Remember to appreciate your favorite VAs and all the shit they go through to share their gifts with all of us

Remember to appreciate your favorite VAs and all the shit they go through to share their gifts with all of us.

Also a delusion breaker for stupid weebs.

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>m-muh job security
>despite earning fucking oodles more than animators and basically anyone fucking else
Talking props need to be silent unless paid to speak, mate.
Kubrick was right. Every media with audio should have listened when they had the chance.

Unlike that old hag, mai seiyufu is young, beautiful and talented.

Maybe she's just upset because she hasn't had a major role in years.

Most VAs get paid starvation wages. You need to be one of the most famous names to get real money.

>meanwhile, seiyu stars make on average 600k a year while animators get paid 20k

Oh, life sure is tough for voice acting! I'm sure you practice a lot more than those lazy animators and you work for 15 hours a day for months straight!

>meanwhile, seiyu stars make on average 600k a year
>stars

Most seiyuus earn around 150 dollars per episode.

Trash seyuu.

>walk into a comfortable studio with AC
>clerks bring you water, coffee, doughnuts, whatever you want
>literally read lines into a mic for a couple of hours at most, generally put on a lewd voice or a cute voice or shout like a loony
>actually charge money for it

Whew, life sure is tough for these poor girls. Consider what a non-star does for a single episode. It's like having a really tiny conversation, most probably get done in 20-30 minutes. Only the main characters have to work for many hours, and they get paid good cash.

>I've met many ppl in US and Canada who have dreams to be a seiyu in Japan
Are these people literally, actually autistic? How is it possible to be this much of a weeaboo caricature?

Of course that old hag would say stuff like that. She's washed up and has no appeal in the current market that demands idol seiyuu.

Sorry mate, but you don't seem to know anything about the topic whatsoever, you just have formed a strong opinion with no facts backing it.

Try reading this page for starters so you don't spout so much shit:
seiyuuplus.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/71-seiyuu-castings-earnings-everything-in-between/

More than half of the job is marketing yourself and auditions.

Man their job sure is time consuming, it's not like they can work a part time or side job. Fucking animators who dare they bitch if they spent less time sleeping they could do some night shifts at a 7/11

A lot of people are under the impression that because anime is fun, working in anime must be fun too, instead of backbreaking and soulcrushing drudgery that leaves you eating the cheapest instant ramen 6 days a week.

>actually charge money for it
What the fuck? Should they do it for free?

yes. they are.

people that go to conventions can be placed anywhere on a five point scale, ranking from least to worst.

normies, nerds, autistic low (socially inept and aware, fuckin retarded and embarrassed of it) autistic high (full blown fuckin retard autists with no shame or knowledge of their actions) and grand wizard weaboo

the full autism spectrum exists between autism low and high

I met a ukranian chick who wanted to do that. She went over there and tried once and was planning to try again.`

You're an autistic edgy retard and you're misinterpreting Kubrick as well. Please fucking kill yourself immediately you fucking donut.

You seem to be really insanely jealous to some chicks who get paid less than minimum wage. The fuck is wrong with you?

>he thinks actors should have become the pool of filth they are now
>you donut
Oh I'm talking to one of you

Could you be any more of a transparent bitter wage slave if you tried?

Doesn't change the fact that you think you're intelligent for citing kubrick when you actually have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Fuck off back to Sup Forums.

Why are you so crusty about this?

>wageslave
Better than a NEET who worships puerile nobodies. Idol culture was a mistake and seiyu culture is basically the same thing. Disappear to /jp/

I'm saying the fact that you get paid for whispering "o-o..oniii chaan" into a mic automatically denies you the right to complain, when animators have to become literal zombies while drawing like fucking gods to barely survive.

There's nothing surprising there, you have to go through auditions.. no-fucking-shit! But of course they will get paid bad cause their work is not as demanding and there's a reason as to why they are not famous. If they are really good, they only need to land a single role and they will always be called again, eventually becoming rich and famous. And if they suck.. why complain? That's what you get for sucking at acting, pennies, that's all you deserve.

Just how mad are you that you work 50 hours a week even though you think you're so above it all because you use words like puerile? Exactly how mad? Be honest.

>these sentences
figures that you're a fucking ESL with mental retardation this severe

/ic/ detected

That you think speaking about Kubrick and using the word puerile are noteworthy is more telling than my doing so. Nice defence of the cancer culture that is idols and seiyu, by the way.

Let me guess, you only watch """manime""" and just got off the boat from reddit.

I see you live in some kind of fantasy land where talent and hard work is always rewarded.

I have no problem talking about Kubrick. I have a problem when you completely misrepresent his positions, fag.

He called you out on being a pretentious faggot when you don't know what you're talking about. Pseudo-intellectualism is cringeworthy, not cool.

>backbreaking and soulcrushing drudgery that leaves you eating the cheapest instant ramen 6 days a week.

Unless you're a ceo or working for a foreign company this is how all of japan works. 70 hour work weeks coming home to a wife who only cares about her child.

You sound like you're fourteen, fifteen at most.

>muh poor kawai jap actresses! I jack off to their voices they have to be millionaires!
Yeah, if you actually learn to draw you'll realize it's a craft that takes thousands of hours to get good at, while 90% of anime japanese voice acting is cookie cutter trash.
been on Sup Forums since 08', your reddit meme is just your cognitive dissonance manifesting

That's what artists get for sucking at drawing, pennies, that's all they deserve.

Why complain? :^)

I can feel the fat coming from this post

>misrepresent
A claim which you've made multiple times but never backed up.

But sympathising with a used-up, over-paid attention seeking facebook post is the height of cool? VAs and actors, east and west, are given too much attention and influence. Writers and animators are the main source of good media but get shat on. Even if they weren't shat on the cult like following of talking props is beyond the pale. Call me what you want but if you're not going to refute me, what's the point?

>That you think speaking about Kubrick and using the word puerile are noteworthy is more telling than my doing so
That makes literally no fucking sense.

> I-i'm really good g-guys!.. it's just that no one in the world can notice except my mom!
How fucking retarded are you?

Oh, you sure sound older.

So why isn't everyone on earth a voice actor, you dense fuck?

>Yeah, if you actually learn to voice act you'll realize it's a craft that takes thousands of hours to get good at, while 90% of japanese animation is cookie cutter trash.

What the actual fuck is wrong with you? Did a seiyuu kill your dog or something? You're so mad and envious over some of the worst paid people in the world. First you spouted completely made-up shit about "600k average", and when people called you out on your horseshit, you started sputtering about how easy it is and how people should apparently do voice work for free or something. Are you retarded? Do you think anyone would ever watch a single episode of an anime that doesn't have voices? Get the fuck out.

Not him but, that's a sadness left discussed another time. We're talking about relative levels here.

Referring to a director shouldn't be shocking to people in a thread about similar industries and roles. Puerile isn't an obscure or difficult word. It shouldn't come of as pseudo-intellectualism and that either of those things would says plenty about where people approaching the topic from.

>bro kubrick and actor hate
It's so fucking boilerplate Sup Forums pseudo intellectual edgelord it hurts. You need to go back.

You're so kawaii

TN: kawaii means cute

>envious
At what? Their ability to hoover attention away from more important elements of media production? Maybe.

Cause less than 0.01% of the population even tries to be one, and even then, most of them suck? How does your question makes sense?

>actually believing this
Only classically trained and stage actors actually practice at all. Most of cheap voice actors/actresses for animations just naturally have an expressive voice and want to make cash out of it, and Sup Forums wants to pretend going through fucking interviews is actually hard work.

I don't actually post on Sup Forums mate but you're starting to make it sound appealing.
How are you so familiar with them, by the way?

>How dare ATTRACTIVE people earn money
>We should be funneling money towards ART (and by ART I mean what I approve of)
>Everybody who disagrees with me is an IDOL WORSHIPPER

You're a literal commie. Fuck off.

>Puerile isn't an obscure or difficult word.
Don't kid yourself. No one finds it a hard word, but nobody uses it in casual conversation. You used it because you're trying to pretend like you've read a couple books.

Every post you make just drips of envy and jealousy. I don't understand why, because these chicks get paid shit and their work is way harder than you pretend it is. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. They get paid so little that they literally cannot live off of it unless they're constantly getting a stream of new gigs, so they run around all day selling themselves. That's where their hours go, promo work, which is real work in case you dumb fuck didn't know.

>Only classically trained and stage actors actually practice at all
Kahahahaha what world do you even live in
This is like trying to convince a schizo that Hitler isn't his next-door neighbor

So you're literally saying we shouldn't revere or award natural talent in the absence of hard work? Please fucking kill yourself commie scum

>wanting to fund the things that produce good media
>wanting to fund pretty things (apparently) and produce things at whatever quality
One sounds more similar to unsustainable communism than the other.

>read a couple of books
Again, reading a book isn't fucking hard, mate. That it's a bragging point for you is the trick, here.

>Cause less than 0.01% of the population even tries to be one

If it's so fucking easy and convenient as you claim, everybody would be doing it. It's not, because you're a fucking retard and know nothing about the shit you're talking about.

Heh. Replace seiyuu with business owner and he sounds remarkably like Bernie Sanders.

>That it's a bragging point for you is the trick, here.
A+ deflection, but you know exactly what he means.

>I know exactly what produces good media.
Yes, Chairman Mao.

>Again, reading a book isn't fucking hard, mate. That it's a bragging point for you is the trick, here.
Looks like you need to read a couple more books, because your reading comprehension is worth shit. No wonder you don't understand Kubrick.

People are rewarded based on the value they produce under capitalism, mate. Most people don't watch movies for the CGI or the cinematography. Actors generate the most revenue, so actors receive the most money. Anything else is advocating for commie trash.

If you want to talk about deflection how about the fact that he's never actually addressed what I've said about the industry but instead has gone on a terminology tangent? Sounds like a pretty solid swerve away from actually facing the criticisms against the over-emphasis of actors and VA.
With a star pupil like that, I'll just take a B, teach.

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this thread is the best

>pre cum
what used to be there, my man

Based on perceived value, actually. Small point of difference but in a discussion about quality of products it's an important one.
Let's not divert though. My A+ has already been stripped to a B. If someone manages to wrangle discussion onto economics, well, I might even fail this class.

Fucking dumb ass nigger, I work in the cinema industry, I have friends that are actors, I know plenty of actors and been on plenty of premiers after parties, I haven't met a single actor that actually has a routine/exercises plan that isn't a full time theater actor.

I'm saying the opposite you god damn retard, learn to fucking read. Actual talent gets paid well, cause actual talent deserves it. Random basic bitch capable of kawai voice gets paid 150 bucks a session. Fits her, stop whining.

You can't even understand the argument or the points being addressed. Few people have attractive voices, that's why few people voice act. Out of that few, only very few actually hone their skills and have really special voices and become really good at it. Those people will generally succeed, one way or another. Most actors that work for pennies are like youtube mediocre singers that do mediocre covers of songs, they're either not talented or don't practice.