I'm terribly tired of the same faces, same artstyles, same drawings too simple, same student-ecchi cliches suited for teenagers' faps...
If you feel the same, post whatever you want about what you don't like in anime nowadays or anime series you recommend that don't follow mainstream anime cliches.
Feel free to share hate, user
I'm alright as long as the story is entertaining and the characters are properly written, some slight ecchi is just icing on the cake
Too bad the last season was full of isekai and this season has a lot of highschool romcoms. I wish they'd just diversify the menu
Anime always have being trash, I don't know what are you talking about.
Diversify the genres, that's it.
I want find more seinen series as Monster, Ergo Proxy or Mushishi
There are things I like about both old and newer. I like the old cel-animated stuff with a lot of shading and detail but on the other hand modern stuff has a lot more variety in artstyles that old anime never had.
It actually existed adult themes in anime series time ago, user
Variety, yeah
FMAP, Lucky Star, Nichijou and the post K-on shows look quite different.
But that still doesn't change the fact that there just wasn't that much unique stylization in older anime. You had only small experimental stuff and among films or series there was basically Belladonna and that's it.
>I wish they'd just diversify the menu
Not gonna happen. The two main demographics that anime panders to are children and otaku, neither of them want anything new, experimental or ground breaking.
How retarded do you have to be to claim that this
looks the same as this?
Jesus christ people, I like old anime. But if you think there isn't diversity it's your fault. You've just convinced yourself there's a lack of it instead of actually looking at what's available.
I mean just look at last season:
ACCA, Dragon Dentist, LWA, Rakugo, Kobayashi-san
All of these were different genre and all had different directing styles.
what series is this? it kind of looks like lodoss but i dont recognize the characters
Hey, I'm not agreeing with the notion that there is no diversity at all. There is. It's just very sparse because what my earlier post said applies to mainstream anime, which makes up the bulk of shows.
I was going to blame you but you actually know Belladonna of Sadness...Now I can't stop my feelings for you, sensei
Anyway, I find more diversity in old anime for sure
Mob Psycho 100, Rakugo, Flip Flappers, Luluco
Name me four more diverse and artistically or narratively ambitous tv series from the 80s, from one year.
Lucky Star started the cancerous trendy, now every Kyoani looks like this
>same faces, same artstyles, same drawings too simple
Well there was a time where there was nothing but Rumiko series nonstop. And great anime, ie whatever is on a recommendation chart, was so few and far between within an entire decade.
I'm probably more irked by the fact anime is blatantly mainstream, where everyone is a fan but isnt a fan at the same time.
Also here's my set up for full autism
/blogspot
The Weathering Continent
Yeah, both animes have the same art designer (goodness, I love Nobuteru Yuki art)
More than Redline, Mononoke, Kaiba, Casshern Sins, Tatami Galaxy, Kyousougiga, Penguindrum, Panty and Stocking, Katanagatari, Cat Soup, Dead Leaves, Gankutsuou, JoJo, Tekkon Kinkreet, Mob Psycho or Woman Called Fujiko Mine?
I mean Tezuka had the same style for each one of the manga or anime shows he worked on. While directors like Kenji Nakamura or Masaaki Yuasa have a completely new, unique visual style they bring to each anime they make. On all the charts that are supposed to prove people that "not all anime looks the same" half of it could be theirs.
If you can match the same amount of divesity with shows that stood out this much with their styles from before the 00s then ok. But I highly doubt it. In independent shorts sure, but not in actual films or tv and OVAs.
Rumiko series are all great, stupid user
You didn't answer my question at all. You just spouted your meme without even thinking about what I wrote, which is a common thing for people who claim "it used to be better maaan" on most subjects.
go back to Sup Forums
>blahblahblah old anime
>recommend me series
Nice rec thread.
>same faces, same artstyles, same drawings too simple
>same faces, same artstyles, same drawings too simple
No doubt theyre great series, but there was a time there was nothing but that or Dragon Ball and Gundam, and then you hoped for an OVA gem. Currently I come to appreciate through this clockwork seasonal cycle is that there's a few things worth watching every quarter.
>It's just very sparse
No it's not, I mentioned five shows from literally the same seasons, not accounting for any of the films at all. Those were the most popular anime, that will probably stick with people, and those are the ones that matter.
tru.
True, I mean my favorite works are probably from the 90s and I have a few favorites from both the 80s and 00s. But let's be honest, you never had a time in the 90s where there were about 4-5 good shows each season for a whole year
>ellipses
>reddit spacing
If you lurked more you would know we literally have threads dedicated to this practically every week. Creating "subtle" recommendation blog threads doesn't help Sup Forums and you should head to instead.
>158079808
Off course Tezuka had the same style even though it evolved a bit (rest in peace, master). Once you start creating your own stuff, you as an artist find your personal way of express it (it affects artstyle, obviously).
At least Tezuka's works are master pieces and are oriented for all kind of audience
...
Fine, I'll concede. Nostalgia goggles are a powerful thing but rationally speaking, you are right.
Looking at these threads is almost so embarassing.
This is all just good-natured trolling and people don't actually believe this, right?
You're describing well what actually have you done
I fap looking at weeaboo cringe, so yes
All my waifus are on that image, lol
So? What does that have to do with anything I wrote? You said old anime had more variety, I show you counter-examples. You tell me "yeah, but all of Tezuka's works were great".
Just admit you were wrong, or provide some actual argument for your claims, user. It's not nice to trick people into discussions like this without putting any effort into it yourself
I provided multiple examples of new anime, anime from the same year and anime from the same season:
In response I got nothing relating to what I wrote and "arguments" on the level of "Nah, but I like mine better".
>with a lot of shading
Shading is not specific to cel animation. There are cel animated shows that use a flat style and digitally animated shows that use multi-tone shading. It's an artistic choice, not a matter of technology.
And today they have gradients and filter layers for lighting at their disposal, which are used to achieve some of the impressions that were conveyed by shading in the past.
Is this yuri?
There is a guy hiding in the shadows
True, I just meant it was a common practice then, probably because of the formats. Though I also in general like the texture of cel-animated shows. The better ones will look like they have more visual depth. On the other hand to me the best looking shows are the ones that instead of trying to be realistic, try to be more abstract and striking, stuff like Casshern Sins, Kaiba, Tatami Galaxy, and all the stuff I mentioned here:
Anime nowadays is not oriented for all kind of audience. That's why you looks like an autistic retard when you spoke to someone of anime. That's the fact, sorry.
It's true I don't like recent anime artstyle because it looks always the same for me, maybe it's different for you, I don't care, it happens a lot.
The point is that there're old anime out there that touch very well adult themes, and I can't say the same of anime series now (The only """adult""" themes I've seen are those which show how lame otakus are in reality: Welcome to NHK as reference. And I'm a bit tired of the topic to be honest)
that's just a butch lesbian
>I only watch mature anime for mature viewers such as myself
It's a porno, right?
Link, please
You can blame Evangelion for all of that.
Really. As many people have said here, back in time there were very few new releases. Now every month there're 20 new series at least, you can't compare number but excellence and quality
This.
it's a japanese reality tv show
>The point is that there're old anime out there that touch very well adult themes
Because you can cherry-pick a handful of examples from like 4 decades of anime. Dumb shit for children has always represented 99% of anime.
Your perspective is warped. When it comes to 70s/80s anime you're only exposed to the enduring masterpieces, and when it comes to modern anime you're exposed to every single show.
Damn...at least they get scared of niggas
fine waifu material, desu
What show anyway?
>its a reddit thinks 90s was a good time for anime episode
I just suck it up, turn my brain off and try to enjoy Eromanga idiocy.
I'm sick of 99% of anime either being fujoshit, moeshit, or haremshit. I'm sick of every anime being poorly drawn digital horseshit. I'm sick of plot, storyline, world building, character development, and so on being outright ignored.
Enough is enough. I WILL save anime either by ballet or by bullet.
>It's true I don't like recent anime artstyle because it looks always the same for me, maybe it's different for you, I don't care, it happens a lot.
You talked about diversity specifically. Just google Casshern Sins, Kaiba and Tatami Galaxy and then tell me you don't see diversity in there.
>The point is that there're old anime out there that touch very well adult themes, and I can't say the same of anime series now (The only """adult""" themes I've seen are those which show how lame otakus are in reality: Welcome to NHK as reference. And I'm a bit tired of the topic to be honest)
Yeah, and there are a lot more of those among new anime? Name at least ten mature-oriented shows in the line of NHK from before 2000.
There's also more diversity in terms of audience. There were several josei anime in the last decade and practically none before 2000.
No, don't change the subject. You mentioned divesity specifically. Turns out you were wrong and just lack knowledge of both old and new anime, happens. You can just admit it and we can go on with your lives.
That's true, so illuminate me: tell me nowadays anime series that are not moeblob, have not female sexualization, got good plot, adult themes and unique artstyle, pls
>this obvious crossboarder blog thread
>all these people responding to it unironically
We need your money, user
Well I don't really have a favourite era of anime really, but I've been rewatching Kaiji recently. The different artstyle is just icing on the cake. As far as I can tell, there's not too many psychological gambling anime, which is a shame because anime suits the genre well. Or at least Fukumoto's take on it.
Damn, Yohko was such a dumb anime. Let's be honest, scriptwriting progressed a lot since then,
>59/20 posters
>5AM
mhmmhmhmhmh
>scriptwriting progressed a lot since then
Uhhhh haven't you read the thread? Anime is worse now than ever before. We must go back to the old style or else anime will die within our lifetimes.
Plus every show of our childhood such as Candy Candy, Rose of Versailles, Aria, Escaflowne...etc
And every show of Tezuka
This answered the thing of diversity too
>Too bad the last season was full of isekai
How is it normalfags get away with posting flat out incorrect information without getting called out on it all the time? Where is this misconception coming from? Did some ANN article or popular Youtuber claim all anime is isekai now? If you actually watched anime you would realize isekai makes up a very small amount of anime. You can prove me wrong by naming three (3) isekai anime from last season.
Also if you seriously cherrypick the best anime from between the 60s and 90s in order to prove anime in general was better back in the day you are little more than a retarded subhuman
No, there are very clearly two eras of anime. Old anime where characters had noses and new anime wgere characters evolved beyond needing them.
>same faces, same artstyles
Oldfag here. Artstyle actually varies a lot if you pay attention, fag.
And I love noses, that's my problem
It's all about moeshit and traps, you weirdo
There is no variety between those compared to something like Kaiba, Tatami Galaxy and Ping Pong. Which all aired in the span of 10 years. None of the shows you mentioned had as stylized character designs or color work. You won't find one show similar to Tatami Galaxy. On the other hand Miyazaki works like Lupin or Mononoke look similar. Slayers and Excel Saga have the same 90s stylized aesthetic. The res ranges from that to a more realistic art style. Tezuka had the same style all the time as did most shows of the 80s. Rose of Versailles had a similar style to other Dezaki anime and Utena.
You've got nothing like Tatami, Katanagatari, Mononoke or Redline on the other hand.
Old anime was always just forced exposition, even the more ambitious ones like NGE, Angel's Egg, Belladonna or Utena. The creators would do the complete opposite "show, don't tell". On the other hand take something like Flip Flappers from last year, where everything was presented through visuals alone.
recently I looked at every single anime by season from 1960-2017 to create a log of literally everything I was interested in watching and I think it's a joke when people say it used to be better.
some interesting and somewhat relevant shifts I noticed in doing this:
-before 1985 anime was almost entirely child-oriented
-from 85-97 anime was almost entirely VHS/OVA oriented(my guess is the guaranteed market of rental stores opened this up)
-when Evangelion came out everything really did change(television series started coming out more than OVAs, more adult oriented television series started popping up when before only OVAs tended to be adult oriented)
and shit, we've had at least one violent seinen manime per season for the last year. I feel like these crossboarding faggots just don't watch more than a series or two.
not him but I would compare zetsubou sensei to tatami galaxy in many ways(art style, dialogue presentation, character design)
I don't know the context of your discussion, just throwing that out there.
But that's not anime.
Yeah, off course, they're not different between them because you've lost your glasses, stupid user
Tatami Galaxy is as different as could be Rose of Versailles or Utena, but you only compare what you want, uh?
Go and play for a bit with your generic moeblob waifu, pls
Here's three random screenshots from recent anime. OP is right, all modern anime look exactly the same with no exception.
The color palette is different as is the lining. The only thing that makes the "similar" is that they're both unique.
Kado is a breath of fresh air. Watch it.
It is.
Japanese animation as well as design
Is The Last Unicorn honorary anime?
Old anime is factually, subjectively, and objectively superior to new anime in every way.
I didn't even mention one moe show in this thread. You're deluding yourself. Rose of Versailles and Utena still have natural, realistic, just somewhat stylized coloring. Tatami Galaxy is completely out there in those terms, as is Kaiba.
I mean I don't mind I get to see the great anime of the 70s and 80s and the even better of anime of the 90s, 00s and 10s. You're trapped in an old era and you'll never get to watch something great, because you're trapped in the cage of your own ignorance. It's your loss, not mine.
This is from a recent one too
And it reflects the people in this thread too
That would make Batman TAS and one of the seasons of Korra anime as well.
Yes, It's
Novel is great as well
Thanks for the rec. I was only watching Bahamut.
The Last Unicorn is a co-production american-japanese, but its animation and design are completely japanese
bahamut is shounenshit garbage.
imagine if LotR began and five minutes later they are in mordor and that's basically bahamut.
Stop posting this shit. You weren't around back then so you don't remember, good anime was just as rare back then as it is now. Try looking at the dates inbetween your favorite anime dipshit
It has amazing production values, and shonenshit is a bad meme.
>I was only watching [1 anime]
This sums up the type of dumb faggot who makes these threads perfectly.
Tatamy Galaxy is as unique as could be Belladonna of Sadness, and the last one at least is way far mature.
Your problem is that the few series you named, was more frecuent in anime back them.
so does one piece. if you think anime is bad and the only thing you're watching this season is bahamut, well, duh. fuckin crossboarding kiddies
Pretty much this, tv was by far worse before Evangelion. Even though some shows were more ambitious thematically like Ideon, Gundam or Galaxy 999, they were still limited by the format and demographic. The one who could break through the ice the most was Dezaki, but even with him you could see that. The 80s excelled when it came to films and OVAs though.
I didn't make this thread. You can stop projecting now.
>the color and lines are different
negligible compared to the massive similarities I mentioned. just look up screenshots the two series are ridiculously comparable. calm down, that's fine.
When the fuck did I say that I think anime is bad? All I said was that the only anime I'm watching this season is Bahamut.
Sup Forums is full of these kind of people
Yeah, that's why I mentioned Belladonna of Sadness as the only anime that really stands out. But I was also able to mention many more, despite going with a more limited time frame. Since we're comparing 1960-2000 to to 2000-2017. So even if some of those years had more tv shows, they still had less OVAs and films than in the 80s. Also I mentioned about 20 shows, while you were able to mention just one film, which I mentioned earlier anyway.
Will Tatami still be unique now that Yoru wa mijikashi is out? I've heard the two are quite similar. Not that I mind anyway.
if you are only watching one series a season you definitely hate anime.