Kuroshitsuji / Black Butler

new chapter is up

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well, the theory is basically 101% confirmed with this chapter.

Confirmation of two ciels?

Soma immediately attacked Ciel, there's no way it's not two Ciels.

So are they twins are do we have a "beggar and prince" scenario?

most likely twins, note the cut off split branch. there's heaps of other stuff pointing towards it as well.

My guess is real!Ciel swallowed the ring (candy), and fake!Ciel took it out after summoning Sebastian, assuming his identity.

The sickly and more cowardly twin adopted his brothers persona in order to carry out their revenge, since he was too weak to.

All this zombie stuff and the Undertaker probably brought the other one back. The question is, why attack Soma/Agni? Why go after Ciel? Neither of them were behind the cult or his death. Something's fucky.

I think it's safe to say this will get a complete adaptation now.
School arc could be a tv season, witch arc a movie/ova and idol arc another season.

They won't kill Soma because he now knows the truth, right? Siel seems very upset that Soma has seen whatever was on the photo.

So, Sebastian's last line means
>I'm not lying
>but YOU are

How long will that goddamn cricket match be?

2 Ciel is for sure now. All I hope the Ciel is female theory is bullshit.

I would guess only if poo prince goes against them.

I hope that happens because I have zero interest in watching either the first or second season. They already look dated.

>Ciel is female theory
W-what?

>poo prince
P-please don't insult my favorite character.

>goes against them.
Souma no doubt will be angry and angsty and will throw tantrums next chapter probably. But I suppose now that Agni is dead, Souma is gonna play a bigger role in the plot. He said he wants to become Ciel's Agni. Does it mean Souma will die protecting Ciel?

That'd be hilarious but Yana probably knows what hell she'd fine herself in if she tried it.

*find herself in

My theory: The real Ciel was brought back as a bizarre doll by maybe undertaker, and has been convinced that his twin (our ciel) betrayed him and stole what "belonged to him" and is the reason he is dead, so now he is been manipulated to get revenge on our Ciel

the phrase he wrote on the wall was obviously something the two ciels would say to each other back in the day

Wait, wait, guys, how can Ciel be female, we saw him naked several times, and green witch touched his dick. That's retarded.

Yeah, but It'd be just hilarious to see the whole fujoshit fanbase kill themselves if it were to happen to be the plot twist

An interesting twist would be if real!zombie!Ciel's goal was to ruthlessly divest fake!Ciel of Sebastian, in order to save his soul ("protecting him") and that Agni/Soma were just collateral or something. It'd be a goal the Undertaker would get behind too.

In this case even Sebastian being a woman would make more sense, because at least he was never confirmed to have a dong.

The zombies have not been very mentally stable. Lizzy is still missing as well.

Unless the zombies were all practice for bringing OriginalCiel back?

>It would show real!Ciel protective care over his brother but also the ruthless and a litte psycho nature Yana's hinted at in that one flashback with Vincent and Diedrich
Not bad

>Yandare twin brother trying to save his brother from Demon dick with his dick
Yana does it again

>Unless the zombies were all practice for bringing OriginalCiel back?
this

This better fucking happen

Who was the other intruder though? Could he be undertaker?

They had an adult shaped face.

Either Sebastian is double dealing or OriginalCiel has their own supernatural entity (Angel, Shinigami, etc...)

Not to mention Souma knew who they were.

How much of a tease would it be if Lizzie was the intruder?

>yfw the anime's second season was foreshadowing all along and it'd be a fake!ciel vs real!ciel and their respective demon butlers
This would be such a shit, but at the same time I wouldn't mind seeing another demon, just don't make him a butler or whatever

Will he be as slutty as Alois was?

>Who was the other intruder though? Could he be undertaker?
Too short and no scar, so probably not the Undertaker.

Agni's supernaturally fast and strong and can go toe to toe with Sebastian, but got outpaced by the knife user. Whoever it is is dangerous.

I've seen people say that it's Lizzy, but I really doubt a zombie shota and little girl who got whooped bad by Sebastian would be able to kill Agni.

...

Whoever it was, they were fast enough to out dex build Agni, but not strong enough to break his death grip on the door - though, even Sebastian couldn't, and had to tear the handle off to open it. But they could of done that or knocked the door down, but didn't. At first I thought maybe they just didn't have the time to, but they had the time for the carving on the wall, so I think they just weren't strong enough.

>How much of a tease would it be if Lizzie was the intruder?
You mean the one with the gun? I could see that - maybe the photo had Lizzy in it. Still, there's a lot of 2CT vibes going on...

There's no way she was the knife user though. She's not fast or strong enough.

Does that mean there will be soul switching too?

I can't believe the twin theory finally looks like it's going to be revealed. Like someone else mentioned, I believe it's a zombie brother due to Undertaker although I wonder what his goal is and I guess he has Lizzy under his control too. What I also want to see confirmed as well is that Vincent is a psycho dick and tried to sacrifice his family to become stronger like gaining shinigami powers. Undertaker and Vincent have a connection that was mentioned several chapters back and want to see if that leads to Vincent being the final big bad.

Alois was too good for this shitty demon, zombie alois when?

>Vincent is a psycho dick and tried to sacrifice his family to become stronger
I really, really don't see this at all. Vincent was psycho in regards to his role as the Queen's Watchdog, but there's nothing to support him doing shit to his own family.

Undertaker and Vincent were close friends, and there's also the grandfather theory, so Undertaker has a stake in the family as a whole, and is a bit less than sane.

>grandfather theory
What is this?

Maybe in an OVA?

Something about Undertaker and Ciel's granny being lovers and making him Ciel's grandfather/Vincent's father I think

Is Undertaker the antagonist of this story? Or an unexpected ally against sbgreater treat?

What is the basis for this evidence?

He's probably just one step below the actual antagonist sebastian

It's a real stretch, but some people think the Undertaker, before he committed suicide and became a reaper (or, somehow as a reaper), was potentially Vincent's father (or knew his grandmother in some other way). This is because he's seen playing with a charm with her name and a date on it in ch35. What's more likely is that he just has some sort of as of yet unexplained relationship with Vincent's family line, and became too close to Vincent and his family in particular, leading to current events with the zombies.

I'm just glad the idol shit is over, I don't want to see my sweet Edward like a pussy slayer ever again, he is PURE

>antagonist
He's not behind the cult - we know that he loved the Phantomhive family.

He's just insane and causing a lot of problems with zombies, because he wants to resurrect them.

The people behind the cult are still the big bads.

Since deaths are back on the menu, who will be the next victim out of Ciel's gang?
I bet on Lau or one of the shinigamis.

He's a Fag and a PURE slut!

>What is the basis for this evidence?
He had a charm with Ciel's grandmothers name and presumably date of death on it that he considered a treasure (and later gave to Ciel), and was beyond normally fond of Vincent. Still a pretty 'meh' theory though.

>Lau
Now that's a name I haven't heard in many years...

Probably one of Ciel's staff members to be honest.

It's going to be Auberline isn't it? Fuck this gay earth

>delete this
Edward is NOT for lewd

It's a crime that there isn't enough porn of the Fags

>chinese triad and opium arc

That's gonna brutal.

Lau worked for Vincent too right?

If there is Lau maybe we'll finally see what's the deal with RanMao, wasn't she also super strong and maybe not human?

Time for the last circus member to taste Ciel's memes and die, while cursing him

Maybe she's a Golem or something like that?

pls no. snek is precious.

But will Snek die knowing the truth of what happened to the other members of the circus, or will he be spared from that pain?

Souma >= Cheslock >> Edward >>>>> Harcourt >>>>> that glassed fag

>He's probably just one step below the actual antagonist sebastian

How can the Undertaker be one step below Sebastian if he trashed Sebastian 1vs1?

There's no evidence Sebastian was holding back. What we saw clearly places the Undertaker above, not under your average demon/death God.

I'd like him to get both before dying, somehow.

Not them, but I'm pretty sure they didn't mean a step below in terms of strength. I think they were just talking about his position as a antagonist.

>There's no evidence Sebastian was holding back.
So long as he maintains a human form, Sebastian is holding back. That said is right, the user you responded never mentioned strength or anything.

Edward > Souma >>>> Cheslock >>>>>>>>>>> glasses fag = the scat shota

As stated, I meant as the antagonist.

Sebas is probably behind everything.

Edward is too generic-looking for my tastes and has a boring personality.
Cheslock is cool as fuck and punk playing a violin is amusing.

Why so much hate for Harcourt?

>Pure like a blushing maiden
>He is unremarkable, is aware of it and wants to be better
>Knows Ciel is a little shit and calls him out on it on times
>Probably a mama's boy
Edward is just too precious. And Cheslock's design, while cool, just triggers my autism more than any other of Yana'a historically inaccurate stuff because he is a high class victorian school boy but somehow he is also rocking nu-punk-goth style and a fucking mohawk.

At this point, trying to apply historical accuracy is fucking retarded.

he shat his pants very erotically

>lau arc
>ranmao suffering
NO! NO LAU ARC

Face it, the guy is going to be introduced soon since he hasn't been around in years

Lau and Ranmao are so criminally underused, at this point I'd rather see them suffer than stay on shelves being irrelevant

How many chapters until two-ciel is confirmed on screen?

another 100

2. When realCiel kidnapps Lizzie at the end of the chapter

Maybe Lizzie stays with the bravat faction because of the other ciel? So far we haven't seen why she's so fanatic about it, I can't believe it's just how cool the parties are.

What is it she says about leaving the side?

Who is ready for EDGY Soma?

>Agni killed off to confirm the shitty 2 Ciel plot twist
Soma is going to die too isn't he.

So what is up with Bravat now there's another Ciel to deal with?

Nah he'll comeback PUNISHED to get revenge on realCiel

What the hell is the two Ciel theory?

He's gonna go back to pooland and get the royal army ready to btfo of the queen's army.

Ciel had a brother who was the real Ciel.

That sounds stupid.

Ciel has a twin/double (most likely twin). One was the real Ciel, well liked, and the heir. The other was less liked and sickly. Real Ciel died in the ritual, and the brother assumed his identity and became the Ciel we currently know.

It's pretty much confirmed.

We've seen plenty of evidence of it. The split family tree, "Ciel" talking with someone in the flashback to just before the ritual, his dad introducing Ciel to people in a flashback with someone else obscurred, Ciel's supposed amnesia, etc.

The theory has been growing for a while and these latest 2 chapters seem to be confirming it.

The manga has hinted it for a long time hence why the theory got popular and the last 2 chapters have pretty much confirmed it.

Soma hitting Ciel in self deffense is close enough to confirmation of the theory, all he needs to say is that it was Ciel who tried to kill him and Agni and there will be little room to doubt it

So what could this be referring to? Tried rereading recent chapters, nothing really stood out.

Asking if his brother was dead.

Yana fucking loves Alois, he gets tons of Valentine's gifts apparently