Warau Salesman NEW

Another week, two more satisfied customers.

Fuck this show and fuck everyone who enjoys this shit. You're the epitome of what's wrong in this world

AOTS
I'm even watching the old series

What's wrong with liking warau salesman?
I'd get if you didn't like the series but what's up with
>You're the epitome of what's wrong in this world
geez, it's just anime.

thought there was gonna be some train fucking towards the end

I JUST watched the first episode and I have to ask: What the hell did I just watch? He says he's here to help people's hearts but all he did was encourage they indulge in bad behaviors and then punish them for it... He's not even making some shady deal with the devil kind of thing, he's just straight up messing with people it feels like.

Did he fill the hole in your heart or what

>this confuse the moralfag

He is a troll salesman with some type of magical power who makes deals in bad faith for his own enjoyment.

So, to become one of Maguro's customer you have to be:
1. In a state of mild distress
2. A salaryman/woman
3. Increadibly fucking stupid

anything else?

The first half was somewhat silly with its basis, but it was a fairly good story of Moguro fucking with someone for being indecisive. The second half with the guy who wants to fuck trains was a step down from the second half of last week's episode.

?

Who is the target demographic for this show? Successful, older people who have won the game of life? Teens who don't understand what lies ahead? Either way I feel depressed watching this shit, like I'm glimpsing into my own future.

Just watched the second episode, in the second half, the kid realized he was being a jerk and I assume was gonna go through some sort of realization, but then Moguro just brainwashed him into being a crazy jerk forever?

Furthermore, isn't he still in a fictional company and therefore not getting paid?

So this is a show about a guy who goes around ruining people's lives and outright brainwashing people under the pretense of "helping people with the hole in their heart"?

Salesman just sets the table. They are the ones that decide which move they will take. And they always choose wrong. No wonder God lost faith in humankind.

are you ok

>Who is the target demographic for this show?
Younger people. This show is teaching younger people how to be good and kind and not lose their way

then maybe its time you did something about it so our future doenst look so bleak

People who enjoy a good schadenfreude

First part ended relatively well. Fuck anyone who badmouths your mother, man. The dude's better off without that bitch.

>What I expected
>People getting fucked over by their own faults
>What I got
>People straight-up getting magical brainwashed if they ever realize that they are messed up people so that Moguro can fuck them over just because

Pretty lame desu. It's no fun seeing that people suffering if they didn't bring it upon themselves.

What if moguro really is trafficking human hearts and this is just the process he goes through, putting them in debt and the yakuza takes the heart.

I feel you, this episode was pretty bad. Both people would've been fine to work it out on their own, but Moguro guilt tripped them into fucking up more

Didn't get the second part's ending. What did Moguro do?

I think he turned him into a crazy fanatic who would never willingly get off the train again.

Have you ever considered that not all entertainment, or every story, has to have a moral?

Probably something alone the lines of getting him drunk (or leaving him delusional) and having him remain on the train, so he might get into a bit of trouble with the guard finding him. Otherwise he mostly fucked himself over at work rather than needing Moguro's help.

Woman in episode 1, part 2 brought it on herself.

Hell, she even got a good deal out of Moguro. She could indulge in her habits without losing money, but that wasn't good enough for her.

Man I dunno, the guy was clearly still pretty childish, and didn't respect either of them enough to be honest.

I mean, I kinda get it, his mother was crazy manipulative about it, but ultimately you don't want to be with someone who will side with their parents over you, especially if they see you as competition, and the fact that he clearly didn't like his mother's lunches but would rather create an elaborate lie and defend her than be honest about it was a rather negative mark for his character.

That said, anyone who tries to manipulate you to cut yourself off from your family, or sees them as competiton to the same degree that guy's mother did, is likewise a bad choice.

This.

I guess? I'm not doing too well in the grand scheme of thingms, but the show didn't mess me up too much. Just kinda confused. Usually a show has a reasonable moral to it or an obvious villain protagonist. It threw me off that the guy claimed to be doing a good thing when he wasn't.

To a degree, he genuinely did offer each person something nice, but in some of the situations, he was pretty blatantly encouraging about bad behavior rather than giving them a fair warning, and the part where he outright brainwashed a guy was too far. That said, this third episode (which I just finished watching) had him tell the first guy pretty frequently that he needs to just make a decision, and the second guy he stressed the importance of not getting on that train a second time, so it felt pretty fair.

Still kinda mixed about the outright brainwashing though.

This is why OL are always single.

I agree for the most part, but I feel that he went too far in taking back the spa treatment. Like, the cost of giving up looking younger and nicer for a few days should be looking worse for a few days, not what seemed to be suddenly being pretty old permanently.

It feels like most of his deals don't outright ruin people, but he seems too eager and heavy handed when it comes to dealing out the consequences of abusing his generosity.

Each episode the people seem to deserve it less and less.

The OL in first week didn't deserve it
>get bullied
>develop shitty coping mechanism
>le evil salesman crushes you

I'd prefer the show if he was targeting people who deserve it a little more

why didn't he just threw the bento away or gave it to one of his coworkers?

I still want them to remake the episode where a gold digging woman is tricked into being in a porn video when she instead thought she nabbed a rich guy

Probably some sense of guilt, he wanted the OL bentos, but he couldn't stand his mother's bentos going to waste.

Honestly if I stop trying to view it as "guy going around helping people with magically powered life lessons" and more "reality warper messing with people for fun, but he's not entirely heartless and willing to back off is they manage to handle themselves properly" then it all fits a lot better thematically.

It's just weird. At first I thought this show would be a blatant "careful what you wish for" with karmic retribution and life lessons from a shadey "making a deal with the devil" kind of person, and it IS that, but it feels off, like the guy trying to give all these life lessons isn't entirely sane, or has a significantly different view of things in regards to morals and fairness than most of the world.

>Watching this and realizing your mother hasn't made lunch for you since elementary school. Even then it was just grocery store white bread, lunch meat and some vegetables in a ziploc bag.

>Feels bad man

Well he is the laughing salesman for a reason. He can encourage a guy to go on a joy run in a stolen truck, cause multiple accidents and break every traffic law in the book, and leave him surrounded by police, and walk away saying "that was amusing".

True, it's basically an episodic style show of a bored reality warper with an odd sense of humor, doing nothing more than passing the time, and if a few lives are improved or completely ruined along the way, that's fine with him.

Can't believe this was originally created by the same guy who made Doraemon.

>tfw you will never ever return to such a simple yet perfect time
I never wanted to be reminded of this from watching this show.

>Wanting to be autistic kid again
Fuck off.

>not wanting to be an autistic kid again
being an autistic adult isn't nearly as fun

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Will he ever be stopped? May somebody be able to out-smart him?

>episode 1 was two SHIIIT stories
>episode 2 was one shit story and one very good story
>episode 3 is one very good story and one that's really weird
This is too inconsistent.

>It threw me off that the guy claimed to be doing a good thing when he wasn't.
Is that your first time seeing "dealing with the devil"-type stories?

>This is too inconsistent.
Completely agree. Are we tripping up on some actual cultural shock for the first time in forever?
Does this make more sense to japanese people?

I get a kind of Kafka feeling of absurdist humor from this

Well, the deal with the devil ussually lets you screw yourself with your own decisions. It's weird to see the devil brainwashing someone into being an asshole, it goes against its usual principles.

Here people are screwed by their own decisions. It is the devil's right to persuade them to make these decisions, though.

If this shit is the norm than Japan is a more depressing place than I thought.

This is the reason I haven't moved to Japan yet

You mean

>Teach nip youths to work hard at their job every day without complaining and give free overtime to their bosses

literally Monkey Paw: The Animation.

This entire story was retarded.
>Average guy with no real issues nor really fucking up in life in any way, just working a shitty job
>Punish him for having a hobby and dream, didn't really indulge in it in excess, Moguro got him drunk

Monkey's Paw would imply theres some sort of ironic punishment. What the fuck was the punishment in the Bento one?

The better way would have been the super delicious shit makes him eat it himself which drives the girl and somehow the mom away

Same, I'm not too familiar with kafka but I am with Camus' absurdism and this fits his idea of the world having no objective meaning but having subjective meaning, which is reflected in the weird surreal antics of Moguro and how he entertains himself.

That's a catchy as fuck OP

The guy with the trains made me despair. I am still waiting for one of the stories to end up with mokuro-san just enjoying his time with a customer and the customer learning his lesson in a positive light. It was just a guy who really loved trains and the journey and i feel like i can somehow relate to that feeling. Seeing him fall so hard was not nice. Maybe some day i'll get to see that happy ending.Did anything like this happen in the old series?

I feel as if many people make this mistake and i would like to offer you some advice. If you want to take it fine,if you dont its also fine. The fact that she got bullied does not negate what she did. Some bullied people have this way of thinking where they are not at fault for anything and they feel empowered by the fact that they are being treated badly. She was punished because she did something that was forbidden,using the bullying as an excuse is giving her precedence

Moguro fucking over people who don't entirely deserve it is exactly what makes this a black comedy. That's the whole premise. They're supposed to be punchlines, not life lessons,

Hardly a comedy when it's so shit and boring.

>screwed by their own decisions
Most of the decisions are contrived, and on one instance not a real decision at all (the hot springs guy was about to make the right choice but Moguro pretty much fucked him over because the episode was running out of time)

The Japanese Wiki does list a few episodes which don't end badly, but none of those are subbed.

This past episode's part 2 reminded me of Rail Wars, I honestly thought the MC in that show was autistic, but holy hell, I didn't know there was an entire culture revolving around trains. That's pretty neat.

I really didn't like how part 2 ended. The guy accomplished one of his grandiose dreams, felt like a new leaf, only to get crushed on, and was destroyed by Moguro in that moment of weakness.

The first part of this past episode was by far the best so far. Moguro was completely neutral and only gave him something to buy him time. When the guy screwed up by not coming up with a solution during his peace time, Moguro made him deal with it head on. My opinion on the show would be considerably higher if they handled the situations like this.

I will admit I can sort of accept the train ending where the guy's punishment was being addicted to the train, but the one of the more egregious endings that put me off from having a higher opinion on the show was the skit where the new salary rookie realized he was becoming as horrible of a boss as the boss in his old work place. When he realized when he became, he literally ran to the exit in panic but Moguro just brainwashed him into accepting his new role. It would have been more natural and acceptable if they had a discussion where the salaryman concluded this is the type of boss he wants to be and he was just envious of the his old boss' position.

I didn't say the jokes were funny. I just said they were jokes.

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This would work if it wasn't arranged as a fable with a moral at the end.
Dark humor shouldn't try to teach the right way to behave.

Welcome to the short story format.

I think being a mock fable is supposed to be part of the joke.

i am 100% convinced only shills and trolls post these threads
this anime is motherfucking abysmal, its shitty writing is even worse than Sword art online

Its a gag manga from the late 60s/early 70s, what the hell were you expecting? Evangelion?

Every individual thus far has had some kind of significant flaw that gave Moguro an opening for him to exploit. So in that regards, there is some kind of lesson that can be taken from the episodes.

It's just not using those to teach the individuals in the show a lesson, but rather have Moguro fuck them over for the fun of it.

this is the epitome of bad writing you fucking retards
he doesnt offer any kind of deal he just straight fucks up people and shit on his own rules.
if this is gonna be like this he might as well shoot people in the face with a shotgun as soon as he sees anyone and you can all go 2DEEP4U XD retards

I do think that the mock fable part is enjoyable, but it just doesn't quite fit with the narrative. It's a bit jarring.
I much prefer the stories where people DO bring forth their just deserts.
The "teaching a moral" part doesn't feel like part of the joke but actually honest. I mean, this IS from one of the creators of Doraemon.

>Sup Forums mistakes a 40 year old comedy manga series for a 2deep4u moral quandary anime

It took a while of letting it stew in my head, but I think the main reason he was punished is because he got too attached to the fake job.

The main problem was that after working his horrible job, he was too scared to try anymore, and this fake job was supposed to build up his confidence.

Since he went all dark side and terrified himself, he's probably going to go back to being too scared to job seriously, so Moguro made him stick with his fake job for forever.

The punishment was basically for losing the resolve to job seriously, I guess.

That, or I go back to my "Moguro doesn't actually care about anything and just messes with people depending on his whims" theory.

I can't wait to see how Sup Forums responds when they get to the chapters where his clients outright refuse his help and he still fucks them over.

>acknowledging the bad writing but also excusing it
Was your idea to prove his shill accusation right?

Nobody is saying that this show is deep

Wait are you seriously telling me he needs literally no requirements to begin ruining your day, he can just straight up do whatever he wants and just goes about this route for the fun of it?

Is it seriously just "bored reality warper messing with people" as the plot?

Why can't moralfags understand that fucking up people's lives for free can be fun?

Yes, that's literally the whole basis of the show. That's also why its nothing more than a gag comedy.

At the very least, his help can be very much bad faith from the beginning.

Oh I understand that it can be, it's just that the show had this vaneer of being something else and blatant evil type stories aren't all that common and I'm used to them heavily announcing themselves as such.

Everything about the Laughing Salesman gave me an evil vibe, but then he starts talking about helping people's hearts and I think he's actually trying to help in some way, but if you WERE to go around messing with people under the guise of being some minor helpful reality warper of sorts, than he's doing a great job of it all.

It just isn't something I expected, so I kept trying to categorize it as other things I'm more familiar with.

Moral of the story: Moguro is a jerk, and if he gives you his business card, you're gonna have a bad time.

I'll keep watching though, because honestly, if I had his powers, I probably wouldn't be much different.

It's a mix of clients, the old stories were a mix of people who deserved what they got and those who Moguro just fucked over for the hell of it.

Either way, Moguro is a troll who exploits people weaknesses primarily motivated by his own enjoyment, but sometimes he happens to choose someone quite deserving.

I kind of want to go on an overnight train now.

>evangelion
>not gag writing from the 70's
oh boi

Not gonna lie, I get a strange sort of amusement out of seeing the guy ruin lives. Can't really explain why, but I guess it's just the same reason why people like dark humor in general.

/vr/ here. Have you guys checked out the mega CD game? It's kinda' neat.

Someone wished for good anime this season and thus Warau Salesman NEW aired, sucks for whoever made the wish though.

>eating some whore's bento instead of your mother's
fucker deserved to get SEERUSUMAN'd

This makes me feel bad the same way kaiji did.

Do Japs really freak over boxed lunches and trains so much that a social parody show makes eps about them?

Different culture. For comparison, burgers are quite fond of their fast food joints. Just look on youtube for a fast food review for your newest burger from wendy's or some shit like that. There're hundreds of channels dedicated just for reviewing fast food.

This is a show? Lel
I thought the salesman cameo from zettai Karen children was just some random throwaway chara.