U.S. government shutdown

who does /pol think is responsible for the shutdown. Democrats or Republicans

It is the dems but it shall remain down...
"Non essential workers"

What is aleppo ?

Both

what's the argument for blaming republicans

Trump is a republican

not negotiating with the dems enough??? IDK

Neither...... its Stephen Miller and a few others sabotaging the bipartisan deals.

Democrats are objectively responsible for it; they voted against funding the government

Trump turning down a bipartisan deal dems and reps came up with.

The Dems want something and until the Reps give them it they're indirectly responsible for keeping the government shut

Lots of share blue shills on Sup Forums today/tonight. So many shill posts and slide threads.

Pretty obvious the dems are to blame, trying to expand their base via illegal immigrants.

Jokes on them though. Repubs are going to pass a federal voter I'd law. Watch how quick dems drop illegals. Faster then a dem that thinking of getting an abortion(the share blue fags here, their moms should have done the same).

100% Democrats. Unless what Schumer says is true and Trump is 15 Senators in a trench coat.

They're also going to lower the number of seats California has by changing the census rules

Republicans control all three branches.
soooooooooooooo

Dems think its a moral imperative to sneak DACA through in any way but more to the point this was all about trying to humiliate Trump on his 1yr. They're in the wrong on both counts, hope this raises the alarms for all the half-awake imbeciles out there.

Obviously the democrats. Is that even up for debate?

Shills like:

Cuck

B8?

The framers. This is the way the government is supposed to work. The bad part is that the government is so fucking overgrown that the threat of shutdown seems so apocalyptic in the first place. Too large a role in society. Objectively speaking a government that struggles to do anything without general agreement than a government that struggles for things to do. Busybodies looking for problems to solve and passing legislation quickly drive this country into the ground faster than anything. Some thoughtful deliberation about a controversial issue is a good thing. For my money I'd rather see the so called dreamers kicked the fuck out, but not a lot of people take a stand for ideology and obvious personal benefit these days.

the Republicans aren't even unified in the current votes. the majority party can't even get all their senators to vote for the CR. given that they can't even clear 51 votes in their own ranks, bringing over Democrats is mathematically necessary. But they're sitting on their hands and not appropriately prying off enough democratic votes.

trump couldn't cast a deciding vote in the senate though, that would be pence right? I guess pence is definitely more of a republican than trump so maybe that makes sense obliquely. still pretty confused tbph

First,they need 60 for this vote. Second, dems are to blame because their hoping to expand their voter base, via illegal immigrants. As I said earlier, jokes on them since federal voter I'd laws will be in place before then.

You're the same shill that made the "IQ differences not from genes" thread

Republicans because Trump said in 2013 during that shutdown that any shutdown is due to the president at the time.

>ences not from genes
no I have no idea what your talking about

furthermore I would disagree with the argument that iq does not come from genes

It's the Dems fault. But regardless, I'm just glad we FINALLY have a president with balls. Usually, Republicans agree to get fucked in the ass, to keep the government open.

Not this time faggots.

#Trump2020

Think about it like this, I figured out that thread was yours.... do you think a nigger, under ANY circumstances, could have figured that out?

It's in the genes.

I personally would agree its rather stupid that dems made an issue out of nothing. when it would be debated later.

read my fucking post again I agree with your agrument

Need to go nuclear.
McConnell needs to be fired.
If DACA gets passed we gonna be pissed.

Mr. Acosta, you knew this was a disingenuous argument on Friday and were quickly forced to admit your feigned partisan ignorance. Did you think our memories are as short as yours?

Here's to hoping your right.

I agree just look at how smug the dems are after fucking with peoples lives because of some petty argument about daca . That proves they do not care about the american people

The Democrats being corrupt faggots

annon are you in government?

>Trump>Republicans≥Dems
Republicans didn't even fully support the bill and it was a meme vote to protect eachother for reelection. If Trump wasn't so focused on flying down to Florida for adultery he could run this country, but sadly his mind melts as the Reps/Dems fill their pocket and blame him for their lies/treason.

I didn't say you disagreed, I'm just saying what I said.

Lmao, nah. But figured someone would make the joke connection

Illuminati.

BOII the president does not have as much power as you think . He only has the ability to sign laws that congress passes ,and control war efforts. It is actual highly unconstitutional to do executive order ,but that is the only way things are done now

more like the (((iluminati)))

Not giving in to the dems ransom demands.

Still the head of his party. This whole shit should have been dealt with a long time ago but like always both parties drag their feet and say we want we want. Dems should sign the bill and republicans should give them the time of day for DACA or some form of 'amnesty for smart illegals'. No one respects each other anymore so it is just a constant grab for power.

FUCKING TRUMP

trying to find a side to blame is why we have this problem.

In my opinion trump is the first president in a while who is looking out for the american people, the rest are either cucks or commies with the exception of a few what we realy need is term limits forcongress and the house

I dont work for the government and I'm not on government assistance so who cares

just wanted to see /pols opinions

Not giving amnesty to a bunch of people who entered the US via questionable means.

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oh if this goes on long enough you will soon

it was dems and cucks who did this shutdown in my opinion. the cucks are almost as bad as the (((dems)))