Soy doesn’t affect testosterone levels

Soy is perfectly healthy for you and won’t lower testosterone levels care2.com/causes/one-last-time-soy-doesnt-make-men-gay.html no reason to be paranoid it is perfectly fine for men to consume soy products.

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2834330/
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>soy
>has its own category of 'boy'
>doesn't affect test
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or idk, I'm a new-ish fag.

Lerk more new fat it’s on topic

>t. soyim

You dumb faggot. Soy is an estrogen mimicker. Even if your test levels remain unchanged and it doesn't turn the rest of us into faggots doesn't mean we shouldn't be fucking with our hormones if we don't have to.

>fills up all the estrogen receptors (but less potent)
As a male, your estrogen receptors shouldn't ever be all filled.

Lets say you had 10 receptors and normally had 2 filled with regular estrogen, soy come fills the other 8. You now have more estrogen than before, even if the soy is "weaker".

>East Asians consume tons of soy.
>East Asians are the most feminine males.
Really makes me think.

If soy doesn't make you gay, then how come for the past week, as I've been eating soy heavy Chinese food, have I bought a dildo and jizzed in my mouth? Fucking kikes, I know for a fact soy makes you a faggot.

No I eat a fuck ton of soy and I’m more jacked than half of this board

lying on the internet

False.

>soy is used as a phytoestrogen in medicine
>soy isn't a phytoestrogen

what

Too bad it tastes like shit.

That's a legitimate source you got there.

Fuck off, shill.

Your muscles are drawing the life force off your penis

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>2018
>not taking estrogen blockers

fucking fools

Kys, flaxboy.

Recommended me some yo

enclomiphene citrate, regular clomid works too. google geo peptides

What's a good one to use?

clomid nolva and androxal

Fuck you I won't stop being Sup Forums-trendy just because what I say is factually wrong

They're also feminine when they're born in countries that don't consume soy. And the Chinese breed more than your people.

o look, an authoritatie and scholarly article, back by experimentation and not some meme spout shit on Sup Forums to back up OP's claim, whodathunkit? ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224

You're seriously advocating people take 2 SERMs and some other shit? NOBODY takes clomid anymore. It causes depression and a bunch of other side effects. Ya it boosts your test like all SERMs but fucking come on man there is absolutely no reason to put shit chemicals into your body unless you are countering the effects of a legit AAS cycle. And if you think you can just take SERMs long term without consequences you are wrong. SERMs significantly boost estradiol so while you may be blocking the e2 receptor on breast tissue for example, you are soaking it up everywhere else leading to nasty acne and bloat and mood swings. Then you have to take AIs to bring it all down again which can be difficult to dial in without their own brutal side effects and toxicity.

It's just dumb, stop being dumb

Wowee, would you look at this? It's an even more scholarly study showing catastrophic reduction in testosterone levels after consuming soy protein. I'm so shocked

>WAAAH my endocrine system can't handle a lil supplementation.

cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/16/12/2795.long
Bro taking female sex hormone ligands is not a lil supplementation. I speak from experience. To each his own, but fuck off with your retard tier advice.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044663

>Long-term follow-up of CC (clomiphene citrate) treatment for HG (hypogonadism) shows that it appears to be an effective and safe alternative to testosterone supplementation in men wishing to preserve their fertility.

TLDR LEAVE KIKE SHILL

No

underrated post

Alright, get real here. I'm going on a diet soon because I'm a fatass. I've never consumed soy before, but is it really that bad if I plan on losing weight? There's a good chance I'll hate the taste anyway.

how fucked is soylent now that pepe is their mascot?

wow thanks you stupid nazi. now please GTFO with your disgusting ideology you stupid bitch

So I'm a kike because I think you're a retard? You're just too much of a pussy to actually "boost" your test with a real cycle so you take PCT to cope. Do you have hypogonadism? Jokes aside I've read those studies, I've taken Clomid nigger. I've been around the block. If you actually notice the boost from clomid then you have low T. There are better SERMs for the gay shit you are trying like tormifene. Regardless, they all significantly elevate your e2 levels and cause estrogenic side effects unrelated to their target tissues.

>One single subject out of a meta-analysis of 15 placebo controlled studies had lower test

Wow, let's throw science out the window because one dude didn't have the result that 99% of people normally experience.

They still eat the same shit they would wehre they belong ie. soy

Wow look another one that says it reduces DHT, a hormone responsible for important secondary sex characteristics and maleness.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2834330/
>Isoflavone supplements stimulated the production of serum equol and decreased the serum dihydrotestosterone levels in healthy male volunteers

most studies and meta analysis say it doesnt do shit, many studies are based on rodent testing anyway. You shouldnt concern your small canadian brain about soy unless your living off soylent or something

>tfw intuitively grasped use of soy to attain peak transhuman balance and a superior physical form like unto an gray alien

We already have a thread on how Soy fucks you up: But apparently trying to discuss how we can end soy subsidies (and sugar subsidies) to improve health of our country, reducing obesity and medical problems seems to cause people to lose interest in the thread.

Only a small portion of the body's test is in the free serum form. Most is bound in globulin
>The serum levels of sex hormone-binding globulin significantly increased

Hmmmm. Also the article literally mentions total testosterone doesn't decrease you retard.

They eat what's available to them. Soy based products were a rarity here up until a few years ago.

There's no integrity at all anymore in shit like this. So much propaganda and so much conflict of interest. We're at a point where you can barely trust shit unless you run the study or personally go over the data of the original source yourself and if you have that sort of time, you need to ask why do you have that time in the first place. We're reaching a point on the internet and the information age in general where everything that is currently knowable can be known by anyone, but we're also smothering it so much shit, junk data, "alternative facts", and "fake news" that you're just as likely to end up more retarded than you were when you started through misinformation as you are to end up enlightened.

i've been taking clomid for years now

would highly recommend

>and if you have that sort of time, you need to ask why do you have that time in the first place

Because I'm not a wageslave who spend every waking moment of his life doing everything BUT things he enjoys?

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Phytoestrogens and Disease: tinyurl com/hfxu23q
Phytoestrogens and Heart Disease: tinyurl com/zg2nh7a
Phytoestrogen and Kidney Disease: tinyurl com/jtwyanb

Soy yields 13% lower LDL/Bad Cholesterol Study: tinyurl com/hhf4weq
Soy and Men Hormones Study: tinyurl com/hsu4wqk
Meta-analysis on men, soy and phytoestrogen extracts: tinyurl com/ja5s9k2
Phytoestrogen content of various foods: tinyurl com/z3kpvsw
220 women over 2 years soy study: tinyurl com/z4tbb7d
Meta-analysis on 47 studies no estrogen change: tinyurl com/hsm6ctb
Soy being fine for men: tinyurl com/zwddamh

Think of it this way: An estrogen molecule is like a jumbo jet that attaches to the Jetway of an airport. It discharges passengers into the terminal, which is suddenly a busy, noisy place. Phytoestrogens, being weak estrogens, are like small, private planes with few passengers and no cargo, yet they still occupy the Jetway after landing. When phytoestrogens occupy the cell, normal estrogens cannot. Plant estrogens do not eliminate all of estrogen's effects, but they do minimize them, apparently reducing breast cancer risk and menstrual symptoms


ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224
>The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378106
>The intervention data indicate that isoflavones do not exert feminizing effects on men at intake levels equal to and even considerably higher than are typical for Asian males.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11880595
>These recent studies in men consuming soyfoods or supplements containing 40--70 mg/d of soy isoflavones showed few effects on plasma hormones or semen quality. These data do not support concerns about effects on reproductive hormones and semen quality.

I would be inclined to believe that Soy is bad for your testosterone levels except for the fact that 99% of whey protein shakes (one of the most popular choices for body builders) contain soy lecithin

>jacked
pics or bullshit

>fuk u gay nigger

Soy vey! The Soyim know!