Is there any hope for America at this point?

Like many of you, I believed we were going to save America and reform ourselves from degeneracy after the 2016 election.

I have now realized our country may be passed the point of no return. I think many of us have realized that the degeneracy is much deeper and wide-spread than we had ever imagined.

Even when we elect Donald fucking Trump, we still can't win. He is being stonewalled by both republicans and democrats, and he basically has the world against him. There is very little chance we elect a big wave of pro-Trump republican senators in 2018 who will push his agenda through congress.

Now with the recent "Shitgate" media campaign, I would say there is a 10% chance we see any sort of meaningful immigration reform. Now championing 3rd worlders will be a key issue for the democrat party like never before, and they will NEVER budge on immigration reform. They would even sacrifice DACA before they budged on immigration reform, because that would be admitting that 3rd worlders are from shitholes to their voting base.

But on a larger scale, I just think that media, academia, banking, and the government is too corrupt at this point. It is much worse than we thought it was, and I don't think it can be reformed without a SERIOUS long-term effort from the general public. Which leads to the next issue:

Normies are pretty much a lost cause at this point. Most are just hedonistic retarded bug-people who want bread and circus activities after work and nothing else, and they vaguely believe in radical leftist beliefs. Even the average republican is a fucking retard who is basically a liberal from the 1980's in their way of thinking.

I think it's too far gone at this point. We're going to have to just wait for America to collapse and rebuild something new.

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America has been dead for decades. There is no saving it and believing we could elect Trump and sneak our way into saving America is delusional. Conservatives are cowards who have been to giving up ground to liberals for at least 70 years with no major victories to show for it.

Assuming you are a patriotic American and not a shill I would recommend you read white power by George lincoln Rockwell. This is the biggest red pill you can swallow.

Normies are too comfortable right now but that will change within the next 10 years when shit hits the fan.

White conservative Americans will not wake up until it's way too late.

It has to be right in front of Normies' faces for them to kind of start caring, but even then they are kinda apathetic.

Whites might wake up around the 40-45% mark, after they've lost a couple elections due to the demographic shift and extreme anti-white racism starts heating up.

It has kind of dawned on me that America has pretty much been dead since the 1960's. That was literally the end of America in every single way.

I guess it really was kind of delusional to think we could turn it around at this point. Trump is nothing but a bandaid for the inveitable, which is our government being taken over by degenerates, angry non-whites, and general nut cases.

We probably need to start assembling to build a new country when balkanization comes, but we also need to keep in mind that Russia and China are just waiting for us to collapse so they can take us over.

>Now championing 3rd worlders will be a key issue for the democrat party like never before

You don't see where that is going user?

wtf is wrong with her knees/legs?

There is no hope. We all knew the best Trump could possibly do is slow the path down. Equality is the liberal's religion. They won't let it go until it kills them. I fully expect us to pay the whole price and watch America become some non nation with tons of shitskins.

bow legged pose to trigger mating instincts

Not really. Just means that immigration will never be reformed

No i really thought Trump was going to reform things in government and that mainstream culture was going to drift from center-left to center-right

I had no idea how bad it really was.

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George Lincoln Rockwell is Reddit now. Fuck off kike there is no stopping us.

>muh reddit spacing

I've never been to reddit but it sounds like you have PTSD from going there

also,
>meme flag

Think about it this way; our national unity is practically none existent and race relations are very low meaning there is growing anger and instability atm. Everyday is another crack in the dam and eventually that shit will break, im fairly confident our country is going to tear itself apart and hopefully rebuild itself into something not cucked

Military emperor when?

Bumpity bump

Shills still post here? why tho?

Your Trump does more egregious damage to himself than the Democrats/Liberals could ever hope to do. I love it. The idiot just can't shut up. Keep talking asshole. MAGA for the Democratic party and the Liberal agenda.

>muh MAGA

There is absolutely no sign of the wall or any other of Trump's promises happening at this point.

Shithole-gate was pretty much the last nail in the coffin for immigration reform. I wouldn't doubt if the democrats leaked that themselves to try and rally their base and some of the cucked republicans against immigration reform.

This. I think it's obvious at this point that we can't allow another Presidential election until the shit hole that is our government is dealt with. No election is legitimate now. They will do everything in their power to undermine our system if governance and civilization itself.

Our democracy is broken at this point and it's set up so that it can't be defeated either.

You guys got a little too complacent this year.

One man cannot change it all, but if he gets two terms it's a step in the right direction.

The problem is we need more of him in Congress and that is going to be extremely hard given that not everyone is Donald Trump and has the backbone to weather the constant attacks, shaming and accusation.

There is also tends to be electoral reactions to Presidencies and the swing away from Trump is probably going to be steep, as the freakshow in VA on Nov 8th previewed.

The judge of the 9th Circuit Court also ruled the President cannot use his historical power to undo something else that was done by another President because "racism" during his campaign.

Open borders and multiculturalism is effectively a deep government policy put in place throughout our judiciary and government that is going to take decades of sustained turnout and work to undo or swing the other way.

Don't give up, but it isn't going to be easy.

You didn't answer my question.
Immigration reform is dead? Yeah clearly you are a smart person tell me more about this future world!

This. Everything is terrible now and the government is set up to fight against its own people. Why wouldn't we want things to fall apart? The way they are going now is not sustainable.

Are you retarded? Prototypes were just finished.

Every morning I wake up hoping to find the internet not working and tanks in the street. I believe it's going to happen at some point.

It's been a year faggot. Shithole actually is one of the biggest wins Trump has got. Only people freaking out are the people who hated Trump to begin with. It's a straightup red pill to normies because it's double-think to say they're not shitholes.

as an arizonian, thank you

What? I'm not sure if you're a shill accusing other people of being shills or just a retarded redditor

Explain to me how Trump can pass the RAISE act at this point.

>four small prototypes were recently built so that means a 2,200 mile wall is funded to be built

Do you live in dream world? Trump's alleged "shithole" comment (which didn't even happen) took place during a negotiation about immigration, DACA, and the wall.

Basically, democrats are not budging on immigration, DACA, or the wall, and Trump allegedly lost his temper.

They are never going to agree to build the wall, and if they did, it probably wouldn't be completed for years, which is enough time for democrats and other globalist shills to disrupt it the entire way and eventually get a democrat in office who cancels the construction of the wall.

Democrats are completely fucked. No good candidates. Trump can say whatever he wants and shoot someone on 5th avenue and won't lose a single vote. YOU GUYS ARE FUCKED.

Btw the tax cuts are worth more than everything. Legit pay raises for the middle class. FUCKED. F U C K ed

Shithole gate guaranteed DACA won't pass. Democrats are grand standing, won't even compromise at this point. Shithole was a Trump leak because people were getting worried he was getting soft on DACA. Use your brain.

>taking obvious b8

fucking newfags

And democrats are probably not fucked. If anything, they've proven they can run anybody and a bunch of creepy zombified weirdos will come out to the voting booth and vote for every tranny and big black momma on the bill regardless of who they are or what they do.

Our government is being filled with shitskins and tranny freaks as we speak, democrats don't actually need to run a good candidate anymore. They only need the rage of taking revenge against DRUMPF for disrupting the path to their progressive eutopia

Shithole was a half-win half-lose. I'm not even sure Trump actually said it, but it did stretch the overton window to the right anyways because media personalities picked it up and started defending it before it was even verified

It was also a half-lose because now the democrats are going to take a hardline stance on bringing in every shithole immigrant to prove there's no such thing as a "shithole" nation or something. I guarantee their candidates will run on championing 3rd worlders now, and their voting base will eat it up

wasn't it leaked by Dick Durbin (liberal cuckold) ?

Watch this. He makes a comparison between the demographic shifts in America to what happened in Haiti when the slaves were given rights.
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Just pray for Sanity to come back
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we lost it but, we can get there again

DACA won't pass because now Trump and the democrats will not negotiate an immigration reform in return for letting DACA people stay.

Now democrats are going to let DACA expire and then point at Trump and say "This racist bigot sent them home because he thinks their shithole people!", then their voting base will be extra outraged to get out and vote in the 2018/2020 elections.

It's going to be a stonewalled status quo all the way until Trump leaves office and we are still speeding into the depths of hell.

You still wont answer my question. Why?

A few temporary crumbs to hoodwink the middle class. You're just a pack mule for the rich. I say you're fucked dude. Democrats take the house in November. Full speed ahead with impeachment.

>Mueller is on the precipice of locking up everyone involved with the Uranium One scheme
>Democrats are about to agree to fund the wall and ten thousand more ICE officers in exchange for DACA
>Republicans poised to keep both chambers of Congress and add to their Senate majority
>Democratic voterbase dwindling each day
>Trump's approval rating steadily rising as more people realize how beneficial he's been to the economy
>Bannon rightfully exiled for betraying the MAGA movement.
>Trump's tweets are triggering hundreds of thousands of libtards each day.
>CNN's ratings are at their lowest in any point in history.
>RINO candidates being exiled in favor of pro-MAGA candidates who will make sweeping victories in November.
>The Clinton's, Podesta, and the rest of the pedo-elite to be locked in confinement possibly for the rest of their lives AND THE INDICTMENTS ARE ALREADY FUCKING SENT OUT.
So...how were we supposed to be losing again?

Dont expect a (you) from Op

Nope, all hope is lost, you """"optimists"""" are just ridiculous for believing otherwise. at this point i just visit Sup Forums for the bantz and not because i think we could ever be productful.

This is tick tock-tier hannity posting.

Absolutely none of these things are proven to be happening and this is optimistic speculation, probably from sources like Zero Hedge or something retarded like that.

lol quiet shill

>can't answer my question
>calls any criticism "shilling"

Go back to the President Trump General thread, they are more on your level

You're so cute!

I go through periods of caring and not caring, more so the later than anything.

I'd LIKE to see my beloved nation saved from it's fucking stupidity, but it is seeming day after day like that's just not going to happen.

Really, I'm just sorta beyond caring. I don't pay attention to the news, I tend to just keep to myself (total autist), this shit may very well burn down, but worrying about it is honestly above my paygrade.

America won't even be 50% white by the 2050. Even now its a relatively lost cause. Europe will take much longer, but it also might get there. Australia and Canada are already lost to our race.

Europe remains the last bastion for the race which evolved in it. I think we can gradually expect radicalization of Europe in decades from now which might led to purges or creation of different castes of society. But it will be entirely different from what Nazis did. Just like Communism and Nationalsocialism, diversity is a passing trend as well. And when it passes its going to get potentially very ugly for all that dont have European heritage. Whites will actually look around and start wondering what our ancestors did. If they dont falsify the history, that is, and claim diversity was always a thing. They started doing this in the UK.

I kinda gave up about 2 months ago

Normies are still retarded, even after all of the wikileaks from 2016.

The fact that the masses haven't woken up after ALL of this just shows me there is absolutely no hope. If you try to have a conversation with them and cite actual evidence, they start nearly squirming in their seats and freaking out, spouting out a joke they saw on SNL or something.

It's over. There's very little hope at this point. If we had the masses on our side and they were aggressively trying to overturn the government by electing pro-Trump people, I would say there's hope.

But there's not. Look at Alabama. Roy Moore was pretty fucking based, but the media did a big hitjob and got a fucking democrat elected for the first time in 30 years.

Fuck it. The libshits can just have it. Take the fucking thing, I don't even want it anymore. I hate my fellow Americans at this point and I hope the whole thing gets burned down and they get raped by hordes of brown taconiggers, because that's what they fucking deserve.

Your cog-dis is gonna crush you son.

Europe is an arrogant hellscape, and Europeans have their heads so far up their asses they will gladly accept being servants so long as the guy giving the orders has pink nipples.

That's a pretty cool painting

HOPE IS NOT LOST, YOU MUST NOT GIVE UP!
WORK TO IMPROVE YOURSELF!

But the bait was laid by Trump

I'd believe all this if your president wasn't actual moron.There's just no other words for it. He's digging his own grave and by doing the most hilarious thing he could've done - tweeting utter nonsense.

> democrats are going to take a hardline stance on bringing in every shithole immigrant

Moderates aren't Democrats. And no, normal people don't want shithole immigrants. Blue haired feminists aren't a majority block.

Least you forget that Fox News has record ratings and CNN has record-low ratings.

That's nonsense. Why are we arrogant?

He's not a moron, but our entire system is just too corrupt at this point.

What?

No my dad spouts all of that bullshit to me, about how HILLARY IS GUNNA GET LOCKED UP ANY DAY NOW TICK TOCK

Shit's not fucking happening. Boomer-tards said the same thing about OBONGO GETTING IMPEACHED for 8 years.

Nobody is going to jail. The globalists won't let that happen, because that would show that the system is broken, and they won't let that happen.

Until you rise up against the bankers and your political AND financial elite and simply have justice, fairness, accountability and transparency and INVEST in yourselves, then you'll simply become well wanked fat serfs.

>In b4 muh no want communism.

Liberals are taking over and ruining our country. Yet all liberals are pussies. All we have to do is fucking kill them. Amirite?

Do you cry yourself to sleep each night knowing that literally any day now, Mueller could pounce and ruin your employer's life? Do you cry yourself to sleep each night knowing that Republicans are expanding their base at an unprecedented pace while Democrats bleed voters on a daily basis? Do you cry yourself to sleep each night knowing that Republicans are going to crush 2018 and conservatism will continue to surge and guarantee Trump a 2020 victory? You should.

Moderates still like to have big gay circle jerks while telling sob stories about how their ancestors came from a country with nothing and made their life in America

They still love the idea of the 3rd worlder washing up on shore and getting to work! Because that's what America is all about! Muh huddled masses!

Moderates are just moderate leftists with 1960's values. Even Alex Jones has been sounding pretty liberal to me lately desu

I don't know why you have such grand delusions about Trump. His voters generally. You might agree with many things he says and intends to do, a lot of Americans do, but the guy is a slimey creep that would probably get off on imprisoning Clinton just to score another small victory. Complete egomaniac without class. For every thing he does right, he ruins it with two things he does wrong. Its mostly his utterly unattractive persona that comes out. Before his big win, I thought he's fighting as best as he can, this is just an overplay of his personality, but after he swore in it got worse. Except now it isnt funny. He's extremely emotionally invested in his petty affairs while ignoring the big ones and seems (and probably is) super indecisive and impressionable.

Dude what the fuck are you talking about

Shills don't actually come to this board you fucking dumbass. attended multiple Trump rallies and got attacked by a mob of derranged leftists at one of them.

I'm just being realistic. All of the things listed in that post are not happening, it is just desperate speculation from the same shitty "alt-media" outlets like Zero Hedge and maybe Infowars. But Infowars isn't even covering that type of shit anymore really.

Republicans have been losing badly, having literal fucking trannies, homos, and shitskins elected in house positions. We lost fucking ALABAMA to somebody who was actually based.

Quit being a pussy and man the fucking trenches. Die with your boots on, or leave ((( jew)))

I don't care if Trump is an ego-maniac or not (I don't think he is personally), I just care what he intends to do.

I do think sometimes his actions are dictated by what his base wants. He ultimately wants to end up in history books, so I think he cares about getting approval from his base, which is great.

There's really not much that Trump could or couldn't be doing at this point. He's stonewalled on every side.

We are 5-O in congressional races this year, and our victories will only continue surging in 2018 when MAGA candidates primary the RINO candidates and we make sweeping victories. Then we will pass the legislation RINOs refused to (i.e. Obamacare repeal) and conservatism will become the new standard as normal people realize Trump is improving their lives rather than destroying them. Democrats will have to wait a LONG time if they want to win another election, we're in for the long haul.

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thats a fucking brit with an l85 and nylon helmet, you dolt.

Shhh, pol can’t think of things in terms of economics, only race!