Tell me

Tell me exactly why communism doesn't work.

with love
leftypol

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Because I will literally mooch off the system and be of no value to it.

WE SUPPORT COMMUNISM
6. The people, under our guidance, have annihilated the aristocracy, who were their one and only defence and foster-mother for the sake of their own advantage which is inseparably bound up with the well-being of the people. Nowadays, with the destruction of the aristocracy, the people have fallen into the grips of merciless money-grinding scoundrels who have laid a pitiless and cruel yoke upon the necks of the workers.

7. We appear on the scene as alleged saviours of the worker from this oppression when we propose to him to enter the ranks of our fighting forces—Socialists, Anarchists, Communists—to whom we always give support in accordance with an alleged brotherly rule (of the solidarity of all humanity) of our SOCIAL MASONRY. The aristocracy, which enjoyed by law the labour of the workers, was interested in seeing that the workers were well fed, healthy, and strong. We are interested in just the opposite—in the diminution, the KILLING OUT OF THE GOYIM. Our power is in the chronic shortness of food and physical weakness of the worker because by all that this implies he is made the slave of our will, and he will not find in his own authorities either strength or energy to set against our will. Hunger creates the right of capital to rule the worker more surely than it was given to the aristocracy by the legal authority of kings.

8. By want and the envy and hatred which it engenders we shall move the mobs and with their hands we shall wipe out all those who hinder us on our way.

9. WHEN THE HOUR STRIKES FOR OUR SOVEREIGN LORD OF ALL THE WORLD TO BE CROWNED IT IS THESE SAME HANDS WHICH WILL SWEEP AWAY EVERYTHING THAT MIGHT BE A HINDRANCE THERETO. (The Biblical "Anti-Christ?")

>gommunism doent woahk kuss peepl leik 2 owen suf XDXD

USSR
China
Cuba
Cambodia
North Korea
Venezuela
etc...

>"hurr durr not real gommunism"
not an arguement

A planned economy will always be less efficient than a market economy.
If the fruits of everyone's labor are pooled and divided up based on some parameter other than how much work was done, there is no incentive to work hard (or work at all), leading to further inefficiency.
The existence of a vanguard to enforce the abolition of a ruling class is paradoxical, as it inherently establishes a ruling class with their own vanguard.
A government that controls every aspect of economic life wields massive power and is thus easily abused by the corrupt.
More pragmatically, you will never establish a communist state. The wealthy will flee the country for greener pastures if they sense that communists with actual power are coming for their money.

10. The GOYIM have lost the habit of thinking unless prompted by the suggestions of our specialists. Therefore they do not see the urgent necessity of what we, when our kingdom comes, shall adopt at once, namely this, that IT IS ESSENTIAL TO TEACH IN NATIONAL SCHOOLS ONE SIMPLE, TRUE PIECE OF KNOWLEDGE, THE BASIS OF ALL KNOWLEDGE—THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE STRUCTURE OF HUMAN LIFE, OF SOCIAL EXISTENCE, WHICH REQUIRES DIVISION OF LABOUR, AND, CONSEQUENTLY, THE DIVISION OF MEN INTO CLASSES AND CONDITIONS. It is essential for all to know that OWING TO DIFFERENCE IN THE OBJECTS OF HUMAN ACTIVITY THERE CANNOT BE ANY EQUALITY, that he, who by any act of his compromises a whole class, cannot be equally responsible before the law with him who affects no one but only his own honour. The true knowledge of the structure of society, into the secrets of which we do not admit the GOYIM, would demonstrate to all men that the positions and work must be kept within a certain circle, that they may not become a source of human suffering, arising from an education which does not correspond with the work which individuals are called upon to do. After a thorough study of this knowledge, the peoples will voluntarily submit to authority and accept such position as is appointed them in the State. In the present state of knowledge and the direction we have given to its development of the people, blindly believing things in print—cherishes—thanks to promptings intended to mislead and to its own ignorance—a blind hatred towards all conditions which it considers above itself, for it has no understanding of the meaning of class and condition.

you'll be shot or sent to mines

Like everyone else?

Communism does work, just look at North Korea.

It just happens that real Communism is nothing like what the worthless hippie leftists imagine, and they would be the first sent to gulags.

I'd like to see a self-described communist in this day and age honestly admit that he's willing to shoot or force labor out of blacks who don't work and just collect welfare.

Not real communism you moron!
all of those examples are state capitalism or native socialism or social democracies
not communism

Because there are communists in it.

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>Because I will literally mooch off the system and be of no value to it.

This. Plus, 100+ million plus dead in the last century alone as a direct result of communism.

Resource allocation.

Any example of real communism?

Because retards like you would (for a time) be leading it, and thus have to be culled.

Sage.

Because this isn’t a perfect world. Even if it was we still wouldn’t want or need communism. Get over it holmes. Never gonna happen.

>muh 100 gazillion :¨¨¨¨C
Those numbers where manipualted by historical revisionist capitalst

Because humans are greedy and it only takes one person to realize that if they just killed their equals and had enough resources, they'd control the state. Every working example of Communism has resulted in millions dead. Communism doesn't necessarily even have its heart in the right place. It's just hatred of people for hatred's sake, and it hurts everyone. Communism leads to control and mass murder.

wise words from aquafresh i saw a while back

The amish are very communistic, just ignore the fact that tey're religios zealots.

Is this a genuine leftypol thread? If so post a leftypol meme, I recoqnise them quickly.

communism does work. its just you misunderstand it's purpose.

Communism works if zionists are not involved

By whom in the classless society? Perhaps by some sort of a class of enforcers?

yes

I'm getting tired of you faggots so heres the TL;DR
1. Central Planning will never be more efficient than the market. Half the it either copies the market anyway
2. There is no desire for self improvement when there is no incentive, Why does a Factory worker have any right to have the same Quality of Life as Doctor or Scientist

Idk history maybe

Is that the best you can come with or you're just trolling?

Because equality is nonsense and fundamentally material conceptions of man and the state are insufficient.

Communism doesn't work because the people commies claim to be fighting for don't want communism. Communism doesn't work because there is no known demand so supply is fucked. Communism doesn't work because it removes human dignity based on wanting to act human.

And that they sell furniture food and clothes to the English. They also work for cash I would know as I have to compete in bidding wars every summer.

workers don't have incentive to work for their exploiters, either

You tell us why it would work you lazy commie have a sage

I see you’re one of those guys. Your ”communism” is just a theoretical model which has no basis in reality. If every time a communist state forms it becomes state capitalist, then what does that tell about communism?

They’re much closer to mutualists.

>workers don't have incentive to work for an agreed upon wage

>being this reared, holy shit

get a fucking job kid and then come back here

>just ignore the fact that tey're religios zealots.
What you're advocating is literally impossible without telling people that God is rewarding them for it. Joke's on you for not seeing the obvious advantages of having a population fearing and answering to the intangible.
If you want to participate in the conversation, start thinking like a chessmaster and not a petulant faggot.
But that's why your side always loses. You'll put your self-image ahead of your ideology. And you'll put your ideology ahead of real human beings.

Communism is anti-Human.

>Providing a service for someone and getting Compensated for it Monetarily is exploitation

The three pillars of drive
Your move chuckles

Communism always devolves into state capitalism retard

it attracts retards, like you
retards can't make anything work
there are probably people alive who could handle the "central planner" job
none of them would touch communism with a 20 foot pole

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You being better and more efficient than OP at any craft or discipline is exploitation.

To be fair that’s more of an argument for communism. See marx’s concept of alienation.

>and not a petulant faggot.
take your own advice

Communism would work in an unstructured, non-state system. Once you introduce a state, it's all over because now you get people who want power.

Because people would rather choose which cog in the machine they'd like to be, rather than have it chosen for them.

>my marxist feminist dialect brings all the boys to the yard
The men, on the other hand, have gone to the yard across the street. The one wit the big swastika flag.

>NOT REAL GOMMUNISM GUYS

Well, I know I like to own food, if nothing else

Aaaand it’s clear you’re underage or have never worked a day in your life

It's internationalist and globalist and a very hard think to achieve, the abolition of culture, borders and history is a reason why I don't like communism but I do think atleast strasserism can be achieved. But I'm with you with the class struggle though

>implying there isn't a Star of David behind every memeflag

They cannot choose to give that service because they can't compete against very bing enterprises

>dead

Doesn't hold water in the modern world.

Nobody in the first world is so poor they can't afford the textiles they make.

Individualism vs collectivsim
Horshoe theory
Actual representation of anarchy or a state

Maintaining the worth of a life

Idk how people can openly support something that's literally made to kill a civilisation.

You won't belive any of us, try history lessons
Holodomor
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Chinese great famine
youtube.com/watch?v=YXAnwTwdBlc
Red Khmer
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Oh wait it wasn't real communism, ever of dozens of time it brought famine and decline

Am I the only one here that thinks marx’s ”Workers of the world unite!” has been massively misinterpreted? When he designed the system of communism in the late 19th century he was likely mostly talking of french, german and british workers solely.

so this... is the power of /leftypol/ memes. wow......

Look, I know this is hard to take for someone as indoctrinated as you but A CEO absolutely deserves his sallary he is the one that keeps a Corporation Afloat and his work is the most vaulable, without them they couldn't exist. Compared to a Wagecuck it is not my fault this stubborn faggot refuses to increases his skills and get a job that actually suits him. While I agree with you that Small businesses have it tough it is not anything to do with capitalism.

>not understanding how it's meant to kill the metaphysical soul
>leading to deprecation of human life

Do you even Plato?

Go suck a fucking dick you molymemeing sargon of a akkuck faggot, nobody here wants you, you literally not only make us all look like autistic faggots but make us question whether or not the alt-right is an intelligent movement or not

Hey bud it's a known thing to not look at ancap because of paid shilling.

Good thing I'm not apart of the alt-"""""""""""""""""""""right"""""""""""""" then.

Go fuck your self

4c needs its own leftypol for the autist commies who hang around here and not on *chan

Because people don't like having their shit taken away.

I'm sorry. I just see an ancap and I have an urge to crush my testicles with my finger nails

an anarcho-capitalist anti-zionist? rly? wow...

I'll respond for him.

>Hurr durr playdough's republoc will never happen, fascist.
>I'm an aristotelean and paradoxically also a gomunist. Checkmate drumpf.

Read history you fucking swine

I actually wonder if ancaps are crypto communists. They really are the best argument against capitalism.

because math

Tell me exactly when you've ever seen the government do something efficiently?

Personally not a capitalist, but i'm also not a socialist but sometimes I think the same thing, I honestly don't even know if they're being serious at times and don't seem to even think their comments through at times. If they're not controlled opposition I don't know what is because they really make us look like retarded shit.

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I can't be bothered to actually respond properly to these braindead retards.

I’ve noticed from their threads that most of them are helpless newfriends. What really makes them irritating is that like most americans they throw a fit whenever you dare to disagree with them. Although the theory that they’re a leftypol falseflag also holds some water. I don’t think leftypol is smart enough for that, but it would be a good tactic.

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Nazbols are really the only lefties that make good memes.

Leftypol has all the cool memes and are the next caounter culture, get used to the gulag fascist.

You cant work whan you are hungry

George Orwell's Animal Farm ~ 1954 Animation [full movie]
youtu.be/1Ibe-BgqwNg

>le edgi gommunism starvaton maymay XDXD

It took you 20 minutes to come up with that response, that says so much about how hard it is for you to formulate a sentence. Ancap go back to molymemes and intellectual masturbation. You'll never grow out of your little psuedo-intelligent idealist fantasy I have more faith in communists in turning 3rd positionist than an anarcho-capitalist...


too many feminist getting btfo cringe compilation videos... so sad. Go suck off that juden zionist that talks fast, he'll comfort your ego.

Get used to the Helicopter faggot

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”Lefty”pol is so head up their idpol that I somewhat doubt that they’ll ever achieve anything. I’m not a facist though so...

>le epic gaschamer maymay XDXD

>Tell me exactly why communism doesn't work.
because setting up Solomon's slave management system is really difficult and kind of pointless if you don't agree with the concept of slavery

I'd like to believe they're doing it deliberately to fuck with us but let's face it. Some people have nigger tier IQ. Also I actually like nazbols, the only kind of lefty I like

Why should I work when I'm guaranteed the same gibs as the guy next door who works 18 hour shifts 6 days a week.

>6. The people, under our guidance, have annihilated the aristocracy,

prove it, start piling up the elite corpses

Nazbols are just a meme to lure yo in, polyp

>Pooperty is theheft weeges are slaavery Xaxaxa

We can meme too faggot. Why has communism failed every time it has been tried?

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>muh third position
>muh all cabitalism is jewish
You really can't think for yourselfs, Go Jack off to the government telling you what to do

I’ve noticed that most actual lefties become quasi facists eventually.

>Why should I work when I'm guaranteed the same gibs as the guy next door who works 18 hour shifts 6 days a week.

would you be willing to work if you were guaranteed to keep 100% of the value you produce? because neither capitalism nor communism can do that for you

MLs are kind of alright too.