>>156552422

I have tried to invite the lefties whinging on there that they are being censored to come here to discuss this because they are crying censorship.
Of course they ignore the bajillion news outlets which NO right wing comments are allowed.
Doubt they will come, they don't want freedom of speech or a discussion, they just want to whinge about Trump and the usual rhetoric.

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People I know are actually angry and upset. Sad Dick Chunts twitter is being spammed by people hating on him for his gloating.

Trump needs to stop being cowardly though, if there are protests, there would be 4 times as many people there to support him and drown out the left wing filth.

But what can you do?

Fuck off Vlad.

So Marxist just means "things I don't like" now?

niggers tongue my anus

there may be 4 times as many to support him but you know who the media put their cameras on and the narrative they will deliver.

No

Why not vote for Corbyn
>pro-brexit
>pro-working class
>anti-((them))
>pro-freedom
>would unintentionally decrease immigration and foreign students
>would make utilities owned by the british public
>ban religious schools

>Hurr he said bad things about Trump! He should be locked up!
Surely Khan is free to say what the fuck he wants about Trump and Brexit though?

I thought it was the left that hated free speech?

Well going by the list of things on the previous image, it does.

I'm not saying she couldn't possibly be Marxist, I'm saying that a list of things you don't like, does not necessarily a Marxist, make.

>pro-Muslim
>pro-IRA
>pro-EU (don't be fooled)
>pro-Establishment
>communist
>another phoney paedophile defender playing a character

Oh and
>pro-working class
absolutely fucking not, not in the least, he uses students with magic money tree promises of free tuition's and wiping their debt, thats it.

>there would be 4 times as many people there to support him and drown out the left wing filth.
This, I'd most certainly be cheering for Trump, as would pretty much everyone I know.

He always implies his opinion is the blanket beliefs of the rest of the UK, that is NOT ok.
Also where is the platform for the pro-Trump supporters? The media are obsessed with insulting Donald Trump and helping damage relations.
Treason May has made it clear she cucks for Khan too, nobody is asking the silent majority because once again fuck the working class.

Pro Shitskin

and it would go as ignored as this
youtube.com/watch?v=nAQ7NkGiLWE
Which didn't make the news because no counter-protest was arranged to cause problems for the media to report "far right EDL BNP Nazi thugs clash with anti-fascists and police"

but get 30 knobheads in pussyhats waving anti-Trump placards and the cameras are all over them with reports of "BRITAIN STANDS AGAINST TRUMP" and shit like that.

So what? He's perfectly free to do so under the blanket of free speech, is he not?

Why do you hate free speech, user? I bet you don't care when Daddy Trump does it.

so free speech is the Mayor of London having his critics silenced and censored while he claims to speak on behalf of the UK?
you have a very odd understanding of what freedom of speech is.

So when does it change to literally hate crime? When Donald Trump does it?

I'm glad Trumps not coming, America can keep it's glorified e-celeb/tv star president bullshit on their own lands.

If Khan wants to insult Trump, he's perfectly allowed to. And
>b-but whataboutery
Is irrelevant. He's broken no laws. You're talking to me as though I'm some great supporter of Khan. I'm not, I think he's a fucking moron who is terrible for the City of London. That doesn't mean that I think he shouldn't be allowed freedom of speech because what he says might trigger Trumpfags.

Again, please explain why you hate free speech.

Fight back, Britain. Don't go quietly.

I've not argued that it does. Trump can say whatever the fuck he likes, as can Khan. You can't support free speech when you like what is being said, but try to curb it when you don't, no matter how you try to square that circle with whataboutary.

Trump isn't being cowardly, he does everything for a reason. Look at how he handles our media and politicians; I guarantee this shitskin is nothing to Trump.
Most likely Trump will let the British burn for a little before offering them a deal and an apology by the shitskin.

At the same time you cannot say "free speech" when there are definite attacks on a person or personality for what he said, and dismiss any counterattack against those as "going against free speech"

You're a shitlord who wont read

>Be pro-Trump
>Get censored
>Arrested
>gagging orders
>banned from protests
>banned from hanging around like minded people
>police harassment
>media smear campaigns

>Be Mayor of London
>Be anti-Trump Mudshit
>"He speaks on behalf of Britain"

do you not see what is going on? you can't be that retarded surely?!

First of all, the UK does not actually have freedom of speech. Many things in the UK are illegal to say.

Secondly, I think the issue people have isn't him insulting Trump, it's him acting like the king of the UK. He has no power or authority to get involved in international politics. This is not his job and no one has elected him to do this. He is purposefully trying to ruin the relationship between the UK and US at a time when the UK needs strong international relationships more than ever.
This could be construed as treason, which is indeed a crime.

If you think that curtailing peoples freedom of speech like that is wrong, why are you trying to do it to someone else?

Surely you can't be so retarded to think that you can support free speech while actively supporting someone else's being taken away?

Right, now tell me what he's said that is illegal. He's allowed to say all of the things he has said on Trump and on Brexit.

Screeching about it because you don't like it doesn't change the fact that he's done nothing illegal. If you support the concept of free speech, you wouldn't support Khan's being curtailed here.

Needs to happen EVERY TIME he opens his mouth.

BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT AS FUCKING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC BUT THE MAYOR OF FUCKING LONDON CLAIMS HE SPEAKS FOR ME BECAUSE I AREN'T ALLOWED A VOICE!!!!!

Christ you're thick as pig shit.
pic related, what you deserve you cock.

It's not about the specific words he has said, but how he is acting in general. He is trying to supersede the government. He has no right to demand Trump stay out of the UK, nor does he speak for Britain (as he was not elected to do this).

Although, he did mention something about there being protests and riots if Trump did come to the UK. This thinly veiled threat could be considered incitement, which is a crime in the UK.

I think he’s more so pointing out the dipshittery, double standard, and absolute subjectivity of British rules on spoken word.

A lot of people accuse Americans of being crazy but Europe is pretty koo-koo- for Cocoa Puffs with their laws that coddle raping terrorists but imprison concerned patriots. And you can say nothing about it for fear of being arrested by a failed police system.

Not allowed to do what? Talk about Trump or Brexit?

If you support the idea of free speech, then you support Khan being able to say what he has. He hasn't said anything illegal about Trump or Brexit. Look past your hatred for him, and your hatred of Mudslimes and you'll see that.

Right, but he's said nothing illegal. If you support free speech, you don't support people trying to stop someone from saying something they're at liberty to say.

Look, you can say "but what about the wider picture" til the cows come home. I'd likely agree with the vast majority of what you've got to say, but how Khan is acting when he makes these bullshit statements is not illegal. Screeching because you don't like it is childish as fuck.

>I am fine with Sadiq Khan speaking on my behalf
>I am fine with the opposing voice being censored

One rule for one and another rule for them.
Clear enough yet? Or are you still too brain damaged to get it?

He can say what he wants, but we cant.
He can do it from his position and nobody can butt in with "erm you don't speak on behalf of me mate!"
Still not getting it?

Maybe this will clear it up.
youtube.com/watch?v=kLUktJbp2Ug

Except inciting riots. That is actually a crime.

your piss bucket country would throw a regular bloke in jail if he said the same in regards to Muslims (one of the most prolific terror organizations on planet earth) for “islamophobia”, but it’s totes cool when the mayor (PBUH) says it.

DEATH TO ALL MUSLIMS

Londonistan is Bizarro World.

>I don't like peoples freedom of speech being curtailed
>I think Khan's freedom of speech should be curtailed

One rule for them and another for you.
Clear enough yet? Or are you still too brain damaged to get it?

You should be able to say what you want
He shouldn't and you should be able to openly say he shouldn't because you're so buttblasted that he said mean things about Trump and Brexit

If you say that trying to stop someones freedom of speech is ok, then you don't support freedom of speech. That's a fact. You can't argue around that by saying "but what about this?" If you try to stop freedom of speech, you clearly don't support it.

Once more with feeling: Why do you hate freedom of speech?

and if you supported freedom of speech you would see its a one way fucking street you daft cunt

Amber Rudd wants people who listen to opposing views from the left to face the same treatment as people who watch ISIS recruitment propaganda and bomb making material, you're happy with that too I assume?
>well she's just using freedom of speech what could go wrong
brilliant logic.

that's too much. I really hate Islam but that's too much.
Piss on Quran all you want, put Bacon on mosque steps but you should at least leave a dead body alone.

No, you are saying its fine for Khan to have that privilege and not us.
That's the difference between you and I.
He says it, the media frames it, the whole government cucks to it, any opposing views are censored and silenced.
What is the result?
>Trump cancels Britain visit
You are happy for that propaganda and single view to be propagated, I aren't.
Why don't you open your eyes and ears, ask Britain First if they think they have freedom of speech, ask Tommy Robinson, ask right wing comedians, ask Katie Hopkins, ask anybody who isn't a purple haired lip ringed student waving a fuck Trump signs basically if they feel they have freedom of speech.
I KNOW we don't, so stop trying to defend this biased system as somehow being fair, it is NOT!

>but Khan is just using freedom of speech
Nah, he is just speaking on behalf of the censored without consequence and its damaging our country and the very freedoms my grandfather fought for you fucking gloit.

So because it's a "one way street" that means that one should try and remove freedom of speech the other way? That somehow means you aren't in anyway opposed to free speech, despite the fact that you're actively calling for it to be curtailed?

Look, just face it. You support the removal of peoples freedom of speech when they say things you don't like. Just admit that you don't like freedom of speech.

This is all eerily reminiscent of me passing through customs at Heathrow. Some chick in a hijjab checking if I'm a bona fide tourist when my last name is English.

Funny to turn up in the country my ancestors are from and be treated like I'm 'foreign' by someone whose link to the country is, at best, less than 100 years.

Likewise, seeing some Pakistani talking about the 'values' of London is lulz worthy. I'm more English than he is and I've only visited the country for a week in my lifetime.

except at no point have I said that you thick Muslim cock sucking cunt

No I'm not. I'm saying that if you support free speech, then you support his right as well. If you want to take his away in a tit for tat fashion, then fine. But if you do, you can't possibly support free speech because you're taking someones away. It's not a difficult concept.

fyeHGvN+ how much do they pay you?

and what do you know about them?

Yes you have, because you're supporting these people who called for Khan to be locked up for what he said you fucking moron. Again, locked up FOR WHAT HE SAID.

Christ alive.

>you support his right as well

Nup. Free speech requires reciprocity. Seeing as the other side restricts speech the very second they gain power, there's no point in adhering to it. It's a game you'll always lose.

You don't punish ordinary people for thought crime, but you'd better punish the other side for it. The people demanding 'free speech' at Berkeley back in the day are now the core component of prosecuting people for thought crime.

kek, you have a Mayor conducting foreign policy.
How the fuck is this not a problem for a country like the UK?

So you support curtailing free speech in certain circumstances. Ergo, you don't support free speech. Just admit that you don't, my man. Don't be such a pussy and be proud of your beliefs.

You shouldn't have to hide what you think behind twisted "logic". You feel that free speech should be able to be impeded, therefore you don't support it. It's fine.

No you are VERY well aware that Sadiq Khan is claiming to speak on behalf of the gagged.
You want Sadiq Khan to do so.
You don't care that he does so.
You don't care that the entire system is designed to hoist Khan up as the voice of Britain.
You think its freedom of speech while I have given you plenty of examples how its only freedom of speech for them and censorship for the rest of us.

The only voice being heard is that of Sadiq Khans opinion.
Therefore the perceived opinion of the majority of Britain is that we are all anti-Trump.

If you need further proof of this biased broken bullshittery then look no further than the fact the media have non-stop tried to push the idea that everybody wants a second referendum on the EU and now it looks very very likely it will go that way.
If you are happy for this biased system then good for you, I aren't.
It is corrupt and unjust.

>there is no double standards
Fuck off cunt. Khan is a deplorable faggot. London is a shithole

>Ergo, you don't support free speech

Yep. Concepts like free speech only work when everyone adheres to them. One side of politics will not adhere to it. That just means that only that side of politics has 'free speech'. I don't support 'free speech' for just one ideological group, and it doesn't work any other way. Accordingly I just dismiss the concept outright.

excellent posts. you are a true patriot who loves his people.

Hey, do you think the vast majority is pro-Trump or anti-Trump given what our media and government say?
Try to leave out what you see on Sup Forums and the fact you are more clued up, what would you assume based on what is coming over from our shores and what Americans are lead to believe is the vast majority stance on Trump?

A Trip to the Moon. I read about it when I was learning a bit the history of film.

I want everyone to have free speech
I believe that free speech should never be curtailed
That includes people I disagree with and people I despise,

It's not hard, mate.

your tactics don't work here kid.

What tactics? Logic?

Fuck off Achmed you shill.

>It's not hard, mate.

It's actually very easy, right up until someone gets power and doesn't like what you're saying. Then you suddenly don't have the comforts that they themselves had when they were in opposition.

It just assumes that everyone will play fairly. They won't.

Great, but until we get some balance then we don't have that, not with the government, media, police, justice system or social media.
So why should I sit quietly while Khan 'speaks on behalf of Britain' and not get annoyed at that?
It isn't freedom of speech, its called biased propaganda.
pic related, how the silent majority mean nothing if you control the media, government and justice system from the top down.

rhetoric. always more rhetoric

So the rumors that Sadiq Khan yesterday proclaimed himself as king of England are true.

The Fabian society is literally a cult of Bolshevik spooks set on establishing a Communist state via subverting democracy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Fabian_Society

The fact that these people are actually allowed to operate when their STATED goal is to subvert democracy and implement a totalitarian communist state is a disgrace.

>Frida bracelet.

They sell it for 5 bucks in every corner of south america.

>durrr why are Muslim grooming gangs still happening

she probably paid a couple of million for it, she's flush with our money like that.

youtube.com/watch?v=bU9-XmQkioc

youtube.com/watch?v=e9XnNhKDPhE

the moderate mayor of Riyadh welcomes Trump and cracks down on extremism.

The mayor of London does the opposite..

Really makes you think. really renders active my singular almond

It feels like our establishment is gambling on Trump being dethroned, and as such is giving him short shrift at a time when we should be looking to maximise our relationship for a good trade deal, instead of spitting in the face of a man with a big ego who has said previously that we'd be at the front of the queue for a deal, while Obama said we'd be at the back of the queue.

We really seem to be gambliong big and backing the wrong horse.

I hope May and Sadickhead are replaced soon for people less cucky.

forgot to remove SAGE from the name field, this thread is not sage

the UK is implicated in the fisa 702 and fusion scandals in a bad way. I mean really bad.

I mean it is a bad as it can get we just don't know how bad yet.

she's got to be the weakest PM ever, by a long way too.

>Be Cryptocommunist bourgeoisie
>Make your Coat of Arms a literal Wolf in Sheeps clothing
>Your average normie still assumes you're harmless because they're actually that stupid and complacent

Fuck the future, we've been living in Idiocracy for a hundred years already. The Fabians don't even try to hide the fact that they're tinpot tyrants, people just assume they aren't because they're retards.

I wonder how her colleagues approved her as PM role?

...

Nope, your establishment is scared shitless because mudslimes you imported will take over violently when establishment stops sucking their cocks. By pandering your establisment tries to remain relevant while mudslimes take over not-so-violently.
UK is effectively a mudslime country and Sadiq yesterday proclaimed himself as de facto king.

What will you do about it?

I hope it's obvious to the British that they fought the wrong side.

>What will you do about it?
get arrested and censored for trying to stop it then get murdered by Jihadis in prison.
which has been my point I was making over several posts

yeah I think muslims might be up to about 3% of the pop, almost there

Trump isn't going anywhere for another 3 years. Potentially 7.
I wish he'd send a carrier group through the Thames and remind that paki piece of shit and the woman their place in the world.

those were the last words of one of my grandfathers on the matter of the war and this was before it got as bad as it is now.
"why did my generation put our lives on the line to stop a foreign invasion? we got one anyway, we should have sided with Hitler, at least we would only have white faces and dual citizenship with Germany".

This is sickening. Poor kids.

its probably best he doesn't come here, Mi5 will just give Jihadis a means to kill him.

Maybe you are doing something in the wrong way? Maybe you are too retarded as a nation to take your country back? Do you deserve a country then?

I've not heard of those and don't understand the connection

It's worse than these articles can ever portray

youtube.com/watch?v=CEZH2rmk11c

Russell Brand's a Fabian, he uses his Trews youtube page to propagate for them

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/156455745/

theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/11/the-doj-and-fbi-worked-with-fusion-gps-on-operation-trump/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The ENTIRE SYSTEM of FISA-702 surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign. The DOJ and FBI used the FISA Court to gain access to Trump data, and simultaneously justify earlier FISA “queries” by their contractor, Fusion GPS. FISA-702 queries were used to gather information on the Trump campaign which later became FBI counterintelligence surveillance on the officials therein.

The hashtag we're posting is #FusionCollusion

>Berelowitz
How surprising...

I wish the Trump curse would take effect on them big time

Mate, when you're up against the entire government on both wings (they're both left wing desu), the Orwelian secret services, the police, the criminal justice system, the lefties, the media and censored and silenced with court orders and bans from all angles there is no 'right way'.
It will just lead to the rise of extreme far right groups and terrorist/freedom fighters (depending whom you ask) blowing shit up to fight fire with fire.

I go even further - does a civic nationalists even deserve a country. Do they have right for that?

I'm sure the feeling was mutual with the German veterans.

I believe that too

if he did come he'd better bring his own security, I wouldn't trust our lot to help him.