Is there historical proof of Jesus outside of bible and some suspious probably hoaxes?

Is there historical proof of Jesus outside of bible and some suspious probably hoaxes?

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Read a rumor about this and it's been bugging me:
Jesus Christ
JC
Julius Caesar
What if Julius was controlling the opposition, LARP as a Jew that was a super hero son of God as a ways to teach morality to the shifty Jews
Martyrdom is a way to gain immortality and if this is true he did it twice

THE JEW PILL:

Christianity is the power source of the Jew World Order and out of its perspective came Islam and Communism.

Juda-ism was created during the time of Christian Rome. There was no collective religion, just the 5 books of Moses and hundreds of city cults, messanic cults, and desert cults..

The 5 books of Moses were written during Greek occupation of Cannanite lands. So Levites (esoteric priesthood) used a bunch of legends from Zorastrianism and Babylonians, with Egyptian psuedo-history (because Egypt owned the land before Persia) and created the (((12 tribes))).

There was never an Israel and "Hebrew" is Aramiac for "nomads". This is why after 100+ years of archeology there is NOTHING left of the great wealthy kindom of Israel.

It's also why the Bible never mentions the European peoples until the time of Christ.

The entire Bible from Genesis to Jesus was stole from ZOROASTRIANISM (Persian empire). That's where Jews come from. Parsee = Pharisees.


That's the REAL story of the bible and the Jews.

No. Unfortunately Jesus is a myth. It is a hard pill to swallow. Once you understand you realize you need to make the best of what you have and continuously improve your life and experience as much peace love and joy possible. Or you can choose to fester. Life is good. Enjoy the creation. It was not made by any gods of religion. This book called "On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt" destroys Christianity.

That’s not a “rumor” — it’s a batshit revisionist history conspiracy theory cooked up by Joe Atwill and spread around by Ian Irwin.

Even dawkins has admitted he was wrong when he said that

Search your heart, you know the truth. Why deny it? Jesus Christ speaks to all of us, you just have to listen.

Original Hebrew is Yeshua and the most common form for early Christians would have been Yeshua or Iesus. Obviously written in their own script. You are looking for a connection in a third hand translation.

Ok, let’s examine the main arguments against historicity:

> There is no mention of a miracle-working Jesus in secular sources.

Scholars will tell you that the region was filled with itinerant preachers and miracle workers. There's no reason for one or the other to be recorded except that he was noticed by a someone who could write. Someone being a Roman bureaucrat, who probably couldn't tell any of these characters apart.

And there's good reason to believe that Jesus was also leading a political rebellion and that alone would be reason for him to be written out of history.

> The epistles, written earlier than the gospels, provide no evidence of a recent historical Jesus; all that can be taken from the epistles is that a Jesus Christ, son of God, lived in a heavenly realm, there died as a sacrifice for human sin, was raised by God and enthroned in heaven.

Well, this is just weak. What this tells us is that Jesus was the Elvis of his day and was instantly mythologized as soon as he died. This in fact speaks to the power and effectiveness of his ministry, seeing that he was deified even before the Gospels were written.

> The Jesus narrative is paralleled in Middle Eastern myths about dying and rising gods; Baal, Osiris, Attis, Adonis, and Dumuzi/Tammuz are named as examples, all of which survived into the Hellenistic and Roman periods and thereby influenced early Christianity.

Well, of course. He died. And rumors soon spread among his followers that he rose from the dead, and not-uncommon reaction to such a trauma. And anyone who studied the Mysteries in earnest can tell you with certainty that the Gospel stories and the Mystery dramas just aren't that similar to be paralleled every time Jesus is brought in question.

Dawkins is wrong. Jesus is a myth. This is the truth. Man created gods of the religions. The only attribute that they have right about God is that God create the universe. Deism and sometimes Pantheism rings for me.

Hearing voices is called SCHIZOPHRENIA.

Flavius Josephus who was a Roman historian in his book Antiquities of the Jews which was written in 92AD mentions Chirst

His real name was Caesar.

>Deism and sometimes Pantheism rings for me.
>I’m too weak-willed and impulsive to follow a proper spiritual discipline, but I still sorta want to hedge my bets for the Afterlife

Ok my dude, can’t say I’m surprised

Atwill's conspiratorial nonsense. Right up there with Phantom Time and Fomenko's crank theories in terms of credibility.

This is serious bargaining full of Christian Apologist misguidance. I've accepted the truth. Jesus Christ is a character of fiction spawned from the Jewish Tanakh beliefs of a messiah.

At least now I know who to reference, thanks

Isuse in my native tongue because Roman Catholicism has been practiced there since its inception.
Still, our history has been hidden from us by the ones who crafted religions to enslave our spirit so I don't mind alternative explanations or revisions

For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
Matthew 13:15

Have you ever prayed for something to be done and have it come to pass?
Have you ever witnessed a possession?
Or the possessed reject Christ?
Have you seen a demon?
Have you had weird experiences of synchronicity that are unexplainable?
Have you walked through fire(trials vs death) to come out unscathed?
Have you healed the sick?

Jesus exists. Jesus will open the door but it is your responsibility to walk through it.

We know the truth. Once the truth is accepted all the contradictions and inaccuracies that the Abrahamic Religions alone have created go away and all religions become shams. I have done a decade of research on this subject and final evidence needed for me to be sure Jesus is a myth was found in the book "On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt".

>"no u" with a meme macro as a response

ebig xD

The fool hath said in his heart: There is no God, They are corrupt, and are become abominable in their ways: there is none that doth good, no not one.
Psalm 14:1

>ebig xD
There is no afterlife user. Atwill is weak. Try Carrier. Yeshua Ben Yosef is folklore.

>more Facebook-tier memes
>Some pamphlet written by career atheist as a main "argument"
>meme flag

i wonder (((who))) could be behind this

The answer is a single wikipedia search away you dumb piece of shit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_for_the_historicity_of_Jesus#Non-Christian_sources

Holy fuck your guys are retarded. There are Christian and non Christian sources mentioning Jesus. There are still letters preserved from people who knew Jesus. In terms of historical accuracy there is more recorded evidence of him then most Kings and Emperors for the time period.

Is there historical proof of the holocaust?

Also ignore any typos I'm a dirty degenerate phone poster because god has abandoned us all.

>historical proof of Jesus
No. Jesus is Constantines appropriation of the Divus Julius (Julius Kristos) cult.

>There are Christian and non Christian sources mentioning Jesus.
hearsay is not evidence

>hearsay
>posts Phantom Time-tier crank theories not actually supported by anyone in academia as explanation

ok

> not "a new pope"

>ok
sorry, I seemed to have missed the part where you provided historical proof of your jesus.

and while you're at it, please look into when crucifixion as we know it was invented.

>There are Christian and non Christian sources mentioning Jesus.
Nope. There are NO sources mentioning him until decades after his supposed death. None. Not Christian, not pagan, NONE.
>There are still letters preserved from people who knew Jesus
Paul never met Jesus you dope.