Slippery Slope

There are thousands of young men on Sup Forums going through those stages as we speak. How do we stop it?

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This is literally just a meme pushed by a few faggots

Just go to Sup Forums. There are literally hundreds of ugly awkward virgins roleplaying as little girls

Install razorblades and swinging guillotines about halfway down the slope, right after the homosexuality stage.

Anime is completely fucking degenerate

Anime should be banned period

There is no slippery slope as long as you have even a modicum of self control or dignity.
10+ years of being 2D only and I still find traps fucking gay.
Can they be cute? Yeah, sure. But they have a fucking dick you flaming faggot.

t.faggot

This
Anime culture is perverse and weebz need to hang along with the pedos

I don't even like or watch anime that much
Must've watched like 3-4 animes in my life

meh I prefer ponies anyway

>rejecting scientific facts

Fuck off, Bible Nigger.
Come back when you're done jerking off the (((""""""chosen"""""" people)))

Imagine being so mad that you you beg people to stop watching anime on an anime website.
don't come crying when stacy cucks you with your dad

I did go thru those exact stages.
What worked for me was Religion and will power to get back to where I was before I got addicted to porn.
It worked well. I now work, have a decent salary 2100euros after taxes and a very beautiful gf.

I'd say that I learnt a lot during those times.
I started with my ex gf. I started dressing up. Doing drag... Till I had a gay experience.

Keep in mind that I was a normal dude, getting lots of pussy in highschool. Never had a gay thought, was very confident about my identity.

It can happen to anyone.
What helped pushing me into this 2 years of hell was drugs (Lots of weed, shrooms, art school, liberal thinking...).

At the suicide stage, the anxiety was so hard on me that the only thing left was praying. So I did. The next day I stopped weed, alcohol, porn...

Now I am a better man, better person than I ever did. I feel stronger than ever.
I dont feel shame anymore.
It just goes away.
What helped also was trying why.
I did and now no propaganda can ever get to me.

Anyway, If you're going thru this yourself and you feel trapped in a life that's not yours. It's because you're not a woman nor a gay faggot.

Don't let doubt fuck you up.

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I guess by watching anime you're saying; "You're already dead"
Fuck this gay earth anyway i guess.

I’ve noticed that lack of attention is a possible driving force for that. Pol has however quite succesfully used the same mechanism to grow.

I made it all the way to MGTOW but I crawled back up to tfw no gf. I'm glad I avoided all the gay shit

This website started as an anime board you leaf piece of shit, and you'll have to pry my waifu pillows from my cold dead hands. I'll kill over 9000 of you stormfags if you ever attempt it.

Where is the cp level...mostly pedos on Sup Forums

I'm at the homosexuality stage

Stop buying into the sex for pleasure meme.

you better stop this circle

Is it pathetic to appreciate art?

That's down another staircase, that also happens to start with 2d porn

I stopped myself at wanting to be the gf

Not like I'd get anyone anyway

nothing wrong with being gay and cumming in another guys asshole. it’s pretty normal in germany now! you can even have official homo marriage here! super progressive! also lots of gay bukkake gangbang with achmeds and mohammeds in every major german city. allah approves !

we have a big pedo culture in germany as well!

Breed me, I want it so bad

i barely even watch porn anymore so i'm almost clear of the slope entirely

>Sup Forums declaring war on anime and vidya boards
Yeah that'll work out just fine won't it

That is a total meme. You either have mental illness known as gender dysphoria or you don't. You don't developed it through memes, porn and internet. Why do people have it? God knows, theories vary from erotic target location error to under masculinised brains, but none of it is really conclusive, and all are only, theories.

I just hate the meme that I was fucked because of low t or memes. It just happened that I have this curse, and I have zero clue why. I cant say that I perform male rolle badly. While I am not musclebound chad I am not soyboy either. I look and behave like any other mid twenties right wing student, I have had long term gf and potential for decent job. And I am still affected by this curse and I don't know what I will do about it.

Just please, ditch the memes.

>you cant develop mental ilness through the things you do
then explain how /x/ made me a paranoid nutcase

There needs to be an ascending escalator that branches off at MGTOW.

He's wrong, there are genes activated by environmental factors like that

You guys know what website this is, yeah?

>this slope is exactly how it went for me
>currently at "Being the GF"
Am I going to be okay lads?

few people go through this, so pay no attention to it

What will your suicide note look like?

Who could be posting all the trap/faggot/dick threads on Sup Forums? It's an infestation.

One could also have autogynephilia, which is the more degenerate approach to transgenderism/transsexualism.
Due to porn, if you're not careful, one could eventually gain that autogynephillia fetish, in which you want to be the girl in those porn videos, and thereby wanting to be a girl in general (or just a fag, that's also another alternative, but transgenderism alludes to the same thing). If you gain this fetish, then memes and the internet (such as the "tfw no trap mommy gf meme on Instagram) will only enable you to follow through with it and transition into the opposite gender. You can see this with Stefoknee and his autogynephilic DDLG fetish extravaganza, in which the internet forum enabled him to continue with his fetish and ditch his family to continue on living as a 5 year old girl (despite being in his fifties and obviously male). Tumblr, another source from the internet, also enables transgenderism/transsexualism and can also cause one to develop autogynephila/or gender dysphoria, as it has made both into a popularized fad, and thus enables others to follow suit with transitioning so as to become part of the in group; See any gender queermo for reference.
So this isn't entirely a total meme; all these things can accelerate transitioning if gender dysphoria or autogynephilia is present, or it can cause the individual to develop gender dysphoria or autogynephilia as they see all these things are are influenced by them.

I was and I guess I am still in the same place as you, though. Had the same problem in about four different parts in my life, and it's been slowly creeping in for the fifth time. Nip it in the bud any chance you get; I'd recommend increasing your T and working out, as that's what I'm trying to do right now. Glad you haven't let it change who you are; I applaud you for that and I hope you keep it up.

This.

Have you seen the egg meme? It's when trannies pray on weak, unmanly men, and convinces them that they're trans. (this is very prevalent in the speedrunning community. Look it up.) It's like a fucking cult. If you google something like "am I transgender" this website comes up.

amitransgender.thetransagenda.com/

You can get rid of AGP with standard paraphilic therapy. Still a bitch to deal with.

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i think it's the way we were raised, my mom was a fucking feminist and she made me a feminine man, no woman likes me, so it's either be alone or be a fag

Yeah I know about autogynephilia and I have it, but I didn't developed it through porn, cause I was girl in sex fantasies even before I knew about porn amd trannies. It was great source of great confusion for me.

My plan for now is getting good job asap as that would probably increase my confidence in my male self.

I don’t want to go to that website. Got any stories or sagas? I wonder how often trapchasers convince young men to start taking estro.

Understood this, it's also clear what is in the bible. The stickman is so impure, that it's impossible to cure that one.

>be me
>get impure thoughts about women
>watch porn
>later realize that there's a way out
>getting on NoFap
>stop fapping for a week
>permanently stop watching porn
>download the bible app
>read the bible
>use Chivalry towards women
>talk to woman and identify yourself as herself
>she knows me
>whenever I meet her she greets me

Topkek

PS what the hell is an egg meme?

Porn is the first stage
Hentai second stage
And after you have third stage and other stages

>from first to 2nd stage you can fix yourself
>the detox is a cocktail of a bible book or bible text and chivalry
>deobjectify women

That anyone with anything that could even remotely be connected to transgenderism, is trans.

i.e they're a trans person in a shell. Thay haven't understood that they're trans yet.

Example.

>Timmy: "I'm uncomfortable with some masculine expectations, and I fap to Traps."

>/lgbt/ poster: "WOwE that's just like me when I was in total denial. You should read The Null HypotheCis**. You can buy estrogen on this website *link* good luck gurl.


** The Null HypotheCis pretty much says that only trans people question themselves if they're trans. As a "cis" person would never even question if they're cis or not.

> tfw time is a flat circle and I can't break the cycle of eternal rebirth and depart samsara for nirvana
Existance. Is. Suffering.

Well of course literature should be available, but that book sounds like outright abuse of certain cluster C conditions. Infact it should probably be banned.

How do we change this?
By coming up with an ideology that is going to change an individual's action at the ''every day'' level.

Create new institutions for men.I mean for fuck's sake, if someone would just create some type of edgy fashy bootcamp every incel and faggot would join.

When you're 16 yo, addicted to pornography, playing muh vidya :3 and dressing up in long rainbow socks, it really doesn't take much to make you feel alive.

Pol has already changed this. It’s an issue of attention, something you get plenty of here.

I am not talking about genuine dysphorics of course though.

So you're saying it was a mistake?

If a group of people who are worthy and powerful enough to create these types of institutions that are supposed to replace (((modern education))) and ''muh degenerate pastimes'' then the proof will be in the pudding.
When alpha gorilla dick nigga gods are going to be pumped out en mass scale then women will simply recognise what the fuck is up.

And no, I'm not talking about a bunch of alt-right losers getting together with tiki torches crying about evil kikes :(((((.

I like 3d > 2d but still realize women are shit.

are you troglodytes capable of understanding that you can hate women and still be a normal heterosexual?
or is that too nuanced of a concept for you brainletts?

>Sup Forums has already changed this.
are you retarded.
Do you seriously think le political imageboard is some bastion of new-age fascism?

God, you people are so dense.

It's not a book. It's like a 1000 word website essay made by some wannabe journalist trans memer.

I haven't read it in forever tho.

.t dude who questioned his sexuality when he was 14, got told that his experiences matches theirs and that they just found out that they're trans.

Then proceeds to read everything about transgenderism, cry himself to sleep. Eventually just forgot about it and continued living his as normal. hit him 5 years later and now continuously hits him about one time a year, which leaves him a week of sobbing and questioning.


sorry I just needed to went.

Now I kind of want to read it, even though it does sound like mental abuse. Mind posting it here?

>How do we stop it?
We dont stop . Its natural selection at work

Stop being faggots

Young men are learning the truth here im only 18 years old and i gotta say Sup Forums has taught me alot! I support young men comming here and communicating with others and sharing knowledge/opinions

Too long to post the entire text.
Here's a link

freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed/2012/04/17/the-null-hypothecis/

You stupid faggots leaking in a long time ago. Youre just lucky your anime lolis are cute with trump memorabilia crudely photoshopped on them and no one seriously pays attention to you

Ain’t klicking that. Surely you can post it in several posts?

So do you still believe trump is "the savior of the white race"?

Basically do you still support him?

this is an anime website you dumb shit

you stormkikes are the ones who don't belong here
also kys

OP, if you got this much backlash from so many posts you may be onto something. Ive often noticed once you make the switch to anime porn, youre months away from watching pegging and onto being a trans mtf

Fuck off Julian, that doesnt pertain to this topic.
Im not a stormkike, Im simply saying that since new boards have been created since Sup Forums you faggots infest it with your lolis immediately. You cant be contained, similar to members of this board or Sup Forums

Sure I guess, I have nothing better to do.

HERE.

>When you spend enough time hanging around trans folk, and talking together, sharing, reminiscing, telling stories, kvetching about all the irritating things the grues do, articulating your experiences and listening to theirs and finding those pangs of recognition that assure you (at last!) that it isn’t / wasn’t something unique to your own little mismatched brain, you begin to recognize commonalities. Recurrent themes. Motifs. Certain stories that get retold again and again across our lives, varying the genres and settings and principal protagonists but not the arc.

>Amongst these are the stories of denial. The methods we used for convincing ourselves we can’t possibly really be trans, we simply must be making a mistake. They echo the concepts that thread through cis society and are used as a means of invalidating us. “It’s probably just a kink, a sex thing”, “it’s just a phase… if I just settle down with a woman, maybe have some kids, and learn how to be a good man, it will go away”, “doesn’t everybody, on some level, sort of want to be the opposite sex?”, “I should just learn to live with being a feminine man”, “I just need to man-up, be more masculine, that will make it go away”, “maybe I’m just a self-hating gay man?”, “maybe I can just cross-dress on weekends? That will be good enough”, “It’s just my asberger’s”, “just my OCD”, “just my depression”, “just my lack of confidence”, “just my hatred of my identity”, “just…”.

>And deepening this denial is the assumption that in order to accept the possibility of being trans, we have to prove it to ourselves. This, again, eerily echoes the external invalidations, demands and expectations placed upon us, as in the gatekeeping model. “But how do I know I’m trans? What if I’m wrong? What if I’m making a mistake? What if I regret it?”

Ok fine than lets talk about the OP's topic do you seriously think its bad for young adult men to come to Sup Forums? Your stereotype about anime is hysterical

>These doubts typically persist well into the process of beginning transition, and usually don’t abate until the actual medical, physical processes (with their attendant joys, comfort and relief) have begun. We almost all are eventually approached by a young, new transitioner, who confides those doubts in us. And we’ve all heard it a million times before. Everyone, even the most confident, assured, outgoing and proud members of our community were at one time just as unsure, still struggling to work past the baggage of self-denial we’d carried along, and so meticulously constructed, for most of our lives.

>What’s interesting, and where this again, for me, sheds a lot of light on the amazingly strange ways that belief and doubt operate in the human mind, on what beautifully irrational little things we are, and feels like an important touchstone for skeptics to explore, is that a lot of this irrational denial can itself be framed as the due, logical level of skepticism that such a drastic decision demands.

>After all, surely if we’re going to risk so much, put so much at stake, in such a monumental “decision”, we should approach it carefully, and make sure to be certain, right? Shouldn’t we be looking for proof that we’re trans before gambling our whole lives on that being the case?

>Well, maybe… if proof of being trans was even really something possible, beyond the simple proof of subjectively experiencing your identity and gender as such. But more importantly: we never ask ourselves for “proof” that we’re cis.

>Cis is treated as the null hypothesis. It doesn’t require any evidence. It’s just the assumed given. All suspects are presumed cisgender until proven guilty of transsexuality in a court of painful self-exploration. But this isn’t a viable, logical, “skeptical” way to approach the situation. In fact it’s not a case of a hypothesis being weighed against a null hypothesis (like “there’s a flying teapot orbiting the Earth” vs. “there is no flying teapot orbiting the Earth”), it is simply two competing hypotheses. Two hypotheses that should be held to equal standards and their likelihood weighed against one another.

>When the question is reframed as such, suddenly those self-denials, those ridiculous, painful, self-destructive demands we place on ourselves to come up with “proof” of being trans suddenly start looking a whole lot less valid and rational. When we replace the question “Am I sure I’m trans?” with the question “Based on the evidence that is available, and what my thoughts, behaviours, past and feelings suggest, what is more likely: that I’m trans or that I’m cis?” what was once an impossible, unresolvable question is replaced by one that’s answer is painfully obvious.

Been stuck between Porn and 2D porn for like 20 years. Probably going to stay there desu both kinds of porn are alright actually.

>Cis people may wonder about being the opposite sex, but they don’t obsessively dream of it. Cis people don’t constantly go over the question of transition, again and again, throughout their lives. Cis people don’t find themselves in this kind of crisis. Cis people don’t secretly spend every birthday wish on wanting to wake up magically transformed into the “opposite” sex, nor do they spend years developing increasingly precise variations of how they’d like this wish to be fulfilled. Cis people don’t spend all-nighters on the internet secretly researching transition, and secretly looking at who transitioned at what age, how much money they had, how much their features resemble their own, and try to figure out what their own results would be. Cis people don’t get enormously excited when really really terrible movies that just happen to include gender-bending themes, like “Switch” or “Dr. Jekyl And Mrs. Hyde”, randomly pop up on late night TV, and stay up just to watch them. Etc.

>It makes sense to approach issues carefully, and remember to hesitate, doubt and question. But this only operates as constructive skepticism when the questions aren’t slanted towards biases, when the skepticism is equally distributed. To hold the idea of being trans to a highly critical standard, but to not hold the idea of being cis to any critical inquiry whatsoever, is not a rational skepticism, it is leaning into a particular perspective and conclusion you’re unfairly privileging, and attempting to rationalize a cultural bias (and psychological fear).

>To question one without questioning the other is no more an example of constructive, critical skepticism than is questioning the profit motives and bias of Big Pharma but taking it on faith that alt-med practitioners, naturopaths and homeopaths have nothing but good intentions. Or like trying to poke holes in the theory of evolution while simply leaving The Good Book as the assumed bedrock truth.

>A good scientist doesn’t simply rigorously question one particular theory while leaving all other theories unchallenged. A good scientist weighs all the competiting hypotheses against one another on equal footing, equally demanding of evidence. At the very least, if she falsifies something, she knows to limit the conclusion to “this particular hypothesis is incorrect”, not suddenly assuming that a different hypothesis she happens to fancy must therefore be correct.

>And you can’t falsify something as wholly subjectively defined as a gender identity anyway. And if you can’t falsify a claim, it’s a bit silly to demand it to be proven.

pic related

>This treatment of cisgenderism as so thoroughly unmarked, so deeply embedded as the assumed default, the privileged “normal”, that is conceptually rendered the null hypothesis, the case that must only be disproven and never, ever is itself held as something that needs to be questioned, proven, something that one ought be “sure of”, that it ends up rendering cisnormativity a force so powerfully ingrained in our culture that it’s almost wholly inextricable. It fuels the attitudes that are taken towards deception and disclosure (“why didn’t you TELL ME you’re trans?” “Why didn’t you ask?” “Why would I ask?“), towards “passability” (“but you don’t look trans!”), towards our representation (Why are only explicitly trans characters ever considered trans characters? Is there anything really stopping us from imagining Princess Peach, Aloe & Lotus, Han Solo or Appolonia as transsexual?) our sexuality, our political and social and interpersonal responsibilities… so much hinges on the idea that unless you’re proven to be trans, you’re cis, and that’s that.

>And of course the entire gatekeeping procedure is an extreme externalization of this entrenched cisnormativity, the assumption that cis is so incredibly “normal” that it’s the null hypothesis, that the burden of proof falls entirely on the hypothesis that the patient is trans, that she must meet a number of strict criteria before her claims to her gender identity will be accepted as true. At no point in the conventional gatekeeping model is the doctor ever expected to provide any evidence proving the contrary position, that the patient is really cis. And if a doctor or therapist suggests some possible theory for why a cis patient would become “duped” into believing himself transgender, again the burden of proof falls to the patient to falsify their assertion rather than for them to falsify her’s.

>This whole idea that your subjective identity can’t be legitimate unless you’re somehow able to back it up with objective evidence is a pretty awful situation to be put in, especially when you’re inflicting it on yourself, given how any “proof” of being trans is entirely dependent on subjective experience. What proves that you’re trans is only to understand yourself as trans. When dealing with gatekeepers and family and the numerous external forces that would deny us our identities, it’s not such a crippling situation, because at least we know, and we are the proof, and beyond that it’s simply a matter of figuring out what they think would count as “proof” and what exactly they need to see or hear to believe you (if anything). But when imposing this situation on yourself, when the only possible actual certainty is in accepting and understanding yourself as trans, but you refuse to accept and understand yourself as such until you have that certainty… you’ve created an impossible situation for yourself.

>Maybe someday we’ll have brain scans that can analyze the parts of the brain that are “atypical” (or, as I’ve taken to saying, extraordinary) in gender variant individuals and thereby determine whether or not you have the neurological features that indicate a predisposition to transgenderism, the best it could do is determine a predisposition. Such a system could never ethically be used as a singular, definitive diagnostic tool, and given the subjectivity and self-determined nature of gender, there’d still be an abundance of “false positives” and “false negatives” (though even those concepts don’t make much sense). The responsibility for giving yourself permission to define yourself as a woman, a man, in-between, both, neither, or apart would still land on your shoulders. The same questions would linger. And we’d just come up with new ways to rationalize it away and maintain denial.

>Truthfully, you’re always going to be able to find little “what ifs”. Little uncertainties. Little bits and pieces of yourself that MAYBE aren’t TOTALLY in line with the gender to which you’re transitioning (or wish to transition). Aspects of who you are that don’t fit into the archetypal, perfect, “true transsexual” narrative. Nobody fits that narrative perfectly. And yeah, maybe, philosophically speaking, a given trans woman might on some level “really be a dude” and a given trans man might in some way “really be a chick”. But you know, even if that IS true of yourself, and you aren’t “really trans” or aren’t “trans enough”… whatever parts of yourself, whatever fragments of you might “really” be cis or “really” your assigned sex, they really don’t mean a damn thing beyond what they mean for you. And frankly, if being “really” cis and “really” your assigned sex, playing along with who you “really” are, isn’t doing a sufficient job of making you happy and well and at home in your body, then you should tell it to go fuck itself. Go ahead and give yourself permission to “be something you’re not”, proof or no proof, if that’s what’s going to give you a chance at some semblance of happiness, comfort and fulfillment in this life. That’s all we’ve got, after all. And no one gets to judge your identity and its sincerity and legitimacy but you.

>When we start looking for approval of our feelings, and assurances that they’re real and that they count, beyond the subjective certainty and realness of experiencing those feelings, we’re lost. Well and truly lost, looking for a path we simply can’t find. And when you’ve made doing what you need to do in order to be happy conditional on that approval and assurance, we’ve resigned ourselves to unhappiness. A self, an identity, a gender… these aren’t really fixed, concrete facts in the world. These are means. Processes by which we understand ourselves and our relationship to things, and articulate and express them. You’re never going to get any certainty beyond the certainty you yourself assert, or any assurance beyond the sense of I am. This is who I am. This is what I am experiencing. This is what I want. >This is what I need to do.

>That’s all the evidence you’ll ever have, and all the evidence you’ll ever need.


PHEW THAT'S IT

>talking shit about SHAFT
i hope you get shot irl

>SHAFT
wew

Didn't read.

I cant help how I look, and looking like a woman does something to a man. I cant
go anywher without women giggling at how cute I am and men either hating me or feminizing me for it. Thats not to say I dont like being gay. Its awesome. But it is a complex issue.

It's better if you don't.

>no videya

wtf I hate Sup Forums now

>Saving yourself for marriage and enjoying things is pathetic

Well done, Aquafresh.

How do these fags ever get to the trap point? That's a sign of something mentally wrong. I've watched porn for fifteen years but never once gotten any urge to "be the girl" or whatever the fuck this shit is. Sure I have other fucked up fetishes but nothing this bad.

Oh guys, you don't know how I wish you were right. That it would be something relatively easy to get rid off. Escapism and worked some time for me, sadly they don't anymore, and I really don't know what has remain for me. All I can't think about is about being a girl, despite I know that this is irrational wish and impossible one to achieve. Life is simply existential torture.

The first three paragraphs confirm my itch. This seems massively dangerious for cluster C disorders. It should probably be taken down.

The ops pic is more about crossdressers and trenders.

>shaft fags

>cluster C disorders.

Yeah.

I'm getting a gun and killing kikes. Suicide is for faggots.

go back to mlpol.net

I doubt in existence of Trenders except for non transitioning NB's. Why would anyone chose this torture? Idk, perhaps I will hrt a shoot as last resort option, as I am unable to function anymore.