So my friend blamed natural disasters and the french for why Haiti is the shithole it is today. Is this true, is he wrong? Can we all have a discussion and see what events made Haiti the way it is today.
What is The History Of Haiti
Luis Williams
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Gavin Campbell
Here's a quick gestalt:
>The Lesson of Haiti
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Jose Gonzalez
Haiti = a literal sweatshop
Benjamin Miller
The niggers killed all the whites and mullatos destroyed the natural resources and now eat mud cookies. Average iq is well below 70.
Ask your faggot friend if the natural disasters only impact the one half of the island.
Christopher Watson
San Domingo was Frances most valuable colony making up 40% of all sugar sold in Europe and 60% of all Coffee sold in Europe.The place should be a wealthy Island Nation in theory but you can take the African out of Africa but you can't take
Africa out of the African....
Ayden Evans
They decided to cut down all their trees for coal and then had no trees so economy became shit. As a product they are now all poor as fuck because they have no way to uplift economy and then natural disasters hit to bring attention to the shithole they live in.
They are really only a few steps ahead of everywhere else.
Colton Ramirez
Germany got obliterated by 2 world wars, had to pay reparations for both of them, and was split in 2 and occupied by enemy powers for over half a century - all this and yet today theyre fine. Haiti has no excuse.
Michael Fisher
Haiti is run by pure bred niggers. Nigger men cannot create a good society.
Hunter King
It is definitely a race issue. Disaster is what happened to Japan (Hiroshima, lost a World War). So tell me, where is Japan in the global ranking (in every terms)?
Nicholas Hughes
Alexander Hall
Pay the white man his reparatshuns nao!!!
Brandon Sullivan
>Germany got obliterated by 2 world wars, had to pay reparations for both of them, and was split in 2 and occupied by enemy powers for over half a century - all this and yet today theyre fine.
>and yet today theyre fine.
>theyre fine.
?????????????????????????
Benjamin Gonzalez
>Has been an independent country since 1804 after massive chimpout.
>Still blames French for their inadequacies
Your friend is a Gaylord.
Michael Roberts
And they always demand to be paid for reparations or 'that's our land' rhetoric when talking about Dominican Republic. Niggers gonna nig
Matthew Butler
>Columbus shows up. Spanish governors force the natives to do labor. Many of them stop having kids and basically lose the will to live
>Black people are imported from africa. They die also. They are basically worked to death, more are imported to replace them
>Haiti is now 95% black, about 10,000 whites run the place. There is also a decent number of mullatoes
>Slaves die and are replaced so quickly that most slaves in Haiti are FOB first generation people. They remember being free and fucking hate slavery.
>around the french revolution, order starts to fall apart in haiti. three armies emerge: a white army that wants an independent white ruled haiti. a black escaped slave army that wants a black ruled haiti. and weirdly a MULATTO ARMY that wants the french to protect them from the other two groups
>the black army under Toussaint L'Ouverture suffers a ridiculous amount of casualties but beats everyone by sheer numbers
>this island is 95% pissed off black people basically
>they don't teach this in ((school)): after the war the black army killed the white and mullato populations of haiti. it was the haitian genocide you can look it up.
>a few polish soldiers were spared because they helped the slaves out, as well as a few white doctors because I guess there weren't any good black doctors
>white women were spared if they "married a haitian soldier" i.e. agreed to be raped instead of murdered
Liam Green
was this photo taken before or after the Earthquake?
John Sullivan
>natural disasters
Literally everything that happened to Haiti happened to the Dominican Republic. They share the exact same island. The DR is shit, but it's not mud cookies and sub 1000 gdp per capita shit.
Jeremiah Wright
The Horrors of St Domingo
French Colonist woman who managed to escape before being butchered tells her story
Nicholas Baker
Imagine if a business was run by and exclusively employed people with the mental faculties of 10 year olds. Do you think it could EVER be successful?
Zachary Jones
its the biggest nigger filled shithole on earth
thats all you need to know
Jackson King
op I have many redpills on haiti if you like I can dump for an hour then I have to go
Juan Campbell
I'll take a stab at it - beyond "hurr durr blacks" and "hurr durr no whites"
This is applicable to many shithole countries in africa/middle east as well
Food Aid
Up until the past century the limiting factor of a society's population was more or less food. The most stable and healthy society can not expand if they dont have an input of energy. Law of thermodynamics.
Now - I'm going to skip over a bunch of shit here but agraian societies (whites) had thousands of years of wars in order to adjust to that type of society - as did chinese and indians.
Africa was so rich in water buffalo and weird ass diseases that survival was not dependant on food but resistance to all the weird ass shit floating around. If there is a global plague you best bet blacks will survive better due to their immense genetic diversity when compared to all other races - its fascinating.
I work in ag biotech so i like to think of whites as the "domesticated" crop species - barley (whites) rice (asians) wheat (browns) - Those crops not only went through conditioning but they are also pretty closely related
Meanwhile blacks are any random annual weed - they just set up shop wherever they is and do their thing as long as the gots what they needs (in general)
But lacking any degree of homoginy there is bound to be interclan conflict. Again like in plants, similar species "help a brother out" by growing in a way to not totally block their neighbors light. If its a different species or strain however they become extremely competitive.
So the "civilized" races are like a farmers feild - maintained, cooperative - but blacks are wild praire survival of the fittest.
I'm not saying one's inferior as a whole - its just a difference. As a biologist I have respect for all living things as long as they arn't all up in my shit.
So back to haiti - the wild prairie grasses are competing with each other following natures course and would eventually reach an equalibrium ...
Lucas Hughes
Faustin Soulouque, illiterate, believer in voodoo, ruled 1847-1858, became Emperor Faustin I. in 1849.
Murdered most of the mulatto elite, whose figurehead he originally was, in a 4-day massacre, and started several (disastrously failed) wars of conquest against the Dominican Republic.
What was left of the state treasure was depleted for his coronation garb (incl. a 100,000 dollar bling-bling crown).
Due to civil war and a revolution led by a mulatto general, was forced to abdicate and flee to Jamaica.
Joseph Hall
>france still hasn't recognized the independence of haiti
>The new haitian government first things first banned whips as a symbol of slavery. But they needed something to encourage people to work more, so they used vines instead.
>people were also forced to stay on the same plantations they worked at under slavery
>Same shit, different masters basically
>the french blockade haiti in 1825 and force the haitians to pay 150 million francs (roughly the value of all the slaves) in exchange for recognition of haitian independence
>this really fucks up a country that was already fucked up
>haiti remained fucked up. but they keep paying their debts and manage to get away from a plantation system towards a family farm system
>they have MANY different governments. no stability at all.
>america invests in haiti, and then invades the country to protect its Haitian American Sugar Company
>they are basically an american colony and they dislike it
>they are still pissed at us today over it
>they still want to move here i guess
>trump correctly calls them a shithole
That's Haiti!
Camden Bennett
op is a 1 post by this ID
Parker Collins
Yes please, the more information the better.
Jason Howard
op left however I have many redpills about haiti should a dump?
Jackson Cook
The Haitian Revolutuion was the first attack against the White Race done by the Anglos
Christopher Roberts
there you are op
consider the following in 1965 haiti and the dominican republic were economically equal
>The Dominican Republic and Haiti present a quasi-natural experiment; the two countries
share the island of Hispaniola and are broadly similar in terms of geography and historical
institutions, yet their growth performance has diverged remarkably since 1960. In 1960, the
Dominican Republic and Haiti had the same per capita real GDP at just below US$800.
However, by 2005, the Dominican Republic’s per capita real GDP had tripled to about
US$2,500, whereas that of Haiti had halved to US$430
imf.org
today
>The Dominican Republic’s economic growth has been one of the strongest in the LAC region over the past 25 years. In the first quarter of 2017, the economy expanded by 5.2 percent, following yearly average growth of 7.1 percent between 2014-16. This contrasted sharply with that of the average 1.4 percent contraction for the LAC region in 2016.
worldbank.org
and haiti is still eating mudcookies
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Christian Sullivan
proceed
Ayden Powell
haiti is the biggest black market (no pun intended) on this side of the planet, it is a failed state where law is almost non existent and the ruling class has no problem selling out the "people"
>transparency International's Corruption Perception Index for 2008 ranked Haiti the fourth most corrupt country in the world. Transparency International's Corruption Perception Index for 2013 ranked Haiti the most corrupt country in the Caribbean region, ranking 163th out of 177 countries
globalsecurity.org
Asher White
but then we (rich nations) keep acting like a farmer, spraying fertilizer (food aid), intervining in in fighting (weeding) and all around sisrupting the natural flow
IMHO all of africa and other shithole countries should become global wildlife reserves. We have enough of the globe, leave some to the natural chaos - its healthy for all life (not kidding)
Nobody NOBODY in or out. No intervention, no aid - just let them figure it out. It took us thousands of years, give em at least a few hundred to catch up
Liam Peterson
I usually browse here for news and politics. I don't really post much since my arguments and wit is weak.
William Lopez
will do
>THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE HAS ASSESSED PORT-AU-PRINCE AS BEING A CRITICAL-THREAT LOCATION FOR CRIME DIRECTED AT OR AFFECTING OFFICIAL U.S. GOVERNMENT INTERESTS.
>Crime statistics are woefully underreported by the Haitian National Police (HNP), and reports indicating that Haiti is statistically safer than other countries in the Caribbean are inaccurate.
>Homicides continue to be a major concern in Haiti. In 2016, there were 1,029 reported homicides, with 70% occurring in Port-au-Prince.
osac.gov
Landon Perez
focus on this and you will improve
Sup Forums in the past was
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Andrew Reed
The French are to blame because they bought black people to Haiti.
Mason James
when the left eats itself no one notices
>With upwards of 10,000 nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) operating within its borders, Haiti is known as the Republic of NGOs. Yet despite the billions of aid dollars invested in Haiti’s development, this island nation still has an unemployment rate of 40 percent and ranks as one of the poorest countries in the world. Why is international aid to Haiti not more effective? The reality is that a confluence of poor accountability and lack of local partnering by international organizations (IOs) have severely hindered the effectiveness of aid dollars, and hence, Haiti’s development.
>A lack of accountability for how NGOs spend their aid dollars also results in a huge waste of aid money. Since there is no actual oversight or well-defined metrics on how well many large NGO programs are run, programs are often run and managed poorly. For instance, a report put out jointly by NPR and ProPublica found that the Red Cross claimed that all $500 million dollars it raised for Haiti went to serving 4.5 million Haitians. However, with only a population of 10 million, this number is highly improbable and the Red Cross has not provided supporting details. The money spent on actual programming was likely far less than claimed. When asked for a list of their specific Haiti programs and their cost, the Red Cross declined. The Red Cross has also stated that it has provided homes for over 130,000 Haitians. Yet on further questioning, the Red Cross acknowledged that the figure included people who attended a seminar in how to fix homes, and those who received temporary rental assistance. Additionally, many managers were not able to speak Creole or French.
huffingtonpost.com
Levi Torres
>This World Bank map of the region shows the percent of land that still covered by forest. Haiti falls in the category of countries whose forest cover is rapidly diminishing. The proportion of forest area as a percentage of total land area that remains in Haiti today is estimated at 3.5%, compared with 41% in the neighboring Dominican Republic. Drought conditions have pushed people to continue this detrimental practice
data.worldbank.org
the problem is niggers and the use of charcol
>Most of the ten million people of Haiti use solid fuels, primarily wood and charcoal, for cooking and heating, with the combustion of biomass equaling an estimated 70% of Haiti's annual energy use
cooperation.epfl.ch
Cooper Cooper
top ten causes of death in haiti
>Cardiovascular Diseases
>Diarrhea/LRI/Other
>Neoplasms
>HIV/AIDS & Tuberculosis
>Diabetes/Urog/Blood/Endocrine Diseases
>Neonatal Disorders
>Unintentional Injuries
>Chronic Respiratory Diseases
>Transport Injuries
>Other Non-Communicable Diseases
cdc.gov
>The fact is that many Haitians, especially the five million who live in the countryside, believe that many illnesses, including Aids, are caused by magic rather than microbes.
>"For them it's not due to a virus or their behaviour, but it's done by somebody else, and enemy who is trying to do them evil."
>Because of this magical view of life and sickness, Haitian peasants suffering from HIV or Aids are more likely to go and seek help from their local voodoo priest than from a government clinic.
news.bbc.co.uk
Aaron Myers
>>With upwards of 10,000 nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) operating within its borders, Haiti is known as the Republic of NGOs.
Jesus Christ.
Jayden Jackson
the Clintons and haiti
>former U.S. president Bill Clinton — now UN special envoy to Haiti — apologized for the U.S. policies that helped destroy Haiti’s agriculture sector under his presidency, making Haiti dependent on U.S.-imports for food staples like rice.
huffingtonpost.com
vid
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>Gold Mine: Hillary Clinton’s Brother Granted Super-Rare Mining Permit from Haiti After State Dept. Sent Country Billions… HuffPo’s Stein: Clinton Foundation Did Influence Foreign Policy Because Donors Got Access
>Hillary Rodham Clinton’s brother, Tony Rodham, sat on the board of a self-described mining company that in 2012 received one of only two “gold exploitation permits” from the Haitian government—the first issued in over 50 years.
investmentwatchblog.com
>CARACOL, Haiti (AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton encouraged foreigners to invest in Haiti as she and her husband Bill led a star-studded delegation gathered Monday to inaugurate a new industrial park at the center of U.S. efforts to help the country rebuild after the 2010 earthquake.
>Actors Sean Penn and Ben Stiller, fashion designer Donna Karan and British business magnate Richard Branson were among the luminaries at the opening of the new Caracol Industrial Park, which is projected to create thousands of jobs more than 100 miles from the quake-ravaged capital of Port-au-Prince.
>Hillary Rodham Clinton told a roomful of investors gathered for a luncheon that she had made Haiti a priority when she became secretary of state.
usatoday.com
Isaiah Parker
Essentially they killed whitey and took over. Now after a few hundred years of doing what comes naturally the country is a shithole
There's a caveat though. The French made them pay reparations for the revolution. Because of that, black nationalists around the world have plausible deniability for why the country is shit - "whitey stole all their money".
Adrian Butler
Anybody hungry for fine Haitian cuisine?
Benjamin Nelson
>>The history of the eradication of the Haitian Creole pig population in the 1980's is a classic parable of globalization. Haiti's small, black, Creole pigs were at the heart of the peasant economy. An extremely hearty breed, well adapted to Haiti's climate and conditions, they ate readily available waste products, and could survive for three days without food. Eighty to 85% of rural households raised pigs; they played a key role in maintaining the fertility of the soil and constituted the primary savings bank of the peasant population. Traditionally a pig was sold to pay for emergencies and special occasions (funerals, marriages, baptisms, illnesses and, critically, to pay school fees and buy books for the children when school opened each year in October.)
>In 1982 international agencies assured Haiti's peasants their pigs were sick and had to be killed (so that the illness would not spread to countries to the North). Promises were made that better pigs would replace the sick pigs. With an efficiency not since seen among development projects, all of the Creole pigs were killed over a period of thirteen months.
>Two years later the new, better pigs came from Iowa. They were so much better that they required clean drinking water (unavailable to 80% of the Haitian population), imported feed (costing $90 a year when the per capita income was about $130), and special roofed pigpens. haitian peasants quickly dubbed them prince a quatre pieds, (four-footed princes)
hartford-hwp.com
quoting a leafbro
>They neglected their pig population until they had superpigs that even Haitians couldn't kill with neglect
Wyatt Robinson
Be Japan
>Typhoons
>Tsunamis
>Earthquakes
>Firebombed repeatedly
>Nuked
>Twice!
Not a shithole.
Zachary Russell
buying property in haiti is nearly impossible for
foreigners
>The Haitian system of establishing property rights is so convoluted, complicated and corrupt that for the average citizen of Haiti, owning any property will always remain just a dream. Obtaining a legally recognized title to property in Haiti takes over 11 years and 111 bureaucratic steps involving 32 separate offices and countless forms to be filed,
globalpropertyguide.com
except if you are a Clinton ofcourse
Andrew Russell
fpbp
Easton Rogers
haiti official langue is french politics.gov,higher learning etc however
> Nine of every ten Haitians spoke only Creole, which was the everyday language for the entire population. About one in ten also spoke French. And only about one in twenty was fluent in both French and Creole
>French language became a vital distinction between these who had been emancipated before the revolution (the anciens libres) and those who achieved freedom through the revolution, and it ensured the superior status of the anciens libres. French became the language not only of government and commerce, but also of culture and refinement. Even the most nationalist Haitians of the nineteenth century placed little value on Creole.
>The constitution of 1983 declared that both Creole and French were the national languages but specified that French would be the official language
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Carter Reed
>that mud cookie video
I don't care how backward or savage a person is, that breaks my heart. Not even other mammals have to depend on dirt for food.
Tyler Lopez
could this be why the clintons love haiti so much
>Trafficking in persons:
current situation: Haiti is a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children subjected to forced labor and sex trafficking; most of Haiti’s trafficking cases involve children in domestic servitude vulnerable to physical and sexual abuse; dismissed and runaway child domestic servants often end up in prostitution, begging, or street crime; other exploited populations included low-income Haitians, child laborers, and women and children living in IDP camps dating to the 2010 earthquake; Haitian adults are vulnerable to fraudulent labor recruitment abroad and, along with children, may be subjected to forced labor in the Dominican Republic, elsewhere in the Caribbean, South America, and the US; Dominicans are exploited in sex trafficking and forced labor in Haiti
tier rating: Tier 2 Watch List – Haiti does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking; however, it is making significant efforts to do so; in 2014, Haiti was granted a waiver from an otherwise required downgrade to Tier 3 because its government has a written plan that, if implemented would constitute making significant efforts to bring itself into compliance with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking; in 2014, Haiti developed a national anti-trafficking action plan and enacted a law prohibiting all forms of human trafficking, although judicial corruption hampered its implementation; progress was made in investigating and prosecuting suspected traffickers, but no convictions were made; the government sustained limited efforts to identify and refer victims to protective services, which were provided mostly by NGOs without government support; campaigns to raise awareness about child labor and child trafficking continued (2015)
cia.gov
Ryan Garcia
alternet.org
Overlooking the obvious left-leaning biases of this article, it does paint a pretty good picture for some the causes of haiti being such a total shithole. They were legitimately fucked over several times and the blame for the current state of the country doesn't fall completely on their shoulders.
However, there are several things that they did do to themselves, things that are pretty fucking easy and cheap to avoid if you aren't totally retarded and have some foresight and planning. But we all know that isn't exactly the strong suit of the uneducated and ignorant
Xavier Long
It's an African colony, nothing else needs to be said.
Isaiah Clark
I certainly hope it was after
Luke Brown
>being that profoundly retarded
I truly pity them but good god why would anyone invite someone that fucking stupid into your country?
Nathan Mitchell
haitian fishermen kill a humpback whale
youtube.com
I feel moar sorry for that whale
Grayson Cruz
No dirt for you Tyrone!
Aiden Walker
the failed state of haiti
>The most serious impediments to human rights involved weak democratic
governance in the country worsened by the lack of an elected and functioning
government; insufficient respect for the rule of law, exacerbated by a deficient
judicial system; and chronic widespread corruption.
>Other human rights problems included significant but isolated allegations of
arbitrary and unlawful killings by government officials; allegations of use of force
against suspects and protesters; severe overcrowding and poor sanitation in
prisons; chronic prolonged pretrial detention; an inefficient, unreliable, and
inconsistent judiciary; governmental confiscation of private property without due
process. There was also rape, violence, and societal discrimination against
women; child abuse; allegations of social marginalization of vulnerable
populations; and trafficking in persons. Violence, including gender-based
violence, and crime within the remaining internally displaced persons (IDP) camps
remained a problem.
justice.gov
Luke Edwards
Very troubled...
Evan Powell
haiti's average IQ
Gavin Ramirez
Be Korea
>Hans invade
>Mongols invade
>Jurchens invade
>Japanese invade
>Manchus invade
>Everyone invades again
>During Korean War everywhere but Busan shelled and bombed into smithereens
Not a shithole.
Samuel Gomez
haitian internet
>Internet users: 1.3 million, 165th in the world; 12.2% of the population, 168th in the world (2015)
>Fixed broadband: unknown (2012)
>Mobile broadband: 15,781 subscriptions, 137th in the world; 0.2% of the population, 144th in the world (2012).
>Internet hosts: 555 hosts, 181st in the world (2012).
>IPv4: 124,160 addresses allocated, less than 0.05% of the world's total, 13 per 1000 people
en.wikipedia.org
Matthew Sanders
This.
Dylan Stewart
Sup Forums 101- Dr William L. Pierce - The Lesson of Haiti (must watch)
youtube.com
this is the niggers take on what happend (WE WUZ KANGZ)
>1804 the hidden history of haiti
youtube.com
Nicholas Bell
>is he wrong?
Yes
>what events made Haiti the way it is today.
Niggers
Julian Long
Half not a shithole
Joshua Bell
Hard to tell, to my humble opinion the earthquake helped them to get rid of their deficient infraestructure.
Noah Torres
I'd like to thank you for all the information you brought mate. I'll be looking more into this, and now I have more of an argument against my friend.
Robert Walker
>UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Earthquake-ravaged Haiti turned down an offer of troops from the neighboring Dominican Republic, forcing the United Nations to look elsewhere for additional peacekeepers, U.N. diplomats said on Wednesday.
reuters.com
>Santo Domingo.- Haiti interim presidentJocelerme Privert on Saturday defended the Dominican Republic’s right toprotect its equipment operating in Haitian territory as part of the aid tothousands of victims of Hurricane Matthew, and criticized those sectors thatquestion the presence of Dominican troops in his country despite his nation’s shorcomingsto help its own citizens.
dominicantoday.com
Dominic Hernandez
Remember that half the population is below that number.
Ryan Mitchell
its history has been changed forever..... its officially a shithole forever
Jack Reyes
this article is good it explains alot in good fashion
>France, Haiti’s colonial overlord, imported vast numbers of slaves to work the sugar-cane fields. Spanish rule of Santo Domingo, as it was known, was less brutal, in part because Spain had more lucrative possessions in other parts of Latin America to exploit. When Haiti gained independence in 1804 it was an overpopulated plantation economy. The Dominican Republic started out as a society of small farmers. It has retained closer ties with its former Spanish masters than Haiti has with France.
economist.com
Chase Bennett
wew lad
Mason Smith
cont. to the pig eradication
haiti
>By September, there were about 2,400 pigs in Haiti, including 500 at the breeding center and 1,800 others that had been imported from the United States and put in the hands of 500 peasants throughout the country as a means of verifying that the disease was gone. There were 98 wild Haitian black pigs still being tracked down in the bush.
DR
>The Dominican Republic, he said, started rebuilding its pig population from scratch four years ago and by this year had 500,000 pigs, or 100,000 more than expected. But, he said, there have recently been shortages of imported and domestically produced feed in the Dominican Republic, and this is likely to slow the recovery.
nytimes.com
Lincoln Anderson
haitian women cross the border illegally to give birth in DR this burden is almost 50% of the FR healthcare budget
>Santo Domingo.- Dominican Obstetrics-Gynecology Society secretary Dr. César López on Sunday said it’s very difficult to find that women of Haitian nationality don’t come to give birth in the Dominican Republic. “In the capital, 40% of women in labor are Haitian.”
>He said that’s the basic problem that increases maternal mortality in the country, since they are malnourished women, without prenatal consultations, with high prevalence and incidence of AIDS, syphilis and tuberculosis, and are patients which already have complications.
dominicantoday.com
>Confirmed: Haiti doctors send pregnant women to give birth in Dominican hospitals
dominicantoday.com
Ethan Jackson
And apparently they're number 39 in the world for average IQ. How many nations are there again?
Hudson Hall
haitians are the purest niggers out side of africa even other niggers recognize this
>In its 2011 annual report, Amnesty International (AI) stated that [AI English version “[t]here were concerns
about the treatment of Haitian migrants” in the Bahamas (2012). According to a report on global statelessness
published by Refugees International, Haitians in the Bahamas face “widespread” social and economic problems, and
are “constantly in fear of being detained or deported” (Southwick and Lynch Mar. 2009, 32). Moreover, the United
States Department of State noted that the Haitian community is characterized by high poverty and unemployment
rates, low educational achievement and poor health conditions, and that Haitians “generally had difficulty in securing
citizenship, residence, or work permits” (U.S. 8 Apr. 2011, Sec. 6). In the Bahamas, some employers abuse their
Haitian workers; local sources reported that “labor exploitation of undocumented Haitians could be widespread” and
some immigrants may fall victim to “involuntary servitude”
justice.gov
Bahamas send Haitian nationals home as they begin to enforce new immigration rules (emphasis on new)
youtube.com
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James Torres
many countrys rank the same haiti ramked 39rd out of 41
Evan Powell
>used to be friends with black guy (I've since relaxed and got burned for it)
>his wife is Dominican and very light skinned, her family hates him
>he never could figure out why
Robert Scott
Be Singapore
>Built on a swamp
>189% humidity always
>Monsoons
>Malaria
>Typhoid
>Cholera
>Muslims
>Colonised
>Japan invades with bicycle army
>Sook Ching Massacre
>Join Malaysia
>New laws introduced giving Malays affirmative action.
>Chinese complain
>Malaysia kicks Singapore out of the federation
>Lee Kuan Yew cries and then says "OK, we do it ourselves."
>Singapore thrives
>Malaysia threatens to cut off fresh water
>Singapore becomes self sufficient in fresh water
Not a shithole.
Juan Reyes
Thank you for your posts
Imagine an actual new report with all this info. You make me miss old Sup Forums a lot. It’s posts like yours that remind me to keep this place alive
Thank you user
Gabriel Flores
haitian civilians hate the clinton on the other hand haitian politicians the top 1% sold haiti to the clintons
youtube.com
in this vid the Former Senate President of Haiti is talking to Trump about the clintons
>"Clinton Stole the Money" Former Senate President of Haiti Exposes the Clinton Foundation
youtube.com
Trumps face in the first 2 sec is golden
Carson Howard
basically its a shithole. always has been. probably always will be.
Lucas Thomas
thanks user, if only newfriends took a second to learn Sup Forums board culture, citations, links, vetted sources,proper arguments (no logical fallacies) and a bit of banter to keep it fun, Sup Forums will bounce back in no time
Joshua Kelly
>If there is a global plague you best bet blacks will survive better due to their immense genetic diversity
>91% of the world’s HIV-positive children live in Africa.
Christopher Davis
Like anyone from Sup Forums would ever believe this
Dominic Taylor
haitians tried to ban PEPE
en.wikipedia.org
>In Haiti, pepe may refer to secondhand clothes that are commonly worn by its population. These clothes are usually sent from the United States.[1] The Haitian textile industry has suffered due to the widespread popularity of pepe.[2] There have even been discussions about banning the import of pepe.[3] However, this is unlikely since the general population continues to wear pepe, which include many brand names that otherwise would be inaccessible.[3]
Camden Lopez
peaceful succession of gov, has not been a stong suit of haiti, this seriously impedes forign investors, except for the Clintons
>There have been 45 leaders since the country achieved independence from France in 1804, and for the most part they have pillaged and plundered, ruled as despots, stifled opposition, violated human rights and operated with impunity.
(this article also talks about Sam)
latimes.com
John Rivera
>blaming the french for haiti
might as well blame the romans for germany.
Landon Murphy
How about you answer the question: why are we taking people from shitholes over objectively better candidates?
Stop sliding the issue.
Samuel Bailey
>mfw trump shithole remark is 45d chess (if remarks not true dems shot them selves in the foot)
now that the dems and liberals bent over backwards claming haiti is a paradise trump will end TPS for 60,000 haitians that will most likely migrate to Canada
> The Trump administration is ending a humanitarian program that has allowed some 59,000 Haitians to live and work in the United States since an earthquake ravaged their country in 2010, Homeland Security officials said on Monday.
>Haitians are the second-largest group of foreigners with temporary status. The protection is extended to people already in the United States who have come from countries crippled by natural disasters or armed conflict that prevents their citizens from returning or prevents their country from adequately receiving them. The government periodically reviews each group’s status and decides whether to continue the protections.
nytimes.com
when trump said the haitians have to go back the dems/liberals sceeched NO their country is too shitty now it's not shitty and they have to go back
Jonathan Garcia
haiti is the rape capital of the western hemisphere
>Sources indicate that 70 percent of Haitian women have been affected by gender-based violence (The Haitian
Times 20 Feb. 2013; USIP 6 Jan. 2012, 2). According to the United States Institute of Peace (USIP), "much" of the
violence against these women has been domestic (ibid., 2).
>Several sources state that violence against women in Haiti is "widespread" (MADRE et al. 26 Apr. 2012, 2;
Freedom House 2012; Violence Prevention & Women's Resource Center 28 Feb. 2011). Country Reports on Human
Rights Practices for 2012, published by the United States (US) Department of State, reports that, according to the
United Nations (UN), there are "near daily" incidents of domestic rape and violence in Haiti (US 19 Apr. 2013, 25).
justice.gov
Hudson Thompson
Stop letting them slide it, anons.
Elijah Gomez
OK India, haitians are learning to poo in the loo why can't you?
>People practicing open defecation (% of population)
People practicing open defecation (% of population) in Haiti was 19.00 as of 2015. Its highest value over the past 25 years was 48.50 in 1990, while its lowest value was 19.00 in 2015.
Definition: People practicing open defecation refers to the percentage of the population defecating in the open, such as in fields, forest, bushes, open bodies of water, on beaches, in other open spaces or disposed of with solid waste.
Source: WHO/UNICEF Joint Monitoring Programme (JMP) for Water Supply and Sanitation (wssinfo.org
indexmundi.com
Sebastian Cook
>24 percent of all Haitians have access to a toilet
Sustainable collection and treatment of sewage are practically non-existent throughout the country and only 24 percent of Haitians have access to a toilet. The government has focused on awareness and promotion campaigns to encourage households to build their own latrines, and on making sure there are sanitation facilities in public schools, health institutions and other public spaces. Furthermore, the Haitian government's launched a US$ 2.2 billion 10-year plan in February 2013 to eliminate cholera, which broadly outlines investments needed in water and sanitation as well as prevention, surveillance, and case management.
worldbank.org
Chase Jones
>why are we taking people from shitholes over objectively better candidates?
make a thread with a well thought out op provide citations,links and vetted sources, I will bump your thread user
Justin Reyes
haiti can't into water
>Haiti is the most underserved country in the western hemisphere in terms of water and sanitation infrastructure by a wide margin; only 69% of the population has access to an improved water source and 17% had access to improved sanitation facilities in 2010.1 This level of coverage for sanitation is comparable to some countries in sub-Saharan Africa, and is far below the regional average of 80%
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Anthony Martinez
>that's Haiti!
Well explained, with a top notch ending, 10/10, thunderous applause for you burger man
Aiden Ramirez
don't be racist Sup Forums NO, voodoo is strong black culture we waz kangz
>Vodou is of the belief system that sustained our ancestors across the Middle Passage, during the brutality of the plantation, and through the victories of slave rebellions. Haiti should never apologize for it.
>Christianity and the West’s real problem with Vodou is that, like the Maroons who practiced it, it remains elusive to those who would aim to profit off of it, package it, and control it. Unlike Hinduism or Buddhism, Westerners can’t take a “spiritual journey” to Haiti to “find themselves” in a Vodou temple. Vodou remains a religion steeped in African traditions, for people of African descent, and based on an understanding of the linkages between the natural and spiritual world—Hollywood can’t make a Julia Roberts movie out of that.
ebony.com
Josiah Thomas
>salve colony
>nigs massacre all whites (this one they don't teach in school, they call it the independence movement instead)
>the West cuts all ties to Haiti after the massacre
>Haiti launches several failed ivasions of the Dominican republic
>they cut down all their trees for coal (they blame this one the western plantations, but don't let them fool you, at the beginning of the 1900s Haiti's tree cover was 60%)
>the treeless soil now erodes away every time it rain
>mudslides dump all their fertile soil in to the ocean
>currently on its way to become a barren rock