I being gay natural?

I being gay natural?

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Genome-Wide Association Study of Male Sexual Orientation:

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Gays have differently size brain regions:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1887219/

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H-Y Antigen and Homosexuality in Men

Blanchard, Klassen

1997

In men, sexual orientation correlates with the number of older brothers, each additional older brother increasing the odds of homosexuality by approximately 33%. It is hypothesized that this fraternal birth order effect reflects the progressive immunization of some mothers to Y-linked minor histocompatibility antigens (H-Y antigen) by each succeeding male fetus, and the concomitantly increasing effects of H-Y antibodies on the sexual differentiation of the brain in each succeeding male fetus. This hypothesis is consistent with a variety of evidence, including the apparent irrelevance of older sisters to the sexual orientation of later-born males, the probable involvement of H-Y antigen in the development of sex-typical traits, and the detrimental effects of immunization of female mice to H-Y antigen on the reproductive performance of subsequent male offspring.

2010

bmcgenet.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2156-11-62

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Female relatives of male homosexuals have 1.3x as many kids:

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051088

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Bisexual females have more teen pregnancies:

journalistsresource.org/studies/society/public-health/teen-pregnancy-bisexual-lesbian-heterosexual-women

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Straight males carry gay genes:

chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

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Significant physiological roles of ancillary penile nerves on increase in intracavernous pressure in rats: experiments using electrical stimulation of the medial preoptic area:

nature.com/articles/3900650

Hamer 1993:

jstor.org/stable/pdf/2881563.pdf

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Hamer 1995:

nature.com/ng/journal/v11/n3/abs/ng1195-248.html?foxtrotcallback=true

doi: 10.1038/ng1195-248

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Hamer 2006:

Human sexual preference is a sexually dimorphic trait with a substantial genetic component. Linkage of male sexual orientation to markers on the X chromosome has been reported in some families. Here, we measured X chromosome inactivation ratios in 97 mothers of homosexual men and 103 age-matched control women without gay sons. The number of women with extreme skewing of X-inactivation was significantly higher in mothers of gay men (13/97=13%) compared to controls (4/103=4%) and increased in mothers with two or more gay sons (10/44=23%). Our findings support a role for the X chromosome in regulating sexual orientation in a subgroup of gay men.

Extreme skewing of X chromosome inactivation in mothers of homosexual men

C. E. Roselli and F. Stormshak

2009

The domestic ram is used as an experimental model to study early programming of the neural mechanisms which underlie homosexuality, developing from the observation that approximately 8% of domestic rams are sexually attracted to other rams (male-oriented) when compared to the majority of rams which are female-oriented. In many species, a prominent feature of sexual differentiation is the presence of a sexually dimorphic nucleus (SDN) in the preoptic hypothalamus, which is larger in males than in females.
Roselli et al. discovered an ovine SDN (oSDN) in the preoptic hypothalamus that is smaller in male-oriented rams than in female-oriented rams, but similar in size to the oSDN of females. Neurons of the oSDN show aromatase expression which is also smaller in male-oriented rams versus female-oriented rams, suggesting that sexual orientation is neurologically hard-wired and may be influenced by hormones. However, results failed to associate the role of neural aromatase in the sexual differentiation of brain and behavior in the sheep, due to the lack of defeminization of adult sexual partner preference or oSDN volume as a result of aromatase activity in the brain of the fetuses during the critical period.

Having said this, it is more likely that oSDN morphology and homosexuality may be programmed through an androgen receptor that does not involve aromatisation. Most of the data suggests that homosexual rams, like female-oriented rams, are masculinized and defeminized with respect to mounting, receptivity, and gonadotrophin secretion, but are not defeminized for sexual partner preferences, also suggesting that such behaviors may be programmed differently. Although the exact function of the oSDN is not fully known, its volume, length, and cell number seem to correlate with sexual orientation, and a dimorphism in its volume and of cells could bias the processing cues involved in partner selection. More research is needed in order to understand the requirements and timing of the development of the oSDN and how prenatal programming effects the expression of mate choice in adulthood.

Prenatal Programming of Sexual Partner Preference: The Ram Model

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Sanders 2014:

cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/genomewide-scan-demonstrates-significant-linkage-for-male-sexual-orientation/864518601436C95563EA670C5F380343

doi: 10.1017/S0033291714002451

In the case of blood type and the Rh factor, however, interesting patterns emerged. Heterosexual males and females exhibited statistically identical frequencies of the A blood type, while gay men exhibited a relatively low inci- dence and lesbians had a relatively high incidence (p < .05). In the case of the Rh factor, unusually high proportions of homosexuals of both sexes were Rh- when compared to heterosexuals (p < .06). The findings suggest that a connec- tion may exist between sexual orientation and genes both on chromosome 9 (where blood type is determined) and on chromosome 1 (where the Rh factor is regulated).

Eye Color, Hair Color, Blood Type, and the Rhesus Factor: Exploring Possible Genetic Links to Sexual Orientation

Das S. 2007

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Identical twins are not 100% identical due to differences in womb environment:

Mechanisms for differences in monozygous twins Paul Gringras, Wai Chen, 2001

doi:10.1016/S0378-3782(01)00171-2

Another issue is the recent finding that even monozygotic twins can be different and there is a mechanism which might account for monozygotic twins being discordant for homosexuality. Gringas and Chen (2001) describe a number of mechanisms which can lead to differences between monozygotic twins, the most relevant here being chorionicity and amniocity.[13] Dichorionic twins potentially have different hormonal environments because they receive maternal blood from separate placenta, and this could result in different levels of brain masculinisation. Monoamniotic twins share a hormonal environment, but can suffer from the 'twin to twin transfusion syndrome' in which one twin is "relatively stuffed with blood and the other exsanguinated"

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Twin resemblance was moderate for the 3,826 studied monozygotic and dizygotic same-sex twin pairs. Biometric modeling revealed that, in men, genetic effects explained .34–.39 of the variance, the shared environment .00, and the individual-specific environment .61–.66 of the variance. Corresponding estimates among women were .18–.19 for genetic factors, .16–.17 for shared environmental, and 64–.66 for unique environmental factors

from:

Långström N, Rahman Q, Carlström E and Lichtenstein P (2010) Genetic and environmental effects on same‐sex sexual behavior: a population study of twins in Sweden. Archives of Sexual Behavior 39(1): 75–80.
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Bailey 1991:

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/495588

doi: 10.1001/archpsyc.1991.01810360053008

nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

archive.is/PSmzQ

christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htm

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html

archive.is/32sQz

Scientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers:

archive.is/g3lal

A novel predictive model of sexual orientation using epigenetic markers.

Authors: T. C. Ngun [1]; W. Guo [2]; N. M. Ghahramani [3]; K. Purkayastha [1]; D. Conn [4]; F. J. Sanchez [5]; S. Bocklandt [1]; M. Zhang [2,6]; C. M. Ramirez [4]; M. Pellegrini [7]; E. Vilain [1]

nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530

tim-taylor.com/papers/twin_studies/studies.html

scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/

archive.is/MALR3

hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1993-homosexual-orientation-in-twins.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

Androgen receptor gene linked to XQ28

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAGEA11

sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/study-gay-brothers-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexuality

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As natural as rape, incest, murder, cannibalism, and pedophilia; yes.

>is one dumb male animal fucking another make animal natural?

Yes, in the same sense that cannibalism, rape, and killing the children of a rival male is natural.

At the same time you never see lesbian animals, which kills the whole "gay is natural" line of thinking.

Is hearing voices in your head telling you to kill people natural?

Are you always ready for this thread to come up faggot?

Wait does this mean I made my little sister gay

Ha ha, look at the face of the lioness !!! she's pissed of to get no attention.

Literally everything that humans do is natural, you stupid fucks.

This is such a fucking ridiculous argument to have.

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Is killing your weak young natural? If so, then killing gays is natural.

Mexi-bro hivemind. Is your name Miguel by chance?

To the extent that errors are natural, yes. Its frequency among all species combined is a number lower than one percent.

No. Just fun.

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Blowjobs arent natural. Anal sex with a woman aint natural. Sex with a condom aint natural. Yet these things are done out of pleasure. So heteros should not claim that homo sex is wrong because its unnatural, because they are doing unnatural things too

Pic: Oops! Even the lions have proof of the revelation of the 'new' testament.

From the perspective of evolution, no, it's not natural.

Those fucking faggots should be burned alive.

Are dams natural? Beavers build them so you could say yes, but the bullshit definition of naturalism espoused by the left that places humans outside of the natural realm (exactly like evangelicals btw) would suggest that dams are not natural. Rather, a human constructed dam is unnatural but a beaver dam is natural even though humans and beavers are evolutionary cousins since they share a common ancestor.
So if gay sex is natural because animals do it and humans are part of the class of animals, then therefore anything humans do is inherently natural. This includes faggotry, genocide, and space exploration. Literally everything on earth is natural unless you wanna get into the religious business of dividing the kingdom of god into arbitrary categories which to me seems arrogant.

Most gays are /fit/ as fuck and would beat the shit out of you, fattie.

I you consider it form evolution's side :
>It's not ,
Because it would mean the dying of a race -> thus it's actually an ''gene deffect''

Natural selection. Your ancestry goes back to the first man. Hundred thousand years of progress ends with you. You are the first male or female in your family line to not make an attempt to find a heterosexual mate and create offspring. Everything they worked hard for, every sacrifice they ever made, ends with you.

Go ahead and throw a parade, I guess you being the last link in a chain of people who put others before themselves is something to celebrate(?).

Get back to us when the lions start having gay parades and fly rainbow flags.

Aye, Miguel Migueles de Jesús, la Santa Virgen, y todos los Santos. How did you know though?

Being truly gay is natural, but normalizing it and pushing it on society has consequences. The "anti gay" movement you are seeing is push back.

Yes it's "natural". Everything is "natural", even computers and skyscrapers are "natural".

Yes, manifests most strongly when the society is overpopulated.

No

Evolution doesn't have a perspective or side
>Because it would mean the dying of a race
Only if every member of the species was gay, what if being gay gives the species as a whole some survival advantage?

Those dudes look weak Tbh. Just low body fat

>Is deliberately doing something that gives you anal fissures, polyps, and a shit-filled foreskin and urethra natural?
No.

Only because you dittled her

Yes, but by the same logic: throwing gays off of a roof is also natural.

Right, cause faggots aren't extremely effeminate and prissy

Hope you enjoy getting thrown off a building after Islam conquers your pathetic little country.

False equivalence.

So anal sex in general is bad?

If it's natural then why do you hate it?

So anal sex with women is disgusting and not natural too?

That's not what is going on in that image, dummy, but I'm guessing you see faggotry everywhere you look.

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Women have vaginas. Why would you settle for something less? The colon stretches out too fast anyway.

Homosexual activity isn't really terribly unique or uncommon.

Where it becomes a problem is socially, when one or more people decide it is its own identity and lifestyle to compete with MORAL heterosexual behavior as deemed by the society. Then it more or less is the same problem as masturbation and prostitution combined, because it relieves the burden of family and procreation, and is free to boot. All the problems it causes, aside from associated promiscuity which is more medical than social, are society based. Which is why different societys have different levels of aversion to it.

Oddly, the activity is the most rampant in the most sexually restricted regions where the identity is practically non existent.

Its causes arent really the mystery people like to claim. Its generally an opportunist sexual behavior which fits male sexual psychology. As for the fuck ton of abstracts that have been built around it, especially ideas of identity, lifestyle, and my favorite, a biological 'state of being', its just all clap trap for males and females of all types who either interact with it or not, personally or not, trying to resolve how something so ridiculous can at once be so difficult to resolve socially.

Its right up there with society realizing there is something kind of problematic about masturbation but experiencing difficulty in condensing "how" into simple concepts that people can actually remember and practically apply, when it seems so harmless and ridiculous. Its one of those issues like recreational drugs where the individuals self interest is abstractly pitted against social obligations, and the fault is very abstract but the tangible reward seems so real.

>iterally everything that humans do is natural
>a sheepfucker

Sounds about right.

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>look, a fucking insect is doing it, why can't we?

Lots of screwy behavior-altering diseases are perfectly natural.

Nah, that's more than just low body fat. Those guys do work out (though I can't tell how hard), they just don't eat much of a surplus.

No. Go to the church and ask jesus to fix you

Is it happening in nature, by itself? Then yes.
If your definitition of natural is based on normal/unnormal or in terms of continuation of their species..,no

Holly shit, the lions are drinking tap wáter too.

>False equivalence.
Explain why. If your argument is that X is good because it's natural, why does it only apply to the specific things you want to do?

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Most vaginas are as disgusting as anuses desu

>that disparity in reported anal sex rates

Wow, women who do anal sex are statistically ten times sluttier. Good to know.

Anal sex is bad, you fucking retards. Try stick your dick outright into someone's asshole. Feces, disease, tearing, no lubrication.

Does it occur in nature? Yes.

Does that mean it should be embraced? No. Homosexuality serves for purpose with regards to passing on our genes, and this serves no purpose and may even harm the long-term survival of a species. It is a birth defect.

Lions having homosex is their way of showing dominance, that other lion won't make
any advancement to his lioness because he knows whose in control inf the group, and
as animals, they tend to do everything more dirty than us humans.

But yes, in humans, homosexuality is natural. But I believe it's nothing but a fetish since it has
no power of nature unlike real opposite sex giving of giving biological birth. Pedophilia is natural too, you know. But
to live as a successful society, we can't let homosexual couples destroy our binary system of doing things,
because that disrupts the female and male energy, for example, raising a kid should have two counterparts:
a feminine presence to show compassion and caring, a male counterpart to teach how to survive in the world.
Homosexual couples are both biologically male or female and cannot give the same vibes to a child which what a normal
couple could.

Sex is for birth. It hurts if you take it up there btw, and it's a plethora of disease because it's a place to eliminate
toxins and wastes from our system. And females can't do it properly without toys so... yeah. Males should adopt
a masculine role, females should with a feminine role - it's key how we're still alive for over thousands of years,
but now that's changing.

One could almost argue that homosexuality is purely a sexual fetish.

The look on her face lmao

It's only for males. Girls aren't natural homosexuals.

They aren't lmao, that's just the extreme stereotype. Most gays are super into their own bodies and work to improve them.

Everything that happens in this world is evidently natural. There are by definition no unnatural things, the distinction itself makes no sense.

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Lesbians are almost entirely personality-based. How many strict lesbians are there that do not use dildos, are not hyper dominant, and are not bisexual? Fucking none.

Here's a brand new study proving you wrong:

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Oh! it occurs in the jungle... Let's have a nigger aimal culture instead of our civilization yay!!!!!

fuck you buzerant and your fucking manipulated studies
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of course they are (fucking a guy in the ass is not a paranormal phenomenon you retard) but that is completely irrelevant to whether it's moral or not.

They can’t beat the fuck out of a lynch mob

This seems to be the case for many people on this site (i.e. trap fetishists)

Yes, here's some other things that are natural
>venereal diseases
>dying from eating poisonous plants
>dying from starvation
>getting killed for your possessions
>being born retarded

Feel free to add to the list, there is a lot I've missed.

I have two sons. One is 5 and one is 3. The 3 year old likes to pic girl characters in games.

Is he gay?

maybe he just likes cute girls

Is that a yes?

>The most gay thing in the pic ar those god damn Crocs.

Fpbp

Just wait until that aids kicks in and ends their lives in their 20's.

Maybe. I like cute girls. He also is big in to action and guns and swords so thats not gay. Idk he also kind of talks gay but hes just learning to talk so maybe thats why. I might sound like a troll but I really just overthink shit and dont want a fudge packer son.

This literally proves nothing about what I said wrong. I didn't say homosexual females don't exist because clearly they do. I just said it doesn't appear to be a biological thing decided in utero like it is for males. Also bi females are fake.

Yeah actual lesbians really seem to stem from family issues and external factors. Sucks that they're dreadful as fuck. Most are fat and disgusting.

well done

>it doesn't appear to be a biological thing decided in utero like it is for males

[citation needed]

It appears to be genetic for males and females, the latter is just far less studied.

If you're a guy and you play guy character's you're probably gay. I'm straighter than an arrow and always play female characters because I don't want to fucking stare at a dude running around for hours. Of course I'd want to see a sexy af girl going around doing shit instead.

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If you can't help but to sexualize any male character that you play as, then I have some fabulous news for you.

It happens in nature doesn't It?

In a sense that they are genetic mistakes and not true humans

Obviously, since it happens naturally.

>Idk he also kind of talks gay
Jesus christ he's fucking three years old you imbelice. Acting in a gay way in adulthood is entirely a learned behaviour, unless it's a speech impediment or naturally high pitched voice that happens to sound ridiculous. Even then it wouldn't affect other typically gay mannerisms like body language, inflection, word use etc.

>I might sound like a troll but I really just overthink shit and dont want a fudge packer son.
You absolutely are overthinking things and if you decide to punish or admonish him for what you perceive as gay when he's fucking three years old you stand a great chance of fucking up his head. Be a stable, dependable and involved father. Take your family on trips into nature and try to give your children a sense of self respect and pride in themselves and their accomplishments.

The word "natural" is a relative word to "artificial" meaning "not artificial", or, "not created by humans". It makes perfect sense to have words that represent things that we have made and things that we have not made. Your argument presents a poor understanding of linguistic philosophy.

Perhaps. But rape, infanticide, etc. is also natural.

Not saying people shouldn't be allowed to be gay and live their lives. But the "it's natural" argument is pretty retarded. Our morality isn't based on what animals do.

well user lets do some simple thinking real quick:
>natural is stuff that exists in nature
>homosexuality exists in nature

Are gays unnatural? Does a bear shit in the woods? Also as you probably know most pedophiles are gay. They are hurting our children.