The truth about Jews and the Holohoax

[Christopher Wright]

The changing number of alleged dead at Auschwitz:

9,000,000 Cited by the French documentary, Night and Fog, which has been shown to millions of school students worldwide.

8,000,000 The French War Crime Research Office, Doc. 31, 1945.

7,000,000 Also cited by the French War Crime Research Office.

6,000,000 Cited in the book “Auschwitz Doctor” by Miklos Nyiszli. It has since been proven that this book is a fraud and the "doctor" was never even at Auschwitz, even though the book is often cited by historians.

5,000,000 to 5,500,000 Cited in 1945 at the trial of Auschwitz commander Rudolf Hoess, based on his “confession” which was written in English, a language he never spoke.

5,000,000 Cited on April 20, 1978 by the French daily, Le Monde. Also cited on January 23, 1995 by the German daily Die Welt. By September 1, 1989, Le Monde reduced the figure to 1,433,000.

4,500,000 In 1945 this figure was cited by another witness at the aforementioned Hoess trial.

4,000,000 Cited by a Soviet document of May 6, 1945 and officially acknowledged by the Nuremberg War Crimes trial. This figure was also reported in The New York Times on April 18, 1945, although 50 years later on January 26, 1995 (see below), The New York Times and The Washington Post slashed the figure to 1,500,000 citing new findings by the Auschwitz Museum officials. In fact, the figure of 4,000,000 was later repudiated by the Auschwitz museum officials in 1990 (see below) but the figure of 1,500,000 victims was not formally announced by Polish President Lech Walesa until five years after the Auschwitz historians had first announced their discovery.

[Ian Morales]

3,500,000 Cited in the 1991 edition of the Dictionary of the French Language and by Claude Lanzmann in 1980 in his introduction to Filip Muller's book, “Three Years in an Auschwitz Gas Chamber.”

3,000,000 Cited in a forced confession by Rudolf Hoess, the Auschwitz commander who said this was the number of those who had died at Auschwitz prior to Dec. 1, 1943. Later cited in the June 7, 1993 issue of Heritage, the most widely read Jewish newspaper in California, even though three years previously the authorities at the Auschwitz museum had scaled down the figure to a minimum of 1,100,000 and a maximum of 1,500,000. (see below).

2,500,000 Cited by a famous "witness to the Holocaust," Rudolf Vrba, when he testified on July 16, 1981 for the Israeli government's war crimes trial of former SS official Adolf Eichmann.

2,000,000 Cited by no less than three famous Holocaust historians, including Leon Poliakov (1951) writing in “Harvest of Hate”; Georges Wellers, writing in 1973 in “The Yellow Star at the Time of Vichy”; and Lucy Dawidowicz, writing in 1975 in “The War Against the Jews.”

2,000,000 to 4,000,000 Cited by Israeli historian Yehuda Bauer in 1982 in his book, “A History of the Holocaust.” However, by 1989 Bauer revised his figures and determined that the actual number was lower: 1,600,000.

1,600,000 This is a 1989 revision by Israeli historian Yehuda Bauer of his earlier figure in 1982 of 2,000,000 to 4,000,000, Bauer cited this new figure on September 22, 1989 in The Jerusalem Post, at which time he wrote' 'The larger figures have been dismissed for years, except that it hasn't reached the public yet."

[James Harris]

1,500,000 In 1995 this was the “official" number of Auschwitz deaths announced by Polish President Lech Walesa as determined by the historians at the Auschwitz museum. This number was inscribed on the monument at the Auschwitz camp at that time, thereby "replacing" the earlier 4,000,000 figure that had been formally repudiated (and withdrawn from the monument) five years earlier in 1990. At that time, on July 17, 1990 The Washington Times reprinted a brief article from The London Daily Telegraph citing the "new" figure of 1,500,000 that had been determined by the authorities at the Auschwitz museum. This new figure was reported two years later in a UPI report published in the New York Post on March 26, 1992. On January 26, 1995 both The Washington Post and The New York Times cited this 1,500,000 figure as the new "official" figure (citing the Auschwitz Museum authorities).

1,471,595 This is a 1983 figure cited by historian Georges Wellers who (as noted previously) had determined, writing in 1973, that some 2,000,000 had died. In his later calculation, Wellers decided that of the 1,471,595 who had died at Auschwitz, 1,352,980 were Jews.

1,433,000 This figure was cited on September 1, 1989 by the French daily, Le Monde, which earlier, on April 20, 1978, had cited the figure at 4,000,000.

1,250,000 In 1985, historian Raul Hilberg arrived at this figure in his book, “The Destruction of the European Jews.” According to Hilberg, of those dead, some 1,000,000 were Jews.

[Oliver Edwards]

1,100,000 to 1,500,000 Sources for this estimate are historians Yisrael Gutman and Michael Berenbaum (later of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum) in their 1984 book, “Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp”; also Dr. Franciszek Piper, the curator of the Auschwitz Museum, writing a chapter in that book. This estimate was later also cited by Walter Reich, former director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, writing in The Washington Post on September 8, 1998. The upper figure of 1,500,000 thus remains the "official" figure as now inscribed at Auschwitz, with the earlier figure of 4,000,000 having been removed from the memorial at the site of the former concentration camp.

1,000,000 Jean-Claude Pressac, writing in his 1989 book “Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers.” This is interesting since he wrote his book to repudiate so-called "Holocaust deniers" who were called that precisely because they had questioned the numbers of those who had died at Auschwitz.

900,000 Reported on August 3, 1990 11, by Aufbau, a Jewish newspaper in New York.

800,000 to 900,000 Reported by Gerald Reitlinger in his 1953 book, “The Final Solution.” This figure is notable, considering the fact that it reduces the Auschwitz death total from the 4,000,000 figure that was widely in vogue in 1953.

[Jaxson Miller]

775,000 to 800,000 Jean-Claude Pressac's revised figure, put forth in his 1993 book, “The Crematoria of Auschwitz: The Mass Murder's Machinery”, scaling down the figure from Pressac's 1989 claim of 1,000,000 dead. At this juncture, Pressac said that of the new number, 630,000 were Jews.

630,000 to 710,000 In 1994 Pressac scaled his figure down somewhat further; this is the figure cited in the German language translation of Pressac's 1993 book originally published in French. Again, this is substantially less than Pressac's 1989 figure of 1,000,000.

73,137 This figure was reported in The New York Times on March 3, 1991 and was based entirely on the wartime German concentration camp records that had been captured by the Soviets and just recently released. According to this figure, of those dead, 38,031 were Jews. These records state that the total of all persons who died in the ENTIRE German prison camp system from 1935 to 1945 were 403,713. To repeat: a total of 403,713 persons of all races and religions was officially recorded to have died (of all causes. typhus, old age, measles, etc.-and execution) in the entire prison camp system over a 10 year period. Of those 403,713 a total of 73,137 died at Auschwitz. Of those 73,137 who died at Auschwitz, 38,031 were Jews.

[Dominic Smith]

Were there a handful of crematoriums? Yep. Millions were interned in POW camps at various times. They were good-sized cities and typhus (what Anne Frank died of towards the end of the war in March of 1945) was rampant. It was a necessity.

Enough to cremate gorzilllions in 3 years? Nope. Not even close, a ridiculous proposition. In fact the handful there actually were were multiplied many times over by fake ones built post-war... and still not anywhere close to enough. This is all thoroughly documented. Plus it's basic math.

Were jews treated for disease and delousing? Yep.

Were jews "gassed" in some sort of overly complicated Rube Goldberg method of mass killing? Nope.

Did jews die? Yep. Especially towards the end of the war as there wasn't enough food and supplies to take care of the Germans themselves, much less jew POWs. Why do you think the allies found camps full of ALIVE albeit starving jews? And the dead jews found, dead due to starvation? GASSING DOESN'T MAGICALLY MAKE YOU SKINNY.

Did 6 jews million die? Nope. Again, basic math in regards to the jew population post-war. 300,000-900,000 died in camps do to a combination of disease and starvation. There was NO multi-million scale organized mass killing of jews.

Is history written by the victors? Yep.

Has the holohoax been used to maintain and expand jew control upon the world? Yep.

Is jew power linchpinned to this fabrication and this is why kikes conduct a continual propaganda spin campaign? Yep.

And they are fully prepared to do so for the next 1,000 years.

[Benjamin Young]

Pic: jews initially claimed all 30+ POW camps were "extermination camps".

Then every single camp captured by the US showed zero evidence of gas chambers or any other form of systematic mass killing.

ONLY the Soviets claimed they found evidence of large scale gas chamber killing... after refusing outside investigators for years... and after (now admittedly) RECONSTRUCTING the camps.

What a coincidence!

[Ian Wilson]

Soviet reconstructions and other lies exposed, ON SITE, here:

youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_WSV4n-u8

[Asher Butler]

Video investigating the history of the "homicidal gas chambers" lies of Majdanek:

TWO MILLION claimed deaths down to 78k... (((whoops)))... (((honest mistake))) goyim... the "holocaust" still happened just as we told you though... don't question it.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ip2LoLF3RzM

[Eli Perez]

Jews claim 900,000 kikes were gassed and cremated at Treblinka 2.

simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treblinka_extermination_camp

Treblinka was open from July 23, 1942, to October 19, 1943.

That means 6,000 executions and cremations a day if magically running 24/7 without interruption.

12,000 a day if magically running 12 hours a day.

A body leaves behind 7 pounds of ash, the size of a shoe box.

900,000 x 7 pounds = 6,300,000 pounds or 3,150 tons

sturmfh.com/34/Cremation-Services.html

Roughly the size and weight of 40 Blue Whales

All buried in this tiny corner of the 33 acre camp.

Never to be found again.

[Dominic Mitchell]

Let's also recall some of the numerous times jews invoked 6 million, their magic Talmud number... pic related.

And here's a video of a guy simply reading old newspaper articles about the 6 million... PRE-WW2... that's all he's doing... it's been restricted in the US... it's probably completely unavailable if you live in Europe... what an odd thing to censor, a guy literally just reading old newspaper articles. Curious.

youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

if blocked

hooktube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

[Gavin Butler]

What was life really like at the Auschwitz "extermination camp"?

Auschwitz "holocaust survivor" jews interviews, in their own words... watch this.

youtube.com/watch?v=A7wwArD6MTc

Orchestras

Painting

Sports

Medical care

Ballet

Beer

Movie theaters

etc.

Was it a jew "extermination camp"? Or a POW camp where people died towards the end of the war due to starvation and disease?

[Ayden Lewis]

Some other good videos:

youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A

youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_WSV4n-u8

youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk

youtube.com/watch?v=PE56dcgGVMs

[Dominic Sullivan]

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[Gavin Carter]

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[Jason Reyes]

there was no jewish holocaust

[Angel King]

Is the French kike here yet?

[Daniel Rodriguez]

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[Samuel Collins]

>Is the French kike here yet?
Any moment, he's JIDF.

thejidf.org

thejidf.org/2008/10/about-jidf.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force

youtube.com/watch?v=7dGJDJoeAok

[Wyatt Thomas]

>And they are fully prepared to do so for the next 1,000 years.

>be a jew
>get gassed 3 times and survive the 4th after hitler runs out of jew killing gas

[Adam Jenkins]

i mean not all the nazis were killed. what did they say about the 6 million number?

[Ryan Diaz]

>be a jew
>survive getting gassed 6 times

[Samuel Martin]

>be a jew
>blood catches on fire

[Kayden Taylor]

>what did they say about the 6 million number?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

[Adam Sullivan]

>be a jew
>navigate a nazi moving knife chamber
>climb a 80 ft tall pile of human ash
>die in a nazi acid pond
>scare the neighbors

[Jaxson Lopez]

>be a jew
>AVOID getting gassed because you're hungry

[Aiden James]

>be a jew
>get raped by specially trained nazi rape dogs

[Jaxson Clark]

>be a jew
>get turned into jewish sausage and eaten by hitler

[Benjamin Gomez]

>be a jew
>get balls chewed off by nazi rape dogs
>escape your death camp in a pile of clothes

[Daniel Morris]

>le greatest documented genocide in human history didnt happened me so smarrt

imgur.com/a/725A7

[Michael Mitchell]

>be a jew
>get dunked in a nazi carnival dunk tank
>get vaporized into jew dust by 10 gorbillion volts

[Carter Fisher]

there were actual holocausts in china and russia. why not talk about them?

[Owen Harris]

hmm that would scare people to going with the lie. the whole concept sounds fake a shit like why the fuck would you make a concentration camp for labor at all with death camps as well? why not just make death camps?

[Aiden Jones]

Nice reply to all the evidence presented, kike.

I'll also refer you to the pic

[Justin Cox]

Coincidence, goyim?

[Adrian Young]

>be a jew
>get tickled to death by hitler

[Asher Morales]

every time you bring those up the response is always "it wasn't real communism"

[Daniel Scott]

>be a jew
>get thrown into the eagles and bears cage by hitler

[Brayden Gonzalez]

>(((ussr communism)))
oy vey

[Hudson Bennett]

>be a jew
>get masturbated to death by hitler

[Jaxson Price]

>that dupers delight face she gets while saying it

lol

[Luke Cox]

>be 20,000 jews
>get vaporized into nothingness by a nazi death star laser

[Andrew Martin]

>be jews
>hitler tricks you into eating a jew baby

>dupers delight face
good catch

[Nolan Cox]

>be a jew
>get spanked by a nazi robot

[Joseph Diaz]

>>le greatest documented genocide in human history didnt happened me so smarrt
Ok, so it's the greatest documented genocide in history. How many got killed?

[Brandon Rivera]

>be jews
>know the prophecy says 6 million have to die for you to get israel back
>convince the whole world that this happened
>get israel back
>pretend god doesn't know you lied

[Justin Perry]

What is a foundation myth?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_myth

It fulfills three functions.

1) It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society).

2) It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power).

3) It determines what is held sacred in that society.

For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions.

1) We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII.

2) Ultimate evil is Nazis. Ultimate good is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on.

3) The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust.

The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative.

Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction.

Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the personification of evil, holds the center point of the WWII story.

Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity.

**Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned**

This is by jew design.

[Joseph Green]

>This is by jew design.

[Evan Ward]

>This is by jew design.

[Caleb Sanders]

C'mon, don't be shy. It's the greatest documented genocide in history. So how many got killed?

[Angel Peterson]

>This is by jew design.

[Jack Kelly]

oy vey!

don't spread this meme around leading up to the game's release in about two months!

we need our shekels!

[Nathan Collins]

Quality thread. Thank you.

[Liam Perez]

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[Camden Collins]

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[Zachary Watson]

nice

[Sebastian Brooks]

So what is the number?
youtube.com/watch?v=0Ji_Y7YEbKY
From 03:00-04:00

[Andrew Diaz]

>OY VEY
>SHUT IT DOWN, WE NEED ANTISEMITISM LAWS
>JUST LOOK AT THESE MEMES!
>IT'S ANOTHA SHOAH!

youtube.com/watch?v=DtJ14KUB3Ew

[Angel Russell]

>the eminent American historian Harry Elmer Barnes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Elmer_Barnes#Holocaust_denial
nice sources

[Gavin Sanchez]

Don't forget the Auschwitz roller coaster of death

[Cameron Thomas]

I mean, this genocide is so well documented, that in many countries, you can get fined and even go to prison for denying it happened. Not for denying other genocides, that is allowed, just not the holocaust.
So how many got killed? Should be fairly fucking easy, considering it is the best documented genocide in history.

[Caleb Campbell]

youtube.com/watch?v=Koxa2fsoqyM&feature=youtu.be&t=23

[Jaxon Baker]

>Quality thread
yeah, hopefully it'll stay bumped, been trying to, gotta go now
looks like a case of the dispersing jew :/

[Adrian Diaz]

look, dude, there was a difference of the number of people after the war. Many of them died due to war actions in the East.
You also have to explain where all the trains with Jews from West/South Europe went:
Hungary 559,250
Germany 144,000
Czechoslovakia 143,000
Romania 120,919
Netherlands 102,000
France 76,000
Greece 58,443
Yugoslavia 51,400
Austria 48,767
Belgium 28,000
Bulgaria 7,335
Italy 5,596
WHERE DID THEY GO AND WHY DIDN'T THEY COME BACK?

[Adam Ramirez]

*disappearing

[Joshua Anderson]

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[Camden Thompson]

>You also have to explain where all the trains with Jews from West/South Europe went:
>Hungary 559,250
>Germany 144,000
>Czechoslovakia 143,000
>Romania 120,919
>Netherlands 102,000
>France 76,000
>Greece 58,443
>Yugoslavia 51,400
>Austria 48,767
>Belgium 28,000
>Bulgaria 7,335
>Italy 5,596
>WHERE DID THEY GO AND WHY DIDN'T THEY COME BACK?

can you actually prove literally all of these people were put on trains?

[Ethan Peterson]

god i wish that were me

[Parker Johnson]

I just read your entire link. Only the holocaust denial part. Maybe you should have read it too.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Elmer_Barnes#Holocaust_denial
"Barnes claimed that "court historians", to keep the public from getting "bored", manufactured stories about German crimes against humanity that were "made more unceasing, exaggerated and inflammatory".[32]

In response, the German historian Martin Broszat wrote a letter in 1962 clarifying and defining the differences between concentration and death camps.[32] In his letter to the Die Zeit newspaper, Broszat wrote that he wanted to "hammer home, once more, the persistently ignored or denied difference between concentration and extermination camps."[32] In his letter, Broszat claimed this was not an "admission" that there was no Holocaust, but rather an attempt to "set the record straight" about the differences between concentration and death camps.[32] Broszat noted the differences between concentration camps, which were places where the inmates were consistently mistreated, but were not the subject of annihilation, and death camps, which existed solely for the purpose of exterminating their inmates. Broszat denied there was a functioning gas chamber at the Dachau concentration camp (though he noted that one was built shortly before the end of the war as part of the effort to convert Dachau into a death camp, but was never used). Broszat commented that, though there were many concentration camps in Germany, all of the German death camps for the genocide of the European Jews were located in Nazi-occupied Poland.[32] Broszat argued that this confusion in the public's mind between concentration and death camps, and the tendency to erroneously describe Dachau as a death camp, was aiding the early Holocaust deniers like Rassinier, Hoggan, and Barnes, who made much of the fact that there was no functioning gas chamber at Dachau."
You don't win a discussing by crying anti-semitism.

[Hudson Kelly]

'death camp' doesnt even make any sense. if youre just killing people, you dont need a camp obviously.

[Michael Cooper]

What's your point? Please give neutral citations for "original claim" and "camps inspected by US".

[Aaron Hill]

>look, dude, there was a difference of the number of people after the war.
i.e.
>Let's not address the wildly varying numbers jews themselves have claimed....
>so let's change the subject, shall we?
nice pilpul
>WHERE DID THEY GO AND WHY DIDN'T THEY COME BACK?
Hmm, I remember hearing about this huge migration of jews to the US and to what is now Israel before, during and after the war... hmm... such a mystery.

>be a jew
>increase in numbers soon after the holohoax when supposedly HALF of your numbers were killed

[Aaron Hall]

That's not even 1,5 million jews. Even if your numbers are correct.

[Aaron Reyes]

If the holoHOAX was for real, why so many lies about it?

Lies like the one that had Jew ashes/fat used to make soap? Turned out to be a lie. The one that had Jew skin used to make lampshades? The one that had giant electrical mats used to electrocute Jews? Both LIES. The one that said Bergen-Belsen had homicidal gas chambers? The one that had the shrunken Jew heads? Both LIES. The one that said steam chambers were used to kill Jews? The one that said electrified water vats were used at Belzec and one that said 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz? Both LIES, since that number dropped to a little over one million, and that included non-Jews.

Then there's the LIES about Majdanek, which originally claimed around 600,000 dead Juden, but now the number has dropped to around 70K.

So if they LIED about Ausshitz and Majdanek, why and what else did the holoHOAX liars LIE about?

[Owen Sullivan]

you mean if I kept the tickets? I paid for their tickets with bitcoin, it's all on my ledger at MtGox.

1. there were people, registered citizens
2. they were transported on trains to Poland
3. 99.9999% of them did not come back

[Connor Walker]

Systematic killings of Jews during WW2 != Holohoax (popularized by American Jews btw)

[Brandon Price]

>What's your point?
That you think that Harry Elmer Barnes is invalild simply because he denied the Holocaust. There is nothing in your link that discredits him as an actual historian.

[Andrew Wright]

>Hmm, I remember hearing about this huge migration of jews to the US and to what is now Israel before, during and after the war... hmm... such a mystery.
Great!
Count the difference between how many were living in Europe vs incomers to Israel and USA and show me the difference.

[Charles Roberts]

If there is one thing the holohoax and (((hollywood))) has taught me is that jews have one crazy imagination and tell the craziest stories without shame.

[Dominic Myers]

NEW BREAD

[Carter Nguyen]

>Pic: jews initially claimed all 30+ POW camps were "extermination camps".

I love how you slyly switched from the text saying "death camps" to making the claim that the allies claimed every camp was an extermination camp.

Revisionist tomfoolery at work here, once more. Also, next time you try adding a scan (with page number, good boy!) to further cement your meme maps, try including the title of the book so that the goyim you want to redpill have it easier to confirm the existence of said book themselves.

Pic related shows how harmless your green camps really are.

P.S: Two of your green camps, Mauthausen and Stutthof, have homicidal gas chambers to this day, that historians say killed thousands.

That throws your entire theory about these facilities only existing in Poland out of the water, doesn't it?

[Juan Richardson]

most of the surviving Jews from East Europe survived only because they were evacuated with the Soviet Army during Barbarossa. The rest got killed very fast, usually by shooting.
So that explains a significant number of Jews migrating to USA plus Israel after the war.
Also, Stalin became publically anti-Semitic, so that pushed those migration numbers.

[Asher Ward]

Sticky please mods.

[Anthony Jenkins]

So how many got killed?

[John Long]

>Great!
>Count the difference between how many were living in Europe vs incomers to Israel and USA and show me the difference.

we really have no accurate figures on any of this

[Henry Baker]

>P.S: Two of your green camps, Mauthausen and Stutthof, have homicidal gas chambers to this day, that historians say killed thousands.

no they don't

[Samuel Rodriguez]

>Please give neutral citations for "original claim" and "camps inspected by US".
Hmm, how about the post-war division of Germany, genius, where all the US liberated camps showed NO large scale systematic killing (only death from typhus and starvation etc.) and magically the only ones that retained those claims (with refusals of outside inspection by the way) were in USSR captured/later Warsaw Pact territory.

You do know the general WW2/post-WW2 history, right? Is a basic map neutral enough for you?

[Luis Hill]

That's "camps inspected by US", but your map draws red lines to camps that are clearly on the Soviet side.

[Cameron Russell]

I see a lot of frindly fire(the allies bombing), typhus and "overwork" in your pic.
How many got killed by bears and eagles?

[Eli Bailey]

So you're just going to ignore the varied sourced pre and post war jew population numbers I posted, huh?

Oy vey.

[Aiden Turner]

daily reminder your numbers numbers aren't from historians.

The 9 million gambit in Night and Fog is a pure invention by Robert Faurisson from the beginning of the 1990s, that has been fully debunked in 2002 (in french), here: phdn.org/negation/faurisson/nuitetbrouillard.html

What must be underlined is that the famous "decreasing" list of Auschwitz death tolls (that is presented on e.g. codoh) is a Faurisson manipulation: most figures are NOT from historians' studies and have no historical value. Furthermore, they are displayed not in chronological order but in decreasing order, so as to give the reader the feeling that no serious toll was ever given and that it always kept going down. Sources are willingly given in evasive ways in order to make any verification difficult, if not impossible. The list has evolved and been modified, enriched with time, but it's a big fraud.

For example, the 8 and 7 million figure stem from the same book, authored by Eugene Aroneanu who, in 1945, gathered in the heat of the war's end some data and testimonies in a simple, not scholarly at all, way: Camps de concentration (Office français d'édition, 1945). Aroneanu purports to cite an official report from the O.R.C.G (Office de recherches des crimes de guerre) for the 8 million figure, but that report is nowhere to be found and that figure has never been used by anyone else anywhere else. So NO, it's not the "French War Crime Research Office, doc 31", as the Faurisson list says, that gives that figure, but rather Aroneanu, allegedly from a source that nobody has ever been able to check.

[Elijah Brown]

Correct me if I’m wrong by my very simple understanding was this:

>Bolshevik uprisings in Germany
>Germans don’t want to be communists
>Bolshevik are now the enemy
>remove enemy

It just so happened to be that 95% of Bolsheviks we Jewish - the reason why they were “persecuted”. Am I wrong on this?

[Mason Cruz]

The post continues with the 7 million figure also attributed to the "French War Crime Research Office". That's also a lie. It's again taken from Eugene Aroneanu's little book. It stems from a witness, Raphaël Feigelson, who is mentioned only once, only there to say that "according to Raphaël Feigelson there were 7 million victims". So of course, this figure is NOT from the "French War Crime Research Office". In both cases, deniers fail to cite the proper source (Aroneanu) and do not provide any way to verify (but unfortunately for the denier morons, Gilles Karmasyn from phdn did!)

The six millions figure is NOT in Nyiszli's book (there is the classical 4 million figure though). The 6 million figure attributed to Nyiszli is in fact due to his translator (to french) Tibère Kremer, who put up this number (without source or even qualification) in a preface to the first appearance of Nyiszli's story in french in 1951, in the french periodical, Les Temps Modernes («S.S. Obersturmführer Docteur Mengele. Journal d'un médecin déporté au crématorium d'Auschwitz», Les Temps Modernes, mars 1951, no 65). This number disappears from the first edition as a book, in 1961 (Médecin à Auschwitz: souvenirs d'un médecin déporté, Juillard), even though Kremer provides a preface to that edition as well. Kremer, though he was in the French Resistance, had no particular qualification to be able to properly estimate a death toll for Auschwitz. So this figure is like most of the others in the list: it has no significance within Auschwitz historiography, no impact at all and Nyiszli should of course not be held responsible for it.

[Lucas Russell]

The 5 million figure from Le Monde in 1978 is mentioned in a small insert in an article about the 35th birthday of the Warsaw ghetto uprising. Auschwitz is not even the subject of that insert, the figure is merely part of a sentence without source. It's bad journalism and has absolutely NO significance or impact on the actual historiography regarding Auschwitz's death toll. More than that: the alleged "1,433,000" figure from french newspaper Le Monde in 1989 is a lie. Le Monde never wrote there were 1,433,000 victims in Auschwitz. Another example of deniers being morons who can easily be debunked.

In fact it's easy to see that NONE of the figures above 4 million have any significance or impact. They were never uttered by historians, never used by historians, even never used at all anywhere else, outside the source they're taken from (if it's not a complete hoax source, as with the 9 million in night and fog, as claimed by Faurisson).

Figures taken from survivors have of course not much value since they were not in a position to know precise numbers, only to guess the scale of the murder. In fact if you take out witnesses, journalists and non-historians, what emerges is a very unsurprising distribution between one and two million (with anomalies that are well known and studied by Pressac, Meyer, and the infamous 4 million).

Very interestingly, the deniers who love Hoess fail to mention his main, most important, most valuable evaluation of the Auschwitz death toll, the one he wrote in his memoirs (from 1946!): 1,13 million.

Yet again an exhaustive and seemingly damning list gets torn apart with ridiculous ease by phdn scholar Gilles Karmasyn, proving deniers are nothing but a charade-ridden bunch of incompetent falsifiers.

[Aaron Nguyen]

The last figure lists the number of official deaths (as recorded by Nazi clerks) from the camp inmate population, in the camp death books. Keep in mind all the children, infants with mothers, sick, cripples, elderly and others who didn't make the cut during the Selektion process right off the train ramp were never admitted into the camp in the first place and were instead marched off along the train tracks toward the Crematoria buildings, where the "showers", aka the gas chambers were - they make up the bulk of Auschwitz's 1.1 million death toll. They never appear in any of the camp's "Sterbebücher" further discussed here: imgur.com/iDM1rP3

[Tyler Jenkins]

>It just so happened to be that 95% of Bolsheviks we Jewish - the reason why they were “persecuted”. Am I wrong on this?

Yes, you are wrong. If you aren't, well then you wouldn't have any problem refuting this image now, would you?

[Nathaniel Stewart]

So 6 million jews, That is your number?

[Joseph Reed]

If it was a hoax, why would they revise the figure? Revising the figure downwards proves they are trying to be honest and accurate.
Most of the items you list are not actually "changes", but a spread of estimates from different sources at different times.

[David Diaz]

>1,250,000 In 1985, historian Raul Hilberg arrived at this figure in his book, “The Destruction of the European Jews.” According to Hilberg, of those dead, some 1,000,000 were Jews.

Hilberg was using this figure from the mid 1950's, as were all other historians (serious researchers had established this at teh one to two million figure by 1950)

yes that book did not get published until the 1980's but he, adn every other serious researcher had sttled the figure thirty years before.

the fact that journalists, politicians and other non experts used the wrong figures is neither surprising nor significant.

[Ian Martin]

>If it was a hoax, why would they revise the figure?
Because it is a hoax...Not a good argument.
content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2077413,00.html
(MOSCOW) — A recently opened exhibition in Moscow's State Historical Museum is shedding some light on a long-guarded Russian secret: the origins of Soviet founding father Vladimir Lenin. Lenin's maternal grandfather, the exhibition revealed, was born Jewish.