Why is Griffith so hated when literally anyone would have done the same thing in his situation?

Why is Griffith so hated when literally anyone would have done the same thing in his situation?

Because Sup Forums fools themselves to think they're above anyone so they try to claim the moral high ground.

The problem isn't his decision during the Eclipse, the problem is his decisions up until that point starting with when Guts wanted to leave were all fucking moronic.

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he brought everything upon himself. If he wasn't prophesied to be a member of the God Hand he would have died as some loser in a dungeon

the only choice he made after guts left was fucking charlotte which is understandable since his husbando dumped him

well i may sacrifice people if my life is in danger but thats it.
i wouldn't rape my friend's live interest in front him while he is being mutilated just for the lolz and i would certainly apologies if i resurrect in mortal world and try to ressurect my friends back

>Make a contract with some demon necklace to revive yourself after getting fucked up
Yep probably most people would
>But you have to kill almost everyone you knew and loved just to accomplish this, thus destroying their dreams and goals in life to selfishly save yourself
Yeah no.
>And as an extra fuck you, rape your best friend's girlfriend for no real given reason as to why and then leave them both to die when the world has gone to shit around them
Why would anyone who isn't a sociopath do this? Griffith did everything wrong. Granted, he did get burned, castrated, and several muscles severed, but even if I was him, I don't think the price to pay would be worth the reward.

He was in the best possible position but then decided to go "waaaah my boyfriend left me so I'm gonna force myself on the princess and lose fucking everything."

Or he could not have been a bitch about it and accepted that Guts wanted to find his own path in life.

>Yeah no.
Thanks for proving me right.

He is fucked up, and messed with the wrong king heh. Should ask his permission first.

Griffith did nothing wrong

femto doesn't have feelings so yes you probably would

after a year of torture and being shown illusions by flying octopus dwarf anyone would do what he did

In what way exactly? Are you telling me you would crush all the people you loved and lived around's dreams and goals to fulfill your own?

>In what way exactly?
Are you telling me you would crush all the people you loved and lived around's dreams and goals to fulfill your own?
If all the people I loved equal 1 then yes, even more when they were troops that were there for MY dream and most of them had no dreams aside from serving me. Go on.

>>In what way exactly?
Yeah in what way exactly did I prove you right? Can you read?
Well if they exist for your dream, what's the point in killing them? They'll still be loyal to you or your mentality/ideology, even after you deceased and could carry it on as well. Seem likes a losing game to just go "lol fuck it I'll become a demon".

Griffith has no honor, just a selfish fuck who got tricked. Played like a fiddle. The Band of the Hawk was his family, they worshiped the ground he walked on. He was their starring leader.

And he betrayed them. He betrayed the people who risked their lives to rescue him in the first place. He's a back stabbing failure, who should have died in that room. A coward, nothing more.

And after he got what he wanted, it still wasn't ebough. He raped the women his only friend loved. Why? What type of person would do that? Surely no one good with any sense of justice. That illusion about him having his own castle and all the corpses he had to step over to achieve it, it just showed how truly selfish Griffith is.

I would have rather died than out the people who loved me through that. I think most real people with a conscience would.

Casca, Guts and Griffith all got sexually abused when they were children but Griffith is the only one who went and raped someone. Think about that for a second.

1. be a mute cripple until death, knowing you killed thousands for nothing
2. become demigod for sacrificing a few more

after being tortured to the point where you're barely sane I find it hard to believe you wouldn't pick 2
it probably isn't a morally good choice but it's perfectly understandable thing to do under the circumstances

>Yeah in what way exactly did I prove you right? Can you read?
Apparently you can't.
>Well if they exist for your dream, what's the point in killing them?
Because their deaths will get me there, the same way he sold his ass just so that they'll didn't die early.
>"lol fuck it I'll become a demon"
I already knew you were retarded just from the fact that you didn't agree with me so no worries.
He became a "demon" because he was literally fucked, there was no way he would be able to achieve his dreams without his body, hell, the Hawks would had fallen apart faster that they did without him, and if he didn't then all his hardships and the Hawks would had been for nothing.
Why reply to me?

cause you didn't use meme arrow and I didn't read properly

>Why is Griffith so hated when literally anyone would have done the same thing in his situation?

Not everyone that lurks Sup Forums is a psychopath so jot that down.

If Griffith is a psychopath then how did the sacrifice work? It only works when you sacrifice people you care about. Checkmate atheists

>Not everyone that lurks Sup Forums is a psychopath

Beyond that raping Casca and forcing Guts to watch wasn't pragmatic. It was just cruel.

This. Sure what Griffith did accomplished his "dream" but anyone rational would throw that dream away if it meant killing those you found as your people and your family.

FUCKING THIS.

I came here to post this. Everything would've worked out just fine if he didn't go MUH GUTS while throwing his plans out the window.

Same reason everyone hates the likes of Ohgi and Seishin Muroi. They're fucking pricks but we wish we were them. Still, fuck 'em.

Griffith didn't attain godhood so he could help the world. He did it so he could screw it over more and crown himself at the top of the rubble.

I am a fucking terrible person, but I feel completely justified in saying I am a better and more ethical decision maker than Griffith

Griffith was essentially engineered to make his choices so I don't blame him at all.

>meant killing those you found as your people and your family.
He has already sacrificed a ton of his people on the way to the castle.
Just going "nah I'll pass" would be just as criminal

I don't trust your spiel on fate Void.

Immortality and omnipresence don't equate to omniscience.

>thousands already being dead due to the decisions you've made justifies killing infinitely more people in the future

Griffith objectively did nothing wrong and his actions were completely justified.

>literally anyone
stop posting, griffith. you're a cunt, end of discussion.

>anyone would have done the same thing in his situation
No.
I'd sacrifice my companions to save myself and heal my fucked up, tortured, mutilated body, sure. But I wouldn't fuck the princess on a whim which would put me in the situation of needing to be saved in the first place

I know a person like Griffith that have alot of his traits of personality,He does what is logical when the time comes making the best out of situations BUT ignoring his own heart which bites him in the ass later when it comes time to hit the "fuck it up" button.

When you really get down to it, isn't Griffith's sacrifice really for the greater good? Sure, he wiped out the Band of the Hawk, (which, mind you, was a mercenary band that killed and raided), sure he betrayed them, but to what results? Currently, he IS saving hundreds of thousands of civilians as well as protecting them from countless horrors. He has made all of humanity unify together underneath one banner, and ended these petty wars (of which he used to participate in) that dictated human history. With a common goal of safety for all inhabitants, Falconia truly is a shining jewel.

Masturbating is literally killing your lost offspring and all the descendants they could have had.

He doomed the entire world

Whether or not you'd have done the same thing is irrelevant

also since he doesn't understand his own heart,he cant understand others.

Just a bunch of cells :^)

I don't have to type it now

people don't honestly give much consideration to the idea of being torture for a year straight. they just think "yeah, that would suck, but..."
they don't honestly put much thought into beyond that though. ANYONE would do the same in his position, and you're deluded if you think you wouldn't.

Retard brought it on himself. He deserved what he got

i assume grifis is just the puppet of some dark god and the end game is some massive eclipse on all the midlands

The horrors are there just because griffith is in his humane form. Because one of the god hand is living as corporeal form, everything is changing.
This faggot is not saving the world, he is just killing every lifeform outside his kingdom. People just have no other choice. Trolls and ogres was just legends until griffith come to earth, now there are everywhere raping and gangbang´n everyone who has a health pussy.

>1.kys and die
>2. Heal and be a shadow of your formerself along with your friends to support you
>3. sacrifice your friends and get a new body

You know what else sucks? The entirety of Guts and Casca's lives after they risked everything to save Griffith from his own mistakes.

sacrifice your friends and become a god*

but if you were just granted a demonic bird penis, wouldn't you want to try it out on the first person you saw?

So was his friends, living an year of hiding and running.

The only one who take a vacation year is Gutts, everyone else is hiding for theirs lifes. In the end, only 10% of the band is alive and trying to save grifis.

>friends are dying to save you
>they finally found you and save you
>your retribution is killing all of them to buy a new dick

Nah, Guts was retarded for leaving the band in the 1st place. It's all his fault to begin with, and Casca agrees with me.

If only Griffith wasn't a autistic shit maybe he would have relieved how much his friends loved/risked to save him.

Griffith raped the Princes and is the reason he was tortured

Its was 100% consensual sex.

His real sin was spilling his stuff all over the floor "6: i just dont give a fuck motherfucker let the bodies hit the floor" style and not cleaning it up before leaving, which caused the king to notice.

Maybe you need to read the manga again to know the reason why he was leaving.

>not wanting to live in a shadow anymore
>going off to do your own thing like you've always have
>retarded
Gut decision was clear, Griffith reaction to guts decision was not and because of Griffith reaction they are paying for it now.

GANISHKA WOULD HAVE CONQUERED THE WHOLE WORLD

>it all lies within casualty

>If all the people I loved equal 1 then yes, even more when they were troops that were there for MY dream and most of them had no dreams aside from serving me. Go on.
yeah, good for you pal, but we aren't all the same
I don't really get what's the thing here with people thinking everyone would think the same way on a certain situation.
i guess i understand how saying this could make me look like i'm thinking too much of myself, or whatever shit like that. but i wouldnt.
I mean, i don't know how my brain would work after being tortured for as long as he was, all i can say is that if i had that choice right here and now, to kill every single person i've met and become a demigod, i wouldn't take it
Don't want to believe it? well alright, it's not like this argument is a big deal

As much as I love this guy, I can't help but feel like killing the Godhand will have some consequences on the world that only he knows about.

Ah well, fuck it.

> It all lies within causality
What are the odds Farnesse finds a way to screw it all up?

100% everytime guts makes a new ally or even takes a shit he disrupts fate. Farnese is outside the current as long as she continues to follow guts

Uh. Let me clarify.

What are the odds Farnesse finds a way to fuck up causality? She's got a pretty good track record of cocking things up.

What dos the Godhand do that's so important (they look like committee)? Keeping the astral plane in balance? Does skulbro want to destroy the plane or the balance and fuck everything up?Maybe be the only godhand left since the others are cunts.

I think I know the manga fairly well, probably better than yourself. Like this scene here, for example, where Guts admits he made a mistake that took him a year to realize.

She already found a way. That way is guts

so the only plot points left are:
-What will healed Casca do
-Island slowing time
-Charlotte's marriage and Griffith's coronation
-Griffith sacrificing the human population of Falconia
-Zodd, Slan, SK, Void backstories
-Guts and Zodd's final duel
-Killing the rest of the apostle generals, Serpico will take Irvine
-Slan will certainly try something again with Guts before being killed in the final battle
-SK killing Void
-Killing the other God Hand
-Magical upgrades
-Joining with Rickter/Silat
-Vitrannis Alliance against Griffith
-Guts VS Femto
-Idea of Evil
-Bad ending

Okay so know it's starting to get a bit convoluted here. Is guts outside the casualty because he survived the eclipse? Then what about casca?

Even fricking Corkus, the guy who doesn't believe in dreams or higher ambitions worth a damn, stuck it out running for his life as an outlaw just for the slight hope of maybe having Griffith back.

Lack of perspective.

Here was a guy who shouldered the burden of the entire group. He sacrificed his own wellbeing and his own body to feed/arm his soldiers. Yet they keep him at arms length because his nature is that of a charismatic leader. Hence comes Gutts who treats him as equal, a friend, etc. Griffith's heart changes as a result of this friendship. When Gutts decides to leave, he couldn't figure out why Gutts would leave, after all, what more could Gutts want that Griffith couldn't provide. So Griffith falls into depression and loses his composure.

Finally after the torture, after realizing he's lost all he can offer to the world, his primal desire to simply regain that glory took root.

People who cannot realize this feeling do not understand the weight Griffith has to carry and had carried.

>-Bad ending
Miura already stated he wanted to do a happy ending.

>No guts slaying a dragon
>No guts going to kushan land

go away griffith

Dumb frogposter

He changed his mind. If I wake one morning feeling that my life have no sense, it's only logical that I want to change thing and sort myself out. It will still be logical if I feel that there was no need to do nothing at all.

At this point, anymore diversions would make the manga take even longer than it already is.

I'm actually hoping it's just a straight path from here. I need muh conclusion.

Conrad's the only one I remember having a day job, and that was just spreading the plague around.

Because a majority of the people who post here would be naive enough to follow a man of his calibur.
And their fate would be the same as his pawns

The way Berserk works, if you ever got into that situation you would have to be Griffith to your very core anyways.

The simple point of a person willing to sacrifice those around them to not only restore their ravaged body but to accomplish their primary desire still holds weight though. Most people cant even imagine the kind of suffering he went through, or having such burning ambition.

I bet killing the GodHand will result in a total cutoff of anything non-physical from the physical world. No more magic, no elves, no afterlife, nothing

Rest well sweet prince.

Its only in the 300s lmao. Berserk has the potential to reach 500 or even 1000 if miura wanted an arc for each godhand and some fantasy monsters slayed(dragon, headless horseman, giant, minitaur etc) just have hope lol. He's gonna come back with a monthly or a weekly contract soon

Miura lost the passion for Berserk, he only continues because he needs the money

>tfw Irvine will eventually die
he is best apostle

Casca will be the one to give Griffith the finishing blow during his final moments. Screencap this.

The way I see it, the Godhand is more or less the reason why humans are such pieces of shit, acting as agents(very loose use of the word) of the Idea of Evil.
Dude, Miura is not going to keep it going for that long. It's just not in him anymore. He's lost the passion for it.

It'll be finished dude even if something happens to him he has the ending written sown has also asked Kubo to finisg it

>Following a strong, charismatic and resourceful leader is naive
I rest my case.

I just want to see Zodd, Slan and SK&Void backstories

I don't even care if the manga never finishes

Fucking this.

what's the consensus on Gigantomakia?

It's pretty good. The art is great because it's Miura. It isn't getting the attention it deserves though because all anyone wants is Berserk.

>Conrad spreads disease and vermin
>Ubik whispers "do it faggot" to random people all day
>Void stands around all day like a giant awkward lanklet and talks philosophy to himself because tfw too intelligent to actually do anything
>Slan cameos in cultist meetings and thinks of how badly she wants to have a session of rape and murder with Guts with no preference of who's on the recieving end
>Femto plans how he's going to fuck up everything and teamkill everyone again

>the Godhand is more or less the reason why humans are such pieces of shit
I think humanity does a pretty solid job of that on their own, but spreading Behelits and disease certainly isn't helping anyone.

That's what I meant. You worded it better.

>Gigantomakia
Didn't read it after I saw the image of the little girl straight-up getting ready to piss on the guy.

Not what I'm looking for Miura.