Kokesh vs Molyneux

Its like watching two childhood friends who slowly drifted apart.

Who won?
youtube.com/watch?v=oQ3Mqp5bQsg&t=1725s

Did the bugman get crazier since Ron Paul era Sup Forums or did we?

Two bugmen. One jewish one goy(?).

His entire ideology was refuted and instead of changing with new information like Moneymeme did, he dug himself further and further into his extremist bubble.

Kokesh lost me once i was red pilled about IQ years ago. his points where shot down time and time again in this vid.
Kokesh was my old self and i now see the silly flaws i once had. Good reminder of where i was and where i am now.

>that faint hint of anguish in Kokesh's voice when Stefan refutes the NAP and all Kokesh can do mumble "But... I read your book about it years ago. I learned so much from it. Why?"

It was a pretty depressing debate desu.
Stefan changed and now is one of the most prominent voices in the right while Kokesh is still stuck to old ideas barely hitting 200 views a video.

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Kokesh should've said the increase in productivity would have offset the transfer payments to immigrants, It would've shut down the debate because all Molymeme would have to go on about is muh crime, muh IQ. Okay, so increase police presence. At the end it's a simple cost-benefit analysis and whatever reason you have for being against open borders better be pretty damn good to dismiss a doubling of productivity.

People say productivity is nothing but it is everything that differentiates us from the third world. Nativists would be able to either work less or make more money and live in a hotel of a country that would be constantly servicing your every need.

This is what capitalism does and it's beautiful, if you don't see the bigger picture than it's because you have deep hatred in your heart.

not a argumunt

>whatever reason you have for being against open borders better be pretty damn good

I agree. Even if Kokesh is totally wrong, I'm glad he still exists to argue for beliefs Sup Forums held years ago.
He has some """"interesting"""" ideas that I honestly don't want to see completely die.

Muh crime and muh IQ are legitimate arguments though. Every job held by an immigrant can just as easily be held by a white high school kid.

IQ and race are HUGE problems because nonwhites are literally a different subspecies and have totally different breeding habits they've developed out of necessity. Whites reproduce responsively because of the environments we evolved in. Niggers evolved to have 20 kids with the inherent expectation that 17 of them wouldn't survive. This is a problem in the first world.

Every job held by an immigrant can be done by a white person but jobs are costs, they are the things we don't want to do but have to do to get what we need. There are jobs that don't exist because nobody wants to do them.

So breeding habits differ that is what abortion is for and it has largely regulated the breeding habits of blacks where I live which was not the case for Roe v. Wade. Now Cuomo is making abortion free and the NYPD gets to take the credit for our record low crime rates.

I'm not saying that dysgenic breeding and crime are not important issues because they are but they are manageable which is why they are largely overstated

>abortion solves it
Tell that Commiefornia where healthcare literally pays the entire cost of abortion yet you have spics having 8 kids each anyway. The average IQ is dropping dramatically.

Intelligence and planning is the bread and butter of a successful society and you guys would toss that out the window for sake of some cheap labor where profits go to the top anyway.

In his defense, the (((Catholic Church))) is a big cause of that.

The worlds IQ is not decreasing any faster, when you move somebody across borders everyones IQ stays the same. Society will still reward intelligence and planning, I'd argue it would reward it even more because you would be recieving the comparative advantage of people who will work for nothing.

Come home Molyneux, abandon the civic nationalist cuckery.

Is he a civ nat? He's pretty openly against nonwhite immigration. Hes a national libertarian now if anything.

he rides the edge, pretty close. I want him to post a video. "Why I was wrong about National Socialism."

>you would be recieving the comparative advantage of people who will work for nothing.
no, a small number of wealthy business owners would receive that comparative advantage
there's a reason mass immigration and women entering the workforce was simultaneously able to boost the economy while overseeing a period of decline in the common man's economic power that brought us to the point where the average income can't support replacement fertility
the economy is greatly helped by these things, just no economy that the likes of us will ever be a part of

Women and immigrants distort the stats because they start at low wages. The CPI deflator is the only deflator that shows a decrease in wages, if you use any other inflation deflator like PPI they all show an increase in wages ever since women and immigrants came in which again also distorts the stats because when you measure average you have to divide the sum by all the new workers too.

(Nonwhite) immigrants start and end at low wages and come from places where those low wages are considered high. They rarely if ever innovate and simply serve as an easy commodity for the wealthy.

It goes beyond economics too. I don't WANT to live in a place where migrant no-go zones exist nearby. I don't WANT the cities built by whites to degrade once nonwhites realize whites have built an environment where opportunity exists and mass migrate there. I don't want to have to encounter them in my day-to-day life taking jobs that should be occupied by white adolescents.