How do you honestly feel about yuribaiting in anime?

How do you honestly feel about yuribaiting in anime?

Boring.

This gif didn't make me want to watch the show, but everyone saying it made them watch the show and end up disappointed did.

It's not a bad series but it wouldn't be my first rec to a /u/fag.

I love subtext and think "yuribait" is a retarded term.

yomi

I don't think gay series are immune to having authors that don't do more than tease though

How do you feel about yuri dorks?

I'm extremely tired of bait shit and I want actual series with good plot with legit homo relationships.

It disgusts me as much as male faggotry.

subtext sucks. I'd rather it just go all the way.

Degenerates.

it makes my wiener hard

This was a pretty good show. Soundtrack was good too.

But this wasn't bait.

Yuri baiting is fine.

But can we all agree yuri dorks are absolutely fucking retarded?

What ever happened to alpha dykes like ?

Yuribait is something that does exist, but gets thrown around far too much. Including, but not limited to being used by idiots to refer to subtext.

Subtext and bait are different things. Yuribait is using a couple of scenes to pretend the anime or manga will have yuri, but the series won't deliver and in the end one or both girls are confirmed straight. Subtext is something that is not directly shown but is infered indirectly, something that is subtext is by definition canon, but something that is only subtly hinted and is not supported by enough evidence is not subtext (which is the case for many of the pairings some people wrongly call subtext couples).

Garbage. Save us Mike Pence.

>Yuri baiting is fine.
No.

>But can we all agree yuri dorks are absolutely fucking retarded?
No.

I don't think most people are following your distinction

yomi ;_;

I'm just tired of the shitty "turbo dyke x dense clueless protagonist" archetype they pull every time now.

It's a perfect concept to yuri bait, you're free to shove as much lesbo fanservice into the show thanks to the dyke nerd while having eternal plausible deniability thanks to the dense MC. It working so well is precisely what is so disgusting about it. That, and dense characters are always infuriating no matter where or what gender they are.

Thankfully we had AOTY Flip Flappers that avoided this cancer.

When's the last time we had real yuri?

Yuribait isn't really yuri and by definition it never delivers.
Subtext is just something that is not explicitly stated or shown on screen, but is still part of the story and canon.

Cross Ange and Valkyrie Drive

Strawberry Panic.

>not many people use the actual definitions of the terms
What?

Neither of those are real yuri, they are fetish pandering. Not the same thing.

VD was yuri despite excessive ecchi.

Zestria

FAG

Are you retarded

Nah, it's just something for people who like two girls together acting sexual together. For lack of a better non-tumblr word, "male gaze". It's porn, not yuri romance.

No, but you are.

>It's porn, not yuri romance.

You almost got it right.
Here >It's porn not romance but it's still yuri.

Nope, it's just porn. Fetish pandering is not yuri.

>It's porn, not yuri romance.
>If a story has anything sexual, it can't be taken seriously

I haven't watched VD, but how do you differentiate between porn and regular sexual expression which just happens to take place as a part of the story?

>but how do you differentiate between porn and regular sexual expression which just happens to take place as a part of the story?
When that same story doesn't have sex as a plot device. Also, when that story doesn't have pseudo faceless man gang rape scenes.

That new 7 Sins anime

HORNY

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Why do Yayas always lose?

"Fetish pandering", while shit, is still yuri. Yuri refers both romance and porn. Just look at pixiv; everything girl-girl related is tagged as yuri.

Pixiv is not anything to go by, as they don't have strict tagging enforcement. A lot of the time you find futa tagged as yuri.

Yuri is somewhat of a catch-all phrase. But the point is the guy asked when the last real yuri anime was, and fetish pandering isn't real yuri in the sense it's a story, it's just there for people to jerk off to.

>isn't real yuri in the sense it's a story
dont get me wrong, VD is trash, but the main characters are explicitly gay. Remove the fanservice, and (what little) you have left is still two gay girls loving each other

Nah, you have two girls just fucking around and sleeping with different people and being sexual with nearly everything around them. The end game is even threesome shit. It's pure fetish, not love. Therefore, it's not a "yuri" story, it is a porn story.

Last season in 2 shows.

I find they have less of these stupid divisions in general when it comes to girls being gay

How is it stupid to separate porn fetish pandering from the actual genre?

It's cute.

>Nah, it's just something for people who like two girls together acting sexual together. For lack of a better non-tumblr word, "male gaze". It's porn, not yuri romance.
That's ridiculous.
That's like saying softer, less male-focused yuri isn't yuri because it's not explicit enough. And I'm saying that as someone who actually doesn't really care for VD and prefers the soft shit.

Yuri is girls liking girls. You can't say something isn't yuri just because you don't like it.

It ruined Hibike in multiple ways

>Kumiko and reina scenes filled with yuri baiting
>season 2 elevates Reina's childish crush on Taki to extreme cocklust

Whoever wrote that garbage should be shot

You can't call it yuri when it's just fetish pandering.
It's not yuri because the focus of the story is not girls like girls, but "how can we make the male viewer's dicks as erect as possible".

You are so frustrating. Yuri aimed at males doesn't stop it from being yuri.

Most yuri is aimed at males regardless.
Like I already said, the point here is that the focus story isn't girls loving girls, it's girls being sexual for the sake of arousing the watcher. Would you call two girls making out before they fuck some dude in a threesome yuri?

You're absolutely conflating a story's focus with an author's intention for a story. The focus of the story -- what the audience sees without prodding at the fourth wall -- will still be girls in love with girls.

But even if we stepped behind the fourth wall, what if the author's fetish is hand holding? Or blushing? And does that mean if there are scenes in a story that cause an erection in readers, it not only has nothing to do with yuri, but PRECLUDES it from being yuri in the first place?

>yuri anime is aimed at males
>western media with lesbians aimed at females
What happened?

>what the audience sees without prodding at the fourth wall -- will still be girls in love with girls.
Leaving aside your try hard misuse of em dashes, what people will see is blatant sexual pandering. By your logic, the ad here is about about cologne, not sex.

This is quite literally a case of missing the forest for the trees. Sexual pandering IS the point of the story, and that's not breaking the fourth wall, as the sex is part of the story.

>what if the author's fetish is
Not inherently sexual.

>ack trying to force his definition of what is yuri and what isn't

>Brigadoon
Oh boy does that bring back good memories.

>!Akemi trying to force the idea that anyone other than him thinks his boogieman is real
>!Akemi losing an argument so badly he just starts meta shitposting and crying

Really, can you not start this.
The other posts are on topic, yours are not.
You are breaking the rules.

I still enjoyed Hibike but I won't pretend that the queerbaiting didn't hurt it in the long run to some degree. They either needed to go through with it or not make the ReiMiko scenes so goddamn romantic.

Hibike honestly felt like a special case. On Reina's side, it was maximum queerbaiting, but it looks Kumiko at least actually turned out gay. In the anime, at least, of course.

Of course it's still frustrating either way, since it still feels like the closeness between Reina and Kumiko in the first season didn't mean much more than nothing to the both of them.

sauce pls

Lurk for 2 years before posting.

Hibike would've been a great coming of age yuri story if Kyoani really wanted it to be.

Even with keeping the whole Reina is actually into Taki sensei thing.

It's needs a little dose of volt.

It's not the yuri genre, but it's still yuri.

Pls stop it nips.

Either make them gay and consummate the implication or don't do it (unless it's specifically there to imply the character is in the closet and not just bait). The heavy use of 'token gay side character the MC keeps pushing away' became a problem. The character never got developed, gets endlessly denied (multiple times over a series) and almost always as joke.

Then it's expanded to half the cast having a crush, but not doing anything about it. So it's in limbo if they ever really are gay or not.

Bait is bad, have then pursue a relationship or have them be denied in a serious tone, so that the joke isn't endlessly repeated.

>the yuri genre
Is yaoi a genre? Is het?

Technically, it's BL now.

>homos
[x] kill them all

threemilk?

Instantly drop. I think writers wasting time on yuribaiting rather than doing something honestly interesting just shows the anime is pandering trash and the writer don't know what the fuck they are doing.

>kissing and crotch grinding
>just bait

whatever happened at the end of S2? Did it go full /u/? Full hetero? Pussy out with open end?

What series

You go all the way or you don't go. It's that simple.

Ever actually watch the show?
They're both straight and have boyfriends.

The non-Yomi girl whose name I don't remember only gets a boyfriend in the manga.

>They're both straight and have boyfriends.

No one ever remembers Kagura.
And it's the same series. Plus, Kagura supports Yomi's relationship with her boy friend, and does so with enthusiasm.

Well you said "show" instead of "series" so you were wrong.

Trying to nit pick semantics is unbecoming.
Plus, show can refer to and told story with images as well, so it can be the manga.

The two things are not mutually exclusive. If yuri is defined by girls loving other girls then H-manga and doujins can be considered yuri too, and as a matter of fact they are.
I agree that girls making out for the sake of it don't make a story yuri, but there's at least a canon loving couple in VD, so there's at least that.

I thought yurifags didn't like it when anime pick the full blown yuri end, which is why many series only limit themselves to subtext, so why are there so many posters going against it in this thread?

You added exactly nothing new to the argument, why even make this post?

Shuuichi gave Kumiko a hairpin as her birthday gift, and that's it.
I'm sorry for /u/ but all the KumiRei teasing was just literal yuribait.

It's stupid.

If you're not going to make actual yuri happen in the show, then don't fucking bother.

This about sums up my feelings. I don't go looking for yuri, but if it's going to be there, it better all be there.

Bizarrely, I started to like seeing Kumiko more with Asuka by the end. I wonder if that was by design since Reina had become a fucking creepy stalker.

Reina was super cute in the last two episodes though.

This, I'm so tired of this "yuri undertones" shit

Half-assed shit is stupid. Either whole-ass it or don't even bother. I'm not expecting to see clit-bumping onscreen, but if you can't even have a line acknowledging that a pair of girls are lovers, then don't put any romantic undertones.

People complaining about subtext aren't actual yuri fans. They probably want to avoid it.

I like seeing disappointment in the people who expect it to go the way they want.

Was the actual Ga-Rei manga any good?

now who's pathetic
not the harem lead that no one likes

>falling face first into pantsu
>just bait

no