Dragon Ball Super

A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST

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Did somebody say brilliant scientist?

Gohanbros unite.

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Why is your pic so shitty?

He will never be relevant again, he semi-jobbed to a furry from the weakest universe

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Do you know what a homage is? Do you dude? I don't think you do

When's Piccolo gonna get the power boost he deserves to be back on par with Goku?

>i-it's a homage g-guys! /o-ourguy!/

Nope.

cool homage dude

Frost is a cheating nigger that doesn't count.

>i-it's j-just a homage when toyotaro does it guys i s-swear

>on par with Goku
Will never happen.
He will always be below Gohan, but above Krillin.

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nice canon bro

>Toei copied Toei! i-its the s-same thing!
>w-when someone else copies it makes it okay for Toyo to copy!
Fucking Toyopedros, I can't believe it.

Reminder that Freeza made Vegeta cry like a bitch

"""Homages"""" shouldn't be happening 4 times in a single chapter. At that point, it's laziness/tracing.

nice toei man
toyo's panel isn't congruent so it isn't traced bud
nice meme though

>muh canon
I'm glad you're proud that Toyo doesn't have the talent to come up with his own shit.

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God, this is potato quality if I've ever seen it

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Not traced, just straight-up copied, that makes it better though
You Toyocucks are so fucking pathetic

>muh creativity
i'm glad you're proud of your fanfiction, pedro
the rest of us enjoy reading the actual story of goku and the z fighters
>durr what is a reference? i'm retarded btw
ftfy

Reminder that takahata is an insufferable faggot with the worst weeb personality.

That asshole should never be allowed to speak when he's not acting.

Pretty cool fight, but I'm pretty sure special beam cannon > than Kamehameha wave, since it's more of a penetrating drill than a giant push back blast.

hahaha

>being this in denial
Toyo could release an entire chapter in which every single panel was actually, legitimately traced, and every single line of dialogue was taken from a volume of DB with some of the names changed to make sense in Super, and you fucking Pedros would still defend it.

how will toeispics ever recover?
>Toyo could release an entire chapter in which every single panel was actually, legitimately traced, and every single line of dialogue was taken from a volume of DB with some of the names changed to make sense in Super, and you fucking Pedros would still defend it.
you going to back that up or nah?

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>some autistic Toyospic actually took the time to make this cringey shit
Back what up? That Toyocucks would defend Toyo if he released a chapter that was entirely blank except for one panel that showed a traced picture of a pile of dog shit? There's no need for me to back up, you're backing it up as we speak.

Such is the life of cuckolds. They would lick Toyotaros smegma covered lips if he asked them to.

Apologize

>some autistic Toyospic actually took the time to make this cringey shit

dude i get that you prefer your fanfiction over the canon manga written by toriyama and illustrated by toyotaro, but that doesn't make your fanfiction canon
>Back what up?
back up the post i highlighted, toeipedro

I did a new one, guys

Funny how people bitched and called GT trash because of things like 17+17 being able to stand up to SS4. Now 17 fighting on par with SSB after training with poachers in DBS is being fiercely defended.

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>Android 17 + Android 17 (with a trenchcoat!)=SS4

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>The power-scaling in GT bothered me a lot
>Two Android 17's >= SS4 Goku

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>Two Android 17's > SS4

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>Extreme power discrepancies, like Super 17's existence and Base Kid Goku being stronger than SS4 Goku at times

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>Super 17 >= SS4 Goku

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>At least DBS is much more consistent in terms of power-scaling than GT
>Two Android 17's >= SS4 Goku

anyone who makes shit like this is an autist. Anyone. I don't care if they're a Toyocuck, a Toeishill, or a dead gay black Vietnam transvestite.

>that doesn't make your fanfiction canon

That's ironic considering Cuckataro literally stole ideas from his own fanfic and incorportated it into his shitty promotional manga.

>back up the post i highlighted, toeipedro
>being this fucking retarded
I shouldn't have expected anything more from a Toyocuck.

SHIT

I thought I was using mangastream's scan but I see it's viz's now
I'm fucking stupid

Do you think Gohan will beat Piccolo the next episode or will he be forced to take his daily dose?

lol and didn't S17 get most of his power from absorbing ki from other people? if i remember right, he didn't even start anywhere near SSJ4 level
how will supercucks ever recover?
>That's ironic considering Cuckataro literally stole ideas from his own fanfic and incorportated it into his shitty promotional manga.
oh you mean the manga toriyama definitely read and loved so much decided to hire toyo over?
nice to see you've devolved into gibberish, typical toeishill behavior

Saved anyway

Toriyama is senile and doesn't give a fuck stupid Toyocuck, nobody cares what he thinks

>oh you mean the manga toriyama definitely read and loved so much decided to hire toyo over?
>more delusion
>anything I'm too stupid to understand is gibberish
I wish you'd just kill yourself already, Toyopedro.

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>nobody cares what he thinks
then why are you here, spic?
more gibberish, very nice

(You)

nice rebuttal, pedro

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Reminder that all Toyocucks are literally either mexican or canadian.

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Also autistic, don't forget that

why doesn't goku just use nanomachines, son goku?

so he can have infinite energy like the Androids 17 and 18

Base Goku > Omega Shenron > Super 17 > SSJ4 Goku.

Cell > Omega Shenron.

Bricks > Trunks.

Yeah he better apologize for that god-awful outfit and having worse animation than Super Shenron.

Building>SS4 Goku

Not handsome. Super's 17 is better than Super 17.

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how would super remake the z ending?

lol when did base goku do anything remarkable to omega shenron using his own energy?

Pan > Majin Buu

Cars > Trunks

Tanked Omega's attacks. Base Goku is stronger than SSJ4. He's even stronger than Super 17 with SSJ4's power absorbed.

>even the fucking wikifags aren't that blind
Kek

Omega Shenron is weaker than Cell though.

>Tanked Omega's attacks
using his own energy? when was that?
>Base Goku is stronger than SSJ4.
you said that earlier with nothing to back it up
>He's even stronger than Super 17 with SSJ4's power absorbed.
source? he beat S17 after 18 guilted him into surrendering, no?
i've never watched GT in its entirety but i've seen all of these scenes and you seem to be remembering them wrong if you've seen them at all

Survived Omega's attacks before and during the Spirit Bomb. Goku didn't absorb any of that energy, it was all in the Spirit Bomb.

Super 17 was still stronger than SSJ4 Goku when base Goku beat him.

Satan was holding back

It was always extremely stupid that two cyborg teenagers were more powerful than the Alien Mutant Emperor and the fabled Super Saiyan to begin with.
If we're truly going complain about powerscaling issues in Dragon Ball then you would need to retread all the way back to the Android Saga, where scaling was thrown right out the window.
Now, taking into account that if a teenager "altered on the cellular level" NANOMACHINES somehow manages to be stronger than Freeza and a Super Saiyan, then I guess it wouldn't be truly fuckin stupid that if that teenager fused with a copy of himself, or that his improved body would be stronger than the powered up forms of than Freeza or SSJ4/Blue if he trained it.

Who am I kidding this is stupid no matter how you look at it, I mean all of it. Logic never actually mattered in this franchise anyway.

>Survived Omega's attacks before and during the Spirit Bomb.
pretty sure he only did that during
>Goku didn't absorb any of that energy, it was all in the Spirit Bomb.
source?
>Super 17 was still stronger than SSJ4 Goku when base Goku beat him.
i already corrected you on this here 18 interfered and C17 surrendered within S17

>i've never watched GT in its entirety but i've seen all of these scenes and you seem to be remembering them wrong if you've seen them at all
Nah he's right, Goku was tanking Omega's attacks in base after getting BTFO as SS4.

>EoZ is canon
>DBS is also canon
>The ending of DBS is like the bad ending of Persona 3.
>U7 loses the Tournament of Power
>Zeno agrees to erase everyone's memories of the events since Goku met GoD Beerus, so everyone goes on living their lives happily like nothing had ever happened.
>This won't change the fact Zeno will delete U7 shortly after
>Goku flies off with Uub to train
>The Universe ends the day afterwards

youtube.com/watch?v=I-CSZDbKuL4

>C17
hi pedro

see

>Goku was tanking Omega's attacks in base after getting BTFO as SS4.
with genki from across the universe, you mean?
what are you talking about? you know he's not an android, right?

I only watch this for Bulma and Vegeta scenes. I skip a lot of the fighting scenes, especially if they are Goku's.

Survived Omega's initial blast, survived Omega's NEGATIVE ENERGY KARMA BALL THAT WASN'T CHANGED TO POSITIVE ENERGY AND USED TO DISSIPATE THE NEGATIVE ENERGY COVERING THE EARTH (You despicable!), survived Omega attacking him while chargin his attack.

Spirit Bomb does not allow you to absorb energy into yourself. Manga makes this abundantly clear when Goku was charging against Vegeta, Frieza, and Buu. Even the movies obey that rule. It's how the Spirit Bomb works.

Super 17 was still stronger. He still should have been strong enough to take Goku's attack easily since he had a barrier up. A barrier that 18 was hitting with Ki blasts. A barrier he did not lower when Goku attacked.

>C17
hi pedro

Gogetafags, how makes you feel that base Vegetto may be stronger than SS Gogeta?

>Spirit Bomb does not allow you to absorb energy into yourself.
it does in the GT continuity, watch the Super C13 movie
>Super 17 was still stronger.
of course, but characters in this franchise can suppress themselves
S17 surrendered after his /emotional damage/ from 18

Before that. And that's not how Spirit Bomb works.

>base Vegetto may be stronger than SS Gogeta?
there is nothing canon to suggest this
watch the Super C13 movie, which is canon in the GT universe

>it does in the GT continuity, watch the Super C13 movie
Incorrect, Super 13 shows Goku is still vulnerable after charging it and had to have everyone defend him. Only after it was fully charged could it be absorbed into Goku's body. Goku could not absorb its power while charging it, consistent with the manga.

>Holding back
paco really

Dragon Fist allows you to hit outside of your weightclass.
see hirudegarn movie.

>there is nothing canon to suggest this
Daizenshuu 7 says that Vegetto strenght is way stronger than a SS3's and SS Gotenks is just SS3 tier, therefore SS Gogeta is as well

>inb4 no muh Gogeta is vastly stronger
Trunks and Goten aren't that far from Goku and Vegeta at all, Gotenks isn't that weak compared to Gogeta.

Goku uses it as SSJ3 and defeats Hirudegarn, after Hirudegarn was injured. That's not "outside your weight class." Tapion's sword allowed Trunks to hit above his weight class, there is a drastic difference between the two.

>C13
hi pedro

>Super 13 shows Goku is still vulnerable after charging it and had to have everyone defend him.
correct. i'm not saying GT is infallible, far from it, but it's not totally far fetched to say Goku had increased durability due to all of the genki surrounding him. people go out of their way to say GT makes no sense when in truth it's not that bad outside of some of the scaling with the more minor characters
>paco really
what? S17 let himself die. go watch the fight again
>Daizenshuu 7 says that Vegetto strenght is way stronger than a SS3's and SS Gotenks is just SS3 tier, therefore SS Gogeta is as well
scan?
>Trunks and Goten aren't that far from Goku and Vegeta at all, Gotenks isn't that weak compared to Gogeta.
gogeta has no feats that you can even base this on. his only feat is destroying somebody's soul in one attack, which is a pretty good track record imo
i prefer vegetto myself, but to say vegetto's base > super gogeta is retarded because both are essentially featless

>persona 3
>erase everyone's memories of the events
not this shit again

Doesn't matter, obviously Cuckgito in base would be stronger than SS Gogeta. Goku and Vegeta were far more powerful when they fused into Cuckgito against Zamasu than when they fused into Gogeta against Janemba. If you're referring to base Cuckgito in the Buu arc, you're retarded.

Even GT has the power of Holding Back? Amazing.

characters have been suppressing themselves since the saiyan saga, probably even before that but i can't confirm as i haven't read kid goku era in like 10 years

>Is it just me or is DBZ abridged waaaay better than it should be?

>Like yeah you'd expect it to be funny but it's way smarter and more quotable than you'd think - I almost feel like if those guys were working in a big studio they'd be really successful.

>Sure you can say it's much easier to add/parody a show than create one from scratch, which is true. But all the call backs, endlessly quotable lines and a sense of characterisation thats so hilariously spot on, it's arguably way more consistent than the show - which again is the opposite to what you'd expect, as parodies often just make the characters crazy versions of their former selves for a cheap laugh.

>Even just little things like trunks suddenly saying 'crap baskets' after hearing gohan say it for so long, isn't just funny but adds a real sense of weight and plausibility to the world of the show.

>Anyone else think this is kinda crazy? Like If I feel the need to get a DB fix I usually end up opting for abridged over Kai and noticing extra little inside jokes or even have my attention drawn to details in the relationships of certain characters from the og show.

what

>i'm not saying GT is infallible, far from it, but it's not totally far fetched to say Goku had increased durability due to all of the genki surrounding him
It is inconsistent with how it has always worked and does not make sense. Energy being used to defend himself is energy not being used to charge the attack. This is inconsistent and you yourself just admitted it.

Goku in base is stronger than SSJ4 using this evidence, and using the evidence that the Spirit Bomb does not work that way.

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They could use Holding Back even in the Saiyan Saga? Amazing.