A lot of you aren't redpilled on the Meat Question. We on average eat way more meat than we did 20-30 years ago. It's been increasing ever since. We lost connection with how it's produced and just go to the supermarket and buy whatever is cheap or tasty. There are three big reasons to start eating less meat:
>1) HEALTH: There have been many studies done on mortality and meat, especially processed meat, consumption and there is a positive association between lower mortality in particular due to cardiovascular diseases, but also to cancer. Still not convinced that meat is bad for your health? Watch this documentary for further redpills: WHAT THE HEALTH youtu.be/hJAKWQ6dDpQ >2) ENVIRONMENT: The livestock sector may be the largest source of water pollution (due to animal wastes, fertilizers, pesticides), and it contributes to emergence of antibiotic resistance. It accounts for over 8% of global human water use. It is by far the biggest cause of land use, as it accounts for nearly 40% of the global land surface. It is a significant driver of biodiversity loss, as it causes deforestation, ocean dead zones, land degradation, pollution, and overfishing. Still not convinced that animal agriculture is one of the biggest environmental threat? Watch this documentary for further redpills: COWSPIRACY youtu.be/S-XP79o8gqQ >3) ETHICS: Animals are sentient beings, they feel pain and suffering. Putting them into death camps and killing them is unethical. Animals are not property or a commodity. Still not convinced that eating meat isn't morally justifiable? Watch this documentary for further redpills: EARTHLINGS youtu.be/BrlBSuuy50Y
Eating less meat is the rational manly side not the emotionally atached woman side. Why aren't you eating less meat Sup Forums?
examine.com/nutrition/is-saturated-fat-bad-for-me/ >Saturated fat, as an all-inclusive category, has not yet been shown to beneficially or adversely affect heart health. That being said, polyunsaturated and monounsaturated have been shown to improve heart health. So saturated fats are worse relative to the unsaturated fats, but they are not bad at all.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20685950 >SFA intake was inversely associated with mortality from total stroke, including intraparenchymal hemorrhage and ischemic stroke subtypes, in this Japanese cohort.
TLDR; Saturated fat isn't bad for you but if you eat refined carbohydrates and processed oils in abundance, you'll be a faggot just like OP and die sooner while crying how bat meat and saturated fat is.
Ryder Roberts
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26068959 >The study found no statistically significant effects of reducing saturated fat, in regard to heart attacks, strokes or all-cause deaths. People who reduced their saturated fat intake were just as likely to die, or get heart attacks or strokes, compared to those who ate more saturated fat.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26268692 >Saturated fat intake was not linked with heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes or dying of any cause. People who consumed more saturated fat were not more likely to experience heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes or death from any cause, compared to those who ate less saturated fat.
>Is OP a faggot? Yes.
Kayden King
>Go spread your degeneracy somewhere else. How am I spreading degeneracy? I'm stopping degeneracy. Again zero arguments, an emotionally attached meatcuck. If you've any arguments please present them. >hurr durr shill Kek, how so? >most mods are PETAfags Sauce? I don't believe it. >OP posts same shit everyday Because I've perfected the format Again zero arguments presented, butthurt meatcucks are desperate. They don't like to be confronted with their cognitive dissonance. Hitler was vegetarian, kikes run the meat industry.
Henry Campbell
What I'm getting from this is that saturated fat isn't necessarily bad for you, but having oxidized fats definitely are. Increasing carbohydrate and sugar intake makes this more likely, so an excessive combination of the two is likely to cause problems.
Henry Cruz
Tell me how much meat you used to eat so I can add that much to my plate.
Nicholas Ross
>hurr durr how so Basic intuition. >I don't believe it. I don't care. >Because I've perfected the format. That's what the last guy said. >Meatcuck There it is, you shill scrub. >Cognitive dissonance. Yep yep, you're a tool.
That is correct. Good notion!
That is why some recommend eating fat/carbs/protein separately, it is just how different the body reacts to each macro. Not to mention the micros, that's a whole different subject.
The whole health in general is very controversial subject and there simply isn't much of a proof for anything except that trans fats literally kill you from the inside.
Trans is literally cancer.
Nolan Walker
Jesus christ do you do this full time???
Charles Morales
>Saturated fats are good for you when it comes to testosterone. You can get testosterone from plants and seeds. >>Saturated fat, as an all-inclusive category, has not yet been shown to beneficially or adversely affect heart health. That being said, polyunsaturated and monounsaturated have been shown to improve heart health. So saturated fats are worse relative to the unsaturated fats, but they are not bad at all. So why would you be taking saturated fat at all, you don't need it. Also hurr durr the lipid hypothesis is false, it's fucking logical. >ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract Dr. Ronald M. Kraus, kek do you even know who that is? >Saturated fat isn't bad to you Keep believing that goyim, raise those cholesterol levels. Saturated fat causes endothelial cell damage: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16904539 Dr. Ronald M. Krauss bias research: drmcdougall.com/misc/2014nl/mar/krauss2.htm Optimal LDL cholesterol: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15172426 Dietary cholesterol effect on serum cholesterol: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1... Population studies inadequate for heart disease research: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1534437 Vegan diet reduces LDL and oxidized LDL: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18348715 LDL particle size and heart disease risk: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2663974/ Egg consumption increases LDL and oxidized LDL: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9001684
William Smith
Plants are for bunnies. Don't get cucked by the vegan meme.
justmeat.co is a good resource if you want to learn something more than OPs shitposting.
Adam James
Just had a bag of beef jerky for lunch and I feel great.
David Harris
Fuck off with your bullshit population studies, those don't work for checking if saturated fat causes hearth disease due to genetic differences. Also completely ignoring the other two arguments I've made, pretty convenient. I wonder who's behind this post. Edgy Fucked up one of the links Population studies inadequate for heart disease research: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/313701
Justin Rivera
The American Heart Association recommends limiting saturated fats – which are found in butter, cheese, red meat and other animal-based foods. Decades of sound science has proven it can raise your “bad” cholesterol and put you at higher risk for heart disease.
Argue that LDL cholesterol intake is good for you and get BTFO.
Julian Sanders
>You can get testosterone from plants and seeds. Sure, if you're a soyboy. You can get more from meat and fat. >So why would you be taking saturated fat at all Because your body still needs some and having more has no proven negative effects. >For every biased vegan mental, there's a biased opposite. What a shock. >Keep believing that goyim, raise those cholesterol levels. Most definitely, that sweet cholesterol also raises that good T, what vegans lack. But that doesn't matter, their general T is high and that's all that matters to them. >Vegans in general cutting out refined carbs and oils, leads to health benefits >egg consumption >MAY CONTRIBUTE Typical biased study with no results, as are all of yours. Can't expect anything less or more. There's nothing against meat, animal sourced fat or organs. The only time all of it becomes questionable is when comparing health-crazed vegans to a SAD eater, when vegans coincidentally skip the chronic inflammation trigger foods in favor of other but this still doesn't prove anything, as vegans, in general--still suffer from the same diseases in the same amounts even. Shocking, once again. You're still a tool.
Alexander Wilson
no
Dominic Reed
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Samuel Nguyen
An animal would eat me too. Fuck them.
Christian Mitchell
DRINK SOY MILK, BECOME ONE OF US.
Thomas Kelly
Fully based on the faulty science of the past. That is, why health and science in general are gravitating towards the real problems that simple sugars and refined carbohydrates generate.
Decades of sound science with no result in fixing or healing anything, unless taken the opposite routes of what is generally recommended. That might sound good to you I suppose.
In the end it doesn't really matter what you want to believe in. It's just a fact that low cholesterol levels are proven dangerous compared to high levels with no apparent risks.
Once more, such state as a high cholesterol in your blood only becomes a problem if you have caused yourself to suffer decades from chronic inflammation.
Nicholas Hall
Hey goyim, why don't you eat meat, we subsidize it with your money because we only want your best. I promise, we will tell you that you're sooo manly if you are a nice goy and get sick and die early......
Jack Diaz
Your arguments are on par of a child. Get necked you filthy shill.
Robert Howard
> that sweet cholesterol also raises that good cholesterol This is based on the premise that cholesterol raises testosterone. Even if it did, why would you care about that? You should be striving to eat low-fat and no cholesterol. A low-fat, no-cholesterol diet changes the dominant flow of cholesterol and fat from into the artery wall, to out of the artery. This change quickly reduces pressure inside the plaque; reducing the risk of rupture, and the clotting off of the blood vessel that too often follows.In addition to the profound cholesterol lowering effects of a low-fat, no-cholesterol diet there are many other benefits of a healthy diet that reduce the risks of heart attacks and strokes almost overnight.Animal (saturated) fats are the strongest promoters of blood clotting that we contact daily. The day you stop eating animal fats is the day your blood “thins” out; and in the event one of your plaques does rupture the blood is less likely to clot (the blood vessel remains open.) The reason aspirin and fish oil reduce heart attacks is because they also lessen the tendency for blood to clot (they “thin” the blood). Animal fats increase the production of prostaglandin hormones that cause the blood vessels to constrict which may slow the flow of blood and increase the chance of the blood clotting. One last factor is the sludging of blood cells that follows meals high in any kind of fat. Fat from the food enters the blood stream and coats the blood cells causing them to stick together. The clumped blood moves slowly and clots easily. Thus because of the multiple benefits of healthy food, diet is the foundation of any therapy intended to keep you alive and functioning fully. Scientific studies were revealing an ideal cholesterol–a level where heart disease is not found. This same level became a goal for pioneer researchers demonstrating reversal of atherosclerosis. Ideal cholesterol is 150 mg/dl.
Logan Perry
Let me shill some facts to you, because this thread isn't just about saturated fat.
Fatty acids substantially affect plasma LDL-C concentrations and therefore the risk for CHD. Although SFAs have a negative effect on LDL-C levels, unsaturated fat decreases plasma cholesterol. Possible mechanisms by which (n-6) PUFAs decrease plasma cholesterol include upregulation of the LDL receptor and increased CYP7 activity, whereas (n-3) PUFAs decrease plasma TGs by decreasing lipogenesis and VLDL secretion, increasing LPL activity, and increasing reverse cholesterol transport. By reducing plasma cholesterol and TG levels, both (n-6) and (n-3) PUFAs reduce cardiovascular risk.
HOW CAN YOU HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YOU DON'T EAT MY MEAT!
Jaxson Walker
>high cholesterol in your blood only becomes a problem if you have caused yourself to suffer decades from chronic inflammation High cholesterol in the blood causes atherosclerosis.
Yes, nature is brutal. Cats (and other animals, such as orcas) who “play” with their food do so as training and reflex-sharpening in their repertoire of hunting skills. However, as humans, we have risen above this and other animal behaviors. Furthermore, we don’t judge our behavior and morals against animals in other contexts, so why should we do it with regard to eating? After all, male geese gang-rape female geese too. Does that justify such behavior in humans? Should we roll on a rotting animal and eat excrement?
The (((studies))) you're citing don't measure amount of meat or what's eaten with the meat.
Vegetarians and vegans are more health-conscious in general, and tend to take better care of themselves, other than depriving themselves of meat. By contrast, most people that do eat meat (i.e., normal people) eat buckets of carbs and sugar with it, as well, whereas vegetardians tend not to.
A perfect example of why correlation is not causation. Eating only/mostly meat is one of the healthiest diets you can be on. See: carnivore diet, keto diet. The tallest and strongest races to ever live all ate tons of meat.
Nicholas Sanders
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Carter Hernandez
>The tallest and strongest races to ever live all ate tons of meat. Want to know what happens when your diet is mostly consistent of meat intake? You end up like the Eskimos, who suffer from atherosclerosis, severe bone loss, they are infested with parasites, and suffer from meat-derived chemical pollution.
Cameron Gonzalez
Abortion, like meat-eating, may be wrong, but even if it's morally equivalent to murder, it's absolutely impossibly to treat it as legally and socially equivalent to murder. You can't lock up all the meat-eaters, and you can't lock up all the women who have abortions. Check, and Mate.
>This is based on the premise that cholesterol raises testosterone No, it is based on that testosterone is MADE from cholesterol.
>Why would you care about that? I really don't, but I wouldn't strive to eating low-fat and no cholesterol diet. Simply foolish and mostly a meme from healthy mom bloggers.
Sure you can call low-fat a cholesterol reducing diet, but so what? Atherosclerosis as you mention, happens to be more defined as a 'plumbing' problem, where cholesterol happens to be one of those that get stuck. Also, just a theory and HASN'T been proven that high cholesterol causes atherosclerosis.
>High cholesterol in the blood causes atherosclerosis. Not factual. Merely an observation of what 'atherosclerosis' happens to include in the plaque.
All of that by me and you aside, it doesn't really matter in the end. What works for one, doesn't always for work for everyone. What matters is that you are healthy yourself and know everything that you possibly can about food in general, then find out what works for you. There's a lot of variations when it comes to being healthy and what OP is spreading, isn't one in the long term.
Evan Smith
According to the group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, fish have feelings too. Whenever my sons go fishing they always tell me, Dad it doesn't hurt a fish to get hooked. Well I watch and I see and I believe it's painful for the fish.” ~ Donald Trump
Leo Rogers
>COMMERCIAL ANIMALS ARE LARGELY FED GENETICALLY MODIFIED (GMO) CORN AND SOY Yeah, you shouldn't feed that crap even to the animals. It's very bad in overall for any living being.
Eli Barnes
Fuck off stupid cow. Human are omnivors, you stop eating meat, you are no longer human but a weak submissive fag herbivore, go eat grass with your fellow subhumans and stop pushing your degeneracy. You are like a religious spreading your shit everywhere, we will still eat meat like it or not. Stop trying to make people live the pathetic way you live give it a fucking rest. Kys
Josiah Davis
The Red Pill is that Humans are "The Other White Meat" t. Hannibal Lector.
Daniel Miller
You vegan faggots got tired of shitting-up other threads so you decided to create your own shitty threads? Veganism is all a part of Agenda 21. The elites want the public to get used to giving-up things they enjoy and things that are good for them. They want people to be weak and willing to cave to peer-pressure and some phony moral high-ground disguised as ethics. When people get used to giving up good things then they won't put up a fight when it comes to giving up their own rights and freedoms. Like living in tiny apartments that'd be considered inhuman to put livestock in.
It's nature-worship. Instead of doing what's good for the environment for the sake of human health and happiness, we're asked to sacrifice out health and happiness in the name of the environment.
Caleb Campbell
>this thread again I told you before and I'll tell you again. Veganism would be the worst thing to happen to the animals we eat. If we don't eat them, we have no use of them. If we have no use of them, we don't raise them. If we don't raise them, they suffer catastrophic population collapse. There is no greater threat to the animals than veganism.
Jackson Hughes
Because unless you're shooting testosterone, there should be no reason that people would care about not making it themselves.
Atherosclerosis is caused by diets high in saturated fat and cholesterol.
Colton Jenkins
The system sure has a strange way of showing its love for veganism and its hostility to meat consumption.
Jayden Davis
Really? Do you think anybody on Earth believes for a second that humans will suddenly wake up one morning and decide not to eat meat? What a silly thought! What will happen is that as people stop buying meat, the food industry will find it less and less profitable to produce as much meat and will breed fewer and fewer animals. The ultimate goal is zero. Simple supply and demand economics but it will never happen overnight.
Isaac Adams
You make the false assumption that there's only one system.
Logan Bennett
We don't have to eat meat, definitely not the amounts we're eating now. Also relevant:
>giving up things they enjoy t. hedonist. Wouldn't it make more sense for the system to supply you with things you enjoy so that your loyalty is ensured to them? >things that are good for them Meat and dairy is not good for you. >They want people to be weak and willing to cave to peer-pressure and some phony moral high-ground disguised as ethics. I don't see a lot of moral arguments in this thread. >It's nature-worship. Instead of doing what's good for the environment for the sake of human health and happiness, we're asked to sacrifice out health and happiness in the name of the environment. Incidentally, healthy veganism is healthy. Happiness is up to you and whether or not your self discipline can allow you to abstain from shitty food. All the while, the environment is saved. Win for all.
Julian Rodriguez
The ultimate goal is indeed zero, but what you're describing as "zero" is what the population of chickens and cows would be in a vegan society. You said it yourself. Less people buy meat, meat becomes less profitable, fewer animals are bred. Veganism would be like the Black Plague to livestock. It would be the most devastating and catastrophic tragedy to have ever happened to them.
Jayden Turner
Fuck of with you're animal proteins is bad shit that's why the japs that basically live of seafood live to be twenty bizillion years old and have mega low levels of heart attack shit meanwhile you're busy choking on Soros's cock whilst being simultaneously analy pounded to deth by the Moslems that you gave up meat for in the first place because eating pork offended them kys cunt
Alexander Ramirez
for every animal you don't eat I shall eat 3.
Robert Morris
That's the thing, only these vegan shills and such a like care about it, normal people don't need to mind it at all.
Atherosclerosis surely is an outcome of a shit diet. However what is debatable is what causes it. Insulin resistance plays a role, which is rather interesting as it also causes diabetes type 2 in the long run. Obesity in general as well, which has both of the diseases mentioned in common in the later years of life.
Personal anecdote, happen to eat a lot of saturated fat and by doing so, ingested cholesterol is rather high. This however, hasn't changed total cholesterol much at all when the time has came to check up. The human body is an EXPERT at keeping your cholesterol levels at check, or at least until you fuck your own body up by something else.
>happiness Kek, you can't be happy without meat? You must have a very sad life.
Jason Williams
>less animals being born into a disgusting industry how is that a bad thing?
Aiden Ramirez
So it's better for them to have never lived at all?
Jose Hernandez
Growing food necessary for good health is of importance.
Growing food for our food is also necessary.
Growing food of our food for our food, is not necessary.
Why do you consider ultimate goal as zero? Simple supply and demand is nonsense as well, locally grown animals will always be a thing everywhere in the world. Just look at the third worlder communities, they sustain themselves by animal husbandry all around them to actually keep them alive and well. Grains, fruits, plant and seeds are not ideal for long term survival, proof of this is everywhere--go survive in the wilderness. You'll die eventually of starvation after you have lost your fat reserves and if you are unable to score yourself fat.
You're an idiot. We don't have to eat meat, no, but it is still the preferred option.
Comparing an animal to an evolved human is pointless. Unless, you wan't to be on par with them, then just look at Africa or Australian aboriginals.
Xavier Brooks
Quality of life > quantity of life The worst thing to happen to livestock was their domestication for the purpose of being livestock. Why do you suddenly care about animal welfare now?
Jeremiah Davis
Yes.
Brayden Adams
Why pretend as though you care so much about these animals when you're telling me that you wish they had never been born? Would you say that, if some human were destined to be murdered, it would be better for that human to have been aborted? Your position here is only able to be maintained through absolute apathy.
Zachary Collins
>Atherosclerosis surely is an outcome of a shit diet. Diet high in saturated fat and containing cholesterol = shit diet
Jaxon Baker
>Diet high in saturated fat and containing cholesterol = shit diet Diet high in grains, seeds, fruits and vegetables containing abundance of carbohydrates = shit diet.
How easy to disagree on the internet.
Jaxon Diaz
Angry meat eater, kek. Is the cognitive dissonance kicking in. Depends on base line cholesterol and genetics. Definitely, they don't live happy lives. A life full with suffering and exploitation is not worth living. >Comparing an animal to an evolved human is pointless. No, not in all cases. Animals have taught and continue to teach us a lot about our selves.
If they shouldn't have been born to begin with then what is wrong with killing them?
Juan Morgan
Yeah, if anyone in the vegan future wants to eat an animal they will have to buy one locally, I'm not surprised by that. Human trafficking and slave trades still exists, but they aren't as common, fortunately.
>Grains, fruits, plant and seeds are not ideal for long term survival, proof of this is everywhere--go survive in the wilderness. You'll die eventually of starvation after you have lost your fat reserves and if you are unable to score yourself fat. Are you an AnPrim? Because I'm not. I have no plans on living in anything other than an agricultural society.
Mason Stewart
>SOYBOYS the thread
Thomas Moore
You should have put the third issue first to save everyone from reading your retarded post. What are cows going to do if we don't raise them to eat them? Go extinct that's what. Domesticated animals are not suited for the wild. Livestock are also sometimes the only food source available to raise in certain environments. What you're advocating for is effectively more expensive food. Don't you care more about the poor people user?
Jeremiah Sanchez
Diet high in grains, seeds, fruits and vegetables containing abundance of carbohydrates sounds a lot like the McDougal diet.
Tyler Carter
>You write like a woman. Idc.
Noah Foster
Genetics surely play a big role. That is why generally a diet consisting of your local food groups is the best. Not fruits imported from all over the world, or cultivated plants that didn't exist hundred years ago.
>No, not in all cases. Animals have taught and continue to teach us a lot about our selves. Yeah, like dogs. We learned to hunt together and thrived together, side by side. Beautiful. Nowadays we are just ruining them as a species. Feeding them terrible diets, as to ourselves, and hindering their growth to a point their skulls can not contain their growing brains and they become crippled in young age. I wonder what happens to dogs health if a diet mostly in meat is introduced in favor of kibble...
Feeling sorry for factory animals is understandable, its horrific. And if you don't want to support it, don't. Well sourced animal products aren't much more expensive, especially those that are grass-fed. Well worth it to invest.
Jonathan Reed
Tits or gtfo.
Jaxson Bennett
If humans where born inside of literal deathcamps, where they get taken away from their parents, with limited moving space, with constantly the same not preferred feed, where they make you as fat as possible, where they inject you with all kinds of hormones and medicine, where they hurt you if you don't cooperate, see all your companions slaughtered and eventually get slaughtered as well, then yes definitely not want a child being born in those circumstances.
Tyler Williams
Would you have executed Anne Frank?
Xavier Rivera
Because they didn't ask to be born and like every sentient being has a will to live.
Kevin Diaz
>Why pretend as though you care so much about these animals when you're telling me that you wish they had never been born? Because I care about the welfare of the animals, I care about the money going into health and I care about the environment that this industry is destroying. > Would you say that, if some human were destined to be murdered, it would be better for that human to have been aborted? Too many variables, and abortion is murder anyway, so it looks like a trick question.
Also it's funny that people totally apathetic towards animal suffering can call me apathetic. See? I can assume things too
Ayden Ortiz
Pretty much how we do it. You can buy half a cow from nearby, or sheep for quite a nice price. Can't buy a philippino to clean or tend on the yard tho, which is a bummer.
No, not an AnPrim. Just an hunter who loves meat. Agriculture isn't huge here, they have mostly changed towards growing hay/grass for animals instead of potatoes or wheat.
>McDougal diet. Something like that.
Grayson Jones
I'm male
Ian Diaz
>I care about the welfare of animals >That's why I want them to die and to never be born again >That's why I want to wipe them out and render them extinct
Adam Nguyen
Why don't you wanna eat bugs instead goy?
Gavin Cook
You're saying that it's worse for them to live. You are actively advocating their deaths. You're saying that it's worse for them to live on farms than it is for them to have never been born to begin with. The mandated conclusion is that it is an act of mercy to execute them.
John Sanders
>Go extinct Nope, we have sanctuaries, zoo's and petting zoo's also animal activists would never allow that to happen. > more expensive food No it isn't, plants are way way cheaper than animals. The reason why you don't pay 11$ for a burger right now is because all that government spending on animal agriculture.
Mason Martinez
Were you born male?
Hunter Sullivan
Obviously
Cameron Evans
>plants are way cheaper than animals Sadly though, plants do not offer same nutrition for the same price.
Oliver Wood
Veganism sucks.
t. Former vegan for 20 years who is glad to have left it all behind.
Brayden Bailey
It's not obvious because soyboys are hard to distinguish from trannies.
Xavier Price
You should move to Laos then fag. If you get leprosy at least you wont die of heart disease
But why, veganism is supposedly the healthiest diet out there, maybe you just didn't plan accordingly?
Good for you though, you saved yourself from the mental consequences.
Ian Carter
>sanctuaries There's no sanctuary in the wild for animals that have only survived until now due to fences and men with guns. You drop a cow into a forest and the cow dies. >zoos If you're really satisfied with 1% of the populations of these animals surviving in even worse enclosures than they had before, publicly funded, then I suppose. >petting zoos Average cost of a petting zoo ticket is 10 bucks. Guess how much it costs to raise a cow. Hint: A lot more than 10 dollars a day.
Oliver Gutierrez
Expensive for area's that can't grow plants as efficiently. Where we have a proper winter cycle. You can raise cows year around. Harvest hay during the warm seasons to feed the cows during the winter. If we aren't doing that. then we're importing food from further away. Didn't you say you cared about the environment?
Christopher Reyes
Don't see any reason to start eating meat again No He doesn't want them to go instinct meathead, he wants them to have decent lives with minimal suffering. No, I would rather have the animal freed and put into a sanctuary.
