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>OY user, FOODS GOOD INIT

>new york times
>((schmidt))
>((haberman))

Oh hey look, it's another source that does nothing but spew anti-trump shit every single day spewing more anti-trump shit that probably isn't even true. Gee wiz

>ACCORDING TO PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER

>"a sowce close to matters"
>signed, Maggs

you people are sick

Are they brits? I will assume they are brits.

Sage

Sage goes in all fields friend

Didn't we already know this? I mean Rosenstein testified under oath many times that he would quit before firing Mueller and that he wasn't asked to fire him:
youtube.com/watch?v=dz8gPFVxrOk

>not obstructing justice is an impeachable offense

Rosenstein wasn't asked because the order never reached him.

While I don't think he'll be convicted without finding an underlying crime, I highly doubt Mueller won't recommend charges after this revelation. The interview with Trump is likely just to get an idea of what his team's legal defense will be when they bring charges so he can better prepare for an extremely long and trying battle.

In Russia they kill journalists but that doesn't seem bad at all compared to how in the USA they make up fake dossiers and then use them to illegally wiretap presidential candidates

sage

>order never reached him.
Then how do you even start making a case for ***potential*** obstruction? From the NYT article, it's not even clear if he said it directly to someone or that he mentioned it in passing or that he ordered it to the only other guy which could do something, Sessions, but he already recused himself. So it is up to Rosenstein, that's why he was brought to Congress. Nixon had to fire everyone under the AG to the point where some underling would dismiss the special counsel and fire Cox.

Let's archive this.

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>anonymous sources

>trump cant fire muller
>implying he shouldn’t fire the joke of an investigation

Tumo has the AUTHORITY to fire muller

NIXON was not threaded with impeachment for firing the special counsel as lefties will claim

Nixon was fired for tampering with evidence

Fucking fire all them demons

OH NOES THE MEDIA LIED AGAIN, DRUMPF IS GOING TO BE IMPEACHED

I don't understand this. Even if he did fire Mueller, he wouldn't have done anything illegal. Sure, it wouldn't have looked very good, politically speaking, but that's about it. OP is an enormous fucking faggot.

10/10 classy ladies

I cant wait until you wannabe tinpot dictators are on the other side of the wall. You have absolutely no sense of what justice and due process are in this nation.

A-American archive bot?!?

Tasty.

There was no Russian investigation when this happened, Mueller was still in the FBI.

Fish gotta swim
Birds gotta eat
Shills gotta shill

The NYT has given up on journalism and switched to fiction.

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>cheesy chips and 7up
fraid so

Yeah this whole thing is just to deflect from the FISA shit. Another nothingburger to hand on the wall with the 10,000 other manufactured nothingburgers.

when was the last time there was a journalist that wasn't a compromised festering piece of shit

remember uranium one? seems a while ago that manufactured nothingburger was a big deal to investigate. now it's a memo written by a guy who won't even show it to people with the right classification.

want to lick dem cracks

>i'll just put my bare feet down on the pavement littered with glass shards, fags ends and who the fuck knows what else

Nice digits
Whats with 7up? Is that like the drink of choice in the uk? You guys have fucking amazing shit like irn bru and ribena though

mfw Trump trying to fire someone and then not even going through with it is all the MSM has left.

they hardly got that either. Their sources are 4 anonymous people who learnt of the exchange, they didnt actually witness it themselves if they even exists.

I hear Sean Hannity and Alex Jones are good

I don't get it, you guys won't accept sources like that but will jump onto any conspiracy story with even less credibility and say "ITZ HABENING ITZ HABBBENING ALL DOZE NORMIES ARE GONNA DIE".

Pathetic.

it's just a shitposting game to make yourself feel good that you're fighting against an enemy

i do really wonder about his bohemian grove visit

It's called Obstruction of Justice you fucking retard. Despite your homosexual longing for a third-world shithole-tier dictator to take charge and genocide libruls, we're still a country of laws.

You're an idiot. If he's under oath he can no longer claim he didn't try to fire Mueller.

"Did you try to get Mueller fired?"
Yes: confirm obstruction to end investigation
No: Perjury

Mueller should be fired.

This is the only instance in the history of the universe where a special prosecutor has been appointed without an actual crime to investigate.

There is no statute about "colluding with Russia."

Moreover, there cannot be obstruction of justice without first a crime being committed.

There is no statute about "colluding with Russia."

It also appears that the whole "collusion with Russia" allegations were made under knowingly false pretenses, by all the people involved in the appointment of the special prosecutor.

So to sum up; Trump is rightfully upset that this farce has gone on as long as it has, but he was talked down from doing something rash, and reminded they were playing the long game.

The FISA abuse, deep state coup attempt will all come out eventually. And when it's clear to every normie what was done, Trump will have the perfect cover to fire Mueller, and appoint his own special prosecutor to go after Comey, McCabe, Stzrok, Page, Rosenstein, Ohr, Fusion GPS, Abedin, Rice, Power, Clapper, Brennan, Lynch, Clinton and Obama.

I just leave this here:

youtube.com/watch?v=dz8gPFVxrOk

What do you think this shows?

succint explanation

Another day, another skeleton comes crashing out of the closet

>Yes: confirm obstruction to end investigation
>No: Perjury

For obstruction of justice to stick,obstruction of justice needs to be thing lol
Which it wasnt because Mueller obviously wasn't fired do you understand?
lol

lol
hearsay of trump about to, but not doing something

vs.

memos and text messages


kys and come back with a brain faggot

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That no illegale action was taken because rosenstein said under oath he woudlnt do them even if asked. And since asking isnt a crime and mueller wasnt fired what does this tell you?

some of you guys are real retards.

Just like it is legal for you to destroy your computers hard drive before you throw a computer out. It is not legal for you to destroy a computer's hard drive if you are doing so because you are trying to destroy evidence or obstruct an investigation. Likewise, Trump is allowed to fire a subordinate. That is legal. He is not allowed to fire a subordinate in order to shut down (or obstruct) an investigation. Moreover, he doesn't have to succeed for it to be obstruction of justice, you morons. You can delete files in order to commit obstruction and the FBI can forensically recover them anyway. Just because you failed didn't mean you didn't try to commit the crime. Obstruction of justice is usually a crime of failing.

by the way my argument about trump is concerning Comey. The NYT article isn't enough info to get a clear idea what happened here.

Unless Trump had cause to fire Mueller, which clearly he did, because of Strzok and Page...

>Every single time he travels

This shit is set up so the international press can grill him with questions. Best part was today when he said "fake news folks, The NYT is fake news." KEK

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Hannity:
>The NYT is trying to distract you, Trump never tried to fire Mueller
>Okay our sources confirm it but so what?
>HEY LOOK A CAR CRASH!

Strzok and Page were removed by Mueller, he actually got rid of the moron after learning of his texts. Jesus Christ, you're retarded. That's an argument AGAINST impugning him.

There might be cause to fire Mueller anyways, but that is certainly not fucking it.

You don't know when the FISA surveillance on Muellers team started... For all we know Mueller has been under surveillance since before he was appointed.

You don't seem to understand that there is an active investigation by the IG into Muellers conduct...

You just mean surveillance. Stop saying FISA like a retard. Besides, if FISA is some crazy fucking deep state tool (and it is: you fucking yanks are spying on all of us in the rest of the world all the time), then why did Trump sign off on section 702 again? Why did Devin Nunes and these other retards who chirp about deep state, sign off on it again? If FISA courts are so big bad and evil that they are being used to subvert Trump, why was section 702 reauthorized?

that's fine. IG can investigate. Maybe there is cause to fire him, who the fuck knows? Maybe.

But Strzok is not the example, you moron. Strzok is an example of Mueller doing the right thing.

Dude, it was the IG that alerted Mueller that he had two traitors on his team. You really don't think Mueller is not also under investigation? Also, FISA surveillance matters because it goes into the PDB.

Nice try. For there to be obstruction, there must be a crime.

But Mueller was appointed, uniquely in the history of special prosecutors, *without a crime to investigate*. On top of that, the circumstances of his appointment were shady: Sessions foolishly recuses himself, then Comey leaks, then Rosenstein appoints Mueller.

And still, no crime. Just "investigations".

To top it all off, *Mueller was not actually fired*. I.e. the action was not completed in whole or in part, unlike your example about deleting files from a hard drive. AND this was a conversation between the President of the US and one of his lawyers. Do you honestly fucking think the Supreme Court is going to say, "Oh yes strong words being exchanged in private that resulted in no action being taken is proof of obstruction of justice concerning an investigation without a crime"? The damage to the executive (power, privilege) would be incalculable. The only thing needed to ring up the PRESIDENT would be some yelling and then leaks to the NYT.

The only crime here is the leak itself and the your petty desperation to manufacture something out of nothing.

leftist argument seems to be that it is now obstruction of justice to ask your lawyer if a particular course of action is illegal....

sigh, you fucking moron. Obviously it was the IG who alerted Mueller. Do you think Mueller sits around stealing phones from people under him and going through texts? Obviously he learned of it because an internal review found it. Then he took it and rightly got rid of Strzok on the team. And of fucking course the OIG will look at Mueller's conduct, that's the whole fucking point of an OIG! They audit and look into the activity of units and employees within the bureau (or DOJ), and of course major investigations like this will have an IG looking at them.

Do they teach Americans anything in school about how the fuck their own government works? You retards couldn't tell an IG investigation from a criminal investigation.

Or he can just abstain and plea dthe fifth. Holy shit that's what lawyers are for

>And still, no crime. Just "investigations".
Mate, the obstruction I was talking about was whether Comeys firing could be. Maybe it's not, I'm not an american prosecutor. Comey was investigation Flynn and probably Manafort. There was/is crimes there. They are real. My post was not about whether the current story is obstruction because there's not enough info to make a good argument for or against.

>Trump cites multiple legitimate conflicts of interests that Mueller has
>anonymous sources
>didn’t get fired
Literally Hitler imbeach!!

NO he learned of it because there is a criminal investigation into members of his team!

>according to sources told of the matter

When did you stop beating your boyfriend soyboy?

Strzok is an example of Mueller doing the right thing.... at the last possible moment shortly before being caught. America so bereft of qualified investigators that Mueller could only hire the people who covered up Hillary Clinton’s crimes and/or donated money to her campaign.

>legitimate conflicts of interest
Anyone who looks into my shady dealings has a conflict of interest!

You realize both Strzok and Page are going to prison right?

>Sources say

Also!!!! The NSA warned Mueller of the traitors on his team, because of their txt messages, then after that the txt messages disappear!!!! Absolutely, the term Obstruction of Justice belongs in this conversation, but not the way the retards are applying it.

well yes actually, legally and ethically that’s whats called for.

Unbelievably wrong. I refuse to believe that people can be this retarded.

no you moron, there is no criminal investigation into his team. There is an IG investigation, which is not criminal, into how the Clinton criminal investigation was conducted (as all major investigations should get an IG examination). In this IG investigation, which is not criminal, they found the texts, the nature and content of which were given to Mueller, because Strzok was involved in the Trump investigation. Mueller rightly removed him.

No criminal investigation, you fucking special retard. If the IG investigation uncovers potential criminal activity, it is forwarded from the OIG to a criminal investigation team within DOJ for them to do a criminal investigation. Go learn about your own country, you're an embarrassment.

Mueller warning Strzok and Page that they were target of instigation is an example of Mueller committing Obstruction of Justivce BTW.

YES THERE IS

I mean, that's fine. They're texting was embarrassing. I don't know how major fucking FBI investigators think its ok to do what he did.

>America so bereft of qualified investigators that Mueller could only hire the people who covered up Hillary Clinton’s crimes
This is a great fucking questions. Why are there only like 20 investigators in the US? Utterly bizarre and a bit dangerous.

Posting in a shill thread.

Go find it. Go find the criminal investigation you retard and post the link.

IG investigation* Not criminal. You moron. They might be criminals, but that is not from the IG investigation.

>Trump didn’t intend to say he wanted to fire Mueller though!
>he just misremembered, no big deal
Unironically kys

Yes but Comey said under oath that he didn't feel pressured to end the investigation and that he was just "disturbed and worried" by Trump's loyalty and Flynn comments. That doesn't hold water especially when he didn't inform anyone else during that time and especially given the recent text messages and general handling if the Clinton investigation under him. He also said it himself that he can be fired for anything but also mentioned Trump saying that it was because of "the Russia investigation".
The investigation continued normally but without Comey at the head if the FBI and with a special counsel on top of that. It's up to Mueller to make a case for obstruction involving Flynn but there HAS to be an effort to obstruct and that implicates destroying evidence and coordinating officials, thought crime is not a crime, Mueller is trying to bait Trump into admiting to obstruction under oath or lying under oath..

No. It wasn;t Mueller compromised the IG criminal probe when he warned Strzok and Page that they were being investigated.

The IG criminal probe is from their deliberate mishandling of the Hillary investigation BTW

I wasn't talking about Mueller, genius.

No one has enough info on this new NYT story, so it's totally not clear what happened or whether this is a complete nothingburger.

The are probably also the basis of the Manafor lawsuit against Mueller, who is also alleging criminal conduct on the part of Mueller

test

Here read this post:
To learn more about how your country works, since you are too stupid to understand the term investigation.

The Dutch know more about America than Americans!!
>t. The Hague globalist

You do know that it’s not obstruction of justice to fire Muller, right? Just like how it wasn’t when he fired Comey?

fake news posters should be banned from pol

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BUMP 4 JUSTICE

>Comey
Yeah that doesn’t matter either. Every single Executive Admin (political appointee) servers at the pleasure of POTUS

>Man who has legal authority to fire someone might possibly be considering thinking about maybe getting interested in firing someone, says someone who heard it from a guy who knows one of the guys who works down the hall from a guy who might have heard Trump say so

>IMBEACH

By liberal logic, Mueller cannot ever be fired so long as he drags on his 'investigation.' This is why there should be (and largely hasn't been) no place in our legal system for investigating 'matters.' The American legal system has been designed from the ground up to investigate specific crimes; accusations of specific acts.

The Mueller probe has no specific crime its searching for. It's investigating a broad swath of 'matters' with no direct link to one another in the desperate hope of turning up something, anything, to justify its own existence.

The Mueller investigation is a case without a crime, and he can, according to the left, stave off his own retirement indefinitely so long as he says 'we're still looking.' He has inoculated himself against consequences of his failures by appealing to partisan skullduggery.