Do you enjoy homoeroticism in anime and manga?

Do you enjoy homoeroticism in anime and manga?

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Yes

No, this is a Christian board

I'm only putting up with the faggots and the traps in the manga (see Yuu's demon) just for the fujo tears when the time comes and Shinoa gets Yuu's D. Otherwise no, I hate it.

Not particularly, but I liked Doukyuusei and Yuri on Ice

I can no longer enjoy straight pairings.

So you only enjoy little boys?

But why user?

That's the only thing keeping me watching.

Yes, if it's coherently integrated in the story and not just shitty fanservice for fujo.

I enjoy it, but I'm not ok with people who enjoy it. They can get the fuck out.

inb4 protestant and catholic shitflinging

Shit MC. Kimizuki is the only reason im still watching

Hell yes.

So you're not okay with yourself?

all these guys have similar haircuts and i can't stand it
animation became shit soon and i dropped it

Only when it goes all the way

This, shitty baiting should not apply desu.

Honestly, I sort of want more anime/manga that don't play homosexuality as a gag. The only manga I can think of that portrays homosexuality correctly is Otouto no Otto and I don't think it's been updated in a while.

This but it almost never happens.

The scanlators stopped updating that because it's being published in English officially.

This

>Otouto no Otto
I was not expecting this from fucking tagame of all people.

>newfags who can't into doujins
Only tumblrinas care about canon.

Oh fuck. Why can't Tagame make more things like it?
All of his H-doujin involve clueless muscular guys getting gang raped. He can portray sweet moments well but his fetish is so fucking shit.

>clueless muscular guys getting gang raped
I fucking wish. You should see some his other manga they can be fucking extreme.

Doujins are okay but long series would be nice.

>I fucking wish. You should see some his other manga they can be fucking extreme.
I did, the rape thing was the least annoying I could find. The worst I saw was that Minotaur bullshit.
Fuck. Only Tagame and Mentaiko have beautiful bara art but their fetish is so fucking shit. Mentaiko is not as bad but his doujin feel like comedy most of the time.

>Minotaur
>Not the multiple body mutilation comics he's done
i mean if you skip those he's not bad. There are worse artists out there but his doujins can get fucked up.

>Be a leaf
>Is gay
Who would have thought?
Like clockwork.

>portrays homosexuality correctly
Indefinable. Just say "portrays homosexuality in a way I agree with".

Girls should be with girls and boys with boys.

Straight romance is what you're supposed to do, so it feels weak and mundane.
But gay romance is kinshi, so it feels much more powerful and romantic.

I mean I get what you saying, but there are some pretty good straight romances, here and there. Maybe not in anime particulary because LN shit and waifu culture.

Ikuhara why are you here

Sometimes I wish I was 2D so I had fujos worshipping me and fantasizing about me all the time. I'm not the only one right?

I thought there were some fujos so extreme that they ship even their classmates. Maybe just wish you were a Japanese high schooler like everyone else.

I like gay Christian animes.

I'm not even gay but I like bl.

I like watching gay porn, but I'm not gay.

Then you two must be females.

Not that user, but fuck off. You're probably 12 years old, turn off your pc and go play outside.
It's like saying: you watch horror anime, so you must be a serial killer.

You can enjoy a genre regardless of your sexuality
I'm a girl and I prefer bl and yuri over het

I want to see bl made by KyoAni.

Free?

It isn't bl.

It's weird for me. I fucking hate Shounen ai & Yaoi but enjoy "gay stuff" in regular anime like Saika in Oregairu and Shuri in Masamune-kun no Retard. I just like cute boys. and cute boys with a strong bromance is like heaven

>im a girl
Opinion discarded.

You know, it's kinda weird. Women can like Yuri without being gay. Gay dudes have no issue with straight romances.

But straight dudes seem to dislike BL, or at best they are neutral toward it. Why is that?

Because fags are disgusting.

This so much. If it's gay it's okay. If it's straight I hate.
Well, there are exceptions. But they're rare.

Yeah but only if one of the guys is cute.

masc x masc is gross

>Women can like Yuri without being gay
No, they're badmouthing on their backs for being lesbians.
>Gay dudes have no issue with straight romances.
>Gay dudes have no issue with straight romances.
Anons from It's time express their disgust for watching straight 2D relationships or simply ignore them completely. Which is really close to straight towards BL.

>tfw my friends and i made a pretty good love story about our guy friends
>tfw they actually were interested and often asked us how it was going.

>No, they're badmouthing on their backs for being lesbians.
user, most Yuri authors are lesbians, even Yuri magazines have tons of female readers (Most?).

>Anons from It's time express their disgust for watching straight 2D relationships or simply ignore them completely. Which is really close to straight towards BL.
Anecdotal evidence. You think fags can't like straight romance?

Men are taught since they're kids that they should do this and not that to be manly and stuff. It's a powerful incentive to not watch gay porn.
But then again I suspect they have the same distaste for BL mains I, as a grill, have for girls in harem and ecchis. Unrealistic characters they share genitals with, but can't relate to because they only exist to cater to the sexual/romantic desires of the opposite sex.

Most men are attracted to women. It's no more than that.

>But then again I suspect they have the same distaste for BL mains I, as a grill, have for girls in harem and ecchis. Unrealistic characters they share genitals with, but can't relate to because they only exist to cater to the sexual/romantic desires of the opposite sex.

I don't think that's the same thing, though. We are talking about normal love stories, not fanservice fueled stuff. Even some straight men may find harem boring.

I would say, let's compare "normal" stuff like No.6 to, I don't know, any straight love story you can think of.

>user, most Yuri authors are lesbians, even Yuri magazines have tons of female readers (Most?).
That doesn't change the badmouthing from straight women on their backs and now front for being lesbians or at least convince everyone else to keep their distance. It's in the female behavior to do so.
>You think fags can't like straight romance?
I think fags reading straight romance would be for selfinserting as the girl or to ignore that relationship and focus on other aspects of the story, perhaps secondary characters. Like Watashi ga motete dosunda.

>I think fags reading straight romance would be for selfinserting as the girl or to ignore that relationship
user, stop projecting. I'm a fag and I enjoy any well written romance, and I don't "self-insert", romance isn't about self-inserting necessarily.

I'm a shipper fag and I like both. But one thing I dont get why is that it is ok for people to crack ship two males character with zero romantic feeling for each other. While when the female lover is canon for the MC, it is heresy, and people don't even care if she is cucked by the male or is dead.

Example? Hide/Kaneki?

If I'm to believe the Yuri on Ice threads there were quite a few straight men who watched it and enjoyed it just fine.

Then what romance is about? Certainly not simply enjoy any well written piece of work but to actually care on the romantic interest/couple. To be a fag driven by straight couple emotions doesn't make you bi -empathy de facto- at least?

I blame korean fujos for this

I can fap to guys exchanging only glances. My brain erases the existence of any female on the screen. It's not that I hate them, it's that they don't exist. Every time two guys are rivals and stalk each other in anime, it's obvious they only need to fuck already. THAT, would be good writing.

>While when the female lover is canon for the MC, it is heresy, and people don't even care if she is cucked by the male or is dead
Because most heroines and canon love interest are boring animas en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anima_and_animus. An idealized reprensentation of what a woman should be. A waifu. They're the counterparts to the boring one dimensional main love interest in shojos. They're barely characters, and as a result don't, or rarely, have meaningful or interesting interactions with the MC. The one who usually does is either the MC's best friend or the rival. Sometimes his mentor. It's only logical that people would ship it.

I really think BL is much better at romance. Like, look at Re:zero or the dozens of other harem series that are popular right now -- the women in them are all facsimile. In every harem, there's always the tomboy, there's always the shy megane, there's always the tsundere class president, and worst of all, there's always the plain Jane. Like, look at the character most of Sup Forums considers to be the perfect waifu: Rem, a girl lacking in personality. Her sole purpose in life is Subaru; she has no goals, no dreams, nothing that makes her an actual character, only existing to prop up Subaru. Yet Sup Forums considers her to be the perfect waifu. So, basically what I'm saying is, in straight romances, the female is most of the times bland or generic. BL on the other hand is not restrained by these tropes. Yes, there are certain clichés, like the tall seme and the feminine uke, but even then, these character have nuances that separate them from other characters like them. Nuances that make them actual characters rather than props.

I think Ikuhara was right about romance. When it comes to straight romance, it's almost always forced -- that the boy and girl are only together because they're a boy and a girl, whereas with gay romance, the two have to actually have chemistry to make their love feel real.

can someone explain the relationship between these 2 characters?

Women are more evolved than men. That's why they can enjoy yuri and not be lesbians.

Adolescense
Also the original novel author sounds like a bit of a closet dyke

I hate fujoshit, fujos and """shipper culture""" if that's what you mean. I also don't care for BL, though there are few examples.
Male/male friendships are okay though kinda super played out.

Sounds like total bullshit to me, you probably haven't even consumed that much het if you are using...idk harem anime as your only example? And harem is no more cliche than BL.

BL is shit at romances, you are thinking of homoerotic stuff in normal anime and manga which yeah, come of as better romance because what said.

Like Mika/Yuu felt more meaningful and better developed than Shino/Yuu because their history and struggles.

I'd say that BL truly is more free of romance tropes, but generalizing all females as empty character types is taking it too far. Also Sup Forums loves Rem because most anons here are guys, and Re:Zero is an anime shown from the POV of a guy. From that perspective Rem indeed seems like a pretty awesome character. If you're not a guy and don't get what's so great about her in their opinion, idgaf about Re:Zero personally then that's okay, but don't be surprised when they don't get that excited about your favorite BL. To each their own.

t. shoujoshit retard

I'll go a step further and say anyone who prefers fujoshit over actual romance is emotionally/sexually stunted. Like you can't handle seeing on-page romance/sex so you need to project onto random platonic relationships or asexual teenaged boys.

Its kinda gross and depressing. I had a fujo phase in my teens and grew out of it as soon as I actually started dating and having sex myself.

>Average anime and manga
>Sex

This guy gets it.

Most BL is horrible forced shit between two walking cliches. Nips are bad at romance in general.

>Battler and Beato
>Romance
>Straight.

That's right.

Shoujo/Josei/Otome >>> BL/Haremshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fujoshit. (GL not even worth mentioning its beyond garbage).

This is how I know you have zero experience with romance.

I only watch fujoshit because actual gay romances with sex like Saezuru can't get an adaptation.
I am definitely emotionally/sexually stunted though. I'm aware of it. But I'm pretty sure so are most anons here. We get invested in anime and manga for a reason. They probably help filling a bit of that emptiness we have inside.

You sound a fujoshit in denial.

>Romance
Spoken like a true intellectual rapist.

>Straight.
Not getting into that transphobic mess, but Beatrice is certainly female.

I'm a different user from him, but for me there's a fundamental frame of reference that I lack when viewing straight romance. Sure, I can appreciate that it's well-written or whatever, but deep, deep down, there's something about that straight interaction that is impossible for me to fully understand because I can't experience it myself. I can't self-insert as a woman in a straight romance because I'm not one.

at lesst you admit to being retarded

Anyone who reads self-insert romance probably isn't getting enough male attention either. I've tried reading shoujo romance but it rarely diverges from the usual Twilight-tier fantasies, and I don't think anyone who reads that crap is okay in the head.

>Spoken like a true intellectual rapist.
There is no romance in Umineko, there is a single obsession from a eunuch to anther boy she talked when she was 10 a couple of times.

Unless you meant Lambda/Bern.

>Not getting into that transphobic mess, but Beatrice is certainly female.
>Hates fujoshit
>Claim Beato is a girl
Uh-uh. Keep staying in denial, I guess. You obsession with BL threads is pretty telling.

Oh it's the better-than-thou shoujofag again. Are you here to gloat about your superior mental state and experiences with irl love?

>I can't self-insert as a woman in a straight romance because I'm not one
How narrow minded. You're a human being. You should be able to empathize with any character, or even an object ( youtube.com/watch?v=TsQXQGaasUg ) that experience suffering, perceived or real.
But I suppose at least the existence of people like you means Hollywood and anime execs aren't completely wrong when they think a boring straight average male lead is the best recipe for a commercial success.

I don't get the point of self-insert. I'm an homo. Among my favorite love stories are straight ones, lesbians one an intersex one.

I don't need to be any of these things, do people lack of empathy or what?

Idk, at worst het romance readers tend to be the "lonely housewife" kind of readers. Probably less messed up than someone looking at porno even. Most fiction has some element of fantasy or wish fulfillment or whatever you mean when you say "Twilight tier".

Fujoshit is literally just like....a bunch of (pre-)pubescent boys hanging out with each other and then sweaty women projecting onto them and writing schlick fanfiction. Lets not pretend fujoshit is well written either. Its just shounenshit with an even higher concentration of males.

boy on boy love is the purest form of love.

don't make me take out the pence memes

But I just like watching cute boys doing cute things. Why is it okay for otaku to like cute girls doing cute things, but when it's boys it's suddenly bad and degenerate? Many SoL series with lots of boys just happen to be fujobait too, like Tanaka-kun and Tsuritama. If their fans are gracious enough to draw fanart and doujins of characters I like, then I'll read them no matter what they're doing in them.

......................not getting into this transphobic mess. Don't want to. This is a safe space.

Not my fault fujos are the cancer of Sup Forums and """"anime fandom""" as a whole.

>Not my fault fujos are the cancer of Sup Forums and """"anime fandom""" as a whole.
You sounds like a butthurt ex fujo, to be honest.

They are cartoons, why do you people take them seriously? If it's just delusional fujoshit who gives a fuck, they are meant to be just a passtime, not the fucking pinnacle of storytelling in mankind's history. Let the poor kids fap to whatever they like.

I'm really trying to be open minded but I hate faggots and everything they stand for. Just the thought of two males kissing is enough to make me sick. I have no problems with Yuri but Yaoi just makes me wanna puke no matter how much I try to like it.

I'd like BL more if the art (character designs mostly) for them wasn't absolute dogshit a lot of the time. How come the boys in shows where they're supposed to be a major draw (BL, male idol shows and shoujo romance) are inferior to your average harem protagonist?

Do it fag, I dare you.

Why are you still watching anime fujo