High Intelligence and Lack of Motivation

Hey guys, I know the occasional thread of defeat shows up here from time to time, but I hope this discussion will be allowed. The investigation of the struggles that the intellectual outlier contends with is still well-within the realm of political incorrectness, if not out right taboo.

How do y'all find motivation to reach your full potential, or even something close to it? I find myself largely disillusioned with the world and all of its trappings. There is no carrot worthy of my chase; no kindling can be found to nourish the dying ember of my interest. When death claims all things (though I do believe in God), what keeps you guys rolling along?

I see people who are obsessed with the continuation of the species as not human, but merely talking DNA. Everything about this world is rooted in suffering and death. Everything is tainted by evil and decay; and should you be part of that most unfortunate group of intelligent, perceptive, caring, truthful people, you will be rooted out by the collective evil, as history shows us.

So what the fuck? Unless a path towards spiritual ascension is tangibly possible, then there isn't anything worldly worth striving for, outside of survival - which, itself, is an unspeakable evil, and always at the cost of some other being.

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Your face when what? You're holding a disgusting little fucking maggot that shits and screams all over the place? What's your point?

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You still don't get it.
You have only processed a fraction of understanding. You are on the correct path. Now that you have accepted life as it is and have simultaneously chosen not to concede, it is your new life mission to decide how your life can be meaningful. Believing in God makes this easier.

Here is a hint:

What makes something a genuine act of good in a world where every person, organization, country, religion, and philosophy is neither right nor wrong because it is impossible to objectively argue to a legitimate conclusion?

Who are you and who do you want to be?
What makes something significant? Is there such a thing as one thing being more significant than another?

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Motivation depends on a number of factors the right person can keep you all day motivated, the wrong person will sink you forever.

Your shits all retarded and you talk like a fag

mfw..

You're just lazy. Get back to work. If you can't find any good "reason" (as if you need one) Then do it for yourself or your family. Get enough money that you don't need to worry about things. Is this the part where you tell me all about your crypto gains?

>I'm smart but lazy

mfw,

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This. OP is making excuses so he doesn't have to work, or find out that he isn't as smart as he htinks he is. Probably thinks he's smart because he got As in high school without studying, as if that is some kind of accomplishment

i also lack motivation OP. people are too stupid and i just dont give a shit about this country anymore, we are on the decline to 3rd world shitholism and eventual dilution into a global race and 1 global nation but the world will probably end before that in nuclear war so why even give a shit. much better to just become a hermit in the woods of alaska and enjoy your time without the stress of wagecucking for communists while the clock counts down

Thanks for contributing nothing worthwhile here. How sad that people should try to convey their happiness when they have condemned another being to suffering and death.

>You still don't get it.

I don't get what? I don't buy into your relativism, sorry. There is objective truth out there, however hard it is to decipher.

Who is there to be in such a limited and imminently morbid world and society?

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I'm convinced that people like you are nothing more than a fractal mind, part of some sort of global hive-mind. These commonplace, base suppositions and thoughts are garbage. I know I'm intelligent. This thread was not made in hopes for validation in that regard.

Thanks for the reply, man. I'm sorry to hear that you're struggling with similar things. I am working for a shitty wage as of right now, but I reckon it could be a lot worse, though obviously far from ideal. Do you still like to do anything? What keeps you going?

lmao, *you and your asi*n gf's face when

Why do you keep posting pictures? Do you disagree with my OP? Or are you just another organic portal?

What's your IQ?

What if you get to heaven and Jesus says “you wasted it, we gave you all the tools to live your own real life anime.”

>Dat title
If you're not motivated; you're not very bright to begin with. Dumb people think 'lower'. Obviously, you want 'higher'. We all do. Shit's fucked everywhere, nations are having problems that become everyone elses problems; etc. The key is perspective. It's the good kind of chaos. Candy-coated nonsense. Since you're asking here; you already have what it takes. Have fun!

Motivation is for faggots
You need discipline
Ancient stoicism
Join a nationalist group
We need your brains
Live for something greater than yourself
Why be a peasant when you can be a part of history as it happens years from now children will read stories about the battles the nationalists of today fought to bring our people out of kike slavery once and for all

>anyone who says I'm lazy is stupid, bleh

it is absurd, there is an entire philosophical tradition examining the absurdity

but seeing the puzzle of quantum nonlocality and consciousness metanoia traditions come together in some grand unified synthesis i find interesting enough to stay on this plane of suffering a while longer

the drop must find the ocean at some point

Survival is an unspeakable evil? Why don't you kill yourself then

a picture of a white woman and baby speaks 1,488 words :)

no, I don't agree with your nihilist propaganda. I love my people and have never felt more positive about our future.

when you realize you are the only hope for humanity you'll change... otherwise you're just dust in the wind.

Mensa certified 136

You can chase novelty day and night but it will never satiate you, only slowly eat you away until you are dead inside. I suggest reading the Tao Te Ching, The Fourth Way (Ouspensky), Revolt Against the Modern World, Stalking the Wild Pendulum, and Ride the Tiger; Be You rather than being who you've been programmed to think You are.

You are a faggot

Nice mis-characterization.

I honestly don't know. I took some at a very young age, and I also did an extensive four hour IQ and personality battery several years ago. The very strange thing is that every time I have attempted to collect my documentation and results I get the run-around. The company refuses to give me my information.

I agree to an extent. I'm not seeking some inexhaustible well of motivation, but one needs some sort of spark to begin anything. Discipline is not my issue. A proper reason, or lack thereof, is.

I disagree with your first statement. Less intelligent people, or at least more averagely minded, tend to use social pressure and social rewards to get everything done that they need doing. It is the one who abides in the abstract who is often without proper stimulant, because society's opinion means much less to him.

Just by reading through your posts it becomes obvious that you are either a shitposter or a failing highschooler trying to rationalize your poor grades by claiming to be "intelligent but lazy". Either way, I'd recommend getting off of your computer and reading a book or going outside for once in your miserable life. Maybe then you'll start to find the answers you seek.

Nothing I said was nihilistic. Everything I said was rooted in real-life realities and observations. Nor did I say anything about white people.

The fact that your IQ is 130's is quite telling, and it's no wonder that you are fully captivated within the world and system of procreation, and tribal identity. A 130-ish IQ is the best of both worlds, from one perspective. You are still basically an unthinking animal, fully engaged in all the societal programs, but with enough surplus intelligence to excel or lead; not enough, however, to attend to the big questions, which is why you think what I said was "nihilistic propaganda". You are too much Will, and not enough Intelligence, as Schopenhauer might have said.

What do you mean, man? Can you elaborate?

Why would I compound that evil by inflicting pain on people that care about me? The reality is that is takes suffering, death, and toil to keep any of us here.

Thanks for the reply, man. I agree with you that novelty is a fucking trap, one that I fall for regularly. Thank you for the reading suggestions. I will look into them.

Okay... lol. You couldn't be more wrong, but you are a leaf, after all. Being wrong is natural for you.

You are a physics major in Harvard or a billionaire entrepreneur then I take it?

> survival is at the cost of some other being

That's an extremely faggy way of looking at it

here faggot watch this

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Nice red herring... surely you realize that one can be intelligent without being a physics major, billionaire, or success by societal standards? In fact, according to data on high IQ and top tier professions, the further right one is on the bell curve, the less likely he is to be in any recognized profession. At any rate, what's your point?

>I'm going to use a bunch of #2 words to disguise the fact that I've never accomplished anything of merit despite being so "smart."

What did Marcus Aurelius say about books, mate?

Okay. Faggy or otherwise, is it a true statement?

nope

What the fuck are you even talking about? While they might be "#2" words for you, I come here with no pretense. How I speak is how I speak. That you would be offended by my word usage is somewhat telling though. You come looking for war. I came looking for insight.

Do tell.

Faggotry is a perversion of nature and of truth.

Motivation is temporary and fleeting, it always goes away. Give up on motivation. It's not worth it. Instead focus on building discipline. Discipline is always there when you need it. When you don't feel like doing what you know you need to, discipline will make you do it anyway. Motivation is a feelgood feeling that's only around during the happy times. Discipline is toughness that pushes you through hard times. That's what you really need.

Have you accomplished anything of merit?

I agree with your message, but it doesn't address my core issue. Discipline can only be enacted upon an already established goal. My question is what, in a world of vanities, is worth borthering over?

>not enough to lead
ENTJ-A MBTI personality type is by definition what a leader requires. Guess which one I have :)
while you type pages of superfluous posts.. I appeal to the masses with things they value and understand.

One perk for me is I get super excided and happy when I learn something new, that only means that when I see my maker I can tell it to go where the sun does not shine and part my way anytime and everytime!
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice well can't get fooled twice... lol

You have to find the goal that you believe will bring you long term stable happiness. Don't aim for goals that are temporary, short term, or masturbatory. Find something that can lead to other things down the road. And stop looking for external validation and meaning from the universe. Find it in yourself because no one can take that away.

I would need to know what you mean by merit. I have done things I am proud of, and I am working on some projects. What, am I only intelligent and worthwhile, or at least not a fraud in your eyes, if I jump through all your societal hoops and meet benchmarks that you all consider worthwhile? Have you accomplished anything of merit?

You should read my message more carefully.

Also, you imply that I am at all impressed by your supposed ability to appeal to the masses. You are like a rat leading the roaches. I look down upon you both with sadness.

Thank you for the encouragement.

Do you mean that you think the maker is evil?

true, I stand corrected. Although you did structure your statement deceptively. Two positive compliments with the word "but" separating them leading me (a scanner reader) to mistake it for a negative statement (>but with enough surplus..etc I inserted instinctively > but *not enough)

Not to parse your post too much.

Civilization is a pigs pin for idiots.

Nothing if you don't have a virgin wife and 3 kids. KYS yourself

It wasn't meant to be deceptive. It was meant to convey back to you what I felt you were giving to me since the beginning of my thread: insult. I do respect your honesty though.

The niche. That is the true motivation for man. If one never finds their niche they can never reach a level of satisfaction that is ironically satisfactory.
However the balance between niche and novelty is hard when chasing your dreams. Even a drop of boredom of tediousness and all can crash down around you. Finding a balance is key. At the end of the day we are surrounded by a society that is very much based in currency. Anytime you reach that limit on novelty you have exhausted your niche quota. In ways cash can alleviate these symptoms because it can lead to greater en-devour with more rewarding experiences. However lifetime is finite and bouncing between things like some jack of all trades is exhausting and time consuming.
At the end of the day it really requires a look inside of yourself to decide what are you willing to do and not do. What is your acceptable level of novelty? as well as what do you find is worth working on day in and day out? Are you really just chasing the buck? Or are you looking for something greater? Does it all really just equal vanity?
Once you have met your goals and achieved a level of satisfaction that you deem worthy, what is next? If you consume all the knowledge and perceive nothing beyond it you stop learning.
Really what you are asking is what is the meaning of it all. And my friend that is something we cannot answer. It is really up to you. Most of us here haven't reached the end of the novelty vs knowledge curve and are deluded like Mr Family here. For others that have satisfied their level of knowledge it still leaves a hunger that is unquenchable. The novelty has worn off and things take on a gray tone like a 40 sitcom.
I don't have the answer for motivation. It is something that you just have to decide yourself, is X thing worth doing everyday?

It sure fucking seems that way, man. If so, then what is the world?

And I always get shit for this but fuck it.
When I quantify something as worth it I run it by the Jesus Check. If it checks out, I do it.

Complex thought seems to be a bit much for you, so let me reduce it down to bite sized pieces:

You are on an anime image board, a place filled to the brim with failures and fools, asking for advice of a profound and life changing nature. You know full well that this site will yield no results of that nature so you must either be here to try and flaunt your perceived intelligence or to look for validation for your shitty life.

Glad we've come to an understanding, white women are all we need.

have a great rest of your weekend and week ahead brother. goodnight

I'll leave you with these words to contemplate later.

>Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

I truly appreciate your post, brother. I very much like your novelty/knowledge model. I couldn't agree more. Can I ask you - is it possible to answer your questions when one resides in that gray space you speak of? How the fuck can I manufacture giving a fuck? My brain says, he's right, grind out something you decide on that seems decent enough, but emotionally I don't know where to find the fuel.

I'd also like to know how you have answered your own questions. What brought you peace? In a tangible way, I mean. What gets you out of bed beyond mere survival?

And you're absolutely right: the question is nothing other than the most fundamental of them all. The fact that the most important cannot be grasped sufficiently is yet another in a long line of insults to the thinking man.

You just sound depressed desu.

As for me, I'm a complete loser at the moment, but what keeps me going is fitness - striving to constantly best myself physically through both running and lifting...i,e, to run further, faster, and become stronger, heavier, leaner... it produces perpetual goals to aim for whilst giving rewarding feelings of accomplishment in the process which is great... oh and sex, not that I get any lately, but porn and the desire to eventually suck on some nice big ol' titties is a good motivator. Sooon...

>high IQ
>believes in god

Had you simply started from this point and not indulged your need to attack me, our conversation could have been more meaningful, and our banner could have been one.

I understand. I've seen enough posters here over time to know that there is, at least, a small pool of brilliant guys reading, and sometimes commenting. The truth is that there simply is no place on the internet or in personal society to explore this topic.

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Thanks for your post, man. I am glad you have found something that keeps you trucking along. I totally agree that physical activity is excellent. I like lifting weights myself.

Cool site. Thanks.

Only highly intelligent Rick and Morty watchers will understand the brilliant pre-Spenglerian Nietzschean existential nihilist philosophy of this post

Reference this guy...We on a shitty image board :)
And this guy...I got things I have to do and if they don't get done I get the short end of the stick. However I fall into the grey too. Even tho I get my ass in gear and get things done, at the end of the day I am severely unmotivated to my niche's.

DESU about what fuels me is I have been through some really low points in my life. For instance everyday I drive by the place my father was killed. It hurts but it is life. Even tho I knocked family guy, I am that guy in my own way. Without it I don't know the outcomes that my life would have held for me.

However at the end of the day their is a serious void that has developed inside me. Like I said above I have found my niche's but I can't bring myself to work on them most days. It is really a mood/attitude thing. Somedays I wake up in a fog even tho I do not do drugs. I do have one bad habit and that is smoking but the stress of day to day does not benefit me. I have been at points in my life where I rose above things like petty addictions but at this moment it is my one weakness.
Second thing for me is I haven't been getting good sleep. God knows I have been trying but ever since Christmas sleep as been shit for me.
As we get farther into Jan, I feel like I have to make that change again. I have to rise above this "depression" fog. So that I may answer my own questions properly. I know I know the answers I am just like you. So unmotivated to care.
Some days I just wish my body and mind didn't ache so that it would be easier to get going about my day. Some days I am so close and almost get all of things I want to do done. However there always seems to be something that comes up, I adapt but it is not always enough time. So I try again the next day. I guess that is all you can do sometimes.

Want my two cents? You still want something from life if you haven't killed yourself. As to the nature of what that is I can only speculate but I can tell you for sure that it's not on Sup Forums.

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Learn programming, find a subfield where you can improve on something. Take about a year or so to write that program way way better than existing programs addressing the same problem. Then turn it into a business. Or get a job from your experience, and try again.

At least you'll have cash and you can go back to being a nihilist COMFY

OP you should have worded it differently. most people on here are intelligent but not geniuses and when you use the term "lack of motivation" they think you are asking "I cant get myself to care about or do the things I need to do can some one help?" instead of what your post clearly asks "Why should I care about the things in this world?". Anyway, I guess the answer to your question is either finding out how to achieve spiritual ascension or if spiritual ascension does not exist, I would say your best option is to love something with all of your soul and that would be your motivation.

Love. Her. That's my motivation. Without that, I would be consumed with the same thoughts.

>Long way of saying no

You're the same as all the other edgy kids whose identities revolve around how they are "smart"

>you ever tried not using any drugs (yes weed too you fucking pothead degenerate)
>you ever tried purging yourself of all food colourings and additives
>you ever tried drinking exclusively distilled water
>you ever tried eating large doses of melatonin at night or after fluoride consumption
>you ever tried psilocybin

frequency controls paradigm. you just gotta have the right ear, but nobody said what we don't hear isn't here. spoken in riddles for fear of death, we have 7 main colours in our spines for a nice filing cabinet.

also pic related, although disinformation is a good tactic to help you weed out truth. Even if you will die for the disinformation to reach the right audience at the right time. the baphomet IS the lie, do not kill yourself.

don't believe in me, feel it in your gut. believe what you wanna believe.

Strive to build a family. Everything will fall into place from there. You'll need capital- get a decent job. A nice woman - start looking. You'll have to live long enough to support them - be healthy. You'll have something worth building for, and that I'd where a real man derives his purpose.

All other pursuits should be supplementary to building a family. Building a family is the precipice upon which stable societies are formed.

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only way to break master mentality is to deviate from it in your own manner, considering Nietzche would be your master

i told you what it do nigger

OP I am 26 and I wish I had an answer for you. Ultimately I think the answer is to just convince yourself to go out and do things even if you don't really feel "motivated". Some would say that motivation itself is a bullshit term and it's not necessary. You just need to go do shit on a regular basis and eventually it becomes a beneficial habit.

Of course, we all know that's easier said than done. Frankly though there is a problem of unmotivated smart people. I know more people who got low 20s on their ACTs that are successful now, than I do people who got over 30 on their ACTs being successful.

Intelligence is only one part of life and one part of being a person. Many of us were duped. As children we thought that if we could breeze through school and get A grades with minimal effort, that life as a whole would be easier for us. We were told that school prepares you for life, so in our intelligent child brains we rationalized that doing well in school means that you will do well in life as well. As a result we stop trying so hard at things because we don't think that motivation is even necessary.

This is our ultimate downfall. And frankly, I think it's somewhat by design. Those who want to keep a population docile and controlled would do well to disarm the intellectuals of a society from a young age. It's a running theory I have but I think it's an explanation. In a normal society there would be minimal intelligent underachievers. Yet in America and maybe other western countries, there is an abundance of us. The sad truth is the dumbasses and average people who just work hard end up doing better than smart people who think about shit all day but don't end up doing anything.

Many of us who were really intelligent (maybe not the smartest, but close to it) ended up being steered away from fields that we should have gone into. The smartest people I know ended up getting STEM degrees, but most of the smart people I know went into liberal arts

also pic related, theres a reason why it sounds like riddles/gibberish to most

Thank you very much for sharing with me. I certainly relate to your struggle, though I know we all carry our own special types of cross; and alone, ultimately, must we carry it. You've given me some things to think on, but just knowing you can relate is therapeutic in its own sad way.

Do I still want something, or would the current means and repercussions of killing myself be more than the cost of ending my life? I'm curious though, what would be your speculations? And I think you are right.

Thanks, man. That is a good idea. I have only dabbled in learning it. I got the impression that the field was becoming overly saturated, is that not the case?

Thanks a lot, man - and fair enough of a critique regarding my approach. I completely agree. It seems I have been cursed with loving that which refuses to yield me any crop: the true nature of reality.

Who is she? I am glad you have something to motivate you.

My identity doesn't revolve around my intelligence, though it can't be helped that it contributes more heavily to that identity. It's just a fact that all outliers, regardless of type, contend with real and serious problems. Only intelligence seems to be that thing which dare not speak its name.

you write like an atheist redditor

>just knowing you can relate is therapeutic in its own sad way.
Likewise.

The needs of the spirit are different from the needs of the mind.

I wish I could give you some advice, but I'm a 41 year old virgin
Women (and men for that matter) hardly acknowledge my existence at this point

Don't be like me - that's the only advice that I can say

I can't believe I'm saying this but I'll be sad if there isn't a war. Because that's what it will take to make the world halfway decent again. Unless some miracles happen.

Getting a decent job and finding a woman is extremely difficult though. I can easily get a job that pays enough to live off of, but getting a job that pays enough to support a wife and children is different. Furthermore, even if I could support a wife and kids, I feel that once that happens I'll have to focus so much more on my family that I won't be able to focus on larger career or self development goals

op where did you go? also bump

Who?

Maybe you're trying to communicate something to yourself. Sometimes the answers can come from within. Calm your mind (meditation) and let all the noise from the outside world fade away, and trust your human intuition. The inner universe is bigger than the outer universe.

If you need to ask others for motivation and tell them how smart you really are you're probably weak and not that intelligent to begin with and should just give up on your dreams because if you can't find the drive to pursue your higher self you never really cared that much to begin with and are just looking for a magical way out of pain, suffering and growth like a nigger. All I'll say is disipline comes from within and that's the only quote you EVER need to know.