Can't You MGTOW Faggots See You're Being Played?

Whether it's MGTOW or radical feminism, (((the communists))) are getting what they want: the end of the traditional family.

Being anti-family is basic to communist thought. Marx and Engles both saw the family as a propagator of capitalism and wished to destroy it. They said that capitalism began when the first man gave his son his inheritance. If there's no father and son, there is no reason to strive for a better future for the son.

Radical feminism, women turning away from men, is one way the family is destroyed, MGTOW is the exact same thing except with men turning away from women. I understand there are problems with the social dynamic between men and women, and am sympathetic to some points MGTOW brings up, but it will lead to the destruction of the family the same way radical feminism does. (((They))) will get their way.

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>Don't take yourself out of the gene pool, stupid men!

Gene pool cleaned up by removing damned fools.
Better woman selection for me.
Uh... why is this bad again?

well, converting girls and women to anti-feminism by proving that men are better for them than other women is important

It's hard to justify a family when the state will help the woman divorce rape you for any reason, including if she's "bored".
Sure say we are getting played. But I'd rather get played and have a Mercedes than get played and b in jail for not being able to pay for alimony and possibly child support for two months after hitting a rough spot and getting fired. or to a lesser degree, have to support someone that refuses to get a job and if I withhold the money I earn from them, it's "financial abuse" but if they do the same, it's their money".

I'm a selfish person who sees little to no gain in the tremendous efforts and risks required. Make it worth my while and I might date again.

>lack the social IQ to tell slags from honest women
>”fucking women!”

Maybe if you spent more time socializing and not on this shit site your love life might go somewhere.

the world needs fools

I am mgtow because no one ever talked to me during school. I have learned to be alone and have no desire to chase women

Autism isn't an excuse. I was homeschooled and I haven't seen a girl in 6 years and I'm not MGTOW.

good goy

it is an excuse, there is no reason for me to do something that I have no desire to do

>honest
>women
Pick one

fix women first then we will marry

Stop being selfish, and do it to keep the white race alive

... no. Fix incentives. I'm MGTOW, but I know women are not the problem. Nor chads. Welfare is.

why do you think I care about the white race? I just said no one ever talked to me. Why would I give a fuck about a race when the white race didn't give a fuck about me?

This, sadly.

What if MGTOW is propitiated by the gays? Think about it. They want to change the nuclear family, and the laws written down for a martial status is less severe when it comes to a straight couple.

>Welfare
no, the problem is that they can do anything, and when they feel bored they just divorce and profit from alimony
marriage is a win-win for women and a lose-lose for men

Again...

MGTOW is bad for young men. You need sex and female companionship or you will get weird.

After 45 or 50, men's sex drive declines enough where you just need a woman on the side once in a while. That's when you go MGTOW.

Oh, it's part of it, but it goes further. They can get pregnant from useless men and have the rest of them pay for their vaginal trophies.

They can get pregnant from one night flings and sue the guy for child support.

They can have not been touched by you, but your name got on some kind of paper, so you're a slave for the next 18 years.

And all these laws, including welfare, were put in place to help wymen at the cost of crashing our economy and driving men away because it's the only sensible thing to do.

you think some guy who constantly gets fucked over by women and can't understand dynamics between the sexes is going to be able to understand they're being played?

Isn't that (when men are young) typically when men are the most vulnerable to the type of shit that Mgtow guys try to prevent? (like false rape allegations, guys marry too young b/c they're inexperienced and end up in divorce court.

As you say, (((they))) are getting what they want either way. If I get married and have kids, I just suffer at the hands of family court, bleeding me dry of my wealth and income. If I stay single and only pump and dump, I get to enjoy life doing whatever the hell I want. MGTOW FTW.

MGTOW is the worst meme I ever fell for. Wasted a fucking decade nearly being a stoic badass (in my mind) now I'm 30 sitting her twiddling my thumbs and cock (with my own damn hands)

It has some good points. But is bad when followed to an extreme just like any ideology.
Don't be a slave to your cock or a woman's power. But don't kill off your genetic potential because you refuse to settle down.
Women aren't all bad. But they've got a lot of inherent bullshit you'll have to deal with.

because i feel better about ending my gene pool than for it to live being enslaved down the road. why would i let my offspring exist surrounded by coons, degenerates? survival boils down to selfishness too, and yet those people that cry white race expect you to fight a beast system while more than half of the same white race does nothing but fight against you (mostly women, liberals). and at the same time be demonized. lets say we do end up winning the fight, and white race # does go up miraculously. do you honestly think they will just become non degenerate? white race became what it was because sadly enough for some, christian values, i get the whole cuck meme which is very true on 80% of the churches & congregation, most women that are young simply are not worth saving, nor will they realize they are being saved, but will bite your hands in the progress.

b-but every woman just wants your money and to cheat on you

I think the issue that people misunderstand mgtow. Its not having to get married to be happy. And to that end I agree. I think the movement loses its credibility when people who arent actually mgtow, but rather incels,get associated with the group. The people who hate women because women hate them. Mgtows dont hate women. Its just not their means to happiness. Where its just another hobby or task to them.
I think mgtow is a good concept to warn younger men of the bad things women can and will do.

>muds outbreed me
>so i wont breed

nice self fulfilling prophecy there

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It's a common strategy to associate TFLs to any group to try and de-legitimize that group. And any group who criticize "social progress" / are not there for the benefit of women/minorities has to be de-legitimized.

It's almost as frequent (and now as ineffective) as calling one a racist, sexist, mysoginistic bigoted pedophile.

Hey you all pieces of shit, let me get this clear once and for all

MGTOW is not movement that has single objective ideology, MGTOW is way of life, which implies OWN WAY, it doesn't tell you what to DO, it give you only information and redpills about dangers of dating modern women and dating scene and in end you can choose your OWN WAY.

Its not ideology whit single objective, its just RED PILL movement, you can decide whether you still want to date and get married or not.
I will present to you information that women who consume modern culture, this or that are more likely to do this or that...etc you can choose weather you still like to engage into relationship or something with that woman.

So I repeat its Man going their OWN WAY.

This.
My view on MGTOW isn't "abstain from women", it's "don't let women ingrain themselves into your life so much that they can control your possessions/actions/freedoms".
You are perfectly capable of making sacrifices for a relationship as long as it's your choice to do so.
MGTOW is about control over your own life.

>genetic potential
lmao

Maybe MGTOW are being played in the grand scheme of things, but it's better than getting playing by some roastie losing all your money and free time and house and kids and ......

how about not behaving like a retard and getting politics into relationships?

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You're retarded.
Radfem are angry lesbians, they are not "turning away from men", men turned away from them. That's why they became lesbos.

As long as women have rights in western societies, men will go mgtow, because if women aren't beaten into submission they will fuck you up.

From a simple economic mind, the con outweights the pros when it comes to creating a familly, con being:
On the mid run you get castrated
In case of divorce, lose half your shit for no reason + alimony + child support
You might not be the father of your child
You might end up raising the child of her former boyfriend

Also:
Once they pass their mid 20's, women Sexual Market Value (SMV) tends to fall off a cliff. At age 30-33, when they are no longer physically desirable, but bitchy and controlling, they try to ensnare a provider. Don't be that guy.
Why bother trying to have a relationship with a cunt that has been railed by hundreds of cocks when you can just pounce from one young hottie to another, specially when they're 18-25 and willing to fuck litterally anything that looks like a grown men with a career?
Use them as the fucktoys they are. They are not worthy companions, and in the end, if you want loyalty, get a dog.

Of fuck, I've been caught.
Dumbass.

Only weak men care if other men do or do not go MGTOW. Think for yourself.

Nietzsche never had kids and did more for the white race than any of you. Same with Thoreau.

Tesla.

Good goyim! White women want BBC anyway.

What would constitute a proof, faggit?

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no one is talking to you frog. be humble sit down

>The boogieman will win

I dont give a fuck because Im not losing. Fuck your traditional family.

>calls me frog
Is that the legendary 56% that is talking to me?

It's quite simple guys. I used to be MGTOW after a particularly rough relationship. Don't be a faggot. Got ridiculously in shape. Abstained from degeneracy. Stopped watching porn. Got my shit together. Next thing you know women will literally mold themselves to match your personality, like they do for me. If you look like a God and act like one, roasties will turn their lives around just so you don't look at them with that look of "you are not even worthy to look at" look.

MGTOW is the winning move.

Your people got themselves into this position. It's not your responsibility to get them out. Enjoy the decline, friends.

nice shit meme aristocrat ass baby. I changed my order.stand up for once

MGTOW, or feminism for weak-minded men whose little hearts have been hurt by ''evil women''.

The actual state of the White Man. In a few decades, the average westerner will be even more pathetic that the average jap.

Find God. This selfish mindset will not end well for you.

>Im MGTOW because I dont want a traditional family
>You are being played! If you go MGTOW you wont have a traditional family!

No shit you retard.

Youre wrong

Except there's a tiny chance of that actually happening.

time.com/4575495/divorce-rate-nearly-40-year-low/
>Divorce Rate in U.S. Drops to Nearly 40-Year Low

All the high divorce rates that get passed around are usually high because

- they include divorces from the 60 & 70s after the (((sexual revolution))) when there was a massive surge of divorcees because of recent changes in legislation
- they include multiple-time divorcees, so people who have unstable relationships and get divorced 4-5 times will be equivalent to 5 divorces
- they include younger people (think someone who gets married at 18 years old) who have a much higher chance of divorce

Once you narrow it down to people who actually wait to find the right person and get married at 25+ years old, it's much lower than that.

Everything in life involves risks, that doesn't justify throwing away your own bloodline because of something that hasn't even happened yet. Can you imagine if everyone thought like you? Our whole species and culture would die off

Feminism and MGTOW are the two sides of the same semitic coin.

>don't have kids
>marriage or having a family are bad
>men/women are bad and are oppressing me
>I am a strong independent man/woman who don't need no man/woman

Independence has long been something a lot of men value, making a movement out of it goes against the whole point since it reeks of attention-seeking, which isn't independence or "going your own way". You're not making any profound statement, you're just refusing to get into a long-term relationship, which takes no effort at all and anyone can do it.

> MGTOW, or feminism for weak-minded men whose little hearts have been hurt by ''evil women''.

So generic its flavorless.

>Radfem are angry lesbians, they are not "turning away from men", men turned away from them. That's why they became lesbos.
>MGTOW are angry homos, they are not '"turning away from women", women turned away from them. That's they became MGTOW

Two sides of the same coin. Also, no coincidence that MGTOW also push "blacked"-tier propaganda.

MGTOW and Feminism are the same because they are anti-traditionalism. That means that christianity and Islam are the same because they are traditional, it also means that planet venus and feminism are the same because they are anti-traditional, also white men and black men are the same if they are traditional. Why are you against your religion and your race you black muslim apostate?

I apologize

Why not?
If youre going to just spout off memes about hell, youre just plain old gullible.
Why should I not be selfish? Its my life right?

Dont bother fighting it user. White people nowadays are pretty well glued into capitalism and consumerism that dollar signs and monetary success is more important then organizing and fighting for protecting their cultures. Us whiteys for the most part dont take sacrifices and the hard routes in life to gain priceless things as old as time. While white folks are following bitcoin religiously or throwing money at hipster stores pajeet pedro and chink are having multiple children, buying up real estate, or gaining government influence. White folks went from physically removing muslims from europe 600 some years ago to getting excited over virtual fapping experiences.

Christianity and Islam have vastly different specifics and belief systems, although they have some similar Abrahamic roots. I'm not a Christian so I don't even know why you're bringing that up.

The outcome and principles behind MGTOW and feminism are exactly the same. In fact MGTOW empowers feminism. MGTOW isn't treating anything, they actively want to take themselves OUT of the system. They're literally telling men to give up and not do anything and be replaceds, while giving feminists and women more institutional power because they would rather "go their own way" than do anything productive.

MGTOW want to destroy marriage. Feminists also do.

MGTOW lower birth rates and don't care about the importance of the family unit as a cornerstone of society. Feminists also do.

MGTOW encourages men to "go their own way" to be "free from the patriarchal society". Feminists encourage women to "go their own way" to be "free from the gynocentric society".

Feminism claims to "liberate women". MGTOW also claims to "liberate men".

> Everything in life involves risks
Yup, there's things like ratio and potential rewards / consequences, tho.

> that doesn't justify throwing away your own bloodline
Why would you assume your bloodline has value? Why would I sacrifice the enjoyment of my own life for animalistic behaviors?

> Can you imagine if everyone thought like you? Our whole species and culture would die off
If everyone thought like me, incentives that would be put in place would favor pro-creation and whole families.

> Feminism and MGTOW are the two sides of the same semitic coin.
> don't have kids
MGTOWs are for going to another country and hire women to bear your children.

> marriage or having a family are bad
No. The legal environment bending you over and rubbing its cock on your asshole for wanting one is bad.

> women are bad and are oppressing me
Women are not oppressing me. The state is.

> I am a strong independent man/woman who don't need no man/woman
I am a man who manage to get all his need fulfilled with porn, sex dolls and other men intellect.

With every year USA is becoming less and less white. Spics still have stable families you know. Divorces among Whites are as high as ever.

you still seem to think you can save it. they know it can't. they'll just watch it fail.

your job is to convince them it can be saved, and how.

IT'S OKAY TO BE WHITE

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I can go in detail about feminism and mgtow and generalize christianity and islam the same way you go in detail about christianity and islam and generalize feminism and mgtow. Save your life stories and catch the point you autistic retard.

> MGTOW want to destroy marriage. Feminists also do.
MGTOW want to destroy alimony, child support and the family court. Marriage is fine by itself.

> MGTOW lower birth rates
Actually, no. As a single man can impregnate dozens of women (and some do), the effect of less than 5% of men checking out can't really be felt on natality.

> and don't care about the importance of the family unit as a cornerstone of society.
They do, and they won't put children into this world if they can't be assured to remain in their lives.

> MGTOW encourages men to "go their own way" to be "free from the gynocentric society".
You got those inverted. Actually the point you're the closest to. Let's say you're right. What's wrong with going Galt?

> MGTOW also claims to "liberate men"
No. We claim to prevent costly mistakes for men. We can't liberate them once they're set for the divorce-rape. We can only tell them it'll get better in about two decades.

Mgtows and feminists are not the same, not even close. They are just both as much enemies to traditionalism.

And still, it's what it is. I don't blame you. You live in a country where adult men have voted for a snowboard 28 year old teacher as a president.

Here's a you, nicely put. I'd rather be single, childless and have money to spend than to have to make alimony payment and live in a shitty apartment with pictures of my kid I can't visit.

I'm mgtow cause I'm tired of their bullshit.

>one faked a pregnancy to me and my family for attention
>another wrecked my car drunk and then sued me for getting hurt in it (she yanked my wheel from the passenger seat)
>cost me almost 20k in court fees and lawyers to clear that
>another accused me of revenge porn cause some random person looked like her
>another threw my bedstand pistol into the trash cause she decided I didn't need it anymore
>another took my card and "bought" me a new tv cause mine wasn't big enough

Women are dumb. Fuck relationships. Just fuck them and leave them.

>Why would you assume your bloodline has value? Why would I sacrifice the enjoyment of my own life for animalistic behaviors?

Because it's literally your main biological purpose in life. Everything else is peripheral.

When you reach your 40s, you start slowly losing your friends, getting out of shape, and you can't get laid as easily anymore (if you even get laid and you're not just using your personal romantic/sexual failings to justify not having kids), you become old and decrepit with only your monthly salary, materialism and collapsing society to look forward to, you'll start wondering "what am I leaving behind for this world?", "what's my legacy?", "why am I even alive?". Then you'll probably become depressed and aimless and kill yourself.

There's also something to be said about duty to family and nation. What would your ancestors think of you after having lived and continued their bloodline for thousands of years, through wars and famine only for it to end because you'd rather play vidya, jack off and complain about women?

>If everyone thought like me, incentives that would be put in place would favor pro-creation and whole families.
But it's never gonna happen. The only thing that's gonna happen is that the state will bring in people who actually want to fuck and have kids. If we lived in an ideal world, it would work but we don't.

>The legal environment bending you over and rubbing its cock on your asshole for wanting one is bad.
Feminists say the same thing, and used this exact argument for no-fault divorce and the current legal system you hate.

>Women are not oppressing me. The state is.
But a lot of MGTOW is about playing into victim mentality to justify the whole thing, the same way feminism does.

>I am a man who manage to get all his need fulfilled with porn, sex dolls and other men intellect.
Will you feel the same way in 20 years? Also, if that's the case why would you need a movement or a "brand" to legitimize the whole thing?

Modern women are nothing but vapid fucktoys, and that's how I will continue to treat them.

Still, it's not the wahmen. It's the laws set in place. And the laws set in place are for the pleasure of those who vote for a snowboard 28 year old teacher as a prime minister.

Notice how their advices are always self serving and they really don't care about you. Sorry user, the world doesn't give a shit about us and expects us to lay down on the train track for them. When they got what they want they'll kick us to the curb and come back when they need to use us again.
Things were spelled out to us pretty obviously. Remember, the people who actually want you to be happy will respect your decision because they understand you lived a different life than them and it's not in their place to judge you or try to nudge you. Any reasonable person without an agenda would tell you "hey man, you do you, just remember if you do feel like hanging out or going out, I'll be around", not "NO YOU HAVE TO GO OUT, YOU HAVE TO FULFILL X Y Z!"
They will never take away our dignity, I'll take it with me to my grave.

Whites still have the most stable families along with Asians in the US. Cultural marxism affects everyone, and fertility rates have declined for pretty much every group other than Muslims.

I hate MGTOW with a passion, but I hate breedcucks too. What do, /pol?

masons are vagina worshippers. kikes too. bannon was a commie. melania's family. use a turkey baster. avoid diseases and propagating original sin

I dont trust someone who tells you what you have to do in a world where you cant kill him for it. Its like finally! his circumstances are easy enough to match his courage, and faith in his words, to do so.

>masons are vagina worshippers. kikes too.
This was confirmed that boy are feminine ideologies. But where did you get that Bannon was a Commie?

> Because it's literally your main biological purpose in life. Everything else is peripheral.
Hey, look, I've got an IQ over 80 and can choose my own goals and desires in life!

> When you reach your 40s, you start slowly losing your friends...
Who are MGTOW (some officiously)

> getting out of shape
Not a prerequisite for most of my hobbies, past-times, and jobs.

> you become old and decrepit with only your monthly salary
But hey, I get to spend it how I please.

> materialism and collapsing society to look forward to
And providing ever more for my desires.

> Then you'll probably become depressed and aimless and kill yourself.
I compare my life with some of my friends' who aren't MGTOW, and they're the ones depressed and aimless.

> If everyone thought like me
> But it's never gonna happen.
Then you admit it's a silly point to have brought up in the first place?

> Feminists say the same thing, and used this exact argument for no-fault divorce and the current legal system you hate.
What?

> But a lot of MGTOW is about playing into victim mentality to justify the whole thing
Sure, a lot of MGTOW were hurt. And sometimes, you need to be badly hurt to finally be willing to face reality. Besides, "If you put your hand in the meat-grinder, you might get hurt" is not "Meat-Grinders are oppressing us and must be destroyed".

> Will you feel the same way in 20 years?
What kind of answer do you expect here? If in 20 years, we reach the socio-economic collapse and alimony/child support are no longer state-enforced, you bet I'll keep an eye open for a wife.

> Also, if that's the case why would you need a movement or a "brand" to legitimize the whole thing?
I don't. It's just easier to spread the message (and attack us) this way. Vast majority of people who embraces MGTOW ideals never heard of the acronym. And that's alright.

the leaf of truth

I believe you, user, But Jesus Christ, man. That's either some bad luck, or you have shit taste in women. Refer to the Crazy/Hot scale. If your girls are like 10/10, you're doing it wrong. You want like a solid 7.5-8 with some humility. This will prevent all of that nonsense you're dealing with.

Alternatively, you could do what I did. I got an East German waifu who doesn't come with a shit ton of baggage, and doesn't have her head filled with white-wedding fairytales like American chicks.

>MGTOW want to destroy alimony, child support and the family court. Marriage is fine by itself.

Isn't that MRAs and traditionalists? MGTOW just want to "go their own way" and not do anything. It's more of an outlet to vent, and for those who haven't been married yet, to justify selfishness, greed and inability to get into a stable relationship.

>As a single man can impregnate dozens of women (and some do), the effect of less than 5% of men checking out can't really be felt on natality.
Then you get kids born to single mothers who can't be raised properly or will be raised by the state. And the main thing is that MGTOWs try to target INTP/INTJ type people. Generally smart introverted people who have a valuable perspective and can think outside the box so they'll die out and the only the dumb and average will keep reproducing. It's no coincidence that MGTOW target "redpill" boards and communities like Sup Forums. They don't want people who are less affected by school/media indoctrination and social pressure to reproduce.

>They do, and they won't put children into this world if they can't be assured to remain in their lives.
That has literally never happened. There have always been risks. Not too long ago, it wasn't uncommon for people to pop out 6-12 kids and for 1/4 of them to die. before they reach adulthood. Life has always been about taking risks and dealing with the cards you're dealt.

>What's wrong with going Galt?
It's basically giving up and admitting that you lost, the sign of coward. If you're gonna do that, at least don't try to make it a "movement" or a pride symbol.

>We can't liberate them once they're set for the divorce-rape.
You try to liberate them from the duty of becoming a man, having a family, getting married, not being a manchild all their lives, defending their country... Liberalism is all about lowering standards for everyone: men and women because they don't want to make any effort but they also don't want feel like losers.

>Whether it's MGTOW or radical feminism, (((the communists))) are getting what they want: the end of the traditional family.

The subject of MGTOW is too complicated to understand by a thot brainlet like yourself. The differences between the sexes, sexual dynamic and so on.

MGTOW doesn't wish for the destruction of the family even though it contributes to it. MGTOW is a reaction to the current state of affairs of how marriage and females primacy are in the West. Any man who has seen the statistics or has spoken to a father, an uncle or nephew knows that to marry a female in the West in any of the first world countries is a massive gamble of your resources and time. And you'd be a fucking idiot to gamble your money knowing there is a 97% chance of losing it all.

Not only are things so far fucked beyond your comprehension, but the beta men that kept society running as worker drones are getting by the day more and more aggressive, more knowledgeable about female nature and will not submit to a provider role.

There is way more I can type but I won't bother. Solve this problem by making women submissive again, take away their dumb rights created by weak men, and maybe see society, white society soar again. Maybe, it's not looking too good these days.

Hi Goy's, I mean Wizards, hows everything?

I dont need to justify anything to you shithead. Literally the only "argument" in this post from anti-mgtows is "you havent gotten my permission to go MGTOW". Come and stop me you faggots.

It’s your poor taste, lmao.

>And you'd be a fucking idiot to gamble your money knowing there is a 97% chance of losing it all.
>97% chance
OK that's some serious fucking [citation needed] right there

>Being anti-family is basic to communist thought
That does not matter as that is irrelevant to my mission, living life how i want too is more important then a family.

I am living life for my mission and how i fucking want to not how you and the tradcucks demand i live.
>what am I leaving behind for this world?"
If i am still alive at 40 then it will be all my works that i have created in my life.
>"what's my legacy?
It will already be laid out by then.
>What would your ancestors think of you after having lived and continued their bloodline for thousands of years,
The difference is regardless of time my ancestors generally had control over their cunts unlike men today. If you had a problem with a cunt the solution was to beat her but that is illegal now thereby their knowledge is dead in the past (not applicable in some senses).
>Will you feel the same way in 20 years?
If i am still alive i will be at my peak in 20 years.

>this triggers the /mgtow/

youtube.com/watch?v=mJgDfUIoyNE

> Isn't that MRAs and traditionalists?
They fight a losing battle, we go Galt (pretty much à la Atlas Shrugged)

> Then you get kids born to single mothers who can't be raised properly or will be raised by the state.
Incentives in place will make sure it'll happen either way.

> And the main thing is that MGTOWs try to target INTP/INTJ type people. Generally smart introverted people who have a valuable perspective and can think outside the box so they'll die out and the only the dumb and average will keep reproducing.
Most often than not, we're those types, and we're happier for it. So yeah, we target those people first as they're the one with the most to gain from it.

> here have always been risks. Not too long ago, it wasn't uncommon for people to pop out 6-12 kids and for 1/4 of them to die.
That means you still get to raise 3/4th of your children. I'd take that deal.

> [Going Galt] is basically giving up and admitting that you lost, the sign of coward. If you're gonna do that, at least don't try to make it a "movement" or a pride symbol.
Close. It's recognizing you are not THE primary factor in you winning or not. And refusing the consequences for losing along with any positive output for winning.

It's like the lottery, except you get the ticket labeled "loser" if you don't play instead of if you lose, and you get anal raped if you actually lose. Label me a loser all you want.

> You try to liberate them from the duty of becoming a man, having a family, getting married, not being a manchild all their lives, defending their country...
I reject your claim on their duty. Make it worth their while or leave them alone.

>That does not matter as that is irrelevant to my mission, living life how i want too is more important then a family.
And how do you want to live your life, big guy? Buying consumerist products and consuming corporate entertainment?

>imagine convincing all the faggots on /fit/ that MGTOW was the way to go and watch them all lose their motivation to workout