WAR SIM EDITION - RUSSIA vs CHINA, NO NUKES, NO ALLIES, COUNTRY vs COUNTRY, WHO WINS

THE SHIT HAS HIT THE FAN user, ASIA IS ON FIRE!!

The two main Asian powers come to blows. In this fierce battle minus nuclear weapons who has the advantage?

youtu.be/Td9DpSEc_5Y

everybody else

Bio weapons? Russia wins. No bio weapons, China wins.

by everyone else do you mean JewSA

Two countries with no hint of modern connection to Jews, somehow within 4 comments Jews are mentioned. Oh Sup Forums

>t. jew

Russia wins at first, with standard military

China wins immediately after a draft

The only reason the USA vs China is even a question is the us's naval superiority, without the logistical issue of ocean in its way, I don't think any 1 country is a match for China

we had this thread last night
fuck off

Of the US were to mobilize troops around China in sufficient time, the US could easily defeat China without a Naval presence.

The USAF, Army and Marines could easily defeat China, even fighting solely from China's west.

People vastly overestimate China, especially when compare to the US, it's really not even close

So it's basically good technology but with low resources vs shit technology with lots of resources?

Bio weapons: we all die
No bio weapons: China wins

If Russia wins the Airwar, then they can at least control china, and I do think Russia has a better Airforce. China's weakness is also it's system of government isn't quite as adaptable as a normal Republic or democracy. Long term I think China would probably still win though, way to many people.

This, when was the last time China fought a proper war? When they got colonised by the Japanese in the 1920-40's? They've got little to no experience of conflict compared to both America and Russia.

I believe the last proper war was probably against their own people in the late 80's.

>after draft
>implying you don't need to feed or heal those chinkchonk soldiers

Chinks simply don't have resources for full draft. They will suck logistically, but I have to admit there will be meatrginder on the frontlines. Tbqh all you need is to hit that famous Three Gorges Dam with missile barrage and half of the Eastern China will be flushed in ocean.

They fought the us in Korea and Vietnam

In both instances they knew America would have trouble killing at a 10:1 ratio non stop for an extended period of time

Same tactic Russia used in ww2 the difference is Russia represents a smaller country than it did then

And modern china's scale is unfathomable

I think the last thing mostly empty, China neighboring Russia would want to do is displace the Chinese people

Anyway, chink industry centers are also concentrated on the east, while russian are scattered across the country

russia easily
read a history book

Russia would win. China would have to go through Siberia and would get picked apart before they reached the West. Getting some of those east lands back might be hard though.

>invading China
>invading and holding China

"Modern China's scale is unfathomable"

Are you speaking simply population?
Because militarily, China's scale is 1/4 of what the US is.

It would literally take the rest of the World combined to compare anything to the US.

This.
I get so tired of hearing about how we're so imperialistic.
America could have conquered the world in 1945 without breaking a sweat.

The post said no allies
Americas only role here would be that we'd definitely sell arms to China, strictly for profit

The Korean War is an anomaly because UN forces were intentionally hamstrung from the outset by politics. China went full tilt while the US and friends had to pull their punches and not win so hard. SHAPE/NATO were screaming at the top of their lungs that Korea was a conflict designed to draw forces away from Europe which would quickly be run over by Soviet troops. No power on Earth could take on the US at that time even then, when you start reading into the industrial and logistics of WWII you quickly can come to the conclusion that the US hadn't gone full tilt. The US actually started reducing the amount of tanks we were making mid war because we realized it was pointless to continue, we already had supremacy in tank numbers.

> no good SAMs
>no anti-submarine ships
>High dependence on supply of resources
>All plants and research institutes are located in valleys of large rivers or on the coast
>HPP cascade at the Yangtze River

Defeat China is easy as fuck

No I was just responding to a post by another user who was touting China's military power. That post was partially unrelated to OP

haha

>Russia
Superior in all ways!

Russia by population is about a third of the us's population

Since Korea and Vietnam, China has undergone an industrial revolution, the largest humanity has ever known.

In this situation China is the wealthy country, with producing superiority

If numbers alone meant a win then China would have won in 1952 in Korea.

If you destroy the cascade of HPPs during a blitzkrieg, you won, because the Chinese industry will cease to exist..
If no, you''ll fucked.

>lets talk about muh wet dream conflict again
>muh retarded rules
>t.Pajeet
we got enough worthless trash littering the catalog

Russia wins no contest.
Possibly with just propaganda
China fucked themselves the same way the Jews did
China lied about tienamen square and others.
The Jews lied about the Holocaust
Russia pissed off group x at the commie leadership waits for truth to cause chaos then saves the day from their evil dictatorship.

China's navy had been building massively since 2010, they have the most modern navy in the world

Russia and America operate ships that are 10-50 years old(with loads of modern enhancements of course)

Point being, there's no way of knowing what china's navy is like, it's brand new

China has no Joint command.
China's military is rife with incompetent and corrupt leaders.
China's military is equipped with shitty cookie cuttier copies of outdated Soviet tech.
China's soldiers are hardly trained. None are experienced. Equipped with shitty gear.
China counts even absolutely outdated, obsolete tanks as part of their inventory.
New Russian aviation tech is on par, and possibly superior to US counter parts, which is vastly superior to the Chinese.
Chinks have no history of invasion. And historically, invading Russia has been a suicide plan.

And that's why the posts about bombing 3 gorges dint make sense

The Chinese people merely tolerate their government as a means of creating a stable platform to battle their way out of poverty

Without that China would be at least 3 countries that don't particularly care for each other and wouldn't even speak the same language by default.

China, through extremely hard work is gaining a sizable middle class, a large scale war would risk everything they've worked for the last 30 years.

Due to China's economic threat potential to the US. I'm certain we'd aid the Russians just this one time. Although it wouldn't be necessarily required.

However once Siberia defrosts in a few decades, Russia will have the largest chunk of arable land in human history as well as an even larger stock of natural gas/oil/etc.
Russia would quickly replace the long-held title by the US. Sucks man.

>Defrosts
>Global Warming
is that way. Wrong board, dude.

Russias official status to the us is "rival"

Chinas official status is "economic partner" we hit Russia with economic sanctions 5 years ago

We've sold a shit ton of military tech to China since the 90s, and that continues to this day

We would definitely sell China tanks and planes

Stupid hypothetical situation. China and Russia will only fight each other after they've destroyed America and the West first.

They are commie brothers whose ideals were attached by America. Chinese fought the Americans in the Korean and Vietnam war. Both of which were direct attempts to contain Communism.

Russia fought and is still fighting America in proxy wars (Middle East, Latin America, etc.)

Get back to us when China has at least one supercarrier that isn't a museum and doesn't have A FUCKING RAMP.
Also a strike group.
Also 800 bases worldwide.
Also modern warfare doctrine
Also joint strike command
Also a non-corrupt, impotent chain of command.
Also non-reliant on cookie-cutter copies of obsolete soviet tech
Also having a Navy that isn't primarily zodiacs with grenade launchers and machine guns.
A renowned Special forces unit

The list goes on.

I don't have time to argue something that you have no understanding of. So i'll just let you be blissfully ignorant :^).

>They are commie brothers

I suppose you have no idea how many military conflicts we had with China in USSR times

That stupid Youtube video is just quoting statistics from global firepower, which is a useless fucking websites.

"Hurr durr, this country has 11 000 tanks and this country has only 2000 tanks, hurr, the first country wins" meanwhile, those 2000 tanks are Leopard 2's and the 11 000 tanks are Shermans.

Global firepower doesn't take quality into consideration. It's retarded, the Youtube uploader is retarded for using it, and you're retarded for linking to it. OP is a retard. Sage. Fuck off.

I feel like you're comparing China to the us here, its China vs Russia

The only things that you listed here about China that are true are more so true about Russia.

You keep saying they use obsolete Soviet tech, yet they have their own design for planes, tanks, ships, utility vehicles, missiles(designed with us aid in the 90s)
Rifles, artillery, satellites, electronics

Almost all of it brand new, and ready for mass production the second the Chinese feel compelled to spend the money(like during the threat of major war)

>China's navy had been building massively since 2010, they have the most modern navy in the world

Now your LARP is just getting obvious Pajeet.

Cool 10 year old copy pasta Pajeet. If it would just not start with robjectively false claims someone might still buy it.

Russia certainly has a more capable and experienced military. Although that recent experience has been achieved by just bullying its poor neighbors and all. It just has a far more developed doctrine.

Who the fuck are you calling Pajeet, lmao. Remove the LARP flag also if you're going to call out LARPs.
Do you have any objective sources to refute any of those claims?

>Do you have any objective sources to refute any of those claims?
Yes.
Do you hve objective sources to proof all your claims you keep repeating in first place?(Thats a rethoric question Pajeet. I just told you it starts out with objectively false claims so its impossible. You dont need to run off to Google and desperately search for some "selfproclaimed expert on CNN had some opinions in 200X" links to pass them off as "objective sources" for you bullshit pasta.)

China makes large gains into Siberia, and stops to set up a defensive line (China only desires the mineral and hydrocarbon resources in Siberia). Russia, meanwhile, destroys infrastructure as they retreat, while rallying their forces in the West. Russia's intentionally sabotage slows down China's ability to supply their own forces, creating unease among the Chinese ranks. When Russia launches the first counter-offensive against the Chinese, superior, battle-proven forces (Russian forces with prior deployments to Syria, "Volunteers" from Eastern Ukraine, and Chechens) are able to rout the Chinese, who have little practical experience (Russia let them make they gains without much resistance). The Russian counter offensive briefly stalls when the armored spearhead (T-80s, T-90s, Modernized T-72s) have to be cycled back for repairs and replacements, leaving old T-72s and reserve T-64s to hold the line. However, these older tanks are still enough to make gains against the Chinese reinforcements, who are using armor largely based on T-55 tanks.

Air war is slightly favoring Russia. Both sides field very similar aircraft inventories, but Russia has ridiculous amounts of AA and more experience using said AA.

There are no naval engagements. The Russian Pacific fleet is either sunk in Vladivostok or is given refuge in North Korean ports in exchange for promises to share technology.

Tl;dr - Slavs win, but both sides suffer serious losses to equipment totals. Neither side is able to continue the war, with China having to worry about replacing their inventory before one of their many adversaries can make any moves against them, and Russia needing to recover their forces and economy after they war.

The out come is a status quo ante bellum, or at best a pyrrhic victory for Russia for repelling the invaders. The real winner is India, who will be able to buy equipment from Russia, who needs money, and because China has been severely weakened.

I mean we all know Pajeets struggle when things go of the routine, but how retarded are you? Just could have just typed your first point into Google before talking back and denying your ignorance like a typical curry nigger. The first page is plastered with Western sources proving it wrong.

China did not actively fight the USA in Vietnam. They did materially support North Vietnam, but not with manpower like in Korea. Vietnamese and Chinese weren't on particularly good terms. They fought a war between themselves shortly after the US left, and the Chinese got BTFO.

Russia is controlled by Jewish oligarchs