So I am strongly involved in equality and social justice movements...

So I am strongly involved in equality and social justice movements. I'm a proud intersectional feminist and democratic socialist. I have attended the women's march more than once, slutwalks, Black Lives Matter protests, anti-Trump protests, and anti-fascist events. For months, I refused to talk to talk to my opposition. Because the way I saw it (and still do see it), there is no reasoning with racists, homophobes, transphobes, Nazis, white supremacists, mysogynists, white nationalists, etc.

But I just have a few questions that I never understood. Why do you hate social justice warriors? What is wrong with fighting for equality? What is wrong with defending marginalized groups? Shouldn't we all be doing this? What is wrong with feminism? Or BLM? How do you see these groups as "supremacist" groups when they just want equal rights? About Antifa.. Look, I understand they get violent at times. But what's the big deal about being violent towards fascists? Who cares if a fascist gets punched? Is breaking a window worse than killing a woman with your car? Is a militant leftist group that wants to end fascism really worse than a group that wants to kill everyone who doesn't look like them? Seriously, why all the hate? What is wrong with social justice and everyone being equal? What's wrong with ending white supremacy?

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The problem with the world is Jew Privilege, their cultural nepotism which has led to this parasite taking over. Stop distracting from who the enemy is

> why do you hate _____
equality is already in place. Protected classes of people is not equality.

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Everything stems from our disagreement on one foundational point. We do not believe in equality. We do not believe that people are equal, and furthermore we do not believe that equality is something that should be forced.

As Aristotle said, "The worst inequality is to force unequal things to be equal." Every other difference between our position and yours flows from this point.

Why do you hate white people? They’ve done nothing but give you the highest standard of living.

Tits or GTFO

Wish I had the time to explain all of this though who you claim to be makes it appear you are too far gone. However, your attempt to engage with opposition is laudable. So many young women have been brainwashed by feminism.

You're already more than equal , you call diverse what is 90 percent black and 90 percent female. The wage gap doesn't exist , and in the real world racism barely exists
We don't want genocide , it's a joke (mostly) . The guy in the car hit the wale because YOU faggots blocked the whole road. White supremacy exists because faggots like you can't shut up. Not everyone is a Nazi. I'd say this and some other site (which I will not name) is the only place you will find them.
I'm gonna throw this out though :
I dislike Jews blacks faggots and snowflakes.

I hate SJWs because they fight for advantages under the guise of equality. Tell us where we are unequal.

White people are superior.

Reasonably well structured troll, but nobody's that stupid, you need to tone it down a bit. Here's a you to encourage you.

Fuck off whore.

sage

sheeeeit
>questions questions questions questions
Lurk more. Are you really this lazy. ALL of these questions have been answered here hundreds of times. Or just search through the 4plebs.org archive

>So I am strongly involved in equality and social justice movements. I'm a proud intersectional feminist and democratic socialist. I have attended the women's march more than once, slutwalks, Black Lives Matter protests, anti-Trump protests
Why don't you fuck off to Africa where shit like sexism are actually real.

Define "marginalized"

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Explain.

No. There is still plenty of inequality.

Because I'm neither an idiot nor a Jew.

Why? Why aren't people equal? And if people aren't equal, who is superior?

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Terrible LARP, sage.

And there always will be. Its called hierarchy. Its how evolution works.
Therefore, imposition of equality between unequal factors is impossible, and the attempt is fitness-negative in Darwinian terms, and thus undesirable even if it were possible.

>no proof

> racists, homophobes, transphobes, Nazis, white supremacists, mysogynists, white nationalists, etc.

maybe you're psychologically projecting? Because you don't know what I think or of the love in my heart.

However, the holocaust did not happen, you are thinking about the Holodomor and the extermination of the most charming of peoples: The Germans. One day you will know the truth, it is very sad thing to behold.

Sage/Bail/Slide/Shill ect.

>Why?
Because evolution, and because hierarchy is natural law.
>Who is superior?
The superior organisms, depending on context.

I never said I hated white people. I am white. But how you took my views on how we should have equality as "hating white people" just shows your fragility.

How have white people given us the highest standards of living? Owning slaves, holding down certain groups, and forcibly stealing land is a "high standard of living"?

Do you think US blacks would be better in Africa?
If not, by extension, slavery in the US created better quality of life over time.

Also, there are more Native Americans than there ever were or ever would have been if left to their own devices. Same with Africans, btw.

You really have no idea who you're really fighting, do you?
youtube.com/watch?v=Hnxqcb0mRcU

You're a hypocrite on several levels. And if you happen to be white then congrats, you're doing your own movement a huge dis service.

Why are minorities an except to the rule of equality? Why affirmative action? Why do white people get elected in the Democratic party and no POC even though they are the majority of the blue vote?

Race is not a social construct, its the product of evolution, due to natural stress one race happened to selectively breed for people capable of surviving the harsh european winter. That meant the ability to plan ahead, the ability to solve problems and the ability to be ruthless when required, nothing was easy. Throughout history we have seen that natural ingenuity blossom in the sciences, arts, warfare and industry.

To say that races are no equal isnt even just a political opinion, its a medical fact that parents of different races will be closer genetically to strangers in the street than their own offspring, google the growing issue of leukemia bone marrow doners. Parents of the same race can donate organs and matter to their kids, mixed couples cannot

Nobody here is genocidal, we all want Europe to be free from forced migration on the false premise that the new people are victims. Nobody here wants to hate non-whites but the cultural marxist jews and the naivety of women have lead us to the point where what was once a great civilization is being stripped away in one generation.

How are we more than equal? And no? We just don't want old white men running everything. The wage gap DOES exist. It is PROVEN that women get paid 77 cents to the man's dollar. It is even less for women of color. So genocide is a "joke"? If I am in the road, someone has a right to hit and kill me??? White supremacy exists because I won't shut up about inequality? Well I'll continue to not shut up. It needs to be talked about.

So you just admitted that you're a white supremacist piece of shit.

You already have 'equality of opportunity'.
What you demand is 'equality of outcome' and that will never happen in a free society.
Oh, and fuck off commie bitch.

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This.

People like OP want a utopia that is divorced from reality to achieve some artificial form of "equality" and to try and achieve it they do some evil shit. We're all born unequal (IQ, height, skin color, background, etc.). What you SJW's want to do is have everyone dressed in grey where no one is better than anyone else. That's not life, it's not reality.

Gay as fuck. Please throw yourself into oncoming traffic, faggot.

You're talking about Jews not white men, most white men were viciously exterminated in the 20th century

Different people are superior in different situations. This isn't based off some abstract criteria, it's more like pragmatism. If one thing is successful and another isn't, over and over, the successful thing is better, practically.

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Yes, that's the wage gap according to biased studies that cherry pick their statistics.

>What is wrong with defending marginalized groups?
The first thing marginalized groups should be defended from is themselves.
>what is wrong with feminism
the fact that they embraced far left bullshit, still cry about overlydebunked myths and at the end of the day they are just a group aiming to divide. It's also pretty clear that rather than equality they want to be a protected class.
>BLM
they fact that they are wrong and all that they achieved is worsening race relations.
>Who cares if a fascist gets punched?
who cares if a communist gets punched?

No one likes to be told what to do/think. The more you force people to be politically correct, the more counterculture fags you'll get. Also, no one likes how much the left glorifies socialism.
I don't think that what you stand for is wrong though. This is just my opinion on why people react the way they do.

Everything you know is false and a construct of your enemy.
They have used you.

>le racist old white men meme

those are jews you gullible retard

Gender inequalities:
-Wage gap.
-Pink tax.
-Tampon tax.
-Rape culture.
-Systematic oppression.
-Lack of access to birth control or abortions.

Racial inequalities:
-Wage gap.
-Prison gap.
-A white man with a criminal record is 58% more likely to get the job than a black man with a clean record.
-Drug sentences.
-People with a black sounding name don't get called back for a job.
-Systematic oppression.

Other inequalities:
-The whole trans bathroom issue.
-Continued discrimination.

Such A "White Left" thing to say.

How?

I would agree with OP that (((White Privalage))) is indeed a problem.

How can you say that about another human being?

>Fuck white supremacy

You can hate it all you want, doesn't make it less real.

suck my peepee

The Gender Pay wage gap is a lie

freakonomics.com/podcast/the-true-story-of-the-gender-pay-gap-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/

Oppressed, held down by society.

You want equal numbers of prisoners based on skin color?

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Research the Holodomor

‘We must turn Russia into a desert populated by white negroes upon whom we shall impose a tyranny such as the most terrible Eastern despots never dreamt of. The only difference is that this will be a left-wing tyranny, not a right-wing tyranny. It will be a red tyranny and not a white one.

We mean the word 'red' literally, because we shall shed such floods of blood as will make all the human losses suffered in the capitalist wars quake and pale by comparison. The biggest bankers across the ocean will work in the closest possible contact with us. If we win the revolution, we shall establish the power of Zionism upon the wreckage of the revolution's funeral, and we shall became a power before which the whole world will sink to its knees. We shall show what real power is. By means of terror and bloodbaths, we shall reduce the Russian intelligentsia to a state of complete stupefaction and idiocy and to an animal existence... At the moment, our young men in their leather jackets, who are the sons of watchmakers from Odessa, Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitsa, know how to hate everything Russian! What pleasure they take in physically destroying the Russian intelligentsia - officers, academics and writers!’

-Leon Trotsky clearly bigoted -> invented racism

I'm sure you're trolling, but the fact that there are idiots in the world who believe this pile of horse shit amazes me.

>Why do you hate social justice warriors?
Because they make the world a worse place for everyone by forcing unnatural things on us. For example by pushing sexual liberation they make it hard for me to find a faithful wife.

>What is wrong with fighting for equality?
Because it is against my personal interests, since I am white and inequality simply seeks to bring those at a higher status down so that everyone is "equally shitty".

>What is wrong with defending marginalized groups?
Most of those groups are simply mentally ill. Perhaps they don't need to be bullies, but leftists glorify them and act like they're normal.

>Shouldn't we all be doing this?
Some of us have families and future generations to look after, not some marginalized group that has no relation to us. I'm not selfish, just practical. You're just wasting your time and energy.

>what is wrong with feminism
Women and men belong together, and should never be grouped against each other.

>Or BLM?
Black people get shot by police in direct proportion to their crime rate. There should be a movement to help them stop doing crime instead.

>How do you see these groups as "supremacist" groups when they just want equal rights?
Because they constantly spit on any white with dignity.

>But what's the big deal about being violent towards fascists?
They're wasting their energy. Also they might categorize me as a fascist, and I'd rather not get randomly assaulted.

>Is a militant leftist group that wants to end fascism really worse than a group that wants to kill everyone who doesn't look like them?
This was never part of fascist or nazi ideology. The holocaust was a necessary part of the war, since Jews were known for always resisting and sabotaging

Please go to Africa and leave whites alone!!! Thank you!

When you employ aggressive tribalism/nepotism but socially/politically/legally condemn it in other groups(white europeans), you're going to effect a massive advantage.

This is current world jewry in a nutshell.

Men face issues and hardships collectively too but you don't see marches in place for them very often. Now don't get me wrong. If hypothetically such issues exist then logically yes, they should be quashed. However the far left have been known to be quite deluded when it comes to the issues women and minorities face and that's part of the reason I really don't buy into this sort of thing. I've seen countless times on T.V. a man who is jokingly made fun of for his male esque behaviours. I've no problem with this. Men really don't care. But for some reason when it's the other way around it's made into a big issue?

Because there's already equality in America you fucking retard and attacking people because of their political views isn't justafiable just because muh feelings you fucking privileged cunt

You're fighting against your own interests friend. If you believe white people have an advantage, you're only harming yourself by taking said advantage away. Why play identity politics for another group?

You and I are more alike than you realize. We are simply different sides of the same identity politics coin. The only difference is I serve my group's interests. I was like you once. Believing in "equality" and "justice". Once you realize that you're fighting to oppress your own people, it's a very easy transition

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some people are against those things as we see it as useless and just a means to control the masses. You won't get much out of us on here though we'll even be ignorant, everything you despise or just fucking about. But I appreciate the effort if you really are trying to see what the other side is up to. Most of are probably right wing but no one really knows how many people are far or moderate or anything, welcome to the greatest shitpost

>The wage gap DOES exist
no it doesn't.
youtube.com/watch?v=58arQIr882w
>White supremacy exists because I won't shut up about inequality?
it's fun how America or generally the west is supposed to be such a horrible and racist society yet poor oppressed brown people would sell kidney to get in it. Why? For sure I would stay the fuck out from a society that supposedly hates me and wants to keep me down.

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because you are stupid and the expression on your face when I hit you with a rifle butt will be hilarious

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Lots of appeal to emotion here, no facts though. Keep trying.

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You're hopelessly naive. Equality is not what they want. You don't know them like I do. The fact that you're just now deciding to talk to your opposition tells me you have not spent the time around all these different groups like I have. No one is innocent. I've experienced every piece of today's American culture. I've sympathized with everyone at one point or another. It can't all stay together. We ask hate each other and have different ways of living and for one way of life to exist here another must always die. Were headed towards balkanization or enslavement if we do not separate.

You speak our language, you live in a country founded by Europeans, your political system is European.

As others have mentioned, it isn't a matter of superiority and inferiority. That's a false dichotomy. It's merely an acknowledgement of the natural reality of the world, that there exist immutable differences. These differences arent necessarily a bad thing, but they become so when you attempt to artificially force different populations into close proximity. Competition will naturally arise, and will result in ethnic, cultural and racial conflicts.

The more just approach is to ensure that these different, unequal populations can maintain separate existences, where they can each live according to their own different needs.

No one can be this much of a stereotype. Can they?
>pink tax
>women are too stupid to buy something unless it's pink and scented and then cry fucking oppression when they have to pay for these products that they voluntarily choose to purchase
fucking lmao

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I'm a civnat (not a Nazi) and I have a few questions:

1) When will you realize that the orthodoxy surrounding intersectionality has been a losing strategy for the left? How will you address the infighting created by the application of Intersectionality into activism?

2) Why are you so hellbent on every country in the world becoming multicultural?

>You're fighting against your own interests friend.

This always makes me laugh when gullible dumbocrats screech about the tax bill, for example.

>why do republicans always vote against their interests waaaah why r u so dumb u live in trailer park

Does anyone have the soyboy version of this?

The jews prevent humans from having a real utopian society. They hate humankind and want to enslave it by creating a dumb light brown subhuman mixed race society.

>We just don't want old white men running everything.
yet they pretty much created the best society on the globe. And before you shout gibberish like "It was built on the back of POC" I invite you to read any objective book of history of economics of the last 3 centuries rather than "Das Kapital"

People are not equal because they have different bodies which excel and underperform differently.

“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”

jewpill thread
>now

Easy. They no longer live until their teens and have far more opportunities to live how they want than ever.

Where did you find that Trotsky quote? I saw it on Europa: The Last battle a while back but have been unable to find a legit source for it outside from a very obscure book.

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Because ending white supremacy according to you means destroying my country, debasing my people, insulting and degrading my heritage, shitting on every thing I hold dear and then at the end of the day still blame me for everything wrong with the world.

You've made a lot of enemies. Most of us here were apolitical or harmless libertarians before you forced this on us. Have fun with the backlash.

>Owning slaves, holding down certain groups, and forcibly stealing land is a "high standard of living"?
You are a cuck because everyone back then was doing it.

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This is the kindest option for all parties involved. OP, pay attention to this user.

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I think he stopped caring..

itt. Hitler was a good man

"Wage gap": Largely a myth explained by women taking time off their career to facilitate childbirth.

"Pink tax": I assume you mean the idea that "women's products" i.e. products designed to appeal to a female in some way (e.g. pink, extra frills, laces, etc) are more expensive. The idea that this is a gender inequality is absurd. The free market system means you can buy any product you wish. You have a choice to buy an expensive pink razor marketed towards women or a plain black razor marketed towards men.

Tampon tax: Most products that are sold at a profit are taxed, including products that only men buy. If I go and buy a jockstrap do I have the right to demand it not be taxed?

Rape culture: Meaningless "buzzword" terminology used to emotionally manipulate people.

Systematic oppression: see above.


Lack of access to birth control or abortions: Another absurd claim. There is massive access to both BC and abortions everywhere in the United States, along with charities dedicated to providing these services free of charge.