Prove to me that the holocaust never existed

show me that the holocaust never existed.

I will break your """arguments""".

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argument from authority. I do not see any evidence in your image.

I do not see any evidence in your image.

get rekt Sup Forums

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Prove to me the holocaust existed

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial get rekt

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get rekt pol lol

you're trying too hard m8. Weak b8

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It happened, just not 6 gorillion.

Stupid fucking kike

a good jew is a dead jew

Pls explain y so many LIES were used 2 get the holoHOAX started?

Lies like the one that had Jew ashes/fat used to make soap? Turned out to be a lie. The one that had Jew skin used to make lampshades? Turned out to be a lie. The one that had giant electrical mats used to electrocute Jews? Turned out to be a lie. The one that said Bergen-Belsen had homicidal gas chambers? Turned out to be a lie. The one that had the shrunken Jew heads? Turned out to be a lie. The one that said steam chambers were used to kill Jews? Turned out to be lie. The one that said electrified water vats were used at Belzec? Another lie. The one that said 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz? Turned out to be a lie, since that number dropped to a little over one million, and that included non-Jews.

the point of the 2nd image is that your question is the wrong question.

No one says the holocaust never happened or didn't exist.

The question is: what was the event we call the holocaust, if not the one I learned about in school and through movies?

I want a source of what this picture says.

same.

You're asking to prove a negative sort of.
That said, this is Sup Forums holocaust denial is probably among the less retarded conspiracies that are spun here, though it tends to tie into those more retarded conspiracies.

you people have got to be the stupidest people in existence, you do know that right?

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The burden of proof lies with you. prove your own fantastic claims.

fpbp.
Get rekt kike!

youtube.com/watch?v=alyk2g10AZk

this is so incredibly childish, dumb, factually wrong and dishonest
please tell me we have better arguments

I have already done it above, retard.
the proofs are available, I do not ask you to prove that the earth is round.

I still do not see any evidence.

The gas chambers are a myth, just like the myth that Nazis made soap out of human fat (from Jewish concentration camp prisoners).

The soap myth began as a rumor in the camps. Soap given to prisoners was embossed with the soap company's initials, which Jews took to stand for "Pure Jewish Fat". That was the only "evidence" they had for the accusation, which was later debunked by historians, but Jews continued to repeat the soap myth well into the 1990s. Such is the power of stories that are believed on faith rather than evidence.

"Holocaust survivors" admit they heard rumors about gas chambers from other Jews before even arriving at a concentration camp. Thus if a Jew lost a loved one during the war, they simply assumed they had gone to the gas chambers. Even after the Allies investigated a camp and determined it was *not* a death camp, inmates still repeated the story because they felt they were doing a good thing for the "victims". Insodoing the myth is reinforced without a shred of truth or evidence.

Gas chambers existed, but were for fumigating clothes and bedding to exterminate Typhus-spreading lice. It was a life-saving measure in all camps (including army barracks with no prisoners). That's why survivors often include details like haircuts & showers (also to eliminate lice). Despite these efforts, typhus (aka "camp fever") resulted in 200k deaths by the end of the war (Red Cross reports). That's why the camps needed crematories. But those deaths weren't planned, in fact the Germans tried to prevent them, and total nowhere near 6,000,000.

You can hear directly from Jews, and learn more about the improbability of the story, why the numbers claimed to have been killed in gas chambers at Auschwitz is scientifically & technically impossible, in the following videos. Watch it & make up your own mind.

>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
hooktube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

>Auschwitz vs Science:
hooktube.com/watch?v=gM1Wa2MT1as

The burden of proof is normally on the one making the assertion. Nobody says it didn't happen, we say "where is the evidence?" It's interesting that Churchill didn't mention the Holohoax at all in his six-volume history of the war. Not once. Not even a footnote.

>b-but I heard 6 million died in the holocaust!
Normies swallow 6 gorillion because they never critically examine such a grisly topic, believing (((Hollywood))) and Allied history is 100% factual

>b-but what about the Nuremberg trials! Some Nazis admitted war crimes, so it must be true Hitler had a Final Solution to kill all the Jews!
Allies tortured German POWs. Gerstein claimed 25 million were killed, does that sound believable? At Dachau Nazis had their testicles kicked in and crushed beyond repair

At Auschwitz, (((Soviets))) said 4 million died in gas chambers. Today, the death toll sits at 1.1 million (from ALL causes), though still grossly inflated going by Red Cross reports
>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
hooktube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

>b-but it wasn't just Auschwitz!
At Majdanek, (((Soviets))) said 2 million were killed in gas chambers.
Now they say The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth:
hooktube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8

>b-but the Reinhard death camps: Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec!
There is little to support the claim that tens of thousands, let alone 1.3 MILLION died
>1/3rd of the Holocaust (debunked):
hooktube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

>b-but Nazis made lampshades out of tattooed Jewish inmates!
The lampshade myth comes from a propaganda film made to de-Nazify Germany by a US Psych Warfare unit
>Buchenwald: A Dumb Dumb Portrayal of Evil:
hooktube.com/watch?v=3HlPcaP9x5o

>b-but I've seen Steven Spielberg's Survivors of the Shoah!
Watch the following
>The Last Days of the Big Lie
hooktube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

>o-ok, let's suppose you're right. Why does it matter?!
It matters because no one can criticize the Jews without being labeled an anti-semite. Denial is ILLEGAL in 20 countries
>The JQ:
hooktube.com/watch?v=IKy3fCvMz-8

sophism and diversion of subject. we are not talking here about soap, but about the holocaust. you answer a question that no one has asked to give the illusion of answering.

Hey kids!

Today we're going to learn about Steven Spielberg's Oscar-winning documentary about the Holocaust, called "The Last Days". It stars several Holocaust survivors spewing complete bullshit, and even has Paul Parks in it! Paul Parks is a black soldier who claims to have liberated concentration camps, but there's just one tiny problem with his story.

You see, historians and military documents proved that Parks' unit didn't do any of the things he claims. Even better still, this was all known before Spielberg invited him to be in The Last Days. Parks had taken part in an earlier documentary about brave black soldiers and their role in liberating camps that turned out to be a complete hoax and had to be taken off of shelves!

Unsurprisingly, Spielberg's film was not criticized for this and he still has his Oscar. Because that's just how Jews roll, kids!

Oh, and one of the other "survivors" became a Californian politician and was instrumental in building the case for the first Iraq war using the same sort of atrocity lies that the Jews have used against the Germans. Neato, huh?

>The Last Days of the Big Lie
hooktube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

>I do not ask you to prove that the earth is round.
Be careful, you'll summon them

the soap myth / accusation was something that Jews levied against the Germans for decades following the war with as much fervency as the gas chambers.

the fact it turned out to be nothing more than a rumor that grew into a myth is an important and revealing aspect of the holocaust story.

sophism and diversion of subject. we are not talking here about soap, but about the holocaust. you answer a question that no one has asked to give the illusion of answering.

lmao

we do not see anything on your video. I want proof not two-hour links that I have to refute one by one.

> The burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies

Is the principle that one is considered innocent unless proven guilty.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

false. this rumor comes from one person, Rabbi Wise.

Historians of the Shoah have always considered the "Jewish soap myth" as one of the black legends of the Second World War, and not as a reflection of the reality of mass production of such soap in Germany at the time. time. This point of view is supported by several Jewish historians: Walter Laqueur, Gitta Sereny, and Deborah Lipstadt, as well as Professor Yehuda Bauer of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Samuel Krakowski, director of the Yad Vashem archives. (It remains, however, mainly in Israel, several memorials and cemeteries with soap presented as being made from human fat.)

>sophism and diversion of subject. we are not talking here about soap, but about the holocaust. you answer a question that no one has asked to give the illusion of answering.

see >we do not see anything on your video. I want proof not two-hour links that I have to refute one by one.

see pic related, it's a famous photo from inside the camps... notice anything different about the photo and the one published back in the 40s?

sorry here are the questions that were from the (((left)))

it doesn't matter where the rumor started, the fact it grew to such proportions and that random Jews started repeating it as fact tells you everything you need to do.

Just watch the old Donahue episode about Holocaust denial. Several Jews on the panel and phone calls make the soap accusation. That was in 1994.

So from 1945 to at least 1994 millions of Jews believed the soap myth and repeated it as fact.

it's not the same picture. a person is missing in the foreground and the person's head in the lower left is not in the same angle.

it is false, it is like those who say that before the second war the figure "6 million Jews" often came back in the press of the time. I ask for sources, factual evidence.

better quality

It is the same photo, but one is doctored and the other is not.

You think doctored photos only came about once photoshop was invented?

The point is they added the guy standing by the beam to try to make it look like starvation was a regular aspect of life in the camps. Which was not true until the very last months of the war when Germany was in complete disarray due to allied bombing.

totally wrong. point 2 for example is a fabric of lies. it's simple if nobody checks, but for once it's wrong.

In his memoirs of war, Charles de Gaulle repeatedly denounces the persecution of Jews by the Vichy regime. He also denounces the conditions of detention in the German deportee camps. Several members of his family and his entourage have been deported and Charles de Gaulle is particularly sensitive to this question.

Page 301-302:
"During the summer [1942, in France], the persecution of Jews was worsening, led by a special" police station "in concert with the invader. In September, as the Reich demanded an ever greater labor force from France, and the voluntary workers were not enough, a compulsory levy of workers was carried out. Total occupancy costs reached $ 200 billion earlier this month, double what it was in September of the previous year. Finally, the German repression doubled violence. During the same four weeks, a thousand men were shot, of whom one hundred and sixteen were on Mount Valerian; more than six thousand went to prison or concentration camps. "

>we do not see anything on your video. I want proof not two-hour links that I have to refute one by one.

wahh! I don't want to watch a video debunking a bunch of claims all at once, I want you to do it one by one for me in this thread!

fuck off, lazy ass... watch the video, and debunk the points in a new video. I will watch it. I'm waiting. None of you kikes have been able to address the plotholes in your movie script so far.

If you even want to think that evidence exist just search for evidence that it did happen neither side has factual evidence which leads to a conclusion that there were no evidence in the first place. Also the red cross story?

you also believe in similar videos or people "show" that the information "6 million Jews killed" often came back in the pre-war press?

if yes simple question:

who planned?

it seems to me a bit huge to swallow such a plan, over a century, globally
we are in the purest fantasy and hard

beyond 10 people a secret leak necessarily after a few decades

So who planned? concretely ?

sorry to think you have a brain and you can synthesize me a son of a bitch, if it's to eat the link no thank you, I'm here to discuss and refute your arguments, I do not have that to do than to refute dozens of links of several hours, do you understand motherfucker?

Why are there so many "Holocaust Survivors"?

so much you say?

a handful of 6 million, who had several children afterwards, who themselves had children ..

I do not see the problem ?

The camps were full of people when they were liberated. If there was some coordinated effort to kill them, I would think that those people would have been shot in the weeks before the allies reached those areas.

I'm waiting for the source

Come on don't be so retarded why the fuck is every survivor saying that his grandfather said. "mAh entire family died in a gassing chamber I survived and made your father or mother"??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? why did they kill everybody else except the guy that is telling the story oh yea too young. But mah genocide nothing stands right you fucking commie stop arguing and face that it has no logic behind it

Also show me proof that communism works. (((jews control communism)))

where is the relationship between the two demands? fucking degenerate mental retarded

HOW FUCKING NEW ARE YOU

It existed, but it's not important enough to accept the constant shilling from the Jews. So as an act of rebellion people try to act like if it never happened.
And to make it worse (they) use every power they have to make it looks like they're the good guys and the embodiment of human race when they're just greedy manipulative cunt.

It's the reverse Barbara Streisand effect.

>sorry to think you have a brain and you can synthesize me a son of a bitch, if it's to eat the link no thank you

english motherfucker, do you speak it?

you come in here with a commie flag, of course we're gonna assume you're FOR the official holocaust narrative dumbass

he's probably a Paki

his english is terrible

WE SUPPORT COMMUNISM
6. The people, under our guidance, have annihilated the aristocracy, who were their one and only defence and foster-mother for the sake of their own advantage which is inseparably bound up with the well-being of the people. Nowadays, with the destruction of the aristocracy, the people have fallen into the grips of merciless money-grinding scoundrels who have laid a pitiless and cruel yoke upon the necks of the workers.

7. We appear on the scene as alleged saviours of the worker from this oppression when we propose to him to enter the ranks of our fighting forces—Socialists, Anarchists, Communists—to whom we always give support in accordance with an alleged brotherly rule (of the solidarity of all humanity) of our SOCIAL MASONRY. The aristocracy, which enjoyed by law the labour of the workers, was interested in seeing that the workers were well fed, healthy, and strong. We are interested in just the opposite—in the diminution, the KILLING OUT OF THE GOYIM. Our power is in the chronic shortness of food and physical weakness of the worker because by all that this implies he is made the slave of our will, and he will not find in his own authorities either strength or energy to set against our will. Hunger creates the right of capital to rule the worker more surely than it was given to the aristocracy by the legal authority of kings.

8. By want and the envy and hatred which it engenders we shall move the mobs and with their hands we shall wipe out all those who hinder us on our way.

9. WHEN THE HOUR STRIKES FOR OUR SOVEREIGN LORD OF ALL THE WORLD TO BE CROWNED IT IS THESE SAME HANDS WHICH WILL SWEEP AWAY EVERYTHING THAT MIGHT BE A HINDRANCE THERETO. (The Biblical "Anti-Christ?")

Prove to me that it was a bad thing
>Mongolian
>Mutt pretending to be a Commie

10. The GOYIM have lost the habit of thinking unless prompted by the suggestions of our specialists. Therefore they do not see the urgent necessity of what we, when our kingdom comes, shall adopt at once, namely this, that IT IS ESSENTIAL TO TEACH IN NATIONAL SCHOOLS ONE SIMPLE, TRUE PIECE OF KNOWLEDGE, THE BASIS OF ALL KNOWLEDGE—THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE STRUCTURE OF HUMAN LIFE, OF SOCIAL EXISTENCE, WHICH REQUIRES DIVISION OF LABOUR, AND, CONSEQUENTLY, THE DIVISION OF MEN INTO CLASSES AND CONDITIONS. It is essential for all to know that OWING TO DIFFERENCE IN THE OBJECTS OF HUMAN ACTIVITY THERE CANNOT BE ANY EQUALITY, that he, who by any act of his compromises a whole class, cannot be equally responsible before the law with him who affects no one but only his own honour. The true knowledge of the structure of society, into the secrets of which we do not admit the GOYIM, would demonstrate to all men that the positions and work must be kept within a certain circle, that they may not become a source of human suffering, arising from an education which does not correspond with the work which individuals are called upon to do. After a thorough study of this knowledge, the peoples will voluntarily submit to authority and accept such position as is appointed them in the State. In the present state of knowledge and the direction we have given to its development of the people, blindly believing things in print—cherishes—thanks to promptings intended to mislead and to its own ignorance—a blind hatred towards all conditions which it considers above itself, for it has no understanding of the meaning of class and condition.

Churchill mentions the Holocaust in his books. As does Eisenhower.

If you stormweenies can't go 2 seconds without lying, why even bother showing up at all?

It was standard internment, Jews were processed, vetted and released. There were pools, theatres and recreational facilities.

People died as a result of allied bombing and typhus. But most didn't die at all.

Jews are a race of lying hypocondriacs, so obviously "oy vey you're literally killing me right now, I need to speak with yaw manaja!" Eventually turned into holocoasters and gas attacks.

Interesting to note, Jews complain about the cold and certain foods "giving them gas." It's possible the origin of the gas executions was actually just a case of indigestion.

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Give me the source of this video please

So we've hit the part of the stormweenie flowchart where you try derail the threads now?...

>the proofs are available, I do not ask you to prove that the earth is round.
Because its obviously flat

Stop pretending like you fought the war to save the poor jews. You didn't. Now that they don't need your wimpy slave nigger ass anymore they're fucking you over.

>inb4 poster is a jew

No pictures or documents goy, just trust us!

Where'd I say that, you illiterate buffoon? Reading comprehension ain't your strong field is it?

No it's just funny how new you are and trying to act smart through the most stupid statement I have ever heard let's see Churchill

youtube.com/watch?v=A94smJ9QJ5g&feature=youtu.be

>Churchill mentions the Holocaust in his books
Citation pls

Define "holocaust"

The gay little "21 questions" said he never mentioned the holocaust. He did.

References it multiple times, mate. In his books. Do a quick little google search. I'm sure you can do it!

The camps existed and people died due to disease and malnutrition, but not to the extent as which many claim. Most of those deaths were near the end of the war when the lines to the camps were destroyed, accelerating the process.

>implying
>defending subhumans
>implying
>still implying

calling someone illiterate when you're a mutt with a mutt language is low, halfbreed.

Go pretend to be human somewhere else Orc

Let's see eisenhower

November 14, 1941: 'None has suffered more cruelly than the Jew the unspeakable evils wrought upon the bodies and spirits of men by Hitler and his vile regime. The Jew bore the brunt of the Nazi's first onslaught upon the citadels of freedom and human dignity. He has borne and continued to bear a burden that might have seen beyond endurance. He has not allowed it to break his spirit; he has never lost the will to resist. Assuredly in the day of victory the Jew's suffering and his part in the struggle will not be forgotten.'


Gave you one, big boy. You can find the others.

So you didn't see that I posted this and the cause of this. I posted this

Churchill was an outspoken antisemite but hated the Germans more than anything. He even wrote that WW2 was unnecessary and he just had to "follow through with his drunken choices"


Hitlerorchurchill.info

But you're still wrong, sweetie.

Lol, that's your response? C'mon stormweenie.

that photo is your proof? where are the other 5999989?

I ask about the 6 million and gas chambers

give me the source of the video on the picture of max hamburger that was in the press before the war please

>This means holocaust
>Not that Germans boycotted Jewish Banks and Businesses and took their possessions
>I have never read about the Madagascar plan

Why the fuck did you just call me sweetie what the fuck was that. I never denied Churchill said it in his book or the retarded Eisenhower said it I said they are both retards that if they didn't exist the world would have been a better place

>November 14, 1941: 'None has suffered more cruelly than the Jew the unspeakable evils wrought upon the bodies and spirits of men by Hitler and his vile regime. The Jew bore the brunt of the Nazi's first onslaught upon the citadels of freedom and human dignity. He has borne and continued to bear a burden that might have seen beyond endurance. He has not allowed it to break his spirit; he has never lost the will to resist. Assuredly in the day of victory the Jew's suffering and his part in the struggle will not be forgotten.'
That is NOT a reference to the Holocaust. Nobody is saying the Nazis weren't anti-Semitic, but Churchill never mentions a programme of extermination, despite writing his history after the Nuremburg trials. There is nothing at all in Churchill's six-volume history of the war. When I took your advice and tried google, all I found was things like this:
quora.com/Why-doesnt-Winston-Churchill-mention-Holocaust-in-his-war-memoirs
Perhaps you could help me out a little more, by finding a reference to the purported genocide anywhere in Churchill's books.

Churchill was a drunkard cunt who couldn't keep sober for 5 minutes. At least Montgomery could make half decent speeches. Why people admire that fat morons speeches are beyond me. Most of them sound like people in a bar after 8 vodkashots

>I'm moving the goalposts
>hehe I'm so clever

Madagascar plan never came anywhere close to fruition, final solution got offered and they axed it. Do try keep up.

I met you halfway.

>hurrr it's not about it because I said so!

Can you guys even think for yourselves or must you always follow the flow chart?

>quora.com

youtu.be/OtAnuXl5VZY

That is true ? why this figure? I do not understand anything anymore, I'm lost

>Germany losing the war
>Food and supply shortage
>Germany blows it's own bridges and destroys roads to slow the Allies
>Germany feeds it's troops and let's the prisoners starve because why would you do the opposite
>"Muh Holocaust!"

well, why did Eisenhower's book about the war not mention gas chambers or the holocaust?

He devotes like 10 pages to discussing the camps and makes no mention of gassings and mass cremations.

Why would he do that?

That's kinda strange for him to omit from his experience about the war.

>muh supply line lie

Debunked. Over and over. Just jump to section 10 of your flowchart, we've done that one already.

>supply a mountain of evidence

>Nothing matters because Hollywood = historical fact to these brainlets

>they already committed so much energy to the idea of Nazis being an army of evil wippipu who kill you for not having blond hair and blue eyes

their genetic insecurity is personified by the idea of evil nazis, they will not let go of such a convenient boogeyman.

>Hurr durr I can't explain why the Holocaust was a bad thing
>Jews are good people
>I am a Jew

You don't have a say in this discussion schwein

That's interesting because it's even mentioned in the Band of Brothers book, by American soldiers who were actually there. Fuck off kike.

Please, find me a quote from Churchill which is about the mass extermination of the Jews. Given that it's meant to be the most shocking event of the 20th century, you shouldn't have much trouble. In a six-volume history, it should at least have a couple of pages. After all, he covers things like the Battle of the Coral Sea.

Awwww, it's so cute. Get's called out so he resorts to the final line "call them a Jew and cry"

Except it's not in historical data.

Google. It's not hard, sweetie.

Be honest, your IQ isn't exactly above average, right?

What about the hundreds of millions Stalin killed?