Degeneracy

I hear a lot of people using this word, calling things degenerate or pointing out behaviors as degeneracy. But it doesn't seem like there's much agreement on the meaning.

Some people (Milo and many others, for example) seem to think that homosexuality is a-okay, so long as it doesn't come with idpol and is in the classical greco-roman style of glorifying the male form. Sure, I can understand that. But then, others shout that any gayness at all, as well all talk about gender, and NEET-ness is all degeneracy.

Is it just a shorthand for anything you don't like? Is it meant to be comparing things to some imagined perfect post-war era? Or is it just a dogwhistle?

Genuinely curious here.

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"degeneracy" means "things i dont like"

how can there not be an agreement on a words definition

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>Is it just a shorthand for anything you don't like?

Specifically it refers to things people are having fun doing that you don't like

Mainly used by LARPers and/or unironic 14yos who just found pol

dont do anything jesus wouldn't do, aside from making babies of course.

someone ban this faggot already

Degeneracy is non-productive, self-sabotaging, selfish, reprobate behavior. That which does not build up is degenerate.

This, it's a sensation.

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Because it's a relatively new definition used in specific, non-mainstream subcultures. Dictionaries take time to catch up.

See, that's kind of the sense I got.

So I'm allowed to attack moneylenders, get thrown in jail, hang out with prostitutes and the poor, preach against the rich, etc.?
Jesus' actions were kind of out there, guy.

Could you give some examples so I can see what you mean? What's very degenerate vs. a little degenerate?

It's anything that degrades the moral fabric of society like greed, hedonism, criminality, gluttony and decadence. Really lack of self control in any part of your life.

define: degenerate; came about in the late 15th century. not a "new word", newfriend

I said
>relatively new definition
Not a new word. The way your average Sup Forumstard uses the word barely fits with the definition, and has a strong connotation not included.

so because people use a word incorrectly, it automatically changes its definition? not an argument

>pissing on the side of a road and allowing some to take a picture of you.
Yea I guess im just a virgin who subconsciously wishes i could do the same.

>I don't understand anything about the evolution of language or linguistics
>the post
Does "gay" mean the same thing now that it did 200 years ago? People change the way they use words, then dictionaries update to reflect the change in language, dumbass. They don't put out new editions telling people that "computer" means a machine that does math, instead of a person that does math this year.

gays can have rational thoughts despite being mentally ill as can degenerates be delusional but not be mentally ill

Any sex act or fetish that doesn't aid the stable nuclear family is probably degenerate on some level. Some acts are more degenerate than others. If an act isn't greatly detrimental to the nuclear family, it might be considered "okay" by a non degenerate society. LGBT and casual sex are detrimental to the nuclear family.

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>for linking useful threads
For spamming in unrelated threads, clearly.
>nuclear family
So, what makes a stable nuclear family desirable? Is it clear that LGBT people are detrimental to this, or is this conflation with other factors that led to the decline of the nuclear family?

>So, what makes a stable nuclear family desirable?
It's the most reliable way to continue our traditional culture and species.
>Is it clear that LGBT people are detrimental to this
The trans movement encourages people to make themselves sterile. It also encourages men to be weaker, and women to take roles that they mentally or physically aren't capable of. Hormonal imbalances may increase mental instability. LGs are effectively sterile if they continue their lifestyle without kids, and enable pedophiles if they push for gay adoptions. LGB lifestyles tend to be sexually liberal, and thus promote the spread of STDs.

Well Milo supports faggotry because he's homosexual himself.
Same reason people like Tara McCarthy and Cernobitch are civic nationalists: personal interest. Tara is "(((European)))" and Cernobitch married a Persian, has kid with her and all. They would undermine what's in their own interests by calling out some degenerate things they're doing.
The only one who seems to tick all the boxes is The Golden One, and he's one big walking meme. Bless him.

Degeneracy is whatever behaviour is contributing to the degeneration of society.
Not all homosexuals are pedophiles, but 95%+ of all pedophiles are homosexual.
On top of that there's statistical evidence that suggests homosexuality is learned behaviour associated with being the victim of child rape or physical abuse.
When people then go in public and claim that homosexuality is perfectly natural and should be accepted as though it were nature, and any form of testing and debate using the scientific method gets slammed with rejection for reasons of ivory tower and socialism, it would degenerate the topic and should homosex becone accepted, degenerate society.

Same for everything else.
It's better to not fap due to the exhausting effects fap has.
To continue anyway and prevent yourself from improving just to have that instant gratification is degenerate.
It's better to be healthy due to the societal costs involved with maladies like obesity.
To have that slab of deep fried pork anyway because you love the taste so much and can't stand salad is degenerate.
Etc.

You haven't made a good point that LGBT people are detrimental to the nuclear family though? If anything, isn't it better that they're less likely to raise children? If it was taboo to be openly lgbt, surely they'd just go on to be terrible parents by virtue of the same things that made them join the movement?
Not to mention, gay and lesbian promiscuity only spreads STDs within their own communities, and promiscuous bisexual people normally mark themselves with the cultural signifiers (colored hair, punk clothing, etc.) of LG communities, making them undesirable for all but already-promiscuous straights.

Yup.

>95%+ of all pedophiles are homosexual.
>degeneracy is that which causes degeneration
Practically a tautology, not useful.

>On top of that there's statistical evidence that suggests homosexuality is learned behaviour associated with being the victim of child rape or physical abuse
Source?

Whatever nerd, we all know you faggots spend most of your time whining about people playing fucking video games or jerking off

Degeneracy is now about as meaningful as "racism" as far as devalued concepts go

>you haven't made a good point that LGBT people are Detrimental to the nuclear family
What???? He literally just blew you the fuck out on tat exact point
Good god sometimes I wish I could get my hands on whatever drugs you guys take, but only wish. cuz doing those drugs are degenerate and I would not do them

Degeneracy is anything other than a white christian life of virtue, work ethic, and moral self-control.

There are infinite degenerate paths and exactly one non-degenerate path.

>So I'm allowed to attack moneylenders, get thrown in jail, hang out with prostitutes and the poor, preach against the rich, etc.?
Yes.

>Could you give some examples so I can see what you mean? What's very degenerate vs. a little degenerate?
>Very Degenerate
Sexual hedonism
drug use
crime
>a little degenerate
lying
taking advantage of others
self-centeredness

>So, what makes a stable nuclear family desirable?
It is the natural intended pattern for humanity. It is how our creator designed us to act.

>tautology
It's unraveling the fabric of society, the family unit, social order and community expectations.
In one word: degeneration.
Whatever our ancestors did to build our world up, it's through degeneracy that it's brought down.

Faggot culture spreads STDs. Many STD ridden faggots intentionally infect straight people. Bisexual people also get the same STD's. It's absolutely degenerate.

At the same time they organize politically and distort the legal code to accommodate their degeneracy. Accomodating faggots is like growing a cancer inside your own society.... Same is true of drug addicts and all other such degenerates. They live for their degenerate habit and disrupt the normal functioning of society.

>So I'm allowed to attack moneylenders
this is not only allowed but encouraged

>using Milo as any sort of reference
Be careful not to be fooled by what sometimes seems like angry gramps shouting degeneracy at everything. There is a difference between an informed user recognizing degeneracy is rampant and some dumby who just kinda goes along(think of someone with a profile similar to that of your typical neocon republican supporter - just going along). There's a reason to label things degenerate, pay attention to those informed. You'll gradually be exposed to redpills such as why homossexuality is bad(and not because of muh bible, but because of verifiable effects on society), how rampant oversexualization clouds any semblance of rational judgement on people's minds, etc etc. Pic related is funny and true

Unfortunately TGO is very gullible in some regards. For instance, he supports Tara ((((((((((4th generation holocaust survivor))))))))))))))))))))))) "McCarthy"

HIV is only 55% gay people?????
I almost have to call BS on that stat
No fucking way! It's gotta be like 80 plus
I don't fucking believe it

This is one statistic where African niggers mustn't be ignored.

Just because she's a woman, probably.
He made that video in defence of Lauren Southern when she got hit with the shitstick and argued that the movement would greatly advance with women on board because it would give the movement immense credibility with normies.
I'm betting (on a vindaloo hunch) that he hasn't changed his mind about that.

>If anything, isn't it better that they're less likely to raise children? If it was taboo to be openly lgbt, surely they'd just go on to be terrible parents by virtue of the same things that made them join the movement?
The LGBT movement encourages bisexuals to experiment with the same gender, and therefore acquire the negative traits seen in LGs. If LGBT is taboo, most bisexuals become effectively straight. I'm not sure if a different gay acceptance movement would have the same effects on bisexuals. The current one is detrimental because it encourages people to experiment to find their sexual identity.

>Not to mention, gay and lesbian promiscuity only spreads STDs within their own communities
Bisexuals join their communities and spread the diseases to straight people.

>and promiscuous bisexual people normally mark themselves with the cultural signifiers (colored hair, punk clothing, etc.) of LG communities, making them undesirable for all but already-promiscuous straights.
The push for LGBT acceptance makes it slightly culturally taboo to deny someone because of these traits.

The gay/identity acceptance movement is more detrimental to the nuclear family than LG people. If they're monogamous and have no influence on children, gays are probably as harmful to the nuclear family as infertile straight couples.

This times 1 milion

If it's something your great-grandpa would he disgusted by with context, it's degenerate. That's my rule of thumb, and I find it's a fitting definition.