Was he in the wrong for slaughtering his clan?

Was he in the wrong for slaughtering his clan?

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What's the point in spoilering that? Noone gives a shit about spoilers from ten years ago.

Not even a spoiler anyway, its all you know about him for the first few seasons

No, but he was in the wrong for not finishing the job.

Well yeah. If the system requires you to slaughter an entire clan, you go slaughter the system instead.

Ninja Jesus can do no wrong

Fuck off Narutard

of course he was wrong, family is first, always

So Itachi was a civic nationalist instead of an ethnic nationalist?

You only find out his name and that he killed the clan during the fight with Gaara.

"ITACHI CHOSE MEEE TO BE THE AVENGER!"

why is he holding his arm up in such a weird way?

Even if your clan poses a threat to the stability of the world? The moment that Itachi joined the Anbu was the moment his primary obligation shifted from the Uchiha to the Hidden Leaf Village.

Yes, but the post that you're replying to makes it seem as though Konoha was at fault.

Spike dies

But his family and clan wanted to start a rebellion which would had ended with far more causalities and chaos.

everything would've been fine if finished the job and killed sasuke as well.

Part of the deal was that his brother sasuke will be spared to live.

He killed his clan for both the peace of the village and his brother safety.

It's not his arm. He usually has nails painted black and he did not wear those fingerless gloves.

probably, but is better than betray your family

He was my favorite character when he was a villain. When I learned that he was good all along I didn't know what to think, it made sense, but he was too good and suffered too much for the sake of everyone else. Based Itachi, the real ninja Jesus.
I almost cried when that happened.

Not that user but the Uchiha shits were in the wrong.
You don't support your family if they're a bunch of backstabbing cunts who are genetically pre-disposed towards being fucking degenerates.

Obviously, even though the writers tried to Gary Stu their way around by portraying him as Ninja Jesus.

Everyone involved was in the wrong.

Danzo was in the wrong for pissing the Uchihas off and relocating them, effectively taking away their power as the Konoha police force.
The Uchihas were in the wrong for wanting to go to stage a coup because they couldn't be the police anymore (muh clan pride).
Itachi was in the wrong for fucking with Sasuke the way he did and trusting Sasuke to not fuck his keikaku up.

But Sasuke helped save the world in the end. If he was killed then the world would've ended

He should have forced his clan to enter a counselling session for being retardly murderous for no good reason.
Poisoned them so they can't use their abilities or weaken them so they will be obedient during that duration.

Killing should be reserved as the final option, not the first since Itachi isn't an American character.

>needlessly tortured Kakashi and Sasuke for 72 hours
>he was a good guy guys!

You've misunderstood this situation entirely. They were still the police force. The relocation and the acquisition of being the police force happened at the same time during Tobirama's reign.
They we're given the job so that they would meld into society better by channeling their genetic autism into something very distinctly "Konoha" rather than Uchiha.
They were moved out of the centre of the village because they are still Uchiha edgelords and genetic edgelords minus a few exceptions which Tobirama liked IE Kagami.

Danzo relocated them away from the center of the village after the the destruction of the village when Obito summoned Kurama and the 4th died. They were pushed to the outskirts and the hokage building was built in the center instead.

Also they were decommissioned as the police and replaced by ANBU

Tobirama moved them. He explicitly talks about it when Orochimaru revives him in chapter 619

I don't know what fanfiction shit you're reading but no-one knows what happened to the police but I seriously doubt they were like "Fuck it, let's just no longer have police now that the Uchiha are gone. All the criminals died with the Uchiha anyway."

ANBU aren't PO in any way. They're effectively the hand of the Hokage.

Go watch the Itachi Shinden arc and get back to me, since you seem to be the one who doesn't know what you're talking about.

>anime shit of a novel
>the actual manga itself.

I wonder which one people should take as fact. Something written by Kishi himself or some third-hand shit who retroactively decided Fugaku had a Mangekyo that could control Kurama.

Which then adds to the fuckery that he just refused to actually use it during the crisis.

Naruto LNs are canon.

Not if they contradict canon they aren't.

No, it was stupidly obvious that was the direction they were going with Itachi ever since the fucking flashback in part 1:

>Sasuke says Itachi was a nice guy
>Don't see him for a while
>Other Uchiha come and confront Itachi
>Says he murdered Shunsui Uchiha
>Actually did... for some reason (Mangekyo Sharingan
>Only see Itachi and their dad confront once in an out of context scene
>NOW I MURDER THE FAMILY BECAUSE POTENTIAL

It's like Kishimoto was trying to pull a Nibiheim Flashback like in FF7 without even trying to hide to obvious jumps.

Bleach did this shit MUCH better with Turn Back the Pendulum because we got to see the actual multiple perspectives of the characters instead of giant leaps of logic.

No, in fact that was the one thing he did right. By far his biggest crime was sparing Sasuke's life.

So if you're born into an awful family of homocidal maniacs, you should just go with the flow rather than rise above them, because "m-muh family loyalty"?
The Uchiha clan were in the wrong and a danger to everyone around them. Being spared in the first war was far too merciful a treatment for them.

He single-handledly wiped out Ninja-ISIS, cut him some slack.

So how did that work anyway? Your entire clan can get killed preemptively before you actually commit the crime?

Also, how were they such a threat if a single person wiped them out?

Normally, I would say nothing justifies ethnocide.
However, Kishimoto wrote the Uchiha Clan literally as a bunch of people whose own genes made them born psychos.

Given that retarded writing, there's hardly any way to defend them.

You don't understand how much of a Gary Stu Itachi is. Plus he secretely had the help of a guy with completely bullshit, unfair eyehax powers.
AND it was entirely carried out via nighttime assassinations, nobody had a chance to fight back.

Two people. Tobi helped as well.

you can just leave if you don't like your family

I agree, that's what I'm saying, you shouldn't feel obligated to stand loyally beside your family even if they're horrible people.

but kill all of them, is clearly cross the line

They're genetically programmed to become psychopaths, and all of them were conspiring to overthrow the Leaf Village and kill the other clans.
No remorse.

>implying killing the Uchiha isn't the paragon option.

What the fuck are you even talking about? We already knew he killed his clan like hundreds of chapters before this flashback even started. It was never Kishimoto's intention not to make it obvious. He was just telling Sasuke's perspective about the whole thing.

How does a kid kill his entire clan?

element of surprise, pure talent, and a lot of practice

if one day my (hypothetical because i'm gonna be a permavirgin all my life) wife that I loved very much suddenly turned on me with killing intent, I would have trouble fighting her because part of me would want to believe that this is all some sick joke right up until she takes advantage of how distracted I was and kills me.

There was only one thing he did wrong and that was leaving Sasugay alive.

Would Sasuke have beaten Neji at the chuunin exams? How would Naruto have faired against Gaara?

The moment you look into his eyes you are paralyzed and then you die quietly.

Itachi Stu was more like THE Ninja God.
Naruto character is basicallly the Ninja Jesus though

>killed innocent children
>hailed as a hero

Are Itachi and Rock Lee the only based characters in this series?

Neji would probably win. Sasuke can't get past his defense. Naruto could just drop a frog on Gaara.

If he was really strong enough to kill them all there was surely a better option than that. Prison and/or talk no jutsu would've been fine.

No.

He should have killed Danzo though no idea why he left that asshole alive.

>talk no jutsu
humans are fundamentally irrational, has tanya taught you nothing?

no matter what you say danzo had konoha's interests at heart.

it was obvious that the clan was going to rebel.

chuunin exams Sasuke didn't have much stuff to Neji, blocking 1 chakra point would stop his chakra cuz he doesn't have insane levels or a bijuu like Naruto and Neji's rotation would fuck up Sasuke's chidori.
Unless it's a life or death situation or there's something for Naruto to prove, he usually jobs.

Itachi probably thought that Danzo would be beneficial to keep around for the sake of the leaf village.

>konoha's interests

He only had his owns interest in mind.
His entire character is what happen when you give into fear.
There was even a flashback about it.

If Naruto and Sasuke fought at full health who would win?

Why is this guy always depicted with a huge cock in Naruto porn?

Yes, he should have killed Danzo instead, and everything would have been resolved.

>Was he in the wrong for slaughtering his shit clan
No if anything he was in the wrong for not finishing the job and letting the worst and "coolest" Uchiha fucking shit live.

Yes. You can't justify genocide. What he should have done was exposed the plans to the general populace and worked to overthrow the people who gave the order.

>everything would've been fine if finished the job and killed sasuke as well.

Obito was a much bigger danger to the world than Sasuke ever was.

of course

You can argue the morality of his actions all you want, but at the end of the day he saved countless lives so you can't really fault him, he did what was best for his country and the world in general.
I will however fault him for joining Akatsuki. For a supposed double agent, he did absolutely jackshit to hinder Akatsuki. He didn't share any of the intel he aquired with anyone, he didn't kill any members when he had the chance (he could have killed Orochimaru and easily claimed it was self-defense), he didn't sabotage any of the group's efforts and he executed all of his missions flawlessly, including helping capture multiple WMDs needed for Akatsuki's grand plan.
Seriously, the Uchiha Clan Massacre is the only thing he ever did that actually helped Konoha. "He was the true Hokage" my ass.

>Itachi Slaughtered his clan

Wrong. Obito did 95% of the killing

>but at the end of the day he saved countless lives so you can't really fault him
That's not true at all

His actions indirectly contributed to the fourth ninja war by making Sasuke a psychopath who joined up with Obito. Sasuke brought the 8-tails to the Akatsuki.

I stopped watching Naruto a long time ago. I don't want this to be true.

He was a Cuck

>Sasuke brought the 8-tails to the Akatsuki.
And Itachi brought the 4-Tails to the Akatsuki while he was "undercover". Truly he was working in Konoha's best interests all along!

I think he only killed the police while Itachi killed everyone else in their sleep

he was the hero we did not deserve.

he was not alone. had help from the coolest guy.

No but itachi sure is in the wrong for mindfucking sasuke. He even admit that he is failure. There could have been other ways to motivate sasuke without mindfucking him.

His "if things are going wrong, just mindfuck people into doing what you want" plan completely fucked Sasuke.

Uh, I did remember it was Itachi who killed her gf .

He killed his mother and father because someone told him to


Remember the flashbacks of his power, how was she a villain? The way Kishimoto tried to paint him as an hero is fucking insulting. There is no way his actions made any fucking sense

They're equal and I'm not sure how long Kishimoto is going to have to keep mentioning it before it sinks into people's heads.

On one hand, he has the speed to actually keep up with Neji unlike Naruto who couldn't even touch him and he can just back off for a few seconds if Neji starts up the kaiten, on the other hand, he doesn't have a comeback option like Naruto does.

It's a tossup.

I don't know. I dropped Nurutu when everyone came back to life.

Everything was so fucking retarded. Orochimaru ded, Itachi suddenly good or some shit, Sasuke wanting revenge for getting revenge, his pointless team that never did anything, everyone having infinite chakra, art getting so shit that I couldn't even make out what was happening in some panels and so on...

>Sasuke wanting revenge for getting revenge

He wanted them dead because they organised the deaths of everyone he cared about.

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piss off

Hitler would've done the same.

Hitler ate sugar.

Yeah itachi fucked up

Nah. The only good Uchiha is a dead one.
His only mistake was caring for his younger brother.

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Tobirama did nothing wrong.

Reminder that this was the best fight in the series

Nothing else can compare
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there was no right answer. every option was wrong.
the best thing would have been to bail and move to a different country

He didn't die, he just lie down to sleep.

Was Sasuke the only kid in the clan at the time? Or did Itachi slaughter a bunch of kids and babies too?

>Itachi makes his former senpai suffer for 3 days straight by stabbing him multiple times per second.

Why was he such an asshole? Why not explain the situation? I'm sure kakashi of all people would've understood.