> Be Jap > Make stuff > Stuff becomes popular overseas > Want to tap that market > Find partner abroad > Local Jap distributor: LOL nope! We do it for you. We sell license, you get license fee (after we get our cut)
... and this is why CR, Funi, Daisuki, Discotek will always have job security (some more than others)
Brayden Morgan
>buying anime >buying porn
Dominic Gonzalez
And water is wet.
It won't stop retards from renewing their CR subscription Instead of importing.
Chase Nelson
What do you mean popular? Who the fuck is that?
Nathan Bennett
everyone who isn't an idiot knew that cr/funi/amazon/etc all pocket most money from us licenses not mention ad revenue by the end of it the original creators/studios/etc get shit shitty middle men with shitty quality, translations, and drm need to die already inb4 shills
Easton Ortiz
Slowpoke.jpg
Everyone already knows this
Brayden White
Literally who.
Nolan Peterson
>japs get offered a shit deal >they accept it really makes you think
Connor Long
How many of fuckos don't just get a couple of weebs to make a subbed version, i doubt it'd be hard to find some french/spanish and english speaking fuckos to piece it all together.
Ryder Martinez
It wouldn't be all moeshit if you'd actually buy good stuff.
Charles Lewis
who cares If the japs dont make money, they should get a real job
Bentley Howard
>not knowing wew, it was like 3 weeks ago.
David Hernandez
Everyone knows that except delusional funi or crunchy shills.
Connor Russell
Sorry I dont give a shit about your retarded memes. That art looks horrible by the way
David Allen
But I want it to keep being moeshit.
Aaron Russell
Are there independant studios that sell subbed versions directly to costumer? i know plenty of hentai artists that offer an english version as well.
It seemed like a logical way to take advantage of the internet.
Daniel Rogers
So its just some shitty fat porn? Why is it a big deal?
Ryder Bailey
It's kind of retarded how it's literally impossible to actually support the animation studios that make our precious animu.
>streaming only supports they jew companies like shittyroll and funishit >buying cheap bd's only supports jew companies like funishit >importing bd's only supports jew companies that produce the shows >buying merch only supports jew companies that produce the merch and the shows
Literally impossible to actually give my anime to the poor animators in Japan, so I just keep my money or spend it on imported mangos.
Jeremiah Sanchez
waaaaait a fucking second, those are the guys that did ladies vs buttlers right?, they did a hentai?, for fucking real?, please tell me its real, those girls always send the right signals to my dick
Josiah Stewart
*give my money, eh fuck it
Christian Roberts
The artist, not the animation studio.
Jonathan Walker
sealed envelope mailed directly to authors and studios.
Gabriel Nelson
Japs don't know anything about western market, funimation and other jews are the only ones who can "help" poor japanese creators.
Daniel Watson
I don't even know why you post in this thread, user. Are you that bored?
Zachary Watson
BDs are ridiculously expensive when it comes to anime. Importing them costs about 1/6 to 1/5 of the price in shipping alone. Next you have to pay customs for both combined which increases it by 20% again.
No thanks. Make importing stuff easier and I'll support it if I like it.
Same goes for manga. A single volume is like 5€, and insured shipping to Europe for it is 7~9€. If I choose cheaper shipping without tracking it will never arrive. Why would I pay more for shipping than for the merchandise itself? And if it goes above 25€ I need to pay fucking customs again.
In the end, I just hope they get enough for Japanese digitally purchased manga/LN which is all I'm willing to pay as long as internation shipping sucks balls.
Logan Lee
Talk to /biz/ about starting your own licensing agency. Clover Studios.
Ryan Young
I would support them if they got a patreon or some shit but I only know like 2 mangakas that do. I heard its looked down upon to get donations like that over there so they don't do it
Robert Jenkins
>The janitor finds it and steals it.
Adam Reed
This makes me thing is there an anime studio as strong and with as much variety like say HBO to be a giant cunt and release an streaming service exclusively of their content?
Like HBO GO, is any of them powerful enough to set up something like this?
Ayden Moore
The problems with overseas licensing and making it economical comparing to how much elevens waste on stuff are just hilarious at this point and hard to even feel bad about.
Bentley Miller
To reply to OPs points about distribution? I had no idea this as about some crappy hentai but thats not what the thread is really about
Isaiah Moore
>I heard its looked down upon to get donations
Why are japs so proudly retarded bros?
Wyatt Parker
You're going to convince Japanese business men and their ingrained hatred of the western market and new technological advancements. Just look at how Jap video game publishers treat YouTube and twitch.
David Baker
>but thats not what the thread is really about then why the fuck you asked about that in the first place, is like you enjoy to play retarded or something
Wyatt Smith
Handout dishonorabre
Ryan Cook
To know about something I didnt know of before? You are the only retard here.
Connor Price
fpbp
Asher Butler
How to run a business with a hivemind-like anonymous structure?
Charles Perry
>no u just stop, user
Levi Torres
Agreed, the jew bullshit has to fucking stop. They need to start paying the animators properly.
Aaron Jenkins
That wasnt a "no u", you asked why would I ask about something I dont know about You are fucking retarded
Hunter Price
But they're getting peanuts so it's not that bad. Peanuts taste great
Adam Martinez
Any sort of profit will immediately vanish and studios will fold at an alarming rate.
Liam Rivera
At this rate most of the active talent is either going to get the fuck out because of the conditions, get old and retire, die from overworking, go crazy. And then there won't be enough new talent coming in leading to quite a shit scenario, it's already a problem.
Blake Anderson
you really are a fucking retard
Ethan Watson
Accepting donations for something like manga is a shameful behavior, it makes you into nothing but a parasite unable to produce anything of value. The first and most important duty of every human being is to produce enough valuable work to sustain and continue human society when they can, if you are receiving donations for what you call your "work" then you aren't producing like you should. Every work needs to be done under the guidelines and standards of the human society, receiving donations go against that and poison our society's future.
Jacob Foster
>Instead of importing. >A bluray volume cost 40-80 $ >Just 2 to 4 episodes per volume >Complete series cost 250+ $ Yeah just fuck off
Liam Brown
It's not like importing will actually do jack shit.
Wyatt Ward
It fucking sucks to sell shit at the west, most people think they are entitled to your game/show/product and whine like the little socialist bitches they area.
The company where I work was on the verge of breaking before we started getting stuff translated into Chinese.
Joshua Cruz
you asked your answer, you already knew, there was no need to ask the question. don't need to samefag tho, just stop replying
Robert Miller
Sekai Project?
Aiden Rivera
You can't even order HBO Go. You have to have a cable subscription, and then add HBO onto that.
Jacob Cook
Fuck off Sup Forumsermin.
Nathan Clark
TL;DR
Don't blame whitey. Blame your own slit eyed kikes. Asian kikes can be even more kikerish than real jews.
Ethan Bailey
Does anyone else buy the Japanese versions of manga/lns they read fan translations of? Even when they get localised, I still get them in moon.
Easton Lewis
>barely any money for a car goes to the robots that actually made it that's why I download all my cars
Evan Ramirez
i'm not against people trying to earn a living, but directly asking money for drawings and pasting logos everywhere kills it for me
Parker Russell
>tfw China is getting more money in the industry than the west. Why are whites such a useless race? It seems they can only get good results by raping.
Aiden Sanders
The title made me think they got the rights to male a peanuts anime
Aiden Collins
>ywn be a multi-billionaire that will turn the anime industry upside down by funding pet projects with inordinate amounts of money with no care in the world for profits
>choose titles you love or ones that you know would never have a chance of getting greenlit given the industry's limitations >ghibli-level and consistent animation for a series from beginning to end and multi-cours >stream for free and sell physical copies at reasonable prices
Lucas Jackson
actually you can get it without cable, it's called hbo now
Cameron Moore
You and I have similar dreams, user.
Easton Howard
oh, thanks for the info, not like I'm giving money to the people who sent their actors to Europe to interview the poor refugees in the camps with 6 kids apiece, they released like 10 videos of their actors over there showing how poor and not military-aged men these refugees are
Isaiah Ross
>pocket most money >utterly ignorant of U.S. anime industry
Typical user
Cooper Wright
Honestly I wish I knew how to become a US license holder. As long as I could make enough money to pay rent, I would not really care about the rest. The actual costs can't be much I imagine, its just the other companies have such a monopoly.
BD manufacturing is cheap, do batch runs that you drop ship and you can cut down on the staff you need too.
I just wish I had the connections to try and bring an anime stateside. Like, I bought classroom crisis in japan when I was just there because it's been two years. This shit should not take this long. Hell, you don't even need a dub as most of the obscure stuff is sold to neckbeards like Sup Forums anyway.
Nathaniel Wilson
Why couldn't Travis Knight have fallen in love with Anime instead of stop motion?
Levi Murphy
I actually thought about this before.
It's fun to dream.
Liam Bennett
>The actual costs can't be much I imagine
Flying to and from Japan is very expensive, so is advertising, so is the actual process of localizing the media. It's not feasible to burn 1000+ DVDs on your home computer for mass release.
Evan Anderson
The issue with the dream would be the inability of a westerner to break into the market. Unless there are examples of this that I don't know about. Netflix seems to be the only company that is attempting to break in, if only slightly.
Andrew Nelson
I'm gonna make you an offer: 20 thousand but for 70% of the company. I'll do the inventory and distribution cuz you are gonna need a lot of help.
*boom-boom*
Anthony White
It's a good first step
Joseph Morales
If I already had the contacts why would I need to fly to japan, commercial disk manufacturing is hilariously cheap. I can do 1000 disks for a buck fifty each, and that's shipped.
Advertising is probably the most expensive aspect of it all. Localization; I imagine I could find some fansub groups willing to sell their localization to start and go from there.
Camden King
True. At least the asian ones don't push cultural marxism and make sjws.
Colton Ross
If you were a multi-billionaire and genuinely didn't care about profits, you could break into the market with just the power of your money, because that is ultimately what matters the most. An anime costs several millions to make? Hell, you could just drop 50 million for your first project to get you into the door, and people would be begging you to get involved. Netflix is a traditional company that is still trying to make profits, but with that kind of money you're not constrained the same way they are.
And I would sell anime at ridiculously low prices, like entire seasons on BD for cheap, just to fuck over Japan and its current stupid "strategy" that only nets sales in the low thousands for even its most popular series.
Jordan Bell
>Localization; I imagine I could find some fansub groups willing to sell their localization
Why would anyone buy your disc when a fansubber already put it out months ago for free?
>If I already had the contacts why would I need to fly to japan
How do you intend to "get" contacts?
Bentley Morales
What's wrong with just buying it on dlsite?
Parker Thomas
I've been away for a while, how should I search this in the archive to know more?
Isaiah Cooper
>Why would anyone buy your disc when a fansubber already put it out months ago for free? Why would anyone buy BD's when they just recorded it on tv months ago for free?
>How do you intend to "get" contacts? I was operating under this premise: >I just wish I had the connections to try and bring an anime stateside.
Ian Gutierrez
don't worry lads, gonna buy the state run oil industry from my country and fund spice and wolf season 3 asap
Jackson Ortiz
The Internet Fucking Exists, Market Directly to your Fans.
????
Charles Wright
>And I would sell anime at ridiculously low prices, like entire seasons on BD for cheap, just to fuck over Japan and its current stupid "strategy" that only nets sales in the low thousands for even its most popular series.
So this is actually interesting stuff, depending on who you work with, unless you throw around the "fuck you" levels of money, might not give you a license because they worry about reverse importing, meaning all the japs buy the cheap USA releases.
Christian Wilson
See heres the thing. On one hand, you have the western arts market using Patreon and look at its current state. Its the most parasitic and manipulative system ever, the pure nature of "helping out and assissting artists becomes more of a market to leech out on their fanbase"
So you have Japan which DOES NOT DO patreon, but that means they generally "retain their integrity" to "do first, profit next; NOT VICE VERSA"
So I do want them to do donations but if they spiral the same way the western system does, it becomes completely pointless.
Joseph Lee
...
Asher Wilson
Why not use kickstarter, it worked for LWA
Isaiah Cook
We can only fucking dream.
Gavin Powell
>worked
Angel Clark
Even if there was a way to directly contribute to an anime studio, none of you fuckos would do anything.
Angel Rogers
Stop trying to justify your shitty pirating ways. You contribute absolutely nothing to the industry.
Jason Parker
I have disposable income. Not EVERYONE on this board is a NEET. Also, if they follow a model like free to play games, all they need is a few whales.
Angel Cook
>I just wish I had the connections to try and bring an anime stateside.
Nobody in the industry would be willing to deal with some guy on the internet that they never saw in person. Even the smaller operations like AnimEigo had at least one guy whose job it was to go to Japan and meet people in person to try and get licensing contracts.
Brandon Ward
>tfw can't throw 3k us dollars at my favorite artist so he go back to futa on futa.
Bentley Nguyen
>The first and most important duty of every human being is to produce enough valuable work to sustain and continue human society when they can nice meme
Gavin Torres
Why live?
Jack Rodriguez
i'm tired of these 3 inch shota dicks fucking my futas end my suffering at least chinbotsu didn't went for the shota meme god bless
Benjamin Wright
Sites like DLsite cuts a large percentage from the sales. IIRC the creator of teaching feeling or some other guy recommended his fans to buy directly from him on his blog rather than on DLsite.
Benjamin Green
>giving away your money
Ryan Cruz
Why are people in this thread blaming CR etc.? In OP's scenario it sounds more like the local distributor is to blame for forcing the deal to go through one of those, and taking a cut on top of the foreign distributor's cut.
Which, if true, was probably in the contract that the creators initially signed, so they're still fucking themselves either way.
Easton Long
You could but a single bluray volume a year and contribute way more than with a CR subscription.
Brayden Fisher
Because CR and Amazon and the others do exactly the same thing with what comes into their hands? Which makes the spread even smaller in profit for the artist.
But hey, if you want to believe (((CR))) that they distribute well back to the author (but haha they're not going to tell you any numeric figures or percentages or anything because "We assure you, they are compensated well :P"), then by all means live in that naive world.
Jayden Carter
>Instead of importing Why would someone want to give their money to the propagandists at "cool japan"?