn much.
Adrian Fisher
Why are people so fucking obsessed with jews, hitler and ww2? The only connection with ww2 this has is the fact that wall people are from the axis powers Tech is ww1, internment camps and ghettos have always existed
Cameron Hall
But the whole point is that group A isnt completely evil. In the flashback it shows that both sides are extremely biased (Some believe the titan godess were evil while others believe she was a saint) and that there are no "good" side.
Blake Ramirez
people like disaster and wars,what else is the to say? sure there are people who cries and want peace but they are the most hypocrite ones after all
Ethan James
The real question is : HOW the fuck were you able to endure 80 chapters of this shit?
Brody Sanders
>Why are people so fucking obsessed with jews Nigger, you want to take another look at their arms?
Chase Myers
Do you not realise how over used the jew tropes are in most media? Its blatantly obvious the writer is making a comparison with jews during Adolfs reign. So obvious that its fucking cringy how over exagerated the arc is. From the bands on their arms, to the shitty way the marley treat the titan children, to the time period where everything is based.
The only problem is that the comparison isnt even fuckign consistant, and you have the titans making an underground movement (in some reference to the hitlers nat-soc movement)
Its too bad thats not what they showed through out the entire arc. There is litterly no marley member that actually acts human or even somewhat nuetral during the time. The only member showing an ounce of compassion was revealed to be a titan in secret. What youre refering to is just the rewriting of history. I mean anyone can agree that you dont treat people like shit because of their ancestors. So the marleys are still depicted as evil
If i find something similar thats atleast somewhat similar i will read shit just to get to it
James Brown
You do realize it's literally a bizzarro world? Don't try to draw comparisons The world is literally upside down, and the sun literally rises from the west If anything there are 2 possibilities 1, the bizzarro world has the blonde blue ayed aryans, so the eldians since they're represented by axis powers being German, Italian and Mikasa so Japanese, as the oppressed minority 2, it's a reference to Japanese concentration camps in the US because the Marleys are clearly British/American from their names It's probably a mix of both
Landon Thomas
you call Kruger a british/american name?
Joshua Clark
It doesnt matter what fucking universe the story takes place in. It was still written in our time, and in our world.
Jayden Martin
That's why Kruger was an Eldian So it's either of those, not everything is about jews
Jason Bailey
>This is now going to devolve into >group a is evil and disgusting, look how they had this little girl be eaten by dogs. >while >group B are just oppressed good boys,they just tryna live their titan lives n shieeet, the marleys are litterly JUST HITLER
Considering the latest chapters, I would be surprised if Isayama portrays the annihilation of Marleyans as a righteous act. This is the same guy who aknowledged Grisha as a biased individual and a crazy warmonger who commited attrocities and pushed his fucked up legacy onto his children. If Isayama truly believes that Group B's cause is just, why did he write Grisha that way ?
What I expect will happen, is the wall people (guys like Zackley, Pixis, Flocke and Armin) will push for the release of the wall titans to exterminate Marley and our main protagonist Eren will stand against it. Also we haven't seen much of the good Marleyans because so far we've seen things from the perspective of the biased Grisha and the persecuted Ymir, this leads to having false assumptions about their whole nation, assumptions you're having right now. Give it some time and we'll see the innocent Marleyans who don't throw rocks at Eldians, who don't stand for this war, and who are probably silenced by their own government.
Luke Hernandez
Trolls are too painfully obvious
Ethan Watson
he was pretending to be a Marleyan so if they all had british/american names like that it would definitely give away his identity
James Hall
Why is Grisha biased? And Eren would definitely be in favor or unleashing the wall titans to kill everyone Ending is gonna be an Eldian phyrric victory
Brayden Davis
He faked his blood test not change his identity Besides, for all we know he might have changed his name too but simply told Grisha his real nane
Logan Perez
>This whole series might as well go down the fucking trash it took you this long to figure it out?
Levi James
Stories like these hold readers attention with mystery. When mystery is gone, it becomes mediocre.
Xavier Clark
>gets triggered from his own limited allegory repository Try to imagine a world in which there has been more than just one group of oppressed peoples, depictions of which so annoys you that it asks one to have empathy with 'the oppressed.' Now realize you've always lived in that world, and that nobody is clean. Just about every ethno group has at one time or another been in a position to both oppress and be the oppressed. This very narrative speaks to a time when their positions were reversed.
Jaxon Johnson
>people actually read this for the story nigga why do you think nobody liked the Uprising Arc. The only reason this series has any sales is the Titan Fights and fujo.
Blake Wood
Do you have the reading comprehension of a mutt? The whole point of that story is to put the reader in the perspective that they haven't been on the side of humanity all along. They've been on the side of the ones they thougth were the enemy.
Some people shouldn't be allowed to post on the internet.
Connor Flores
pretty much
Dominic Richardson
>what is the easiest and most well known oppressed group of people to make comparisons to if you were a hack writer >make an entire arc centered around that. >people actually defend it and say its not what you were specifically making a comparison to
I find it funny anyone defends trash like this
Michael Hill
Are my posts really this depressing? People frequently reply to me with that image.
Julian Nguyen
But it really isn't Unless you're a jew yourself people will usually think of their own people being oppressed when they think of oppressed people, they don't think of jews
Juan Garcia
it is in a way, but i just thought it was a proper reaction. Thankfully i read all of this in a few days so i didnt waste my time all that much
Dylan Thomas
>>Wahh One piece skypie bla bla bla people actually say this? the height of the series was definitely cp9 >>Wahh Naruto shoulda ended at zabuza no one says this. >Wahh Db shoulda ended at Freiza it really should have.
Kevin Cox
Listen man, its great and all that you didnt suffer the vast amount of over-exageration and propoganda about the holocaust, but alot of people did. Most americans in fact, even europeans.
So if yorue a hack writer and you want to create oppressed group A and the evil oppressor group B, you're going to make alot of comparisons to the nazi jew memes.
The problem is, it really doesnt matter who you're trying to compare it to irl. This is shitty story telling any way you see it. and thats where my real complaint is
Brayden Johnson
I'm European and I did suffer through the propaganda, I just never cared, like most people don't really give a fuck about it And also the author is Japanese, why would they care about something happening on the other side of the planet almost a century ago?
Charles Martinez
Yes, basically.
Easton Brown
>Why is Grisha biased?
Just read his flashback, young Grisha (aka. "eldians are the chosen ones, marleyans suck, we should kill them all" guy, aka. what OP thinks the morale of the story is from Isayama's point of view) thought Eldians were superior and righteous because he believes that shit he read in the book. Isayama totally called out how retarded Grisha was.
>And Eren would definitely be in favor or unleashing the wall titans to kill everyone
He would not, and this was foreshadowed in the last chapter we saw him in, he's having second thoughts about all this, because it would mean : 1 - Sacrifice Historia, which is a big no-no, Eren cares for his friends. 2 - Going outside the walls, which brought back memories of Fay's death, implying that if they go outside they'll suffer a terrible fate.
There's been an ongoing misconception on this board that Eren is a constant ragetard who wants to kill everybody who gets in the way of his freedom. But this is the guy who willingly let himself be put in prison by the suvery corps, who has no issue with being part of an army that has him monitored at all times, who was begging to be eaten for the of sake everyone else and who has literally only 8 years to live. Time to let go of your headcanon character analysis.
>Ending is gonna be an Eldian phyrric victory Maybe, but I bet Eren won't take part in it.
Colton Clark
Because they were allied to those people? Nigger i dont know, i dont really care its STILL hack writing
Jonathan Jackson
I find it funny the world's setting had been held back for as long as it had to conscientiously avoid making any relatable comparisons, likely to encourage the reader to suspend their innate loyalties, or to throw them up in the air, and that as soon as that background is filled in a bit some will automatically leap to the conclusion that the mangaka was just chomping at the bit all along to follow a tired trope to its natural conclusion, and rush to identify with whom they feel their real world ethno loyalties should rest. Even if that trope isn't an element of that mangaka's culture, and even if he'd been so obviously playing with the concept for awhile now of turning a story of survival into one of oppression turned on its head. If it had been his goal from the start to make an allegory story about Jews suffering at the hands of nazis, there'd have been no point to keep
>Listen man, its great and all that you didnt suffer the vast amount of over-exageration and propoganda about the holocaust, but alot of people did And some people seems to have lost the point for their suffering annoyance.
Kayden Cruz
>there'd have been no point to keep the allegories obscured.
Jack Howard
Eldians ARE the chones ones Eldians can turn into titans Ackermans can enter berserk mode What can Marleys do beside legalized discrimination? There are a ton of alternatives to Historia dying And Eren's not a pussy, he wants revenge
David Ross
Nice one eye symbolism you lucifarian fuck.
James Thompson
>might randomly be bestowed the shifter power when the last one dies, you now have 13 years left to live >you can be turned into a grotesque monster devoid of thought or awareness >chosen ones
Isaiah Evans
>mfw the titans were jews all along
Jason Young
IIRC that doesn't activate until you turn into a titan And you don't unless you get injected Which brings interesting scenarios >one of the 9 titans dies >power is transferred to a mindless on Paradis >guy turns back >immediately eaten by other mindless >chain reaction until only one remains
Alexander Richardson
Go back to Sup Forums you fucking faggot. Not everything is about the fucking jews.
Justin Ramirez
>not about the jews >they literally have star armbands
John Ortiz
kill yoursefl faggot. Not everything is Sup Forumss fault you fucking monkey
John Green
>IIRC that doesn't activate until you turn into a titan said who ?
The point is, Eldians aren't chosen ones, not in a positive sense at least. They are regular people, who can turn into mindless tools of war.
Noah Green
You're really trying too hard to give yourself a reason to hate them for no reason. Pretty much every group of people that has been shit on heavily by other people had some kind of identification so people could fuck them over easily. Regardless, if an individual is not deserving of that kind of treatment, regardless of how similar they are to jews, niggers, or whatever else it is you hate, that's no reason to blindly get upset that people empathize with them. If I recall, the Nazi party themselves were very big about playing the "we were oppressed and shit". Of course, they weren't wrong about that, but they did use it as an excuse to fuck over innocent people simply for being similar to people they hated.
John Fisher
Oh yeah, sure, the OP being full of Sup Forums lingo is a total coincidence.
Samuel Ward
So wait, the titans were made by the Nazis?
So why the fuck did technology regress to pre-Industrial Revolution levels, except for the titan killing equipment?
Jace James
At no point has the story told you to sympathize with either side. The only reason the Marley seem "inhuman" is because they are a secretive and mostly mysterious faction so we don't know a lot about them.
Like what are you even complaining about? You were okay with Titans being the bad guys and the main characters trying to stop them, you were okay with the Reiss family being the bad guys and the main characters trying to stop them but now all of a sudden the possibility of the Marley being the bad guys is some absolutely terrible concept that goes against all logic or something? What the hell is wrong with you?
Eli Evans
Those are leafs. They are Canadians, they deserve it.
Luis Reyes
They look like weed armbands
Jayden Cruz
RULES OF NATURE
Isaiah James
Does it trigger you that much to be told that people don't like being treated like shit?
Carson Taylor
Nazis were the ones with the armbands, the Jews were forced to wear the star on their chests.
Shit man, get your history together.
Kevin Rodriguez
what Sup Forums lingo? Not all rhetoric has to do with Sup Forums, stop using them as a fucking boogieman
Kayden Garcia
>MUH HOLOCAUST >MUH INTERNMENT CAMPS >WE DINDU NUFFIN >WE WUZ GOOD TITANS N SHIETTT That's all Sup Forums lingo, faggot. If you want to discuss a series, do it without resorting to shitty identity politics.
Chase Torres
Technology on the other side of the ocean is ww1 level
Jayden Scott
>only Sup Forums uses this lingo Seriously off yourself
Colton Evans
Yeah, the manga went to trash when it went all ww2
Asher Ramirez
The salient point being that Sup Forums doesn't use this lingo. Fuck off to wherever it is where that lingo is their board's culture.
Levi Stewart
Yes, only Sup Forums frequenters use this lingo. Maybe you could explain why you think they don't have justification to dislike their oppressors, without resorting to Sup Forums buzzwords?
Jace White
I see WE WUZ used on all boards in different variants as well as dindu.
Not to say Sup Forums is right, especially since the worship a leftist retard like hitler, but their culture is in Sup Forums. This thread in and of itself is proof.
Bentley Fisher
>The only reason the Marley seem "inhuman" is because they are a secretive and mostly mysterious faction so we don't know a lot about them. Let's forget the part where the eldians live in concentration camps because their ancestors alledgedly were evil, get killed for fun and they're used as war slaves by forcing them to turn into mindless titans.
Isaac Gomez
I just want to be able to read this manga without having to constantly be reminded of the cognitively dissonant assertions of neo-Marleyan-socialist's that the Eldian suppression never happened and they can't wait to do it again?
Zachary Anderson
All those boards where people use that shitty lingo are filled with newfags and normalfags, that kind of shitty memespouting bullshit has no place on Sup Forums and only crossboarders use it. If he wants to discuss anime or manga he should explain why he thinks the characters are good or bad, and not resort to buzzwords from an especially shitty kind of identity politics. Real-world shit doesn't belong on Sup Forums.
Grayson Campbell
I understand you dislike cultures that constantly jump through mental gymnastics, but this manga is kind of jumping through it's own cognitive dissonance in the fact that there are no good or bad guys.
I know this will sound retarded, but anime is based on real life. As far as identity politics, that's what this manga is about.
Robert Howard
That's not an excuse to use Sup Forums ebonics. And while anime may be based on or inspired by real life, real life has no place in the discussion of it unless the series is specifically about history.
Leo Richardson
>people with shit taste mad because of how shit their taste is top kek, everyone told you to drop this piece of shit but you didn't listen. Cry more faggot.
Brayden Green
>the height of the series was definitely cp9 I dropped one piece after the fishmen island and I can say that this man is right