Fansubs declared illegal in the netherlands
>fansubbing is illegal
>smoking weed is OK
What a strange country.
hopefully it doesnt spread
its always been illegal everywhere, you cannot translate something without the authors´s consent.
Has never stopped anyone of course and it never will.
Thank god I don't live in Dutch.
>you cannot translate something without the authors´s consent
You can as long as you don't package it with the original, copyrighted work. Making a subtitle file that can be used with a media player or something is fine.
Nope the author is the one that has to authorize a translation period.
This is exactly what the court case was about though.
This.
It's impressive people can think fansub is legal.
it's not legal by companies which want to keep all the sheckel, but authors don't give a crap if their work spreads in other languages too
the same thing with fan art, you won't see an artist complaining about fan art made by others if his characters, but companies which hold paid said artists
illegal just means what you are doing pissing off somebody with more power than you
>you won't see an artist complaining about fan art made by others if his characters
You do see it sometimes.
HOUD JE KANKER BEK OP REEEEEEE
Our country is pretty nice though. Only problem is we have a few mudslimes like turkroaches and mocros but besides that it is a 10/10
It's the Netherlands, our laws are more guidelines than absolutes.
So is murder just kind of like a slap on the wrists?
How long do you think people get senteced for murders in EU when the justice system aims to rehabilitate people?
>make medium rare steak
>get sued by gordon ramsay
That court is just retarded. It is common for courts to make retarded decisions.
Fansubbing itself has never been and never will be illegal anyehere short of a couple of retarded exceptions like OP due to the nature of the subs themselves.
By that fucking logic, merely quoting the movie lines in text and spreading it woud already be an infringement when it is clearly not.
>Only problem is we have a few mudslimes like turkroaches and mocros
Not for long my fellow compatriot, not for long.
Doubt that it will change things much around here though, internet censorship is not really a thing here and piracy is rarely punished
I don't know, but I'm assuming it's not very long.
I fucking hate the dutch so much
>its always been illegal everywhere, you cannot translate something without the authors´s consent.
> yayo ubusoloko mthethweni yonke, awukwazi translate into ngaphandle kwemvume yombhali
What now fucker
Why?
Has he had cosmetic surgery? Those eys look a bit freaky, also I guess the hair is great way to make sure everyone remembers your clown like appearance.
He's trans-Dutch, used to be Korean.
Not sure he is known as the racist politician in our country.
He really seems to hate mudslimes specifically.
>Korean
Indo.
And does he has a chance to win anything?
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He's not interested in winning.
He actually did very well, during our last elections.
His political party was the second most voted for in our country.
A lot of people were caught off guard by that.
In finland the Persu party won by appealing to racists and essentially dropped out of goverment so they wouldnt actually have to run things
In Britain the moment Brexit won the people pushing for it dropped out of the leadership race.
I think theres a pattern here.
>Farage
>leadership race
Yeah no.
He's Nigel Powers
making fansubs isn't illegal
it's distributing them that is
this is entirely consistent with copyright infringement laws
>Europeans will call us 56% while they allow this to happen
I'm pretty sure this is already the case in other countries, the Netherlands have always been very lax with copyright infringements, up until a few years ago downloading copyrighted material wasn't even illegal (only distributing it was). I don't think this'll really change anything.
I though we finished these discussions decade ago. It was never legal except, possibly, few very specific cases that fansuber never did.
even if it does who cares? it's not like subs are shared via srt or ass file format. they are muxed together with the video so in the end the result is the same. their politicians are just giving the ass to majors
same laws don't apply in every country. for example in my country sharing srt or ass files is fine, sharing hardsubbed or softsubbed video it's not
I expect an appeal.
they are just covering a grey area that was exploited by fanservices to share "illegal" content. they are probably filling the holes
Didn't a similar thing happen in Denmark? That aside, Germany's AfD had a similar thing happening just yesterday. The party's leader wanted to change the AfD so it could actually be fit to lead the goddamn country but she got kicked down hard by the rest of the party who would rather scream as the opposition forever instead of taking things in their own hands.
So all the right wing european nationalists are just a bunch of spineless faggots?
It checks out
you can't blame the court. they are applying the laws. if you think this is stupid blame who wrote the laws
not really
No surprise really. Although I hardly ever agree with them, I don't have anything against them defending their views, those are vital in democratic discussions after all. I do however despise them for always acting tough for muh country but as soon as something goes wrong, they go to the next boogeyman or jump the ship altogether because they are just too much of a pussy to actually take responsibility for the country they "stand for" or are just simply scared of the public backlash they always incite towards the other parties. Not all of them ofc, but a large part
Well, this one guy who killed 8 people and 69 leftists get like what, 21 years in 3 star hotel?
Goddamnit, I hate BREIN so much. They're just as cancerous as the NS.
Except laws are intentionally vague and open for interpretation, and previous court rulings are incredibly important for future court rulings.
>distributing copyrighted material
>legal
That's ridiculous. So if someone says something in another language, I need to ask their permission before putting it into google translate or asking someone what was said?
If you are going to make the translation publicly available to others and widely distribute it yes
who does it harm if we are fansubbing a product that will never be released in our country anyways?
we aren't taking any sales from them. in fact, the fansub might generate enough interest for them to export a proper product to our market.
>the fansub might generate enough interest for them to export a proper product to our market.
This has happened a lot in history and I wonder why more creators or publishers have a more favorable outlook on fansubbing.
Look at Dangan Ronpa, a translated LP generated enough hype for Spike to justify releasing the games properly in English. They even made off even better by doing individual releases for the PSP instead of the combined release that already existed.
Yeah, legally speaking fansubbing is dubiously legal depending on the country in question, but most of the time its for products that have no official release to begin with.
Welp. Time to ditch torrents and go full IRC then.
BREIN confirmed for kankerlullen
I feel a need to remind people the artist behind Ellen Baker had to ask the internet to stop drawing porn of her, as it was affecting his career.
pretty sure that ruling is talking about .ass files, not the video rips
>declaring something that's already illegal to be illegal like this changes anything
So what? In the anime community fansubs (where they still exist) are almost always distributed with a copy of the show which was already illegal.
That was only because Ellen was featured in literal children's textbooks.
Does copyright even apply when the anime in question isn't licensed in Europe/the US?
Si vous allez rendre la traduction accessible aux autres et la diffuser largement oui
Better call the police then.
What retarded company even goes to court over this.
Are you trying to be retarded on purpose?
I would have had to claim ownership of that post I made and try to sell it first.
Essaye-tu d'être retardé à dessein?
J'aurais dû réclamer la propriété de ce poste que j'ai fait et essayer de le vendre en premier.
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Is there a good app to stream animes gois, I'm going on vacation and don't have a laptop
People say "thing is illegal" like it actually means something. If the chance of getting locked away are slim to none, who gives a fuck if it's illegal?
Sure retard sure
>and try to sell it first.
How are you trying to prove that ? Is subtitling legal before a work has sold it's first copy ?
Grinder
We'll work on that next. Junkies out!
>read user post
>it's a crime since my country's official language isn't bongspeak
A-am I safe?
yes, copyright isn't like patents where you need to apply for them in a region. Through treaties (berne convention, WIPO membership) it's recognized internationally
if you were torrenting actual videos instead of just the .ass sub files it was already illegal, surely
Is this a netherland thread?
that seems like a pretty shitty language textbook though
nobody except Japan (and weebs who watch anime) uses the word "bloomers" to mean those things
That is an edit you realise.
>nobody except Japan
It's a jap textbook
the point of learning foreign languages is to speak with people who aren't in japan
>boyfriend
English officially dropped
Not in Japan it's not.
What is it for, then? to show off?
Why are Dutch people so goofy?
Leave the weed masters to me.
Buy BD/DVDs anyway, or let productions be dwindled.
I can see the future that we're all sobbing bitterly.
>he doesn't know
>first world
>no money to pay some legal streaming shit
Explain this.
Kinky.
she didn't say that stop reading anime news from reddit
To teach them wrongly on purpose.
Explain the Gallagher pic.
That's a myth.
Friendly reminder to donate to fansub groups and help supply raws before anime is dead.
Piracy is already illegal
Animefags on Sup Forums are too inept to do that.
It's useless, you'll have to rely on normal fags who have money, but all they donate to are entry tier shits.
Start learning japanese
If you are reading this thread:
DONATE TO FANSUBBERS AND HELP SUPPLY RAWS. Someone can make a list of the more active ones but Saizen/Hokuto no Gun are good ones.
Fuck that. I'm going to be speaking japanese and westerners can fuck off from anime for all I care.
as a joke?