Given by that Saber's Eclipse scenes happens after UBW good, do you think that Rin knew about this?

Given by that Saber's Eclipse scenes happens after UBW good, do you think that Rin knew about this?

HA is stand alone. It doesn't follow any of the novel's timeline meaning that the Eclipse scenes don't either.

This applies just on main story. Eclipses are clearly set after individual routes as some have even direct references of route events.

Why are they sticking their tongues out at each other?

Similar events can happen over and over again. Sabers scene could have transpired after a route similar to UBW though. Nasu has stated that nothing from HA carries over from the novel.

Essentially you are half-right. Timeline is variable so while scenes are set after individual routes, it doesn't mean that they happens in all timelines. For example Rin's Eclipse clearly happened after UBW true. But in anime showed epilogue clearly don't happened. However that doesn't change fact that Eclipses themselves are set after individual routes. And Saber's one is after UBW good. So although it's just one of many posibilities, you still watching Shirou and Saber fuck in timeline where Rin won.

Pornographic self insert plots for teenagers have never been so convoluted

Maybe their mouths hurt

Did anyone else think Saber's side hair was a dick they were both licking in the thumbnail?

Yes

Source?

You imply that UBW good isn't threesomes every night. Rin would be fine with Saber fucking Shirou as long as Rin remains the queen bee. Rin would probably have a few dyke-out sessions with Saber every now and again herself.

True. But still I wonder if Rin know every time when Shirou do it with Saber.

The sex scenes are non canon. The newer games don't have any sex at all.

You could argue whether or not HA is canon at all considering parts of it were written by third parties and there are you typical gag scenes all over the place that wouldn't happen within the setting. Obviously, everything in the original VN is canon regardless of what came out after it.

That implies NTR.
However, it makes no sense, as Shirou and Saber, even in UBW Good, didn't achieve such level of familiarity to have sex. Also, Shirou id too into Rin to attempt to do that. Saber would not impose on their relationship as well.
As one user said, the Eclipse scenes are their own universes, but they, in my opinion, have strong ties to the routes which they mirror. With Saber's scene, it was her turn to walk in on Shirou who was bathing, but in her case, her intent was deliberate and planned. She wanted to have sex.

Japanese people kiss funny.

Tongue battles are fun.

>That implies NTR.
It's not really NTR if Rin is OK with that.
>Shirou and Saber, even in UBW Good, didn't achieve such level of familiarity to have sex. Also, Shirou id too into Rin to attempt to do that.
Not really, you only achieve Good Ending if Shirou gets nearly all "Saber points", while avoiding many of "Rin point". Which you can do choosing mostly options where Shirou focus more on Saber than Rin. Which leaves him on position where he have similar feeling about both girls at the end. Only in UBW True Shirou has eyes just for Rin.
Also one of reasons why Saber stayed in Good ending was that her relationship with Shirou was strong enough to give her reason to stay.
>Saber would not impose on their relationship as well.
>her intent was deliberate and planned. She wanted to have sex.
In Eclipse, Saber intention was repay Shirou all his kindness, but way they talk implies that their relationship is pretty much formal. So it wasn't nothing deeper. And given that relationship between main triad is pretty much open in UBW, it just fit for this happen after UBW Good.
>As one user said, the Eclipse scenes are their own universes, but they, in my opinion, have strong ties to the routes which they mirror.
Essentially yes.

You have made some sound points, but in my opinion, it still has ties to the Fate route. Shirou is way more free with his image of Saber, as with his hands if you know what I mean. That's something he wouldn't be able to do in UBW, they were just friends. Shirou didn't go into her as deep as in the Fate route. Plus, there is this little fact that she is not a virgin, which she remained throughout UBW.
You could argue that they may have had time to get "familiar" with each other, but you can't know that for sure.

>it still has ties to the Fate route.
First of all, it CAN'T happen after Fate route in first place as Saber is already gone by it's ending. Only possibility is UBW Good which is only ending where Saber stays around.
>Shirou is way more free with his image of Saber, as with his hands if you know what I mean. That's something he wouldn't be able to do in UBW, they were just friends. Shirou didn't go into her as deep as in the Fate route.
Not really. In UBW Good she is pretty much same important for him as in Fate. Damn they even started flirting with each other before Rin arrived in that ending.
>You could argue, ... but you can't know that for sure.
I think that many things in Eclipses are obvious enough. But if you want doubt about them, do as you want.

>The newer games don't have any sex at all.
Isn't that more because the console/handheld games get cockblocked by Sony and the other companies?

This. Shirou is just a member of Rin's harem. She doesn't care if her two harem members get it on.

True, but remember that the Eclipse scenarios are still their own worlds and don't necessarily need to follow one beaten path. I, however, don't think it would be fair for Saber's Eclipse to be based on UBW Good when Rin's and Sakura's have such strong ties to their own respective stories. It's ok if you disagree. I stand with my point that it comes from a Fate route in which Saber decided to stay. I don't ask why or how. The Nasuverse is full of more ridiculous things.

I love when Rinfags tend to see Rin as shameless and promiscuous.

what happened in eclipse?

Eclipse is the segregated part of HA where you play the H-scenes and the one bit of the three girls who hang out together investigating Shirou's relationships.

wtf happended with this series? I never played any of the games and my only source of lore are the first anime and UBW movie.

How complex is the whole FATE saga? is it worth following it?

>is it worth following it?
no

???

The Eclipse scenes follow certain routes? Which ones follow what?

Depends on Eclipse.
But as said user above, most of them are sexual scenes descripting various sexual situations between Shirou and girls.
>Saber's Eclipse is about Saber coming to bathroom naked and intruding Shirou's bath with intention of repaying evrything he did for her. They then have sex full of passion and teasing.
>Rin's Eclipse have Shirou and Rin stucked in Tohsaka house during rainy day. Alone in empty house they decide remedy their previous sexual failures and make proper progress with their relationship. After total vanilla foreplay, they ends with actual babymaking.
>Sakura's Eclipse have Sakura inviting Shirou into Matou house. After watching cherry three in bloom, Shirou decide that he wants see Sakure to "bloom" as well. Whereupon they have sex full of hand holding.
>In Rider's Eclipse she lock Shirou in sexual dream where he have threesome with her and Sakura. Her intention was via dream force Shirou to pursue Sakura more activelly, but Shirou realise truth and reverse whole dream against her, and finding that Rider alone have feelings for him.

Next two Eclipses are non-sexual.
>Bazett's Eclipse is epilogue to main HA story, where Bazett comes to Emiya residence asking for accommodations, She and Caren then realise similarity between Shirou and Avenger and ends painting him with collor to make him looks like Avenger.
>Himuro's Eclipse is three part story about Himuro investigating secrets behind relationships between all characters.
Both those are primary humorous.

Most certain are Rin and Sakura. The issue of Saber and Rider can be discussed.

It's probably based in some alternate Fate Good End setting where saber stuck around. Don't think too hard about continuity in HA.

Given by implications
>Saber's Eclipse is post UBW Good
>Rin's Eclipse is post UBW True
>Sakura's and Rider's Eclipses are set between ending and epilogue of HF True.
>Bazett's Eclipse is post HA.
>Himuro's Eclipse is meta on HA level.

I believe that Saber has much more to thank Shirou for everything Shirou had done for her in the Fate route than UBW.

Sharing an invisible double dildo.

>It's probably based in some alternate Fate Good End setting where saber stuck around.
No, if there really was ending like that, then Last Episode ending would lose it's sense.
Not mention that implications from Eclipse itself speak for UBW Good or something like that.

In Eclipse itself is stated that she wants simply repay him all his kindness and everyday every day care, which is something that he in UBW do (and actually what give you Saber points in route). There is no implication that would suggest that whole situation is about something deeper that happened Fate. Also Saber talk with Shirou in very causual way. Which would be pretty unfitting, if their relationship would be so close as was in Fate route.

thank you, you save me a lot of time wasting.

To Kanpari Park, gentlemen!

We're all missing the important thing here. Rin got knocked up in her Eclipse, so when they get married will she take Shirou's name or will he take hers?

You say it as if Saber and Shirou didn't banter or tease each other in the Fate route. And you make it sound like he didn't care for her in that route. Also, from Shirou's perspective, he feels a much more emotional connection to her body, as if it wasn't the first time it happened. Saber also perfectly knew how to push his buttons.

Shes the last of the Tohsakas, no way she is letting the name die out.

Except for Caren's scene for some bizarre reason.

No bizarre reason. Caren's scene is important to the plot.

>You say it as if Saber and Shirou didn't banter or tease each other in the Fate route. And you make it sound like he didn't care for her in that route.
No, conversely. I just saying that way how Saber and Shirou talks to each other in Eclipse is not so close as they were in Fate route.

True. Her expression when she knew that she just became mother was just aww.

Yes, it's not Nasu without rape.

I'll be honest with you. I'm a Saberfag and I love the Fate route, but I believe that should Saber be, as you say, from UBW Good, that would be very unfair for Rin. It doesn't really matter how much points you get for Saber when she's not the primary focus of the route. In UBW the love interest is Rin. Saber is only staying because she's not found her answer yet, but she believes Shirou can give it to her. Of course Rin would get rustled if her man talked to and smiled to another woman. Saber knew her position. It was the exact mirror of Rin's position in the Fate route. For her to step out of bound and making Shirou cheat on Rin just to thank him would be completely out of character.

It usually takes more then one time to get preggos, Emiya's sperm is not that powerful.

Sakura is the wife tho

Why do you think?

>It doesn't really matter how much points you get for Saber
IT MATTERS! If you know what choices give you those points it make very clear, that his mindset in regard of relationships with girls is little different than in true.
>In UBW the love interest is Rin.
Actually UBW is not really so strict regarding love interest as other routes are. Shirou's feelings develops rather gradually across whole route here. Up to whole first half or route his feelings are splitted between Saber and Rin. And you can clearly see moments when he show his attraction towards both girls. But then depending on your choices he either shift his interest towards Rin (if you follow True), or stay indecisive until very end (if you follow Good).
>Saber knew her position.
In True end yes, which was also reason, why she decided to voluntary disappear. She got her answer, and see that she is not necessary in Shirou's and Rin's lives anymore.
But in True her bond with Shirou is strong enoght to give her reason to stay and continue her life beside him and Rin.
>For her to step out of bound and making Shirou cheat on Rin
As I said, their relationship in Good was more open. Even Rin herself suggested that it will be three of them.

Rin's "shotgun wedding" reaction essentially confirms that she wanted conception to happen. So if she failed, whole tone of ending would be little pointless.

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Rin didn't have to suggest anything because it was obvious. Rin was supplying prana to Saber and Shirou was to help her in it, meaning sexing Rin. There was no two ways about it. Plus, I find astounding the thought that Rin is just a glorified battery for Shirou's girlfriend. What happened to, paraphrasing, "fuck off from my woman, Lancer!"?

>What happened to, paraphrasing, "fuck off from my woman, Lancer!"?

It's weird how happy Lancer was after being told to back off.

It's because he knew that both he and Shirou knew Rin was enough of a slut that it had to be said, and found it funny. Shirou's lucky Lancer was a man of honor and taste, since Rin ended up confessing to Lancer anyways.

>Rin was supplying prana to Saber and Shirou was to help her in it, meaning sexing Rin.
He could also sexing Saber directly at it would be same.
>I find astounding the thought that Rin is just a glorified battery for Shirou's girlfriend.
No, Good End was pretty much natural polyamory. Which is very fitting for all three characters.

Wouldn't Rin be fine with her partners doing each other as long as they're both doing her as well?

Why did we never have a Rin x Shirou x Saber threesome Eclipse scene? It wouldn't have needed to be a dream the way Rider x Shirou x Sakura was. It would have been three people who are clearly all into each other doing it together.

She knew. They are both Rin's play things at that point anyway.

Didn't he find it funny he thought Shirou believed he would be into a girl like Rin?

He found it funny because Shirou thought Lancer would try to steal Rin from him.

Nah, Lancer had a full on trollface when she started trying to deny it.

UBW Eclipse scene must be the cutest shit I've read in FSN.

I almost wish to read a sequel to Rin and Shiro's relationship to know what happened.

It's pretty hot in JAV

Is there ANY place that has the CGs with the dialogue? I don't want to play this chuuni shit just for a fap

No, read the VN.

Maybe you should refrain from searching for an appropriate masturbation material in this thread

In other words Read the VN or fuck off

Ain't brilliant IRL.

Speaking of bazett eclipse that was supposed to be set outside of angry manjew's loop. We saw saber and rider still alive there right? So does that mean HA is a route where all servants are still alive and living a normal live, just like inside the loop?

>reading that trash

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What the fuck am I looking at?

This hits so may different points.

What could it mean?

You should read Tsukihime instead
Then play Kagetsu Tohya for extra porn

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The porn in KT and HA is so much better than in Fate and Tsuki. I've fapped to Len's scenes a few times and Caren's scenes a lot. Just the context of Caren's scene is enough to make me hard.

Toy wanted to fuck Kirei without feeling gay?

So you like bestiality, user?

>Kotomine Kirei's crippled albino smug priestess daughter gets roughly fucked by All the World's Evils, all the while hoping she gets impregnated

>crippled
is she?


also - daddy would be proud

Fucking Kirei isn't gay.

True, but still whole mindfusion of twins was still little creepy.

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In a way. Her body is extremely fragile due to constantly being injured due to her work.

Would he be proud of Avenger? He went full moralfag at the end there.

Its not too much a stretch of the imagination. Considering Fate's forest sex scene, Rin's more than happy to get Shirou and Saber afuckin', as long as she gets to watch and schlick.

Caren=Illya>Rin>Saber>Caster>Rider>Sakura>Bazett>Sella>Liz>Ayako

Hisui>Arc>Akiha=Kohaku>Aoko>Sachin>Ciel

kirei isnt against moralfagging, is he? so long as its not him being stopped anyways

Shirou betrays the band of the Hawk, sacrificing them to become a God amongst men.

Its the Nasuverse, in theory there is a route for every possible outcome.

Medea>Caren=Illya>saber>rider>bazzet>sakura=rin>sella>liz>ayako

ftfy

Holy FUCK more

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actually, that looks pretty hot

Since Angry Manjew is riding Shirou's body, would the DNA be purely him or would she get some heroic Spirit genetics in there as well?

Probably just Shirou's.
Then again HA's whole possession plot was pretty stupid and plain paradoxical at times. Not to mention it gave an excuse to all the new "god posession to re-use designs" in GO trash.