Why is it considered taboo to openly discuss how much money you make? I make $17 an hour what’s the big deal?

Why is it considered taboo to openly discuss how much money you make? I make $17 an hour what’s the big deal?

It's so you don't realize how badly you're getting screwed and start asking for more.

in dead end loser jobs it isnt an issue.
everyone is making the same. - minimum wage,

in the proper world salraies are negotiated. you may or may not have got a better deal than your peers. when others/you find out they/you start complaining,
Also its none of anyone elses business

I make about $1,200/day

how do you feel now OP?

bad? thats why sharing this info is offensive to some ppl

I sell airplane parts
Last year I earned $135K

People get butthurt if they make less than $10 usd.

Unless you're in Scandinavia where everybody's salaries are publicly disclosed and as the result the region has only the highest salaries per capita in world.

Hiding salaries benefits only one person, and it's your boss/owner.

Why would that make anyone feel bad. I'm happy you've got a good thing going if true.

I make 34 Leafbucks / hour. This is enough for the provincial and federal government to think I'm rich and therefore should be taxed into poverty, so the government can pay for me to produce less.

Fun fact: I received a 1.75% raise this year and take home 34 fewer dollars every two weeks.

I make 85k to fix the code of people who make 100+. Fucking sucks but I cucked my own salary negotiations. Still a lot for where I live but I need to renegotiate.

Ah so negative $100USD. In Canadian cuck money you pay boss.

Fun fact: your employer pays you only a fraction of the money that you generate for the company. The company takes from you multiple magnitudes more than the government ever does in taxes.

What? You mean the people that invested their time, money, and effort to build a company up from nothing are rewarded more than a wage slave that shows up and hammers cheques? No shit the company benefits from my labor. They also reinvest the money they earn to make a bigger company that earns even more. And no, I know what my time is charged out at and I know the expenses I cause. The government takes and wastes for more of the true value of my labor than the company, who tends to reinvest.

Not discussing it is simply a good way to save more of it.

this makes information unequal between negotiating parties - your boss knows everyone's salaries, but you only know your own. you are put at a disadvantage and not able to negotiate in good faith with your employer, because they are hoarding information from you so that you get a bad deal. that's not fair

owners invest money and that's ALL they invest. and when they get profits from their investments, they pocket that shit and invest it elsewhere

all the time and effort comes from workers

Why do you get off by making people feel bad? It's not like being wealthy doesn't come with its own can of worms.
What a dick.

$35 an hour

Work my ass off. I'm working now on the other monitor.
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>You mean the people that invested their time, money, and effort to build a company up are rewarded more are rewarded more than a wage slave that shows up and hammers cheques?

These wage slaves, as you call them, are the people who generate ALL profits for the company, without which the company would come to a grinding halt. These people are where the profits come from. They generate the revenue and sell the product.

> No shit the company benefits from my labor.

I'm not saying that they don't, I'm saying that if there is anybody you should be mad at with regards to how much money you have left over after taxes, is your employer.

> They also reinvest the money they earn to make a bigger company that earns even more.

Yeah, and how much of that reinvested money do you see? Ohh yeah, 1.75% a year raise (if you're lucky), which is not even enough to cover inflation. While each year you generate more and more money for the company, you see none of it.

> And no, I know what my time is charged out at and I know the expenses I cause.

Are you a contractor? where do you get this information?

> The government takes and wastes for more of the true value of my labor than the company, who tends to reinvest.

How could you possible know how much is wasted in the government vs how much your employer wastes? How do you even define "waste"?

I would only feel badly if I made significantly more than the people around me. It is just safer not to discuss it.

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I hope you get paid hourly. I make 70k which is 38/hr with my hours I keep. Never 40 in a week is my hard rule.

Nope.
It's actually $31/hr

>35 an hour
>work my ass off
>what a 2 year public school aid gets
>24 years old

lol k keep working there bud.

>Low quality communist bait

35/hr is pretty good

i make 60 bucks a week with english lessons

I'm a sous chef at wendys, making 18hr plus benifits, I'll tell anyone that cares cause people think you can't make good money in fast food

For anything less than a bach’ degree; maybe?

Otherwise, its what pizza boys/uber drivers make here in ca.

I often have people tell me how much they are worth/earn. I am not sure why. Personally I never tell anyone. When others know that you are wealthy, it causes problems.

>These wage slaves, as you call them, are the people who generate ALL profits for the company, without which the company would come to a grinding halt. These people are where the profits come from. They generate the revenue and sell the product.
And without the owner's capital investment none of those jobs would exist. The owners made the greatest investment (including their time) and reap the greatest rewards.
>I'm not saying that they don't, I'm saying that if there is anybody you should be mad at with regards to how much money you have left over after taxes, is your employer.
Why? I'm free to negotiate a higher wage. I'm fairly compensated and I have no liability in the company should it go tits up.
>Yeah, and how much of that reinvested money do you see? Ohh yeah, 1.75% a year raise (if you're lucky), which is not even enough to cover inflation. While each year you generate more and more money for the company, you see none of it.
Well, I've invested in the company which, through and employee share plan, I receive an extra 35% plus quarterly dividends, soooooo enough to find my retirement?
>Are you a contractor? where do you get this information?
I'm an internal employee with access to burdened cost reports. Also, I could just ask management, check public filings, orrrrrr I could figure out my department's stationary budget, floor rent, computer expenses, and pension liabilities to figure it out. Of course, I'm not a socialist retard. That makes it easier for me.
>How could you possible know how much is wasted in the government vs how much your employer wastes? How do you even define "waste"?
Have you seen the federal budget or your provincial budget? Do you see what is being bought for that debt that the me and my kids will be paying for? It's pretty easy to find waste.

You do know California has a ridiculous cost of living right? I could live in fucking nowhere for all you know and live like a king

I know I'm underpaid

I sell body parts.
Last year I made a killing charging an arm and a leg.

You’re hanging out with the wrong people.

Jesus Christ, are you Polish?

I'm not a communist. Just pointing out where the profits come from and how they're extracted from you. Everybody should be aware how the employer-employee relationship is arranged.

It really doesn't, if you can’t find rent thats under 20% of your net monthly income here (ignoring min wage obviously), you’re functionally retarded and dont earn a decent wage to begin with. The western states (even Nevada, tons of tax returns showed up at our firm in the last 3 years from places like fucking Reno) are the only decent place to earn money easily. Otherwise, it’s you, willingly admitting your underpaid and living on 35/hr in whats most likely some midwest mutt shithole.

Beacuse people dont know anything about finances

I guess I should just open up my own engineering firm out of thin air because my employer is only paying me a fraction of what I produce. I'm sure nothing could go wrong following your perfect logic. I must seize the means of my production

sorry muhbro, but you need to get another job to get that big raise. In that process myself..

The botnet pays me $300,000 a year

Wages are also ridiculously inflated in CA. I would surely be making upwards of 100k there. I have a retard friend that makes well over 100k there. We don't hire Cali tards because they think their medicore skills are worth a billion dollars.

Congratulations. Your perspective is skewed and most of your salary goes to your landlord or paying for mexican english classes

I make roughly 12$ an hour.

Not working gives me 9 an hour for free...

Fucking Aussie cunts fucking shit posting.

Didnt buy into the trade meme huh? Im an RF screen room builder/conractor. 2x2 pine and a (redacted)gauge of copper wire to build the room to a very spesific size, costs about $600, sells for about 10,000. I make about 2-6 a year for amazon and other companies in Sunnyvale on 1000 SV drive. Also I move their sound rooms. About 60 grand a year, I work for 3 or so mo ths a year and the fly to and from SJA.

Salty, but who wouldn’t be when mexican girl undergrads out earn you.

Family does what the market does cheaper to a hundredth degree. My perspective isn't skewed, my family wasn't retarded enough to settle somewhere shitty. This refers to cost of living/property fyi. Even without it, it’s easy as fuck to find rooms for like 500 SoCal and 350 in Norcal.

>And without the owner's capital investment none of those jobs would exist.

Capital is useless without labour. Labour is not useless without capital.

"What would these slaves do without the slave owner's land?" -18th century slave owner.
"What would these people do without this capitalist's investments? -21st century wage slave

>The owners made the greatest investment (including their time) and reap the greatest rewards.

The greatest investment? What exactly did they owner do? All the work was done by the workers that the owner hired to build the company. Just because the initial investment was done by one person, that should not give him the right to keep everybody's total produced value in perpetuity.


> Why? I'm free to negotiate a higher wage.

Why don't you? It sounds like you're unhappy about your salary, since you're mad at how much you have left over after taxes.

> Well, I've invested in the company which, through and employee share plan, I receive an extra 35% plus quarterly dividends, soooooo enough to find my retirement?

I don't believe you receive anything from company. 35% of what?


> Have you seen the federal budget or your provincial budget? Do you see what is being bought for that debt that the me and my kids will be paying for? It's pretty easy to find waste.

Do you see yachts and houses and cars that your owners pay with your hard earned dollars!

And people give me shit for wanting a cabin in the woods.
Holy hell government sucks dicks.

I have an ok salary, solid bonus structure and a great side hustle. but that's meaningless if you live in a large metro.

>base salary - 75k
>bonuses - 30-50k
>side hustle 50k-100k (tracking 65k right now)

guess what? I even in the top 10% in the metro area. this is ridiculous.

>I guess I should just open up my own engineering firm out of thin air because my employer is only paying me a fraction of what I produce.

You really should, everybody should, but they can't because they don't have enough money, because most of it is being siphoned off by your employer.

> I'm sure nothing could go wrong following your perfect logic. I must seize the means of my production

Most people are not even remotely aware of what's going on, and are not willing to learn.

This
When you make shit you don't want people to think less of you, when you make more you don't want people to be envious, unless of course you're in an obviously superior profession
Best you can do if middle class is have a nice house a modest (but new) car. After that nobody bothers to ask questions

I hope you enjoy hearing miguel in the room beside you masturbate you a lullaby.

I'll be enjoying my townhouse

It's considered taboo because openly discussing salaries might lead workers to negotiate higher salaries since everybody would now know how much everyone else is making. Example case: Norway. All salaries are publicly disclosed in Norway, result: Top 5 highest salaries in the world.

You rent a condo, don’t dignify it by calling it a townhouse.

underated.

I make $600k a year plus volunteer 1000 hours a year.

if you are doing the same exact job as your coworker and find out he's making 20% more than you, you'll be pissed

people care more about how their wage relates to fellow coworkers than they do about the value itself

>that's not fair

If you think it's unfair, this makes you a dirty commie, apparently.

It’s up to you to discuss it, but go ahead and see how many times sharing all your private info comes back to bite you in the ass.

This. Its why it's taboo. Its so your boss can jew you.

Low class. Just shut up

It's a social construct created by the majority of working class people. The ability to keep your information private is paramount to becoming self reliant and sufficient. Your employer can't legally disclose your payroll information because it's an invasion of privacy, not because it gives your boss leverage while negotiating agreements between you and the company.

Nobody is stopping you from speaking. You're just going to have to deal with the consequences of revealing your economic power level.

People pay that much to fuck you in the ass? HOLY FUCK

People completely understand that they are being fucked. Quit reiterating shit like a communist.