Call me a defeatist asshole, but if the 14 words mean anything we need to think about a plan B and do it fast, time is running. In the worst case scenario, we will lose sovereignty on all Western land, with countries like Germany and the UK being the first ones to go. So, what is the plan B to this apocalyptic scenario if not building a whole new nation? A nation with strict immigration laws and, given the situation that we are currently into, a government that is the least democratic as possible. We would need well-defined requirements for becoming a citizen, such as:
>95% European heritage or more
>tested IQ of 110 or above
>under the age of 50
>no major hereditary diseases
The army would be composed of every single male citizen in the country, who would obviously have the right to own firearms. Issues like healthcare, justice and trade can be discussed in detail with time, so the main issue remains the one of WHERE. I have been considering various options, among which:
>buying land from poor countries (e.g. Central America) or countries that don't use the land (e.g. Siberia)
>settling on deserted lands with harsh living conditions, such as the Artic
>physically building a new island or a floating/underwater city in international waters
>colonizing the moon or other planets
All of these plans would clearly require a lot of funds, but we descend from the most ingenious and successful people that ever existed in the known universe, I am absolutety confident that together we can work something out. Discuss the topic in this thread if you have any good ideas to suggest and/or plans on how to achieve them.
A new nation
seems cool but what's the point if any country with an ICBM can blow it to pieces?
And is missile defense effective when in a couple of decades some countries will be able to shoot high-energy lasers from outer space?
clearly you never read any world history
we're already at plan B retard the nazi's failed over a hundred years ago.
And here I was thinking that *I* was the defeatist asshole... So do you all plan on just standing there and waiting to get nuked?
You do understand that people with low IQ are still needed? There are still menial jobs that provide little satisfaction and no fulfillment, and you need relatively simple people to be content doing them. High IQ people trapped in the lowest levels of society tend to become problematic.
Lets do it
>what is automation
Besides some high IQ people don't mind doing menial jobs for a few hours if they get paid well, there's nothing wrong with that.
You need stupid people. And call your country Prussia.
>14 words
Don't apply to most Europeans. We are not white.
>tested IQ of 110 or above
So generally only Jews are getting in, with rare "whites" here and there?
>no major hereditary diseases
Define "major" and not.
>physically building a new island or a floating/underwater city in international waters
>colonizing the moon or other planets
LARP
>who will service said automation
Hint: it's not the intellectuals
How about one of the random islands that are claimed by several different countries in the Pacific?
>en.wikipedia.org
No one could really make a move to push us off without pissing off one of the other regional powers.
If you don't care about the future of your children, why are you in this thread?
>So generally only Jews are getting in
Read the "95% European heritage or more" part again, kikelicker.
>So, what is the plan B to this apocalyptic scenario
Quit feeding the parasites and they will starve to death. The problem is self correcting.
Weather by choice or necessity whitey's handouts will end and without us the mud people cannot feed themselves or provide heat or fresh water. They cannot survive without our aid.
Robots, nuclear power = no need for immigrants
Get money you f0kin n334s
>everyone who disagrees with me is a jew/shill/reddit/whatever
Only west Europeans and new worlders are white. So why shoud I, someone who is below the negro, care about your future & children?
>make white enthnostate
>in one or two generations, the exact same nation ruining bullshit happens with a naive, coddled youth who can produce nothing but attempts to stoke their ego the most amongst lemming peers
if anything, we should help let shit burn. the survivors of the ashes will be tempered and strong, and well versed in the bullshit of minorities and the left
There is no plan b. I win or I die.
If you don't consider yourself white then don't care, fuck off, build your own nation, die or do whatever you want.
Our ancestors were tempered and strong as well, yet this is the society they ended up creating. We need to build something solid enough to resist the erosion of time.
Im pure white, 19, and have a 145 iq but I think that the non-racial requirements are retarded. IQ is arbitrary and doesnt have much direct effect on what a person does, stupid people are needed to work and fight. 50+ people are the most useful and the fact that you would even suggest not allowing them shows that you're a moron and unfit to lead. I could see 70 or something as a limit so the country isnt worrying about retirees but 50-65 are "prime working years" because the person is very experienced and still able to function, especially to teach the next generation.
>service said automation
any automation that needs to be
>serviced
besides the very rare troubleshooting or further development is a failure
automation isn't just about muh robots and controllers, but also about all the things they bring to the industry, all the standardization, uniformity that make business processes plannable and dependable.
An automated factory needs reduced maintenance or even monitoring, that's the whole point.
Researching male-male insemination will eat up much of the initial investments.
I don't know that a nation in the middle of an ocean is going to work. Why don't we learn from history and go from there?
How about building on Antarctica? It's settled now by a few countries here and there, but it's feasible to kick those people out and evict them.
I guess then the hard part would be colonizing it and building something from that cold barren wasteland. But, if LA can be built up in the middle of the desert, it should be possible to work something out with Antarctica.
Then we're talking 50+ years of isolated settlement and growth before we'd attract anyone of any meaningful value whatsoever to the new country.. it's not like many people would go over right away. We'd need brave settlers to do the heavy lifting and then maybe later more people could come.
Seems mostly impossible, but still maybe more feasible than an ocean nation IMO.
i think you just started something.
SS
There is no "consisering oneself" or "identufying as" a "white" You are either white or you are not. There is a clear definition for this:
The founding fathers of America coined the term "white" - and the definition was (north)west Europeans only. And moreso when the states were founded only free west Europeans and Africans (and their slaves) were allowed in, while east Europeans (paeticularly Slavs) were not.
And same thing is happening today, the west is doing their best to keep east European migrants out, but shipping in middle easterners and Africans by the boatloads daily (literally).
We are not white.
Automation just like anything needs to be constantly upkept.
t. worked on "virtually eternal" heavy hydraulic systems - they fail all the time.
Kek
This guy is clearly a faggot who wouldn't even pass his own requirements.
Take back Germany you fucking cuck. We're all counting on you
>IQ is arbitrary
>50-65 are "prime working years"
>a nation of zombies is fine when there are no pensions
Your application for citizenship has been rejected. Thank you for understanding, now please go and create your own country.
>with countries like Germany and the UK being the first ones to go
Whats with this defeatist attitude?
Um, America doesn't important Africans except in very rare circumstances like those few hundred kids from Ghana or whatever and Europe allows Europeans to go wherever they want.
What are the 14 words?
>maintenance jobs that can't be automated are menial works that can be entrusted to uneducated, unskilled workers
If all the white nationalists would just fucking pick somewhere and move, there wouldn't be a problem.
Instead, they sit around as 1% of their local population and whine that no one fixes things for them.
Like, just pick a target date next year for every single white nationalist worldwide to move to say, Switzerland, and boom, you've got an eternal white homeland.
>new nation
>needing sovereign land
Isn't a nation without borders, but with a common idealism much more powerful?
That was back when you were founded, also now most of your states are taking in Mexicans over any other group.
And being free to travel across borders does not equate permits to work & stay there. just look at the Ukraine situation: the west told them to fuck off.
Lmao youre such a fucking faggot
Right, who likes high intelligence, health, masculinity, innovation and wealth? The National Socialists were the most unpopular guys ever.
Mexicans are quite different from Africans, trust me.
>a nation
>without borders
An oxymoron
You're either a shill or so weak minded that you've actually allowed the D&C talking points to brainwash you. Either get your mind right or fuck off. Latvians are white.
They were in most of Europe at the time. Second the the bolsheviks that is.
Where does it state that Latvians/Balts are white?
>images
You can find images of attractive women of any nationality. And they still do not define "whiteness"
>A nation is a stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, ethnicity and/or psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.
That's from Wikipedia. Now take out territory and replace it with common idealism and you have what I imagine as a nation without borders
That quote is exactly why a nation without borders cannot exist. It would be a union at best.
>replace territory with another word that means something completely different
Have fun not getting recognized by and allowed to trade with any other state in the world.
No, you are wrong. Every white ethnostate will ultimately succumb to cultural marxism due to whites' pathological altruism. A Messiah/Antichrist is needed. A modern day Hitler willing to perform the ultimate sacrifice.
It = ?
Use your fucking brain you twat. It seriously isn't obviously to your they're trying to distract us with infighting while they tear apart Western Civilization inch by inch?
How am I tearing apart Western civ? Most of east Europe has never been a part of it. It's even in the bloody name: WESTERN civlization.
>It = ?
What is this even supposed to mean?
Western civilization being white nations based on the rational line of thought descended from Socrates/Plato/Aristotle, of which Latvia is one.
I wasn't saying you're the one fucking us over, the cultural marxists are and you're falling for one of their tricks.
They become powerful by dividing us, like they did in Russia with the proles vs the bourgeois, like they're doing in the US with identity politics, and like they're doing here with the Slavs aren't white and le 56% burger memes.
Don't fall for it and be a useful idiot.
You have to consider that creating a publicly existing location creates a target.
It should be obvious as necessary that for every public site several concealed ones are needed to create real security.
Being able to build under ground and under sea may be essential skills for the effort to preserve our heritage.
The development of this technology is not optional.
Children.You cant beat entropy.Burn everything to the ground and start something new.Destruction is not a negative force in the universe.The old and rusty must be torn down to make room for the new and vibrant.Without destruction, there would be no need for creation and the world would have no purpose,except to endure.Stagnant.Static.Forever.
But Slavs (and Balts too) are not white by the definition - in 1950 America I would be viewed the same as a negro, maybe even less.
And I don't see what is the big fuss about it. If you stopped trying to force the title upon us then nobody would have a problem.
And we have always been divided along some lines or anther ever since the dawn of our times. There has never been any unity, probably never will be.
And no, Latvia was not founded upon any pre-Christian philosophy, even when our govt. LARPs as a "republic" (a meaningless, feel-good term)
Well whatever, if you don't want to be a part then fine, I'm not trying to force anything on you. My only point was that you and your people would be welcome in any ethno-state than any non-anonymous has propositioned, the people who say you're not welcome are all anonymous shills either trolling or working for Soros bucks. If you don't want to be a part and want to self segregate feel free. But don't whine that it's us keeping you out, it's you choosing not to join.
>nomadic nations don't exist
Infuential cultures need land, right, but the rest isn't true
All europeans are white by definition. There is no such thing as a european that is not white.
>buying land from poor countries (e.g. Central America) or countries that don't use the land (e.g. Siberia)
>settling on deserted lands with harsh living conditions, such as the Artic
>physically building a new island or a floating/underwater city in international waters
>colonizing the moon or other planets
Go with option 1. Rest is just retarded
Those are not nations, but peoples. They are not one and the same. Gypsies and (to a lesser extent) Jews are peoples, but still not nations.
> Romanians
> Moldavians
> Albanians
> Bosniaks
> Kosovo
> Bulgaria
> white
u havin' a laugh m8?
My Baltic brother, join the non-white alliance!
We are waiting.
What 1950 definition are you referring to? Lots of Russians were allowed to immigrate and they weren't treated lower than blacks, you're just making shit up. I can't find any stats on Lats but if Russians were allowed in and allowed to integrate I have to assume Lats were too.
Upon further reading I think you're actually completely full of shit, Latvians were treated just fine as far as I can find. I'm sure there was some discrimination for new immigrants here and there but saying they were treated lower than blacks is ridiculous, got any sources for that?
everyculture.com
But whatever.
The more I read the more it's apparent you've been brainwashed.
>Except for the political radicals among them, pre-World War II Latvian immigrants tended to assimilate easily. According to Brown and Roucek, 60.9 percent of the 20,673 foreign-born Latvians in the United States had been naturalized by 1930, while another 10.5 percent had declared their intention to be naturalized. Most Latvians, like other immigrants, started out in low-paying, unskilled jobs, but over the years gained experience and higher socioeconomic status. A report of the Committee on Racial Groups of the Massachusetts Bay Tercentenary Inc., written about 1930, had this to say about the Latvians in Massachusetts: "The Lettish people cannot be classified among the rich, but neither are they poor. Many of them own their own homes. Partly due to the fact that the Letts are scattered, there are no Lettish banks, corporations, or big businesses that are worth mentioning. The same is true of the professional workers. Mostly, they are skilled workers, such as carpenters, machinists, painters, wood finishers, tool makers, railroad workers, garage mechanics. Some of them, however, have taken up farming as their chosen profession and are successful farmers" (Committee on Racial Groups of the Massachusetts Bay Tercentenary Inc., Historical Review, 1930).
Slavs aren't white.
You might treat them as untermenschen, but we will treat them as Gods!
Kike divide and conquer tactics might have a factual basis, but you are failing. Slavs and Mediterraneans may not be white but we support them and wish for them to succeed in building ethnostates. We'd be happy to just sell them proper human food for technology and medical innovation.
Ignore divide and conquer. Any westerner in real life would treat you and your people as white without hypocrisy. What more do you want, written apology for a past that might have never been?
You are Evropa.
lol wut
We have had enough of X Unions already. I wish the world would just leave us to die in peace, but we ain't getting even that.
During the 1940s-to-90s nobody was allowed to emigrate, we were under Soviet occupation. They built walls to keep people inside and shot anyone trying to leave to the west.
And by old definions we don't exist because we were under different empires up until 1918, and then again 1939-1991. Basically we didn't exist back then, and definitely will not in the future either.
Looks like a load of crap made up by some stuck up expat.
They can be white enough, even more than the average North American. As I said in the OP, what matters is the percentage of European genes and the IQ.
Perejil Island seems nice
>I'm not allowed to emigrate because politics so therefore I was treated as less than a black in the US.
wut
You are very confused and misinformed about American history
>Getting driven out of your homeland to resettle in warm shithole where your genes will adapt to r-selected environment.
Stick to plan A, Hans. Hold your ground and build a new Reich.
>Basically we didn't exist back then, and definitely will not in the future either.
>WE
but do YOU exist, friend? or tossing in the deathbed
I mean that by the definition of "free white men" It was referring to western, anglophone nations with some exceptions (France, Ireland)
>what are temperate zones
"es" esmu daļa no "mēs", nekas vairāk.
Damn
>17 posts by this ID
I got a little carried away
All I did was derail another thread.
I'll bugger off now. Goodnight.
By the way, OP's pic comes from video related, I think it is quite an interesting solution that could launch us into a new era of exploration and colonialism of the oceans.
>"es" esmu daļa no "mēs", nekas vairāk.
no >WE is the part of ME
yet - UNION of such ME
is true the FASCISM
in its spiritual dimension
>fascism
>a network of the spiritual individualists that strives to go forth to Hyperborea
everything else is the communitarian universalist abrahamist friendly sunday school where they feed you s o y for another millenia of course which wont happen because the Bogdanoffs do not play that way
And why can't we buy islands in south america?
They're dirt cheap and there are hundreds of them
***WHAT WE NEED TO DO***
We need to takeover a government in africa, so we can
1. Have land for Super Rhodesia
2. Have black slaves to do all the low iq jobs
3. About those slaves, we will have to chop their nuts off like the muslims did to them long ago
We cant make a new country, we just need to shill and take over another somehow.
No thanks, you guys already proved more than enough that slavery doesn't work.
Two possible scenarios
a)
Whites are demographically reduced, eventually violently genocided and the plutocracy rules a world of interbred black subhuman ubi-controlled slaves
b)
Whites are demographically reduced to the point where they are no threat by numbers to the plutocracy, then allowed to merge with the jewish upper class in the nwo hierarchy. The turbo-plutocrats will rule supreme, and jews with whites will form a managerial class that manages the black slave underclass.
IQ minimum should be 100, not 110.
Plan A for me right now is for the US to fall and for whites to take the PNW, but that's a long shot.
I believe in the white race, we will survive, There is no reason we can not do all the plans simultaneously.
Its worked with the muslims though?