Is the left/cultural marxists still growing faster than the right?

Since I first started realizing the real game the left is playing over 10 years ago, it has only gotten far far worse. It is going to get even worse before it gets better? What is the future?

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Is a counter to this dead?

I used to be a registered Democrat.
A soft leftist.
I now will be voting Alt-Right the moment a viable candidate arrives.
The left is devouring itself and the rest of civilization with it.
There will have to be a break-away group that decides to not go down with the leftist ship.
They will be conservative on a level you don't yet understand.

Yeah I was a leftist too, only after college I realized how brainwashed I was. BUT is the left still growing? Feels like it.

The left is growing, but in comparison to what?
Two things can grow, but if one grows faster than another then there is uneven growth.
Yes, the left is growing, but is it growing faster than the right?
What about those who are dying?
Boomers are notoriously leftist.
Boomers are dying.
The left may be shrinking on a net level, even though it grows in universities.
I too don't really know if it's growing on a net level.
I do know that conservatism has had incredible gains recently.
I have tacit optimism.
Those who would destroy western civilization are suicidal zealots.
But there are many who are rejecting civilizational self-immolation.
This is the time to engage culturally and knuckle under for the long haul.
Every minor victory should be cherished and used as a ratchet for the next goal.

>Trump won after the media spent a year saying it's impossible
>(((Is the left growing faster than the right?)))

There hasn't been a stronger right wing scene ever. So many activists, so many parties, so many movements. At the very least, we're equal in growth.

More likely however, is that we're slightly but surely winning

The right wing is winning by miles.

The left peaked with obama. Gen Z seems extremely conservative... and many people are converting away from leftist ideology. Not many are converting away from right wing ideology.

The only way the left grows is by identity politics, which is why they have to mass immigrate more 'voters'.

The left has no memes or edgy, thus kids don’t like it. Stalin and commies are not edgy because the media doesn’t care about it, while national socialism is seen as the worst possible thing therefore kids gravitate towards it.

I think that both the left and the right stopped growing. Most people are purposely trying to avoid politics because of the shit show it was last year.

Nope.
The left has spent decades subverting education and media circles, the fruits of their deceit only showing now.
The right has been actively fighting back for the last few years using the truth and little else. Studies, some speculation backed by reason and whichever shreds of evidence are available.

The Left won't grow much bigger than this or any faster, because it's based on deceit.
Truth meanwhile doesn't just set you free, it liberates you in an instant, so the more people there are telling the truth and following the logos, the faster people will "become right-wing".
That it's called right-wing is only by virtue of that leftist political diagram. The real ideological distinction is between a large centralised authoritarian gouvernment with career politicians, and a collection of tiny local gouvernments run by local citizens under the same ethnic roof.

It's ironic and not to be taken seriously. Just because someone speaks kindly of Hitler it doesn't mean they understand anything he did or the philosophy behind the movement.

Western civilization is in a down-swing.
All empires suffer from mass immigration during these periods.
The most important thing is to preserve the bloodline as much as is possible.
The right is making gainz.
This is not the time to set it on cruise control.
We're in a cultural war.
Which will turn hot sooner or later.
Certainly in the context of Islamic invasion.
(Traitors first)

I’m sure people who talk about communism means they understand anything behind Stalin or the philosophy of communism.

Good post, I know we are in the long game

Ignorance allied with "Gib me dat" the ideology.

This. The truth is on our side and we will prevail in the end.

The future is even more increased polarity, without the main trajectory truly being altered at the top levels. Change will seem to happen, but it's only superficial.
And then finally the singularity will happen and none of it will matter.

They're seizing power of institutions and exerting control. I don't think they're growing in the sense that they're winning hearts and minds of the people.

18 yo ausfag here
for every 1 alt righter Sup Forumsack i know irl i know 5-10 hardcore revolutionary marxists
the pol/acks/

Communism created fake socioeconomic hierarchy in which they pitted the people of a nation against each other based solely on their successes. Its ultimate goal is self destruction of the society and the overturning of the natural rule of law in favor of the weak over the strong.

No, they are just screeching louder, the groundswell is on the right

No you don’t, you think you do.

Most people don’t let their true feelings out

anonymousconservative.com/blog/leftist-groups-begin-to-splinter/
"The white leftist SJWs of today will ultimately end up writing white nationalist material which will make the Alt-right uneasy. They will do it because the minorities and victim groups will have ejected them from their ranks, and the White leftist, alone, afraid, and enraged over the betrayal will respond with more amygdala than any of us would have while looking rationally at the situation. That amygdala will fuel extremism, of a sort we are just not capable of today."
Beware the newly converted SJW's. They will be capable of cruelty on par as Gestapo/Gulag

I think it seems like it because Leftists tend to be more vocal about it, while most alt-right and alt-lite people I know are fairly quiet about it.

The left just wants to virtue signal and pat each other on the back on social media while the alt-right plays the quiet, patient long game.

The right is actually afraid to speak up, that's the political situation Obama created.

I assume people never touch on it out of embarrassment of not being able to speak freely in the country of free speech.

While I would say you are seeing parts of the left fracture, they still have cultural dominance. That is slowly beginning to change, but as Han Solo said "don't get cocky kid".

You see burger, most of the world isnt as fucking brainwashed as you guys
It's actually laughable watching Sup Forumstards shill for a mainstream political candidate and then post him betraying you multiple times still lick up his cum stains from fucking your asshole raw.
Only the mentally deranged unstable upper middle neckbeards support your cause, the working class have started seeing through the smoke and mirrors of capitalism - and its best friend, Fascism.
Your rule is about to end, by vote or bullet. Before you start flaming as muh sjw or muh subhuman, my IQ is >1 SD higher then yours with more STEM education under my belt at 18 then your sorry ass, and I had to work for it, because white working class people have been shafted just the same as blacks used to.
Race only came into existence post feudalism as a tool for control, just as the idea of a nation. The proleteriat is rising, I see it even in non political normies who think they can hide their beliefs, young and poor people who represent an increasing portion of the west are angry, angry at the rich class and their puppets; you.
I used to be a Sup Forumstard like you all, till I experienced the world more and read.
to anyone reading this, I'd recommend actually reading some of Karl Marx with an open mind unless you come from a position of economic privledge.If your working class and genuinely falling to nazism/fascism you need to have a good hard look at yourself, why are you serving people wealthier then yourself to attack the poor?

When a nigger stabs you to death, will you think back on this thread?

People have tried to kill me before

People have tried to kill me before too, but that's not what I asked you.

Yes my fellow Americans, I shall be voting for alt-right candidate as soon as I can.

I never reveal my power level in public. Sometimes I feign leftism and marxist thinkinng just to blend in. We are your doctors, your postman, your engineers, we are everywhere and nowhere user.

Also the truth can be discovered anywhere, lies have to be spread like a contagion. But the cure and immunisation is ever renewing. Truth is the ultimate warfare.

When did trump backstab us?

Why are you being such a sperg that you panic over every twist and then during a negotiation on law

The poor deserve to be poor

Go be a virtue signalling pussy somewhere else you colossal faggot

>What is the future?

The future is a globalist\socialist cyberpunk dystopia.

I've been stabbed by aut righters on three occasions, two of them are dead and the other is a vegetable now.
If you think dominant political discourse is actually marxist/leftist you are delusional beyond savability. Read a fucking book, you can pirate them for free or use the stolen labor of the working class you horde to buy them, but still you are fucking braindead

>I turn fruits into vegetables

Damn, well let me back off now crocodile Dundee who wasn't gunned down by police.

Race is a fundamental reality that has always created heirarchy. The believe that heirarchy is created by social economic forces subjugates natural biological order to some fictitious sociological beliefs. While biology and ecomomic success are correlated, socioeconomics is not the causal force of natural order.

I want you to prove to me that the poor don't deserve to be poor. Prove to me that children shouldn't receive the benefit of hard work or guile or luck or the wit/manipulation of their ancestors,

Prove that the survival of the fittest is a poor model for making the best society possible. Prove that rewarding the best performers is a bad idea.

Fucking faggot.

I was a socialist interested by the even more left ideologies. Then I met the people here. Then I worked for communists. Then I met diversity.

We must secure a future for white children.

I fully believe SJWs would be the Inquisition, or the "right wing death squads" if society were reversed. I think Jordan Peterson says this at some point, that we would be the Nazis in Nazi germany, but this applies even moreso to the SJWs. They would be the ones carrying out violent acts.

People who have been recently converted to the "right wing" aren't extremists, they're people who are capable of looking at reality objectively and not blindly follow society

Yet Sup Forumss race scientist beliefs have no grounding in biology or human biology. Meme graphs from the 1890s or some intelligence study in 1990s michigan dont prove inherient superiority of one race over another. You always chimp out when liberal sjws go on about blacklivesmatter/liberal IDPOL yet you think your white race fetishism of 1930's germany isnt the exact same fucking thing, perhaps even more intense?

Marxism is about workers receiving the full fruits of their labour in a meritocracy. Thats it. Not some voodoo kill the white man shit. Read a fucking book and stop using your reddit spacing you fucking newfag

You're so fucking stupid, if you ever worked a day in your miserable cucked fucking life you wouldn't have wasted everyone's time shitting out this comment.

>my IQ is >1 SD higher then yours
>higher then yours
>then
3/10 for effort

Do you understand how evolution works?

in what sense is "to each according to needs, from each according to ability" a meritocracy?

Yes
We live in a post-evolution society, given even within the confines of capitalism we are moving towards post-scarcity meaning competition of resources has moved towards cooperation. Darwin fucking wrote about this.
Ok, want to compare actual IRL taken IQ scores then big guy?

So you agree that two mating German Shepard’s won’t produce a pitbull?

If so how is race not grounded in biology?

I make 6 figures buddy, and write my own checks.

The poor deserve to be poor because they are either stupid, lazy, or because their ancestors are of worthless stock. If they can't rise above the failures of their ancestors, they DESERVE TO FAIL. We already have charities and social security to take care of these worthless members of society. They can stay poor.

Very few people know my political philosophy.
You're forgetting those, like me, who remain silent.
If shit goes down and we go open season . . .
I don't think I'll be alone.

>Not being a 7 figure Wendies chef

Get the fuck out of here Skylar

In a post-capitalist society the whole premise of marxism is worker ownership of the means of production - Factories, Buildings etc that create profit, not personal property such as phones/laptops/golf clubs etc. Thus workers in whatever profession they voluntarily work to contribute to society get the full fruits of their labor rather then the tiny fraction given under Capitalism - meaning a meritocracy will exist as you will earn what your worth, rather then the disproportionate more or less earned by the Bourgeois and Proletariat respectively.

The left isnt growing so much as radicalizing. Center left people are becoming left and far left far more than they used to

>We live in a post-evolution society,
No we don't. Why should society weaken itself by continually uplifting the vermin who are too dumb to do anything worthwhile their countries, or with the aid we give them?

Tell me that Africa is worth pouring into for some reason OTHER than "it's a nice thing to do". Prove that it is WORTH it.

>tfw only 10" dick

Sounds legit faggot.

Comparing dog breeds to humans is unintelligible and unscientific. However in terms of race their are tiny differences such as bone density, skin color etc, none that make different races seperate species or peoples. Geographical separation of races hardly has existed and previous races of humans have interbred to create what resembles modern races that are still alive. Scientists dont even refer to race anymore because its not even a scientific term anymore - its a cultural and political one.

How much should a doctor make compared to a dish washer?

Learn the difference between a Liberal and a Marxist before you bring your r/donald cancer reddit spacing ass in here you fucking faggot.
Nice cuck flag

The doctor should make the full value of their labor they produce
The dish washer should make the full value of their labor they produce.

>However in terms of race their are tiny differences such as bone density, skin color etc, none that make different races seperate species or peoples

These exact same differences make different species and subspecies within every other animal group on earth.

Why is it different for humans?

So you agree that the differences between the races are grounded in biology? If not, why don’t two whites reproducing produce a black child?

Workers do. Their labor is not worth millions. The aggregate of their labor is, and the boss makes that possible
>live in a post-evolution society
lol
>Ok, want to compare actual IRL taken IQ scores then big guy?
Lets.

Who determines this value?

What do you think they should earn? Give a number.

I don't believe you.
Also, you use the rhetoric of a Commie.
If there's a day of the rope watch your back.
There's a reason the phrase "traitors first" exists.
Good luck in life, Commie filth.

Any growth from the left is by Jew shills.
The population as a whole is moving right, the Jew media wants us to believe otherwise.

The value of what you produce can be distorted by various things. The AMA is basically a cartel for the medical industry that keeps the price of medical care high.

The Left is utterly incompetent but has a growing base of reliable shitskin voters. The (Alt)Right is a lot more effective, but doesn't have a large pool to draw from. So it's anyone's game. Quantity vs quality.

Fucking Commie.
Openly advocating a death panel.
Good God, you're not even fit to be called an animal.

>big guy?
You were being subtle before but come on now.
>communism with robots
You still won't be able to solve the calculation problem, even with AI.
>post-scarcity
>competition of resources has moved towards cooperation
>he thinks his cheap made in China crap means we are post-scarcity
L O L Holy fuck, dude.
>being this wrong

No they are geographical and represent a clustering of allele frequency due to previous geographical isolation which no longer exists nor ever can. Put simply the concept of race died out once capitalism started connecting the world together.
No workers inheriently cannot receive the full fruits of their labor under a capitalist economic system, if they did a contradiction would exist as the concept of profit would not be possible - but it is because CEO's and Company share holders - the bourgeois continue to have increased dividends and profits.
Their is no simple numerical answer for how much aggregate surplus each individual worker makes, the concept of currency would also be abolished.
I owe you no allegiance as you owe me none. We are sworn enemies.
Upload IQ test results taken by a psychiatrist/psychologist with timestamp, I will do the same. 15IQ SD is standard.

This many arguing with an aussie about communism....

Wake up, nufags.

> Calls them nufags
> reddit spacing
Honestly, political divide aside,
Sincerely gas yourself.

>sub-species exist for all animals
>except humans because muh racism
You're an anti-science retard.
Even Darwin disagrees with you.

You never grew up around the poor, did you?

You sound like an ignorant fucking college professor trying to spread his ideology.

You think it's going to get better?

It's never going to get better. The well has been poisoned.

You are going to live through a dystopia that makes 1984, animal farm, and brave new world look like wonderful paradises.

You all the crazy fucked up shit you've read about in history books and have deluded yourself into thinking were in the past? Think again.

The only thing we can hope for is that the future will feel regret for what is happening now and what will happen soon.

>Yet Sup Forumss race scientist beliefs have no grounding in biology or human biology.

And now you believe that race represents a clustering of allele frequencies?

>No workers inheriently cannot receive the full fruits of their labor under a capitalist economic system
Not true cause they totally do. The aggregate of their labor is where profit comes from. Individually they are worthless you twat.

I’ll die in a pile of brass first

Race =/= Sub-Specie
I come from a working class family, my dad is a mechanic and my mother a receptionist. My Grandfather worked two jobs as a labourer to put food on the table as an immigrant from Ireland. You've never had it tough and thats why your a fascist - to continue the status quo of economic exploitation of the white and black proleteriat because it benefits you. Or your a delusional class traitor.

You are a certified retard.

>You've never had it tough and thats why your a fascist

Pfffhahaha.

I bearly even saw another white person during elementary school you lying kike faggot.

I didn't swear us enemies.
You're Commie filth.
If you came to my house I wouldn't lay a finger on you.
That said, I have a loaded gun just in case creatures like you decide to have your little revolutions near me.
Go fuck yourself.

Just because the words are different does not mean the concepts are.

>No they are geographical and represent a clustering of allele frequency due to previous geographical isolation which no longer exists nor ever can. Put simply the concept of race died out once capitalism started connecting the world together.
You seriously know nothing about biology. Those genetic differences don't go away because the world is connected. If you're a dog breeder, do you choose the 2 with the highest IQ's, or do you choose the dumbest mutts with the most violent tendencies?

Do you know what the warrior gene is? If so, explain how the world being connected makes it not exist.

>Their is no simple numerical answer for how much aggregate surplus each individual worker makes, the concept of currency would also be abolished.

All this bullshit commiespeak to say "I dunno, not my job...or yours...but...uh...yeah this system is awesome!"

You are deluded beyond reason.

Darwin disagrees with you.
If you can tell the difference between two populations you have a sub-species.
You may not like Darwinian evolution or taxonomy, but that's too fucking bad.
Go read a book.

the natural order is meritocratic because competence inspires loyalty (sensei/pupil archetype).
imo, Marxism undermines this by making competent people bend the knee to bureaucrats and humiliating them.
the actual power goes to people who are good at gaming the system, same as the neoliberal status-quo

Roman Catholic Anglo-Irish, not that any of that should matter, but of course I'm a kike because I actually make a compelling argument against your Nazi masturbation fantasies.

No.
You're a common Marxist.
In the event of a revolution you'll be scraped from the bottom of a boot.

Commies are NOT human

You win the thread, my dude.

Congratulations.

Here's another (You).

:^)

If you shitposted on Facebook you'd at least get kudos for selling your country out for a nickle.

I unironically agree.

>18 years old
>master baiter

a main problem is that the leftist cucks control the education system and the mainstream meda in some countries, and thus the narrative.

some schools literally brainwash their students by teaching them only leftist ideas without questioning them.