Fascism/NatSoc Discussion

Those who support Fascism/NatSoc, or any political theory featuring a strong and powerful leader who keeps the system in check, how do you counter the fact that power can (and almost always) become corrupted?

I've become more open to these ideas, but this is one of the obstacles that has come up in my thinking. These leaders aren't chosen by the people because the idea is that the people don't know what's best for them. This was Plato's main critique of democracies, that it causes human manipulation on a grand scale. But what is a better alternative?

Let's say one of these leaders ushers in one of these systems and he's perfect for the role. He causes the economy to flourish, the people to become united, etc. What about when he dies? Who fills that role? Does he appoint a close friend of his that he trusts? How would this not degenerate into full on monarchical tyranny? This kind of system seems doomed to end in corruption. The same proponents of these political theories tend to be the same ones who deny Marxism for the same reason I'm pointing out, that power will always be corrupted since human nature itself opposes the system.

Could anyone with more knowledge of these systems give their input? I'd like to see a thoughtful discussion on this.

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your picture is 1488% accurate

It isnt you morons
Hitler confiscated all firearms

didn't he just confiscate them from his opponents

power will corrupt any leader, I might as well support the leader who says he's going to help me over the one who's openly going to fuck me

You misunderstand my friend, the fascist state is not meant to persist indefinitely, it is a necessary tool to transition from the soulless materialist nihilist hedonist (((globalist))) state to a strong and healthy traditionalist libertarian ethnostate. You can't eliminate corruption in every facet of society through flawed democracy, only diligent militant fascism is a functional solution to the Jewish Question.

>Hitler confiscated all firearms

False.

It was "liberal" Weimar Germany who in 1928 made the first comprehensive gun control law.

Hitler actually relaxed it a little.

I think a big majority of people in this board are religious, or at least spiritual. What is the solution then? To murder all that meet a certain criteria for degeneracy, as well as any other races? This just seems spiritually abhorrent to me, murdering your way to a utopian vision.

gas yourself
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_theory
>Few citizens owned, or were entitled to own firearms in Germany in the 1930s.[1] The Weimar Republic had strict gun control laws.[7] When the Third Reich gained power, some aspects of gun regulation were LOOSENED, such as allowing ownership for Nazi party members and the military.[4]:672 The laws were tightened in other ways. Nazi laws disarmed "unreliable" persons, especially Jews, but relaxed restrictions for "ordinary" German citizens.[4]:670,676

(((opponents))) and mentally ill otherwise he loosened gun laws for German citizens

There should be some kind of system which decides who gets the power over everything except that system. The details of that system are not important, but it could, for example, include testing young people for exceptional intelligence, honesty and sense of justice and educating them to be potential leaders and finally choosing the leader(s) from among them. But the important thing is that there are clear rules for how this happens and who gets chosen in the end.

And how do you prevent that system itself from becoming corrupt? Have people vote for the people who monitor that system and make sure there is no foul play involved. Their job is much simpler than the job of leading a country so it's ok to have people choose them.

Alright then i was misinformed

apologize to Hitler then

How did so many German women get raped if they had access to guns?

no ammo and they were obviously disarmed by Amerikikes during the occupation.

apologize and say Hitler did nothing wrong

Hitler was a reptilian pawn
My question, did he kill any real problemetic Jews he so despised and claimed to protect the world from or did that sneaky bastard made a deal with them and went after normie jews who were as asleep as all other normies

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.' I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... OP is a faggot

People (the general population) follow, and a small group of people lead, and gain more and more power. Weather it's under the guise of Nationalism, Communism, Religion, Product Consumerism, or Identity Politics. It's either you who goes up there and pulls the strings of society to a way you want it, or it's your enemy.

you've already made very vile and absolutely slanderous lies once in this thread. This latest accusation is reprehensible.

watch this

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Em0EzaPNQms

m.youtube.com/watch?v=FFZhv7KwAYI

I'm not sure why you removed the guy with the gun standing over the worker, or the man with his hand in the workers pockets.

National Socialism ran entirely upon debt, not only did National Socialism NOT reform the banks as promised, it barely even budged interest rates. It was exactly the same as capitalism, but with the German government funneling the entire German commons through the banks via crushing unsustainable debt.

And their make work programs were upheld by threats of imprison, and violence. And the disastrous labour-backed currency required slave labour to facilitate continual growth, and ultimately required free resources and forced market access, leading to ww2.

You children know nothing about National Socialism at all, to you it's just fashion that you drape yourselves with, you've never even tried to learn about it beyond ingesting simplistic propaganda designed by propagandists who wrote at great length about how to craft and utilize propaganda.

When you call yourself a National Socialist, you are just using fancy words to explain that you are vapid and mindless, incapable of critical thought, and too lazy to research anything for yourself let alone think about what you have learned.

The fact is that National Socialism was a very specific ideology crafted as propaganda to utilize as a vehicle for power. Most of its tenets were abandoned by its creators the moment power was obtained.
And even so, it was an ideology specifically created for a specific place at a specific time.
It didn't work then, it surely won't work now.

Genuine National Socialism would have to be constructed entirely for the logistics of a modern nation that wished to implement it.

But like I said, you don't care about reality or nuance, it's lost on you. It's all cosmetic to you.
You are SJW's engaging in identity politics, nothing more.

The only worthy form of government is a hereditary monarchy based on descent from ancient gods.


Otherwise power necessarily flows into the hands of whatever (shitskin crapmonkey faction) has the most guns.

>Otherwise
youtube.com/watch?v=AfuK_KJTRyg

Hitler was the most amazing Man on Earth!
you should watch your dirty lying mouth
m.youtube.com/watch?v=n840zXmlzak

Hitler was a pawn who went after normie jews
youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ytG8IpwQ

((()))
found the vile traitorous rat jew

are you jewish (or anyone related)
yes or no

>pol BTFO

>washington with an AK

Absolutely disgusting, kys.

Hero.

>gas yourself

Only an Absolute Monarchy is the way for civilization to redeem itself. National Socialism is just Authoritarian Leftism

Degeneracy is, at its core, a spiritual tumor in the womb of society. It is amoral and reprehensible to allow degenerate hedonism to sway the minds of children, and their influence on culture must be quelled if it is to remain wholesome and pure. By abandoning the traditions their ancestors set into place with sweat and blood for the sake of abject nihilist hedonist filth, heedless of the consequences for themselves and those around them, degenerates have abandoned their right to personhood, and cannot be murdered, only euthanized and freed from the self-inflicted blight on their minds. I don't like it, I am not a violent person, and I do not wish for violence, but if society as we know it is to survive, degenerates must leave or they must be removed.

Do not misunderstand, I do not hate other races because I love my own. I believe the white race is superior in some ways to other races, and inferior in some ways to other races. I believe that all races have the right to self-determination, and the right to a homeland, Europa belongs to the white race, as Africa belongs to the black race, as Asia belongs to the Asian race.

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