Éire/pol/ - Leo "European Unionist" Varadkar edition

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>Harris opens 'historic' debate on Eighth Amendment proposals
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>EU at a decisive point in its future - Varadkar
rte.ie/news/2018/0117/933878-taoiseach_europarl/

>Taoiseach in apology 'on behalf of State' to Joanne Hayes
rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0117/933968-joanne-hayes/

>Taoiseach to outline personal position on abortion when referendum wording is published
independent.ie/irish-news/politics/taoiseach-to-outline-personal-position-on-abortion-when-referendum-wording-is-published-36499350.html

>Fianna Fáil to fight for pay restoration in hospices
independent.ie/irish-news/politics/fianna-fil-to-fight-for-pay-restoration-in-hospices-36497100.html

>Sinn Fein MP claims proposed new electoral map for Northern Ireland akin to unionist gerrymander
independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-mp-claims-proposed-new-electoral-map-for-northern-ireland-akin-to-unionist-gerrymander-36500073.html

>Gerry Adams launches bid to have his convictions for trying to escape internment overturned
thejournal.ie/gerry-adams-appeal-3801283-Jan2018/

>Farage brands Varadkar a 'European unionist' as he attacks Irish relationship with EU
thejournal.ie/varadkar-strasbourg-3801559-Jan2018/

>Taoiseach asked to send 'message of support' to Meath village worried about 'Scientology centre'
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Make them proud

posting gearoid until we get a good fashy 32 county republic

First for the high king, why are ye not monarchists yet lads?

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fuckin hell lad

Was discussing the Assembly's recommendations today. The consensus among us was that the voting age should, if anything be raised, not lowered. I know no politically informed 16 year olds.
I'd set my clock by ya but it was late last night
Gway James.

to the bitter end boys

I don't mind lowering it, but only if it's based on achieving some minimum grade in CSPE.

Get in here Fenians

you know you're autism has reached its peak when you're being compared to this faggot

I would gladly support an Irish monarchy if we either found the rightful heir to Boru or somehow organised clans out of the existing Irish people and they would choose the high king from the best amongst their number.
Gets the job done doesn't it
Fuck lowering the age people seem to think more votes is better but I have always thought what good is someone's vote if they don't care in the first place, it's fine as is and hell raising it would do no harm either.

This could actually be 10D chess because of how many idiots would vote to repeal the 8th just because of a "Fuck the church!" attitude.

I still can't get over the Jacobite Bonnet in his pic

because we don't have any legitimate line and republican dictatorship is better is generally better anyway

>select from a pool of the monarch's family
or
>select from a pool of the brightest in the nation no matter social class

easy choice, monarchism just lets idiots into power. just like at tsarist russia: the monarchy was so horrible the people turned to communism to stop a mad man with mystical powers ruling them

Based farage, buzzing for irexit talk

In fairness our old method for selecting a high king was rather good and the fact that he was more of a legal authority than anything else kept him from going apeshit was nice too. if we were to reinstate a monarchy I would want it to be merely symbolic if it were hereditary and to be equal to the president if it were selected from a newly created and reorganised clan system like I mentioned earlier.

monarchism isn't inherently royalism

I assume peoples' IPs have changed and there's been a bit of double voting. Pic related is what we've got, apparently

I was talking about big JR
This. I understand respect for and interest in the nation's history but the monarchist/druid/viking larping is beyond me.
Dress code? (Post it bois)

That's twice now I've seen Syrians trotted out on the news.
"Stories of the success of Syrian Immigrants across Europe" me fucking arse.

I agree, Hugo Ricciardi O'Neill is the rightful king of Ireland, the last High King of Ireland (Brian O'Neill in 1258) and the leaders of the last monarchical rebellions (the Nine Years War and the 1641 Rebellion) in Ireland were all O'Neills.

> found the rightful heir to Boru
Fuck no, that line is well tainted, the O'Briens fought for the English in many wars including the Nine Years War.

Well there we go that leaves the other option which is the only one I am really interested in.

Would prevent little goblins like Higgins being president

As nice as it would be to crown Hugh, has he ever shown interest in the concept himself?

>dress code
Dis

Nevermind just did some searching about and he is officially chief of the O'Neill clan currently that's a start

He wrote to a US senator once proposing an independent Ulster with an O'Neill king: books.google.co.uk/books?id=NOMQjt4-RTEC&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129#v=onepage&q&f=false

>independent Ulster
>Ulster
>independent
But in all seriousness I am glad he at least cares about his blood that much

>Hugo Ricciardi O'Neil
some portuguese nigger probably never stepped foot in west belfast in his life

this man will never be accepted

nice image CC

ft.com/content/022de0a4-54f4-11e7-9fed-c19e2700005f
Etc. RTÉ?

>stepping foot in belfast at all
Got that from the upcoming Total War game here you go
youtu.be/-Fu0UPnk4kc

WAS IT FOR THIS THE WILD GEESE FLED?

the war is over
they have to go back and rebuild their country

This. If you had an extended royal family populated with people raised to rule, and then had the monarchy itself be counterbalanced by other institutions, such as a parliament, national religion and possibly some sort of capitalist's guild, you could have a very effective country.

The trick is to not give the normies too much freedom (because they'll fuck it up), but still ensure that no corrupt dipshit at the top ruins it for everybody.

you said Total War

They were never refugees to begin with, once they leave the safest country in proximity, they’re economic migrants

RTÉ yea, some halal baker and the last time was a violin maker.

...

Nah, hes disinherited like most of us.
Besides you not sure there's another subject closer to home.
Two kings die a few years apart and Edward takes over whilst the plague takes Europe, funny thing.

>tfw crow didn't refer to the Morrígan....

Still looks good tho.

>capitalist's guild

Checked and also this, actual refugees stayed fairly close to home in either safe parts of Syria or other middle eastern countries I suspect the ones that come over here mostly consist of people opposed to Assad and pricks looking for money likely both at the same time.

>some men can only be pushed so far

That sounds awfully familiar.

strewth, and the ones opposing Assad are more than likely fundamentalist to boot

It means that (((they))) can only engage with the system through one channel, and will never outnumber the people living in the country, who will have access to every channel.

Control the opposition.

Some naked feminist protesters I hope might see a bit a tit

Tommy Robinson should have been arrested and held in jail in the Republic for a long time.
Paisley Jr. has fuck-all sway, his father was pushed out of the Party and they've since had two leaders. He was not a major contender in either power struggle.I find it amazing that he is still involved with the DUP considering how they treated Paisley and his religion. You'd think he would have fucked off to TUV.

This outcome was ruled out as an impossibility under the terms of the GFA.
However, it was actually the proposed solution of the UDA (the largest Loyalist paramilitary) and their political representatives the Vanguard Party (which was the largest Loyalist political party during most of the Troubles, but has since been forgotten for some reason).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguard_Unionist_Progressive_Party

I am aware things are strange as always on our fair isle

Oy vey! I hear you're an Anti-semite now Father

Careful now! etc.

I hear you’re a Catholic...Father

>Sinn Fein MP claims proposed new electoral map for Northern Ireland akin to unionist gerrymander
independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-mp-claims-proposed-new-electoral-map-for-northern-ireland-akin-to-unionist-gerrymander-36500073.html

So lads what do you think will come of this lark? I have my doubts that it will happen but it changes a lot if it does go ahead.

You came to the wrong neighbourhood proddie

The major issue I have with that movie is that Liam Neeson is not in it for any bit near as long as he should have been

WAIT, NO!

I-IT WAS JUST A PRANK!

This

Where did it go wrong lad

He's a national treasure but it makes sense the character was irish, he can't do a burger accent, not as bad as Julia Roberts in the Michael Collins film of course.

>Solidarity-People Before Profit
Limerick City
Dublin Bay North

>Sinn Féin
Donegal
Wexford
Westmeath-Longford
Dublin West
Galway West
Tipperary
Cavan-Monaghan

At least 9 new seats will be ours in the Republic, to the direct detriment of FF, FG and Labour.
Perhaps we will win more, a Direct Strike to the health of the Ruling Parties.
The future is looking good.

full house
the yank speaks the truth

>2021

I wouldn't even try to predict the weather that far in the future, let alone the political climate these days...

So me and my Danish girlfriend are going to be moving to Ireland soon.

I've lived in England all my life, but my ancestry is Irish, and I look fairly Irish, green eyes, reddish hair, but my accent is very English. Will I be accepted into Irish society?

You're being a bit to optimistic. A lot of people are wising up to SF and the left.

LADS WE HAVE TO translate the pepe meme of
why did you make me do this, i only wanted to play video games
translated to gaeilge

You'll be fine. Maybe a little to white for some of the nutty west-brits if your moving to Dublin though.

crows have to go back

...

Did you see adams in the dáil today? Said the constitution was out of touch, you're a bunch of traitors that's all you are, irrelevant traitors.

they all have to go back
please think of all the skills and resourcefulness they have to offer their home country to rebuild

You'll always be seen as English though with that accent

desu I would scrap the constitution as well and put create a new one that would ensure what we see today NEVER happens again

Why not live in Denmark?

Because I wanted to annoy YOU, only YOU.

hahaha

It's got a better quality of life than ireland, are you just too lazy to learn the language?

cén fáth a chuir tú draiocht orm nazi a bheith
ni raibh fonn orm as video-games a imirt

i agree with this,
lads out generation has made a shithole out of europe,
we have to fix it in our life-time
not pass it on to the next generation

Wait, what? To where? Tír na Crowg?

>they all have to go back
Like that will ever happen. Also, I amn't really referring to Jews with the echo brackets, but all the people who would fuck things up for everyone else (a lot of those people happen to be Jews ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ).

And even if Jews were the only problem, when had genociding a population ever actually removed them. The Romans tried it with the European Celts, and failed. The brits tried it with us, and failed. I don't know how many people have tried to shoah the Jews, and they keep coming back like those shitty RSA ads.

Protect your system from dickheads. It's the only way.

I'd only do it if we were replacing the state. I was never convinced on the idea of a republic. The republic was the system of the Romans, not the Celts. Surely we should use our own philosophy when forming our own system of governance?

>I wouldn't even try to predict the weather that far in the future, let alone the political climate these days...

My predictions are solid, I have strong probability skills. I have a Paddy Power account, and I've made over 400% of the money I invested into it.
Just look at the constituencies I have made these predictions from

>S-PBP
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerick_City_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Bay_North_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election

and Sinn Féin
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donegal_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wexford_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longford–Westmeath_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_West_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galway_West_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipperary_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavan–Monaghan_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election

Keep in mind that Cavan-Monaghan has been expanded to 5 seats by the Boundary Commission for the next election.

Our scalps include Jan O'Sullivan (LAB), Finian McGrath (IND), Paul Kehoe (FG), Penrose (LAB), Joan Burton (LAB), Hildegarde Naughton (FG), and Alan Kelly (LAB).

The future is very predictable, if you know what information to look for.

>I'd only do it if we were replacing the state. I was never convinced on the idea of a republic
YES
Fuck republics

>My predictions are solid, I have strong probability skills.
Piss off you pretentious git

>My predictions are solid
>The future is very predictable, if you know what information to look for.
>SF
>PBP
>Predictable

SF is the least stable main party in Irish politics, and almost always fractures in times of upheaval (read Brexit and Populist Uprising).

As for PBP, I don't even know what their name is going to be tomorrow let alone if they're going to be around in 2021 XD

>Le Lenin quote.

Methinks this one needs a helicopter ride...

Oh Soothsayer so wise! Tell us the winning numbers for the Euromillions and we shall be forever in your debt!

>Said the constitution was out of touch

Damn right.
It was the Constitution which led de Valera to say that Ireland was a "Catholic country". This infuriated the Unionists and led directly to the phrase "a Protestant Ulster for a Protestant people".
Many people do not realise that the Loyalist working class actually voted left-wing before those days.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland_general_election,_1958#Results

As a direct result of this Constitution, Sectarianism became entrenched in the voting patterns of the Loyalists. Ian Paisley himself stated that if the Constitution of the Republic was abolished,that many Unionists would be open to a United Ireland.
Not only is the Constitution outdated today, it was outdated when it was first drafted and was simply an extenuation of Dev's Economic War against the Brits. Gerry is 100% correct.

>Damn right.
>It was the Constitution which led de Valera to say that Ireland was a "Catholic country". This infuriated the Unionists and led directly to the phrase "a Protestant Ulster for a Protestant people".
>Many people do not realise that the Loyalist working class actually voted left-wing before those days.
I think I just got AIDs

>Ian Paisley himself stated that if the Constitution of the Republic was abolished,that many Unionists would be open to a United Ireland.
Considering how stubborn Unionists are, I doubt that. They'd just find another reason to be opposed.

>SF is the least stable main party in Irish politics

In the North? Yes, their support base is unpredictable from one election to the next.
However, in the Republic, their support typically increases a solid 4% each time (with the notable exception of 2007). In the next election, you can expect them to receive around 18% of FPVs.

With S-PBP, National polls are largely irrelevant as they do not have a National grass-roots.
It is likely that their support will grow in their Home Constituencies, especially considering Labour support will drop.

I obviously cannot predict the lotto, however when the GAA league starts up I can give you some damn good suggestions. I make a killing in my GAA bets.

He is a pro-abort faggot. Literally shilled for repeal of the 8th.

He stated this when he was old and started to soften up during the Peace Process

>le 56% plastic paddy hears about the reality of mid-20th Century Ireland and is throwing up on his stretchband tracksuit bottoms

Everybody in your country already has an STD, why should I care if you have AIDS

They are successful business people and we are wastes of space. Fuck.

Soon enough I'll make a unity game though. That'll show them.

So what, we are Catholics, we suffered. we can't control what goes on in the heads of planters. It doesn't mean that Adams is right in what he said, how is sf the republican party when they shite talk the fucking constitution. Just stop talking you brainwashed cuck.

>He stated this when he was old and started to soften up during the Peace Process
>started to soften up
and this matters?

didn't protestants throw a bomb into a catholic playground full of kids the day news of the treaty signing came out? And all that shit that took place in the following spring, like the water St.(?) Massacre, that was all stemming from the constitution, nothing else?

West brit commie fag?

>So what

So What is that you cannot administer a United Ireland under religious supremacy.

Dev did not endorse this Constitution as a form of Liberation, it was drafted to purposefully stick it to the Brits. This directly led to a deterioration of relations in the North of Ireland and the subsequent delay of a 32 County Republic.

I am not operating from a disposition of antagonism, I am simply observing history as it occurred. I was an Alter Boy as a child, I believed strongly in Catholicism.
The Constitution was a purposeful Power Move against the Prods of the North-East and it is right to remove such legislation in order to achieve a 32 County Republic.

Those boys will hate us anyway, better to be ourselves, we were given penal laws simply for religious association.
It's OUR country, we can do what we want.

But tell me, since you're all for appeasing protestants, how your mp mocked the protestant victims of a deadly massacredelaying the reconvening of the northern ireland assembly in the process. It's coming straight from the horse's mouth tbqh.

I am not aware of such events occurring. I naturally despise the like of Michael Brown, however I support the establishment of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission so that the Past can be placed firmly in the Past

>West brit

First time I've been accused of this, congratulations.

>I’m not aware of the spring of 1922

Are we actually lowering the voting age then?

Damn, it's getting windy out there, pic related is from the bad one we got recently.

It was a suggestion made at the citizens assembly