>Ben de Pear, the editor of Channel 4 News, said Newman had been subjected to “vicious misogynistic abuse”. Having to calling in security specialists was a “terrible indictment of the times we live in”, he said.
>De Pear said on Twitter on Friday: “Our Channel 4 News on-screen journalists expect to be held to account for their journalism but the level of vicious misogynistic abuse, nastiness, and threat to Cathy Newman is an unacceptable response to a robust and engaging debate with Jordan Peterson.
>“Such is the scale of threat, we are having to get security specialists in to carry out an analysis. I will not hesitate to get the police involved if necessary. What a terrible indictment of the times we live in.”
>In response to Murray’s column – in which he said Newman should get Channel 4 to remove the video from the internet because of how “catastrophic” it was – she said earlier in the week: “Always grateful for advice from Douglas Murray but I won’t be suing or taking out a super-injunction.
>"I thoroughly enjoyed my bout with Jordan Peterson as did hundreds of thousands of our viewers. Viva feminism, viva free speech."
>"Such is the scale of threat, we are having to get security specialists in to carry out an analysis. I will not hesitate to get the police involved if necessary. "
Not like she didn’t plan this. Women do it all the time when they get BTFO, which is always and forever. She probably wrote the comments to herself.
Jason Lewis
Wow what a cunt. Can one of you unemployed bongs with aspies burn the word cunt in her lawn for me?
Thomas Allen
Female response to argumentative attack is to rely on reputational measures. Either to defend their own reputation or dirty their opponents. There's nothing rational here, it's all just reputation management.
Thomas Thomas
>get wrecked by man with logic >cry misogyny
Every time
Dominic Scott
Being so self-righteous
Being so insecure about "messages".
Lel, and I'm throwing in some Kek.
Liam Ramirez
>Hey Cathy. Jordan Peterson intellectually humiliated you and your feminist agenda >SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO KILL ME AN MY FAMILY!? QUICK CALL THE S.A.S!
Isaiah Rogers
And, of course, no evidence.
Aaron Jones
But user have you forgotte pic related? By not agreeing with her you are literally raping her.
Henry Edwards
All irrelevant considering we are objectively right. Eat a dick shill.
Brandon Collins
Yea, let's all pretend the kind of people who are "followers" of Jordan Peterson aren't also the kind of people to send anonymous rape threats to women who disagree with them. Forums like Sup Forums are full of socially-inept manchildren who spend copious amounts of time yelling one another, and don't appreciate that real, live people exist behind the screen. When you attack real, non-anonymous people who don't frequent your circles, they are understandably horrified.
Cameron Ward
What are you "objectively right" about?
Hudson Edwards
Cut yourself harder
Robert Jenkins
>She probably wrote the comments to herself. or hired a firm
Blake Hughes
>“vicious misogynistic abuse”.
Translation: >Some people were laughing at a woman's total incompetence. They shouldn't be allowed to do that.
Cameron Ross
Anything you pick as a topic, sweetie
Adrian Butler
If this is true then they should produce the evidence. But I guarantee even if there were threats made, those threats will constitute less than 1% of the critical messages she's received.
I say this because I once took a large sample of tweets Anita Sarkeesian was receiving after one of her videos was posted. Out of all the negative comments less than 1% of them were threats and I was very generous on what I counted as a threat.
And this is the issue with these people. Everyone receives threats online, from those who dislike One Direction to those who are critical of some obscure Tumblr blog. They, the feminists, take these threats and pretend it’s the majority of criticism they’ve received. They want every critic to be perceived as a harasser.
Ian Gutierrez
I'd rather be a socially inept manchild than a conniving power abusing roastie.Instead of reading up on the subject, do some fact checking, nah, she decided to be an ignorant bitch, aspergically shouting out buzzwords and not listening to what her interviewee says. So that's what's actually happening: she gets called out for being an inept roastie. An inept fucking roastie that shouldn't be in this position. And of course, after this the crying starts. Dog, women like this are a fucking cancer.
Julian Foster
Your argument is based on the premise that a person's reaction to threats is based on the percentage of threats rather than the volume of threats, especially relative to other time periods. Cathy Newman has probably received more hatemail in the last few days than she had previously in the rest of her career in total. You are clearly lacking in perspective if you have trouble seeing how suddenly receiving hundreds if not thousands of vitrolic hate messages can be horrifying to someone.
They really don't need to post the evidence. Anyone who has spent time around Sup Forums or any other manosphere communities has no reason to doubt that Cathy Newman's story.
Nathaniel Phillips
I actually watched the interview when it only had a few thousand hits, so I know exactly its content. She did her job as an interviewer. She asked questions that the audience would have asked, giving Peterson the opportunity to go further into his points. What you may have recognized as questions based on fallacious premises many audience members don't. You see, in the real world, you don't assume that everyone thinks logically. When Jordan Peterson is speaking about the highly-charged topics he's speaking about, he has an obligation to be careful with his words and be mindful of the emotional responses people have to them if he is to effectively convey his points. Jordan Peterson knows this, which is why he wasn't bothered by the interviewer. She was actually giving him the chance to address criticisms he would certainly receive.
But that's all beyond the point. Nothing in that interview made her deserving of misogynistic, hate-filled attacks that makes her fear for her safety.
Anthony Butler
link to documentary?
Logan Parker
You stick out like a sore thumb. Go back to whatever shithole of a site you came from.
>She did her job as an interviewer If she were to lead an interrogation/worked for the gestapo, yes. Unfortunately, this was an interview. In which there was lots of opportunity to get insight into Peterson's views, but instead she chose to ignore his points and/or ramble on about >muh pay gap like an autist. I don't see how the general public should be spoonfed via a certain frame. Sounds very jewish. >be mindful of the emotional responses people have to them if he is to effectively convey his points wah don't hurt mah feelings. if he is to effectively convey his points, the first thing he needs is a decent interviewer desu. there is no way of sugarcoating the truth with some people.
And it's current year, everyone gets death threats and abuse now, grow up. If she did her job correctly, she'd get less. Then maybe she'd be upset that she only got, like, 4 death threats this week.
Grayson Mitchell
It's all about protecting the innermost dark circle.
Widening their control net further outside of the gates; to inject a sense of subjugation in the minds of the commoners.
Brody Ortiz
Your first point is valid, your second is not kys Did I just threaten you?
Hunter Gomez
>I don't see how the general public should be spoonfed via a certain frame The irony here is that you are accusing her of being an autist, but you struggle with the fact that not everyone sees the world in the same way that you do. She actually very effectively provided Peterson the ability to provide insight into his views, and as someone who is not very high on Peterson I had a bit more respect for him than I had previously. The trouble here is that you want an interviewer in which Peterson will be fellated the way you and the rest of the manchildren a part of the Peterson cult do.
The fact that you are defending the threats she received on the basis that "everyone gets them" and that she didn't do her "job correctly" proves my point. You are lacking in perspective and empathy. Maybe that's why you joined the Peterson cult in the first place?
Jeremiah Baker
When he short circuited her fembot programming and she had to reboot was the funniest shit I've seen in a while.
She's by no means a beautiful woman but I'd love to grudge fuck her on the cold ground. Flip her over, cum on her asshole and then use my own salty cum to assfuck her while she bawls and prays to Gloria Steinem.
Noah Wood
>Nothing in that interview made her deserving of misogynistic, hate-filled attacks that makes her fear for her safety.
No, it's the fact that she's a woman that made her deserving. She should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen instead of supping on Marxist ideology.
Brandon Hernandez
Brits dont have lawns
Jackson Gomez
That’s why they want to tether Peterson to the “alt-right” so bad, literally the first paragraph of the article. Then it’s immediately in the public’s mind he and the only people attacking her are all Nazis. Also, notice how selectively the media use the word “controversial.” It is always tacked next to the name of someone the writer finds controversial, namely, someone not on their side. The US mainstream media do the same thing. You’ll never see “controversial” pegged to the name or any proposal or legislation that come from the left.
Joshua Walker
Everyone gets hate messages on the internet
But no, she was more partisan than she needed to be to play her role.
Asher Moore
I have spent over a decade on Sup Forums and therefore have plenty experience with the kind of language used here. I am also anonymous, and therefore there couldn't possibly be any teeth to your threat.
Neither of the above applies to the journalist in question. She is a middle-aged professional woman likely unfamiliar with aggressive manchild culture. Receiving what were probably very explicit threatening e-mails, en masse, justifiably would make her fear for her safety.
Logan Martinez
>"Viva feminism, viva free speech" >"I will not hesitate to get the police involved if necessary."
The state of free speech in this country is appalling.
Zachary Taylor
>Channel 4 >Sup Forums
Coincidence?
Leo Nelson
It was a debate and all she could do was straw man. That's why she is getting the hate.
John Long
I don't think the audience learned anything other than feminists are adversarial to rational discussion
Jaxson James
Was she intentionally misunderstanding every one of Peterson's points and views, and is simply an unsophisticated idiot, or was she being willfully dishonest for the "greater good" of vanilla womyns' activism?
Mason Hernandez
this is from the same woman who literally said "how does your rights to free speech trump a trans person's right to not be offended".
she's not the brightest bulb in the box.
Andrew Robinson
Of course he won't ever claim to be a part of it. Neither does Milo or Lauren Southern. But they never completely separate themselves from it either. Why? Because a large part of their fanbase consists of alt-righters, and calling out the alt-right for what it is puts their Patreon bucks at risk.
Justin Nguyen
why not both?
Dominic Russell
That you are unable to see she was asking question to give him the opportunity to explain to people who really do believe things in that way shows you are not very bright yourself.
Anthony Butler
Firstly, I don’t practice listen and believe. If there is evidence of threats been made towards Cathy Newman, they should produce them. It isn’t difficult and they have no excuse for failing to do this. You’re claim that we no reason to doubt Cathy Newman’s story because of other reports of threats from certain communities falls flat because in those cases, they also failed to produce evidence of the threats.
Secondly, the purpose of my post wasn’t to claim “that a person's reaction to threats is based on the percentage of threats rather than the volume of threats”, but to highlight that “they, the feminists, take these threats and pretend it’s the majority of criticism they’ve received”.
However, I wish to make it clear that social media (such as twitter and YouTube) is an open communication platform and you should be aware that if you post something other disagree with—whether it’s criticism of one direction or claiming the wage gap is due to sexism—you will receive 'hate-mail' and, unfortunately, you will probably receive threats too. It doesn’t matter what the subject is. I will legally defend this state of affairs over a more controlled internet no matter how horrifying someone finds it. However, I do support personal-moderation via the ability to block, filter content and opt-in to AI moderation tools.
Connor Bell
there is no "right" to not be offended.
Mason Campbell
Whatever, virgin
Bentley Howard
>synchronicity storm >memeing the quantum foam >lobster transmogrification.
Matthew Rogers
The football coach at the University of Florida tried this crap after having a shitty season. Instead of getting sympathy and a pass for being a shitty coach, he got fired for making up threats against him. So at least straight white males are still being held to a reasonable standard. It might not be fair but still is better than everyone getting away with crying troll all the time.
Jacob Stewart
>Newman let me help you it's (((Neumann))) all newmans are of jewish descent
Christian Moore
It wasn't truly a "debate," notwithstanding the title of the video. It was an interview. She was providing a springboard from which Peterson could explain his viewpoints.
Hudson Carter
>Nothing in that interview made her deserving of misogynistic, hate-filled attacks that makes her fear for her safety.
>implying she did.
Newman has form on lying in the past. And C4 News producers have also been caught numerous times fabricating stories. This is another fake news story.
>Was she intentionally misunderstanding every one of Peterson's points and views
Yes.
She was actually doing a good 60-minutes style hostile interview, and I say that with respect. That's "real journalism", doggedly attacking someone and their points to really make them have to go all out.
Nearly all news today is softball bullshit and zero depth so this is an improvement, and it's great for Peterson since he defended himself completely. She brought up nearly all criticism levelled against him, she twisted the points around and he beat her soundly.
This is the kind of stuff that changes minds of fence sitters, and it never happens unless there's actual debate. Note that this interview is different from just outright smearing or talking over another speaker ala american panel news shows or similar. Or your god awful late night shows. There weren't any jokes or audience interruptions or screaming over someone, he got a good amount of time to respond to most things.
We should seriously thank this woman, she helped set back feminism with a megaphone.
Luis Ross
I'm glad someone else gets it.
Lincoln Harris
>Receiving what were probably >probably
Lincoln Foster
She openly advocates for stripping people of a basic human right (freedom of speech). People like her are dangerous and should be subjected to violence.
The thousands of feminists who have been "threatened" or received death threats online, sure are lucky. I mean, no one has ever followed through on these threats, which is amazing consider that all death threats received online are obviously meant to be taken seriously. It's not like all people in the public eye receive threats and insults when they cover controversial issues in an abrasive and ignorant fashion.
Owen Rodriguez
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Adam Hall
look at this bitch...ohhnononononononoo
Jeremiah Cox
In the past Ms Newman and C4 news made claims that she was mishandled and expelled from a mosque by a group of men, when CCTV footage from the mosque showed that she wasn't. She's a liar and a fantasist. Nevermind the paygap, she should be more concerned about the gap between her and reality.
Calling her a daft cunt, the truth, is misogynist.
Christian Price
>Is a journalist/news anchor >Says its a "debate" >Asks the most ridiculous shit and responds like a 12 year old feminist
Jack Bennett
Well this changes everything. Bitch is a total liar.
Jackson Martinez
Are you... like... gay?
Eli Lee
>Kathy 'so your saying I'm being thrown out of this mosque under threat of beheading?' Newman
Hunter Diaz
Calling someone you find to be a bitch a bitch isnt really abuse tbg. Abuse would be if you intended them to read it.
Mason Robinson
I mean, describing them as a bitch
Jeremiah Stewart
So you're saying she was playing doubles advocate ?
Leo Cox
Erry time.
Daniel Rivera
>terrible indictment of the times we live in Doesn't he mean terrible indicator?
Aaron Allen
>robust and engaging debate
I imagine the conversation would have been the same with a 12 year old girl.
Nathan Brooks
>got btfo >because muh patriarchy >make me the winner of the debate REEE
Connor Cooper
>Get mocked for being an idiot >VILE ABOOOOOOOOSE
Journalists are a cancer.
Brandon Young
>jordan peterson gets a fuckload of abuse in real life and online from leftists and SJWs >violent threats, death threats etc >nothing
>someone calls her mean things >OY VEY I HAD TO CALL A SECURITY TEAM BECUZ MUH SAFESPACE >HOW DO I INTO LOBSTER?
weak piece of shit
Connor Wilson
>I thoroughly enjoyed my bout with Jordan Peterson. >especially the part where Peterson exposed me for the intellectual midget I am and left my carcass to be torn apart by millions of internet meanies. >I'm also ordering a security investigation to look into the 'nastiness' following my shitshow performance as interviewer. >I'm also considering getting the police involved because I was slayed like a fucking school girl by the non-identitarian girth of Peterson's intellect. >I'm not mad though.
This fucking cunt is seething. What a larf.
Noah Foster
England is a shithole
Asher Hill
very few women seek to improve themselves and self reflect when they have been publicly dressed down like that. Most will channel their butthurt into the mother of all grudges and do things like in this case paint a victim narrative to get people 'on her side'. She couldn't handle negative feedback from a group of people as she is used to cucks and other womyn kissing her ass for everything she does because she is a well known, left wing female.
Gabriel Wood
Ive never done anything of that nature, I dont write youtube comments etc. Ive got too much to do than waste time giving delusional millionaires more ammunition for their agenda.
In fact. I really like Peterson, because he isn't a little provocateur like Shapiro who debates 18 year olds in college seminars, or a showman like Milo (despite being hilarious). I like Peterson, because he's an actual scientist with actual real life experience on the matter. He doesn't resort to inflammatory bullshit. All he does is explain rationally why he thinks the way he thinks. He also offers solutions based on data.
Bentley Brooks
so what are the actual threats made? another article listed people calling her a cunt and an idiot and this one doesn't even bother to give any examples. Surely if there was anything more nasty, they would report on it, wouldn't they? Pretty sure dr frogmeme has gotten worse abuse so far
Eli Harris
>he's an actual scientist Psychoanalysis isn't a science.
Juan Sanders
>he thinks that clinical psychologists don't have to be experts in neuroscience
I think you're confused kiddo. "Psychoanallists" are a Freud-tier jokes, which is why theyre actually called therapists. Clinical psychologists are literally doctors of the mind with practical application. They understand brainchemistry and physiology to such a degree, that they prescribe medication based on your individual issues.
Angel Ortiz
I think this image speaks a lot about the mentality behind women. A fatass looks at someone who is in shape and they immediately resents that. They want to protest about it and how they are privilaged and make laws to ban it. Men however see someone who is in shape and they see it as a goal, something to strive for and become and ultimately surpass.
Adam Roberts
I really wish someone would give her a reason to be scared and for the police to be used.
Mason Moore
psychologists do not prescribe medication in the united states at least. that would be a psychiatrist.
Landon Young
Viva shut your fucking mouth you god forsaken cunt. You've brought this upon yourself just as any "racist white male" has with his "hate speech."
Reap what you sow you cunt.
No matter how this ends, you will never feel as comfortable flapping your cunt lips about these topics ever again without a latent PTSD fear of the backlash you will get.
Mission Accomplished
Connor Hall
I see. Different thing then. In German psychiatrist is what you call a psychologist in English then. Peterson would be called a "Neurologist" here in Austria. Essentially a doctor for the brain, not a therapist.
Evan Morris
>psychologists Still not science, Peterson is a philosopher not a scientist.
Carson Harris
>I have spent over a decade on Sup Forums
no you havent you fucking faggot. you limpwristed cocksuckers are fooling nobody
Dominic Stewart
>hes a peer reviewed scientist >not a scientist
Ok lad.
Angel Collins
>Neurologist Peterson is not a neurologist, Sam Harris is a neurologist, ie, a scientist.
Luke Cook
lol
Josiah Rogers
So you're saying dumb feminist gets BTFO and complains to the cops because le Smart Man was mean to me.
Thomas Howard
>peer reviewed Social 'scientists' make this claim too, in that context it just means some other non scientists agree with him, meaningless unless their agreement is verifiable using the scientific method, which it isn't because his ideas are philosophy not science.
Charles Baker
Uh huh
Luke Lee
100% planned I'm sure. >Interview cult leader with increasing popularity getting rich off his donators >Be controversial, aggro and confronting as you can >Wait for cultist to give you free publicty and if no one cares just make everything up
Aaron Mitchell
Again, no argument.
Alexander Hernandez
>In response to Murray’s column – in which he said Newman should get Channel 4 to remove the video from the internet because of how “catastrophic” it was – she said earlier in the week: “Always grateful for advice from Douglas Murray but I won’t be suing or taking out a super-injunction.
>"I thoroughly enjoyed my bout with Jordan Peterson as did hundreds of thousands of our viewers. Viva feminism, viva free speech." Pretty based.
Joshua Ortiz
Nice projections bucko. You don't consider it at all possible that she actually received some threats.
Aiden Thomas
My Youtube account mysteriously just got deleted, wonder if this has anything to do with it. Think I might have called her a dumb cunt in that video? I don't even remember.