"You're all dumb racist losers and I will laugh when muslims replace you, kill yourselves" -Simon McCoy
I'm so glad I pay the licence fee!
Aaron Brooks
If "indigenous" Brits have kids with foreigners they still have an ancestor that descendent from the formation of the Kingdom of England (not the same as Britain btw so technically the English weren't pure Brits until another political reshuffling occured).
Right. So far we've learned that to be English means to be descendent from a specific a population in a particular area at the time of the formation of the Kingdom of England and English culture means anything created by any of these people, except when that isn't true because those people can be brown.
Am I missing anything?
Isaiah Flores
Not just a descendant of but descended from, i.e. most or a large number of your ancestors are in that group or more distantly (and more distant from 100% English) you might have ancestors in parent or sibling groups.
You are a dishonest shrew, you are a liar and you should be ashamed of yourself. You pretend to be honest, but you're just a fraud.
Wyatt Morgan
>Britmutt detected.
Jordan Thomas
>OH MY GOD Richaaaard you haven't thought this through at all have you?
Easton Hughes
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Christopher Moore
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Zachary Gutierrez
What "empiricism" did I miss? If something is so solid and defines the interests of an entire population, surely you should be able to identify the common unifying factor that makes that the case.
>who were clearly kebab Still not certified how you would define this. Or "English" for that matter. It's almost like this racial ethnonationalist stuff is entirely based on your feels rather than material reality. You're not actually able to cleanly define people into distinct groups so it's foundations is "lol you just know, man".
>bricking it and with good reason All false beliefs are concerning.
Kevin Robinson
Yes it fucking is, especially when it pisses off American ex-pats like yourself.
William Roberts
You are the retard who says blue and green doesn't exist because you can't pick a point on a gradient where it stops being blue and starts being green
James Lee
>most or a large number of your ancestors are in that group or more distantly So 51%? 52%? 60%? One side of my family are German in living memory. The otherside are Scottish Irish 3 generations ago. Good chance half of my family don't descend from the specific population that inhabited the area that was founded as the Kingdom of England.
Noah Butler
Just so we can understand your position, do you believe ethnic groups do not exist? Do you think all laws pertaining to the protection and respect of ethnic groups should be stricken, both domestic and international, since they are but a fiction? Do you understand what a continuum fallacy is?
Cooper Bennett
The more the more English and at certain points you don't care (like rounding), similarly with more distant groups - a half German is more English than a half Native American, for instance.
Easton Ramirez
Nice may may but also a straw man. I'm not saying ethnicities don't exist.
Logan Ortiz
bloody kikes
Christian Miller
Magic the memering
Oliver Jones
>I'm not saying ethnicities don't exist No, you're just saying that the fundamental premises of ethnicities don't exist and that you haven't waste time "thinking about" (read: deconstructing) non-white ethnicities.
Thomas Price
>no get shame on you
Oliver Clark
> I'm not saying ethnicities don't exist . Then define an ethnicity. Define Pakistani.
Julian Johnson
So someone with 51% descendent from the population that existed in particular location upon the founding of the Kingdom of England with 49% German ancestry is more english than someone who's, lets say, 80% descendent with 20% NA?
Jason Davis
>race is a social construct
Mason Bennett
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Andrew Cruz
Pakistani is a nationality, of which many ethnic groups are a part.
Jacob Taylor
It's time to k-k-k-k-kys
Jeremiah Price
Can someone give me a quick rundown on the reshuffle?
Jordan Peterson
>amermutt meme in 2018
Levi Jenkins
Can you be more specific than "German ancestry"? If it's Angle, Saxon or Frisian then absolutely.
Blake Harris
Fine then, define a Punjabi. Do they or do they not exist?
Adrian Barnes
Tories are out at the next GE.
Camden Moore
This is exactly what I'm trying to convey to you though, the fact that there is no one single factor we can hold up and say 'yep it's all about this' does not matter. People simply do not view the world in such a hardline scientistic way and they never have, it's only ever used as a weapon by the left to undermine other people who have threatened their (entirely feels-based and subjective, ironically enough) values. Again, you already know all of this- if we were to take a walk around Bradford you would not be saying 'well I dunno, you're gonna have to show me some research before I believe these people are foreigners....'. You don't seriously believe that to see a difference between a white Englishman and a Pakistani is a 'false belief' because it isn't based on fine-detail knowledge of genetics at all. That's just a cheap way to undermine your opposition and now that it's on its last legs you're doubling down on it instead of having a think about what to actually do next now we're collectively sick of your nonsense.
Samuel Baker
whiter than you, muhammad
Logan Gonzalez
Stop arguing with this Jew.
Wyatt Roberts
>Paying for a TV license Idiot. Dont bother with telly.
Aiden Harris
>not throwing your telly in the bin and telling everyone else to do the same.
Brandon Ross
We are the void. We are the future. We will assimilate the white race into our abyss.
Isaac Wilson
It's not scientistic, it's nonsense trotted out to defend atomisation. Science is full of categorisation, and sometimes loose categorisation. I was literally telling him "you don't understand but watch this video on evolution..." because the same thing comes up with species. Every thing is the same species as its parent, yet new species emerge.
Jayden Barnes
>the british being useful idiots just like in WWII
Landon Sullivan
>scientistic
Lucas Cook
>making jokes about every other country is fine when it's a CIA plot when it's America's turn
It's just bantz, yank. You have too much German in you, you've lost the ability to joke.
Wyatt Cruz
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Julian Sanders
You stupid American read what I replied to.
Kevin Sanchez
By 'scientistic' I mean the tactical pedantry 'show me a peer reviewed study to prove the meaning of the word "the"' routine, not actual science.
Jackson Kelly
>this thread
Kevin Harris
At no point prior to the fateful meeting on Bermuda had I sensed the full extent of the danger I was getting myself into by making the decision to travel into the land then already known as Mongrelia. Even upon arrival at the furthest bastion of humanity itself, for that it was then, I was at first unphased by the measures taken in the security cordon on the beach. The EU marines stationed there blew bubblegum and absently cradled their SMG's, as if what regarded them from the distant shore was somehow beneath them. But then I met El Viejo. Every day he came to the cordon perimeter as I interviewed the soldiers, pretending not to take notice, eyes fixed on the sea. It was clear that he was waiting for something. When at last I approached him, unable to ignore his poncho and sombrero any longer, he brushed my clumsy introductions aside and, with a narrowing of the eyes, said: "Escucha me, tonto estupido. Joo cannot triunfar. Nunca, joo ear me, gringo!? It all start when el mongrel mix it up with el mutt...ah, es no importa. Choo late now, esse. Choo late for all of us. Ellos es no huait, comprende? No huait, no black, no even red. Sus queso...es no even queso. I lose more than you ever find, esse. Life is mucho fatigoso now. Luckily, they come soon. Vienen! Sin deternlos!' And with barely a shake of his head he left me there, wondering whose view was skewed. But that was a mere moment. I was far too determined, far too young, and not least possessing of immaculate credentials. This mean paisano would not stop my quest for knowledge, I swore there and then. How wrong I was! The immensity of my error, of humanity's error in sailing into Chesapeake bay, did not fully dawn upon me until months later as I cowered in a cellar in Denver city, listening for howls on the wind. And it is here that my story ends. To anyone who might find this, I beg you, spread the word. They are...sin nombre. They are...vienen!... they are so close... Oh...madre de dios ayudame!
Christian Reed
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Carter Rivera
>it's okay when we shittalk every other country but how dare you mock us Fuck off you sad cunt
Punjabi ethnicity loosely refers to people who originated from the tribes of the Punjab region.
>People simply do not view the world in such a hardline scientistic way and they never have Good thing reality and objective material interest isn't defined by how one "views" the world. I thought you lot disliked post-modernism?
>if we were to take a walk around Bradford you would not be saying 'well I dunno, you're gonna have to show me some research before I believe these people are foreigners....'
If we're going to start drawing policies of inclusion and exclusion based on ethnicity and nationality, these are the questions one would have to ask. I agree that it is silly, but so is the entire premise of ethnonationalism.
Levi Russell
>is anti-English >is a probable scot
Adrian Taylor
Does anybody know any good Brit/pol/ alternatives that aren't Reddit?
Jason King
If your darker than me bean your going home Reddit
Jace Miller
*Mr bean
Michael Mitchell
If you want to sound like a retard, you'll use words like scientistic.
William Watson
>If we're going to start drawing policies of inclusion and exclusion based on ethnicity and nationality, these are the questions one would have to ask. I agree that it is silly, but so is the entire premise of ethnonationalism. You're a dishonest retard, and all of your arguments are just diversion and delay. >y-you can't tell me whether or not 53% chereokee compares to 12% austronesian 7% turkish and 4% alien >therefore we can't deport blacks who are definitely not English
Matthew Rivera
thread reeks of depression and hatred
Juan Thomas
>gets called out for not knowing a word because of american education >"haha if you use a word I don't know that means you're the stupid one."
State of you, mate.
Tyler Walker
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Samuel Perry
Brokenshire is possibly dying so has resigned from NI (no replacement announced yet). This may result in a byelection down the line if he is obviously not going to recover but nobody is talking about that yet as it is bad enough for the guy.
New tory chairman Brandon Lewis
David Liddington Is now Justice minister. The 5th in 5 years, which is a real big problem in such an important and large department, hopefully someone will stay more than 5 mins so they can get shit done.
Boris Johnson is still foreign secretary (I know, wtf)
Sajid Javid is doing exactly the same as before but his department has had the word "housing" added to it to make it look like May is doing something about housing.
Jeramy Hunt has arrived at number 10, he's been in there a while so he is obviously loosing his post as health secretary. he might be moved up to Danger Wank's old job or just sacked. Speculation is that Rees-Mogg is considering the health minister role.
Nathan Carter
> these are the questions one would have to ask
These questions aren't all that difficult even on a practical level. You have a relatively recent historical example with the Nuremberg Laws.
1/8 Jew - Considered German 1/4 Jew - Part German, can be citizen 3/8 or 1/2 Jew - Part German, can stay 3/4 Jew or over - Have to go back.
Luke Reed
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Charles Diaz
And never getting in again because all the boomers are dying.
Caleb Nelson
But what if they're 1/4 canine and 1/4 rabies? What then spencer?
Evan Flores
>not knowing a particular word >failure of american education this is how retarded you sound.
Landon Martinez
>Avg Tory voter is literally dying XD
Isaac Brown
It's not even an obscure word if you've spent any time talking about these matters. And to assume that a word you don't know is made up and not just a word you're unfamiliar with is American education.
It's clear that's what it'll take to kill that cancerous party, which calls itself "Conservative" but conserves nothing, and only has a voting base because they liked a policy or two 40 years ago.
Jason Martin
So if i'm 3/4 German or 3/4 Irish (as is a legitimate possibility for me if you've been following this conversation), would I have to leave England to go live in Germany or elsewhere?
Connor Ross
>People simply do not view the world in such a hardline scientistic way and they never have >Good thing reality and objective material interest isn't defined by how one "views" the world. I thought you lot disliked post-modernism?
I've seen this one a few times lately. I'm telling you people don't care about fine granular distinctions in category when faced with real-life territorial disputes and racial/culture clashes and you give me "aha! sounds like postmodernism to me!". Now do you seriously think that or is it just a really rather weak rhetorical trick, honestly? Is what I said true or untrue? As to ethnonationalism being silly in and of itself I suppose just about every in-group that ever existed was 'silly' and we're just lucky enough to have been born in the first generation of humans ever to be not-silly. What a lucky coincidence.
Eli Rodriguez
What's there to conserve?
Brandon Wood
I'm not an ethnostatist but if you're about to say "what if Germany don't let me in" that's your problem
Joseph Gutierrez
Yes. Pack your bags Hans O'Malley.
Landon Allen
>And to assume that a word you don't know is made up and not just a word you're unfamiliar with is American education. All words are made up.
Sebastian Johnson
At least the demographics, if that's not too much to ask.
Sebastian Jackson
Good answer. Never thought about that.
Josiah Edwards
So what makes that word so "brainlet" other than you didn't personally know it? Just admit that you embarrassed yourself and move on.
Luke Evans
>people don't fine granular distinctions in category when faced with real-life territorial disputes and racial/culture clashes I know they don't. Hence why those clashes exist to begin with. If we based our society on material reality rather than delusion and romanticism, we might change that.
>I suppose just about every in-group that ever existed was 'silly' and we're just lucky enough to have been born in the first generation of humans ever to be not-silly Exactly. As societies materially develop, new advanced conditions no longer require previous ideologies and customs to maintain them. Now you're starting to get it!
Sure, but is the fact that I was born in England and have an British passport and speak English negated because I have recent German ancestry? Does this apply to anyone?
Jason Scott
The only people who have use for such a word are people who associate with people retarded enough to say things that require that word to be used. People associate personally with people most like themselves. Only retards have use for the word scientistic.
Nathaniel Myers
>the fact that I was born in England and have an British passport and speak English is completely unimportant. There are millions of you who don't belong here. Whether or not you will be granted the privilege of remaining is tbd.
Bentley Ramirez
You know you can end a polite conversation by just saying 'agree to disagree', there's no law that says you have to start trying to wind me up to salvage some kind of 'win'.
Owen Ross
Does this apply to anyone and everyone? What about the Royal family?
Kevin Garcia
Lots of intelligent people have spoke of scientism, and by extension scientists. Even C.S. Lewis had written about it.
Carson Cooper
It applies to whoever we (English) want it to.
Brayden Phillips
Since we were allies and all can I post here? You're more reliable than the frogs.
Benjamin Smith
Yes feel free. Greeks are good people
Wyatt Cox
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Cooper Sullivan
let them have an outlet for their impotent dork rage brah
