Why do you hate communism, Sup Forums? Do you even know the first thing about it?

Why do you hate communism, Sup Forums? Do you even know the first thing about it?

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Saw the results in CCCP in on a visit in 93'. It's shit.

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I know it's track record and that's enough

Fuck off tranny

we dont hate communism we hate communists

>mfw the USSR boomed during the Great Depression
>Universal healthcare and doubling of life expectancy
>Elimination of homelessness and unemployment
>defeated the Nazis in WW2
>first man in space
>equal pay for equal work, regardless of gender
What is this "track record" you have that exists in your alternate timeline of history?

>Do you even know the first thing about it?
Yes, thats literally why I hate it. Fuck off.

Thanks to communism we now know that starvation is cheaper than bullets!
Thanks communism!

>USSR no longer exists

Piss off commie scum.

The end of that story...

There are no real communists in the west. I don’t hate it.

> massive purges, brutal policing
> famines caused by ideological overrule of sciences
> invasion and occupation of sovereign nations even in peace, denouncing imperialism while building an empire
> absurd economic and social model leading to collapse and dissolution

Because it's basically Judaism.

>Mass killings
>Millions died
>Forced famines
>Destruction of culture and communities
>Anyone who actually experienced communism knows it's a shit ideology that breeds corruption and lack of personal values

Communism goes against human nature. You have to be incredibly dense to actually advocate for such a terrible ideology.

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Because 'real world communism' always ends up as a corrupt tyrannical system, under a dictator, an elite, or bureaucracy.
In the end, any government system can work pretty well, AS LONG AS CORRUPTION IS KEPT LOW.
So who cares if the communist ideals are so lofty, if they are always buried under the shit coming out of the sewer of corruption?

>BUT THE USSR DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE CHECKMATE COMMIE!121!
Neither does Austria-Hungary, faggot, does that mean that capitalism has failed? Fuck off

>communism was never really tried

>If a builder builds my house, he is its rightful owner

>An agrarian nation 50 years if not more behind the Western world modernizes a bit and goes industrial
>Quality of life improves
Who could ever expect that?

>rich get richer by making poor people poorer, that's why rich get richer faster, and fuck math

It is materialistic and unbiblical

It works better in some countries than others

That wasn't my argument.

You just want free shit, faggot

I know it’s shit-tier ideology for edgy teenagers and those who don’t want to work for a living.

>why do some people need to own big houses?

Its a great start to understand basic economics and how to avoid idealistic ideologies that present a utopia as the final result.

>better in some countries
like?

Commimisim is a jewish creation that murdered 66 million people between 1918 and 1956 and was backed by international banking.

>the wealth in a society is limited, if some get rich, some get poorer. Somehow we left stone age.

all of its followers are either burned out, dirty potheads who carry a picture of general Mao in their pocket
or Mkultra warped boomers that think they are enlightened beings because they got LSD from the CIA
kill yourself, op

>businesses decide the price of their products

The USSR wasn't communist.

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It's never existed.

I just was born hating commies, like it’s common sense.

Africa.

Intentionally starving niggers? Whats not to like?

If communism failed in germany it will fail everywhere else.

Ukraine, in the ussr, everyone had a house, a job, food. Now Ukrainian girls have to suck Turkish dick to survive while the corrupt political elite make millions by abusing their power.

Socialism IS NOT Communism.

Why does it go against human nature?

>capitalism is evil. posted by me Iphone 8

Bolshevik revolution was

Because you're spamming my board with commie generals.

Stop.

>Ukraine

I don’t understand your point user?

>price=value

Turns out ancap memes are pretty real after all.

Soviet Union also didn't exist in 1993...

False

You're s shit parrot

>value is objective

It is impossible. To balance the planned economy of a small country, all the computing power of terrestrial supercomputers is needed.

t.I studied the works of Victor Glushkov; projetc OGAS and Cybersin

Because it causes wasted resources, scarcity of food, poverty, low quality items produced, and it disregards the idea of earning things and owning things? Because it's retarded? Take your fucking pick commie scum.

No it wasn't. The Bolsheviks killed off the existing workers councils and worker control from the Russian Revolution and instated State Capitalism as Lenin called it.

>if we convince ourselves everything is not communism it can never fail
Or you could realize your ideology is literally impossible to implement without killing off half your population

Please tell me. What country was a stateless,classless,moneyless socialist society?

It failed on it's own, worst ideology ever.

>Or you could realize your ideology is literally impossible to implement without killing off half your population


Source?

Communism is like a religion and requires to much devotion. A better question is. Why hasn't everyone converted to Baltic Paganism?

Can't rewrite history, boy

>famine
>purges
>slave labour
>civil war
>war
>brutal suppression
>mass killings and imprisonment
>no freedom of speech, ownership or any freedom at all.
>more famine and misery.


This is what I think of when I hear communism. Nobody would want this, communism was a failed and very sad experiment the East's people had to bear the absolute worst.

So you want anarchy?

Every attempt at establishing communism.
you admit right here its impossible to implement ideally you just dont see it cause youre a little slow.

>capitalism is redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich.

youtube.com/watch?v=06-XcAiswY4

The article in the description has Chomsky sources but there is no point in even checking because Chomsky is always right.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't communism basically boil down to everyone being a slave to the state?

It ensures you have your needs fulfilled in exchange for the labor it demands you do for it. At least until the resources dry up.

Your example of good communism is a nuclear meltdown?

That's not what communist is.

No, user, he is not saying that, it's just that you don't know what communism actually means and no meme or post is going to teach you that.

True communism is literally primitivism leeching off the breakthroughs of capitalism. Luckily the average person isn't that retarded which is why "true communism" has never been tried meme.

I don't want anarchy. That's what communists want.

Also nice meme

I know the number one thing op should know about communism. That he’d be among the first purged if it was implemented.

State control is a huge part of communism, as a transition stage. Given that the transition stage fails every time, why do you want to keep trying?

No you're just both to retarded to see why that is what hes saying. And that's okay, cause if your commie utopia ever does happen 99% chance you and him will be some of the first to go.

>Every attempt at establishing communism.

Which ones?

>you admit right here its impossible to implement ideally you just dont see it cause youre a little slow.

Educate me pls

Why is there always a all powerful leader who has full reign to execute anyone he wants.

Communism is stateless.

>thats what communists want
>flag

???

Educate yourself

And then go get a job

>communism is based on the economical science of socialism, created by philosopher and real economist Karl Marx.

I mean unless Marx's words mean nothing than yeah it is. Here is the definition from the wikipedia page.


"In political and social sciences, communism is the philosophical, social, political and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money and the state."

No, user, we get what he wants to say, but the major problem that hinders any possibility for fruitful discussion is that he doesn't know what communism means.

I believe you'll find that that is called anarchy.

I have a question for all sides.
Capitalism existed since the dawn of human civilization and since then it has improvised its faults countless times. Why don't communists try to study the failures of their system and try to improvise it like capitalists did?

>>implying meltdowns haven’t occurred in other countries like Britain and the USA

Moлoдeц

>Communism is stateless.
Lolwat? Have you ever read Marx?

Western millenials are fucking stupid mutts!

All of them. You should know your history. USSR alone had 5-10x the amount of deaths Hitler caused, depending on which number you want to believe.

>Educate me pls
lets just remove all the things that made society work and try to live like a bunch of primitive retards because thats what happens when you get what you want. there is a reason all these systems were implemented into society. Money has a purpose, class has a purpose, the state has a purpose. Can you educate me how you maintain this classless, moneyless, stateless society?

It never is though

The idea is best until people get involved

Nice argument. You know you are going to lose.

>the USSR wasn't REAL communism
>we wuz fascist killerz n' shieeeet
Pick one and only one

Correct
It is a retarded utopian fantasy that will never actually happen

Constant harassment since inception. Not a good soil for liberty.

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>Because it's never been implemented

>>>implying meltdowns haven’t occurred in other countries like Britain and the USA
Yes

That's what Marx wrote my dude. Look two posts above yours.

Your future.

Because it's implementation would be only possible to people who already lived in a 'perfect communism'. It is a utopia, meaning there is no probable set of events leading from here to there.

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No no
We hate both

Forgive me. The former CCCP. Does that suit?