Okay Sup Forums, I'm not one of you really (Sup Forums and Sup Forums mainly), but I need to post this somewhere and this seems like the most appropriate place for it. Have to get it off my chest or I feel like I'm going to be sick. Using meme flag for greater anonymity/deniability.
I work in a factory. Big enough place, couple of 100 employees. I work in an office of like 20 people, but I'm rarely in office as I spend a lot of time on the manufacturing floor. I'm generally very personable. We get lots of deliveries every day, there are lots of external vendors/contractors and I'm often the one asked to deal with them because I'm good at small talk. I'm usually asked to deal with operators on the floor too because I get on with nearly all of them.
My standard lines of conversation are simple shit like, did you have a good Christmas, any plans for the weekend, just general banalities, but something a shocking amount of people just can't or won't do.
This new girl started in our office just before Christmas, moved from another building on site. She sits near enough to me, and she hangs around with no one, eats alone. I hate seeing people isolated at work, and thought she might just be shy, so last week I invited her to lunch with the group I eat with. She said no, so I guessed she was just busy. On Friday, I asked her if she had any plans for the weekend. I asked like three other people in the office during the day, and just asked her to include her in the conversation. She said she didn't, so I started talking about how nice it can be to do nothing after how hectic the holidays can be. She cut me off in the middle of conversation and said I was making her uncomfortable.
I'd already forgotten about Friday, but this afternoon I got an e-mail saying I'd been called for a HR meeting. My manager called me on my personal phone, and said he felt he had to warn me that a complaint had been made against me. He says he's given me as good a character reference as he can. I went into the meeting and they said that even though it sounded fairly innocuous, they'd give me a warning and investigate it further. They said I could go back to work if I wanted but my manager let me go home early.
I've been sitting at home freaking out for hours. I haven't told anyone about this. I've felt sick to the pit of my stomach since it happened.
Evan Hughes
Shameless self-bump. Someone please talk to me
Andrew Taylor
>This new girl If you’re calling women girls, you’re part of the problem.
Justin Myers
She's only early 20s. I'm over 30.
Dylan Watson
And man up and file a counter complaint.
Gavin Gomez
You'll be fine if you have people that can vouch for you user, don't let this dissuade you, being kind is important even if the world being the way it is now seems to act against you. Now you know not to talk to her and can go about your work day with a lesson learned, all is well.
Ryan Ramirez
I want to say that you'll be fine as you probably have tons of coworkers who will vouch for you.
Grayson Myers
no, hes fucked.
Thomas Hughes
I often get called a boy at my new jobs even though I'm 28 because I have a boyish face and I don't get offended.
Luke Kelly
HR here, seen this before. What you need to do is to simply ignore her. Don't look at her, don't talk to her, don't breath near her. Now what I would do on top of that is that at any opportune moment attempt to make her life as shit as possible without her being able to complain or know who's doing it. Also, go to your HR and report her for "workplace bullying" as that's exactly what she's doing. Remember user, "workplace bullying".
Grayson Kelly
Now you know you have to get away from weird women and let them relish on their loneliness, you dont have to be kind and helpful to everyone, I wouldnt be too worried since Im sure there are many coworkers who will vouch for you.
On a personal note, would you have been so kind and insistent with ther if she were a man?
Hudson Adams
Does that shit actually work? Genuinely curious
Michael Sullivan
Thanks. That makes me feel a lot better. I've been stewing this over, wondering if I fucked up by going home, but my head was spinning so hard leaving the meeting that I genuinely thought I was going to vomit.
I'm lucky I know ten times as many people as she does in the office, and if I know my manager he's probably telling people the truth of what happened on the sly. If I was a robot this could tank my career.
>a fucking leaf
Carter Hill
You're probably good. She's just an autist with no social skills, and since she's a female assumes everything simply MUST be all about her. Just ignore her from now on if that's what she wants.
The biggest danger now is people who aren't autists and like you will start talking shit about her filing the complaint, which she'll hear about and it will make her feel bad. Then she might complain again even though you didn't do shit and she brought it on herself.
Nicholas Walker
This is the unfortunate world we live in and it won't get any better till women are put back in their place unfortunately.
Women are a lot like children. They're rash and unpredictable at best, cruel and ignorant at worst. Just state your case and move on. She'll eventually kill herself and leave a note blaming it on the fact that no one ever talked to her.
I'm 38 and I just don't interact with anyone under 30s now. They've been raised in a retarded bubble and they're mostly shit people. Let this serve as an unfortunate lesson.
Cameron Thomas
Yes, I would. I have a rule of bringing any new people to lunch at least three times. I've been in that position a few times before and it's awful having no one to sit with. I think that everybody should do this.
Eli Robinson
She's retarded but a lot of people hate small talk
Hunter Young
This.
You'll be okay man, this is no reflection on you - The people you've worked with closely, that know your true character, will know this too.
Eventually she'll be known as the troublesome idiot that she sounds like.
People like her are social climbers, they have one track minds, and for her crying harassment is what she perceives as the optimum strategy to further herself.
If you talk about this with any of your coworkers only do so with the ones you can trust.
Ignore her, and maybe take some leave if you have it, let them know that you're a valuable person in their organisation by your absence.
The best revenge is success.
Aaron Hernandez
You know, your story kind of hits home for me, because reading your story, you sound just like a dude I used to work with. He was legit one if the nicest friendliest dudes ever, talked to everyone and asked how they were doing even if they were weird and kept to themselves, and imagining this happening to him is upsetting.
Eli Green
find her contact info, leave a recording of banestar on her voicemail
Colton James
It's making me really miss my old job. In my 20s, I used to work in a small tool room with a bunch of older guys. The closest in age to me was pushing 50. My overriding memory of the place is looking forward to my lunch break, because all we'd do is shoot the shit, tell funny stories, talk sports. I just remember I always left the tea room laughing.
If things really do go tits up here, I could probably get back in there, provided he has the work to go around. That'd be nice.
Brody King
How about you stop being a pedophile, op?
Blake Morales
As long as you report her for "workplace bullying" then yes. Make sure to write down and explain the story exactly as it happened. By submitting a false HR claim and attempting to slander your character she's bullying you for being nice. Workplace bullying is very vague and therefore very powerful. You must out SJW Feminazi an SJW Feminazi just like one must out Jew a Jew.
As long as they can vouch for you then you're golden. I wouldn't worry too much though I still recommend you go Machiavellian mode on her. Ignore but be ever present.
I am sick of putting up with these SJW feminist liberal degenerates and women. They're the cause of 90% of all the problems in the company. If upper management were to fire them i'd practically be out of a job.
Nathaniel Smith
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Nolan Hernandez
>They're the cause of 90% of all the problems in the company. If upper management were to fire them i'd practically be out of a job. Ya, I'd believe that. I'd hate to let this change me too much, because I don't like leaving anyone who's new isolated but maybe that's the climate now. Work is fucking hell if you don't talk to people though.
Blake Martin
Tea Room, EH?
Mason White
HR was only created in its current form because women in the workforce necessitated a babysitter. Women cannot successfully regulate peer group interactions without everything turning to shit. There must be an authority to manage them constantly.
Christian Cruz
It's crazy to me when I was in my 20s I'd hang out with older people too. No one cared and we all shared the same interest. Now that I'm older I really feel disconnected with younger people, not because of the generation gap but they have a completely different outlook on life.
I'm like you I try to be friends with people and be friendly and younger people actually look at that like it's a bad thing now. Like why are we interacting with each other eww gross you won't make me famous on instagram so fuck off. They view friendliness almost as an assault. Just look at your case.
It's sad how our society is just breaking down right before our eyes.
Sebastian Hall
What I don't get is why the report was in any way...."sexual." Did you touch her? Your story doesn't make sense and considering your seniority with the company in this situation, I have a hard time buying they went this far feminazi over fucking small talk.
Zachary Gray
As a millenial myself I can 110% assure you this probably did happen. Mircoagrression triggering are real to them to. It's beyond cancerous.
Jose Bennett
technically the laws here say "once is flirting, twice is sexual harrassment" but you have to be fairly overt and she has to tell you not to approach her in that manner again. but we are living in very strange times now. good luck. and stop being a pedophile
Nathaniel Ross
i hate annoying guys at work too, but in russia yo can't complain about it. it's sad
Dominic Torres
Women in the workplace were a mistake. I really hope she gets fired over this, or at least severely ostracised by her coworkers.
Lucas Cruz
I don't know what she thinks. I guess you could construe what I said as "come to lunch with me" or "we should meet up this weekend" but she said she didn't have any plans and pretty much all I said back was "that can be nice too"
I don't want to blame all young people though. If I have an attitude of "fuck young people" that's hardly helping things on the inter-generational communication front. I don't even want to take a "fuck young women" stance, because there are some really nice, bubbly girls around the office and treating them like shit by proxy hardly seems fair.
I'll definitely keep my distance until this blows over though.
Asher Allen
I don't know what the exact term they used in the HR meeting was. My manager said sexual harassment. Basically it was undue attention. She felt I was coming onto her and she had told me no at lunch that time, so I should have just never talked to her again.
I don't fucking know man. I'm really hoping it blows over and she just turns out to be totally insane.
Hunter Young
20 is barely legal. Stop trying to fuck "girls" perv
Easton Brown
but she did nothing wrong, don't you get it, you re just annoying guy
Landon Turner
just ignore her from now on she made it clear she doesn't really want to make small talk, so just honor that wish. her reporting you was pretty obtuse but whatever - just stay away from her. you didn't do anything wrong so you won't get axed or anything.
Bentley Flores
And this is get for trying to be nice to some bitch. I hope you learned the lesson.
Women in the workplace, not even once.
Aaron Harris
don't talk to women in the workplace unless you have to.
Aiden Jones
tldr; a meme flaggot gets what he deserves. i hope your life is ruined forever.
William Gomez
This is the first really negative interaction I've had with a woman in work, but there aren't a huge amount of them in my office. I deal with plenty of female operators though and I never had any trouble like this.
What outcome would you like, user? I know great scams to get folks fired or force them to quit.
Blake Scott
Should brief your boss about this and explain everything that occurred and you should be fine.
Elijah Peterson
>This is the first really negative interaction I've had with a woman in work
that's alright. Treasure this lesson.
Noah Perez
Mostly to comply with federal workplace regulations and civil rights bullshit. So now every company has a bureaucracy that exists only to make things worse
Thomas Roberts
Wrong board incel
Juan Bennett
Unironically end your life
Levi Martin
Don't do anything that might be construed as flirtatious at work. You should know this by now.
Lincoln Barnes
That's fucked up. I'd almost be inclined to start wearing a hidden camera to work because that psycho might accuse you of something again.
Anthony Sanchez
now you know why she was moved from the other building.
Gabriel Flores
And obviously you should never even interact with that cunt again. Don't even make eye contact with her. That'll probably be seen as a (((microagression))) though but fuck it.
Kevin Foster
This. If they're cool they probably approach you first. Don't initiate any kind of fraternization or even friendly small talk with a female on the job, especially if you're average looking or lower.
Adam Bennett
Kill her family. Make it look like break in robbery gone wrong. She'll be so cut up by that she'll forget the whole workplace harassment thing. May even get a sense of scale about what does and doesn't trigger her.
Do it, OP. you'll be helping her become a better person.
Jonathan Ward
The rule is pretty simple. Don't approach strange women who you work with, study with, have connections with. Don't shit where you eat. This is what feminism turned women into. Absolute cunts who can't handle anything and think every guy is always trying to fuck them.
As a 21 year old, I'm terrified of the dating world. I had a bad experience with a girl, so I've made an Iron Rule to never approach girls at University, Work or in any social gatherings where they know who I am and could track me. If I don't know how they will react, I won't even make any jokes. Don't try to be friends with strange girls unless you're sure they are cool and won't report you.
Funny enough, I was watching scenes from Dexter with Masuka and Debra. Shit like this would never fly today on TV. Check it out.
user, the truth is the truth. Nothing in what you said here can be misconstrued. If your story here is the full truth, then you are fine. Pain in the ass, but fine. You have a reputation there, she does not. If nobody has other complaints about you making them uncomfortable and has never complained before, then you'll be ok. She however may have a history of this. Do not say anything to any other employees. Avoid her like the plague or refuse to work with her, for obvious reasons. If they don't exonerate you, get a lawyer, just call one, they'll talk for free first. Can you ask HR to check with her references again?
Joshua Cooper
I've been thinking that. I was half considering asking around her old office about her, but I don't think it would be a good idea while this shit is still going on.
Carter Smith
You should have listened. We tried to warn you. You could have stopped this. Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.
William Moore
>got reported to HR for being a beta
Fucking pottery.
Aaron Parker
It's sad but you should do as the other user says. Don't bother yourself with women at work unless it's necessary.
They'll end up believing you're discriminating them or some other bullshit and resent you for that, but your safety goes first, you never know how psycho one of these bitches can be until it's too late. If they want to be accepted then it's on them to put some work towards being approachable.
Tyler Ward
People are actually starting to wear recorders in their shirt pockets I've heard recently here in the states. Isn't it fucked that this is what it must come to?
Andrew Bailey
How is being a friendly guy towards your coworkers beta?
Parker Ortiz
Yes do this. Ignore the shit out of her. But on top of that, keep doing your nice small talk to everyone else. If she is near by, even better. That way she will see how you are just a person who likes to small talk and that she was being an insecure piece of shit... Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are sincere in your description of the situation and that you were indeed not hitting on her...
Aaron Lopez
>just want to be left alone and do my job >normies will constantly talk about retarded bullshit >normies asking me about my weekend
I would have reported your ass too.
Jose Brooks
Ah you fell for the trap. Women who eat alone and don't socialise are psychopaths, they aren't lonely.
Jayden Anderson
POWERFUL.
Hunter Jones
I wouldn't keep pushing with anyone who shows absolutely no interest in talking to or interacting with the rest of us. I'm not retarded.
Just out of curiosity, why do you hate being talked to? Couldn't imagine going to work and just not talking to anybody there. I'd go crazy.
Jaxson Martinez
Have been a supervisor, and I can tell you this: You only talk to GIRLS at the workplace when absolutely necessary. You NEVER ask them to lunch. You NEVER have a personal conversation with them about ANYTHING.
Ever.
And don't listen to this cunt: She is a girl, and that's the fucking problem. Women are nothing more than grown children (girls) that cause problems. They should not be allowed in the workplace unless they are nurses. Even then, it's a fucking challenge.
Pic related. This is what daddy pays for when they get "higher education" these days.
Carson Nelson
Yea, it's seriously fucked up. I'm about to start my first office job next week with three females in the office. I was looking forward to it, but this thread is making me think again. I'll tread carefully though and won't initiate first contact.
Isaiah Reed
Ok. Wait. Op said you asked if she had plans, not asked her to hang out on the weekend. Did you ask her out or not?
William Edwards
oh darling, don't cry
Alexander Hall
Ignoring women can get you in trouble too
Colton Long
Just make sure not be weird about too though. If they approach you, be friendly and cordial. Apart from being approached by people they don't want approaching them, some women also absolutely despise men who keep to themselves for everything but strictly work related issues, and that also will paint a target on your back. It's a minefield, but keep in mind that the majority of people are just decent people, don't be scared.
David Johnson
>You only talk to GIRLS at the workplace when absolutely necessary. You NEVER ask them to lunch. You NEVER have a personal conversation with them about ANYTHING. Are you serious? The fucksolute state of the west. Talking to women without intention of fucking them is beta. I don't even see or acknowledged ugly chicks when they talk to me and the rest i try to fuck, get on my level.
Jackson Carter
This is fucked up
There are many women where I work and this has never happened even though the company is super politically correct
Blows my mind
That woman has serious issues
Benjamin Fisher
This is the only way. 0 attention unless is unavoidable, and then, only the professional issues.
Unless you live in a shithole like Bongistan where looking at her shoes is harassement (not if you are muslim).
... Maybe that's the sollution, shout allahu ackbar and tell them is your tradition.
Jayden Price
This.
Whatever you do, don't have any unnecessary contact with this woman. You cannot "fix" this directly.
Michael Baker
"We should meet up this weekend" Was your mistake. That counts bro. Sorry. She has a case.
Ryan Price
>I deal with plenty of female operators though and I never had any trouble like this. Yeah and most women of over the age of 30 aren't a problem, but it's still a risk. These day's you are basically tap dancing in a minefield.
Carter Wilson
>Ignoring women can get you in trouble too >Are you serious? I take that back. West should be destroyed asap.
Grayson Brooks
No you wouldn't and you know it. You would make the minimal responses hoping they eventually take the hint or lose interest. You'll do anything to avoid interactions, including causing a confrontation or reporting anyone.
WTF OP this is 2018, you can NOT! make small talk to females at your office....ever. I own a restaurant so I employee a lot of females. The only time I talk or look at them is when I tell them what they need to do. If I find I'm in a room alone with one I leave immediately. Sounds crazy, but they get the point. And, they usually leave me the fuck alone. Its sad, but this is how it is now.
Tyler Reyes
Welcome to the dark side, we have cookies. I get it, you're just being a decent bloke, welcoming the newcomer and all that rot. And good on You! But that isn't the 21st century. If you go on being perfectly civil, you're going to get perfectly arsed. Keep being a good bloke to people who appreciate it, and to all men, that's fine. But birds, these days, birds have to be watched with a jaundiced eye.
Chase Moore
Lawyer up, sue the shit out of the company for letting the complaint get that far. It’s harmless conversation.
Jackson Diaz
Thanks for the advice. I will fuck with them a little if they turn out to be liberals though. It should be fun.
Noah Johnson
I think the basic suggestions here are the way to go. Do not talk to her again. Don't do anything that has to do with her, no contact.
Heck, it may even be that she felt it was legit.
So leaving her alone is the best and safest thing for you as well as the best thing for her - it is what she wants.
I would also echo the advice though of continue being 'you' around everyone else. Don't change.
But, in the future, keep this episode in mind. Be a bit more cautious of new female employees and female employees in general. At the slightest pushback, back off. Leave them alone. Let someone else be the one that makes that first contact. Let someone else invite them to the group. It just isn't worth the risk.
Logan Davis
Na, be friendly. Introduce yourself and make some small talk.
No need to let bitches of the world turn you into some sort of weirdo.
Brandon Wood
>Join ISIS >The West Must Be Destroyed >White Sharia NOW!
Jeremiah Roberts
>Didun du nuffin I don't even believe you. You got warned, next time it's the genital cuffs. I have to deal with the stupidest shartiest employee crap that you couldn't even make up. What I've learned is this - proles lie. I'd fucking GPS you if I were your boss. Make sure you're not spending too long in the bogs after talking to female employees. Bottom line, It's not where you should be cruising.
Charles Campbell
Look where that got you!
Logan Reed
THIS H I S
Josiah Sanders
I didn't say that though. I asked if she had any plans. I think that was the meaning she took from it though.
I don't generally meet up with colleagues outside of work. I have friends for that.
Logan Green
Link isn't working for me, what were you trying to show me?
Carson Thompson
Be careful. Offices are dangerous places with women. They half fucking work, gossip fucking constantly AND would LOVE any fucking payoff.
If they are liberal just ignore them. Specially around November when they start bitching about how they are working for free because of the gender pay gap nonsense.
Levi Stewart
Welcome to Sup Forums user. Get out before you reconcile with the race realist you had inside all along and start understanding how wise were those witch burnings of old.
Brandon Gray
Don't fucking do that. There's nothing more cancerous in an office than politics, even if it's brought up lightheartedly.
If it's guys, talk about sport. If it's women talk about tv shows. Don't be "that guy" or no one will talk to you.
