Why is Eastern Europe so worthless compared to Western Europe...

Why is Eastern Europe so worthless compared to Western Europe? I mean other than Russia it all was historically insignificant.
But even Russia is pathetic compared to Western Europe, it didn't achieve anything other than expanding into a bunch of worthless land.
>inb4 MUH SPACE MUH ROCKETS MUH USSR
You do realize that USSR was an anglo/american crypto-colony, right? They were getting all the tech and equipment from them. And USSR's industrialization was made mostly by American companies.

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Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Bohemia and Bulgaria weren't historically insignificant unless you don't know shit about history

Communism, ottomans, and Russia.
These 3 overtly fucked over anything meaningful or important within Eastern Europe.

Because of multiple factors. The east will always be shit.

this,OP only counted post ww2

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Having no reasonable sea access greatly damages (-ed) your economy.

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I fear your map is a bit outdated my friend... especially around the black sea area

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Not when the north and west is as niggerfied as America and half the whites have converted to Islam

Eastern Europe saved Europe's ass when they needed it against the Turks. Also Eastern Europe didn't have any colonies too leech their wealth

newfag raus

>a fucking hohol
Ok, pal, we got it, you want euro gibs.
But have you tried DOING ACTUAL WORK instead of making revolutions every couple of years and blaming literally everyone else for your problems?

Moldova is rightly Romanian clay

>dried shit looks better than a steaming fresh one
East Europe looks good only in comparison, it is still shit, always has been, and always will be.

communism dumb beaver.

They were compared to Western Europe.

we may not be releveant now, but a thousand years ago we were pretty big deal

>Also Eastern Europe didn't have any colonies too leech their wealth
THIS

I'm not a hohol though.

Today, the problem is corruption and brain drain.

Communism is a Western invention to keep other countries down. So again West shows its superiority.

It's insignificant because of Russia

>it didn't achieve anything other than expanding into a bunch of worthless land.
Bad bait.
Pic related, this list doesn't even include top tier writers or other artists. Also doesn't include many mathematicians and other scientists.

To answer your question very briefly without any dumb memes.

>bad geography, easy to invade, next to foreigners, and did not inherit western roman culture or trade routes

>Mongols, Muslims, Turks, and Communism. For the past 1000 years the region has been constantly destabilised and in war, either with foreign powers or with itself after foreign powers were defeated and a power vacuum opened up. Meanwhile Western European countries were relatively established and stable for that same 1000 year period

The real question is why hasn't Ukraine achieved anything, since Kievan Rus.

Not hard

>Communism
Thank the jews for that one.

Baltics post-WW2*

Russian Physists and Mathematicians are Top Tier, SO Fuck off Ukrainian Rape kid of Tartars

Because our average IQ is about 20 points below the West. Source: experience

>Why is Eastern Europe so worthless compared to Western Europe? I mean other than Russia it all was historically insignificant.

>Historically insignificant.
The shot heard round the world.
Historically insignificant.

>countries getting destroyed at least 2 times per century
>GEE WHY ARE THEY SHIT?

Because most of the time they spend money on military and military-related stuff, while ordinary peasant is sucking dics. Eastern Europe was under mongols too fucking long and it 2 centuries behind The West. During communism Stalin tried to rush development (industrialization, forced education for everyone known as "likbez", gulags for useles neets), but it only made people buttmad.

Eastern Europe will be shit forever.

Eastern Europeans are less sophisticated than Western and Northern Europeans.

Geographically, Eastern Europe is less strategic than WE; no access to the Sea.

Much smaller ethnic groups live there.

The Germans and House of Habsburg were constantly fucking with Eastern Europe and held power over the small ethnic groups.

The Russians were also always fucking with other EE countries since they had the numbers.

The Mongol Horde significantly weakened these states. Not even Western European nations could've resisted them, but they held a much more strategic position and eventually they drove them off, but only after they plundered most of Eastern Europe.

Then came the Ottomans. Again, they had the numbers. Muslims had way more children than even Christians. They greatly outnumbered the already weakened Eastern Europe. Could have England resist the full force of the Ottomans head on? Not by themselves.

Later, they didn't have access to the sea during the age of colonialism, so they couldn't start colonising like other countries did. Even Portugal was able to carve out a pretty sweet Empire for themselves despite having a relative small population in comparisson to the likes of France, Britain and Spain.

Then WW1 and WW2 were extra hard on EE. Then of course came Communism.

So a lot of it has to do with circumstance.
It's sad really.

>Why is Eastern Europe so worthless
you never watched porn?

Easter Europe was shit long before commies, m8. Actually, commies made a great leap in development of those countries with a price of many lives.

So why couldn't they resist any of these threats? Yeah, because they are weak and pathetic.
It's like niggers saying wypipo ruined Africa.

>Russian Physists and Mathematicians are Top Tier
They are all Jews, you realize that?

Most of the list was invented by Jews. Hello?

What is the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
What is Bohemia?
What is the Austria-Hungarian Empire?
What is the Bulgarian Empire?
What is Prussia?

>Most
No.

Failed states.

>The Russians were also always fucking with other EE countries since they had the numbers.
Care to name some besides Commonwealth?
>inb4 Bulgaria

You also failed to address my argument, like everyone always does in these threads.
Quoted below for you again. Good luck.


>bad geography, easy to invade, next to foreigners, and did not inherit western roman culture or trade routes

>Mongols, Muslims, Turks, and Communism. For the past 1000 years the region has been constantly destabilised and in war, either with foreign powers or with itself after foreign powers were defeated and a power vacuum opened up. Meanwhile Western European countries were relatively established and stable for that same 1000 year period

>are less sophisticated than Western and Northern Europeans
kek

so what are those sophisticated things that Western and Northern Europeans came up with?

Genetic inferiority. Slavs were on the Nazi shitlist for a reason: UNTERMENCH

Except they did resist the threats, that's why they still exist today and don't belong to foreign hordes..
Secondly, no army in the world could have stopped the mongol invasion at that time.

ww2 germanys industiralization was done by american companies as well :)

Because you're between Germany and Russia.

Struggle makes people stronger... Not in case of slavs because they are inferior.

Then they got BTFO by slavs, it's almost like Hitler's meme views did not correspond to reality.
Pic related is what happened to your master race.

If you wanna be that way:
What is the Russian Empire?
What is the Soviet Union?
What is the Russian Republic?

I was clearly trying to show OP that eastern Europe isn't historically insignificant

Hitler was BFTO by Americans and Brits.

they are either catholic or orthodox. Protestant culture is superior and dominate in every aspect

Either make some actual arguments instead of meaningless meme sound bites or I'm not responding to you again.

Failed states.

>What is the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
A pathetic dysfunctional and failed state.
>What is the Austria-Hungarian Empire?
Austrian Empire in its decline?
>What is the Bulgarian Empire?
Insignificant state.
>What is Prussia?
A Western state. It being geographically in Eastern Europe doesn't change the fact that it was founded by Germanic Western Euros.
I can give a pass to Bohemia though.

Like America's drive through states but with Tanks

Get rekt.

It's almost as if it took the majority of the world's nations to gang up on one small country! Who would've guessed!

Thats because the brits and the americans sent a shitload of supply and weapons, acounting for 30% of soviet union warmachine. Without it they would have been destroyed.

Americans and Brits hardly did anything, Hitler had Britain defeated and America entered the war after Germany already got annihilated at Stalingrad and other key battles. The majority of German loses were all on the eastern front, and by majority I mean like 70-80%. You've drank too much vodka, Ivan. Time to go to sleep.

>tfw ubermench got rekt by kikes and drunk dirty gopniks

cry more, naziboo

Prove it.

All those Africans resisted to some degree, too... And they also still exist. But they are still pathetic losers.

I agree, it's mostly due to geography.

Well, Eastern Europe definitely had struggles. But one of the biggest problem they had was not having the right attitude most of the time and instead focused on waging war against each-other. Look at Sup Forums for example. You can't have a discussion without old grudges coming up.

Let's face it, EE could've resisted a lot of these if they were more sophisticated like Western Europeans. That's not an insult, I'm just saying that EEuropeans are also to blame for failures.

I've wrecked you and this entire thread with 2 posts. Not one actual argument in response.

USSR was supplied by USA. Without them USSR would be crushed.

when you are 1/64th german so you are an ubermensch but cant even spell it properly because your parents are related.

This is basically it, more in depth post of what I said earlier.

Looking at the results years later, Hitler was 100% correct about everything. He said Slavs are so stupid, they need a leader to slave under. What is Putin? ahahaha

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>Without them USSR would be crushed.
Prove it.
Other ally countries were also supplied by the U.S.A and got crushed.

And what was Hitler?
Putin on Steroids leading Germans like sheep.

Poland? Poland is the reason why everything from skopje to pressburg doesnt speak turkish today.

>if they were more sophisticated like Western Europeans
but what does that mean? What is sophisticated about Western Europe? English civil war? Thirty Years War? French Revolution? Regicides?

>gyros bants

Be quiet you literal shitskin. Spelling, punctuation, and grammar, are all low blows....like your mother last week

>I mean other than Russia it all was historically insignificant.
The answer is in your country's name, Okraina.
This is the border region that got continuously raided by outside forces, since it's geographically exposed to ground invasions. Western Europe is shielded by the Atlantic and Mare Nostrum.

OP talked like an American because he singled out Russia and it wasn't a big player until 18th century which is as far as they go in history. Everything before that is complete prehistory to them.

Oh stfu you eternal rapist of the earth, what we're dealing with now is the direct result of you anglos fucking up everything. You kike bitch.

lack of sea access, constantly exposed to asian nomad shits and their evil ways, etc.

>>What is the Bulgarian Empire?
>Insignificant state.

So like Italy is insignificant compared to Roman Empire times then?
Hint - you use our alphabet, same as the west uses the Latin(Italy's) alphabet.

>You've drank too much vodka, Ivan.
It's our Jewish shitposter, he admitted being a Jew many times

everything OP stated is true, there's nothing here, and it's full

Holy shit, what is that picture?! That looks terrible. America has blacks, Britain has Muslims and Hungary has gypsies. Why do minorities always have to ruin everything?!

Look just how much just the brits supplied them.
Also note the huge amount of engines suplied by allies.

Between June 1941 and May 1945, Britain delivered to the USSR:

3,000+ Hurricanes
4,000+ other aircraft
27 naval vessels
5,218 tanks (including 1,380 Valentines from Canada)
5,000+ anti-tank guns
4,020 ambulances and trucks
323 machinery trucks
1,212 Universal Carriers and Loyd Carriers (with another 1,348 from Canada )
1,721 motorcycles
£1.15bn worth of aircraft engines
1,474 radar sets
4,338 radio sets
600 naval radar and sonar sets
Hundreds of naval guns
15 million pairs of boots

Here comes the self hating pole, like a clock

Marcel is as cute as he is inaccurate

>Urine
>talking about relevance and worth
jej

how is this self-hate you idiot? Those are pure facts

Your pic of deliveries by year is a good illustration.
In 1941-1942 only 15% and we talk about deliveries into ports, not to fronts. And axis were done in 1941-42, and even if you retarded and consider Kursk is turning point, even then it would be fair to say that lend lease didn't have much effect on the fronts up untill mid-43s.

After 43s - yep, and it was fairly big effect, 10 Stalin blows wouldn't be that impressive as they were without it, but it just a question of how long it would take, Glantz was estimating effect of LL to be 12-18 months to the duration of war, sounds fair enough.

But duration only, not outcome.

>The Red Army used extensive quantities of Lend-Lease tanks and other armoured vehicles from the USA, Great Britain and Canada. A total of 22,800 armoured vehicles were supplied to the Red Army during the war, of which 1,981 were lost at sea on the one or other dangerous Arctic convoy .
In total, Lend Lease armoured vehicles amounted to about 20 per cent of the total number of armoured vehicles manufactured by Russia in WW2. These shipments were the equivalent of 16 per cent of Soviet tank production, 12 per cent of self-propelled gun production, and all of Soviet armoured troop transporter production, because the Soviet Union did not produce armored troop carriers during the war.
Read more at ww2-weapons.com/lend-lease-tanks-and-aircrafts

This was just the finished goods, the allies also suplied a huge amount of ressources used by russians to make tanks and all sorts of weapons.

>shitskin.
ironic

>waging war against each-other
Actually they were waging wars against Ottoman only that Western Europe could without disturbance build colonies.

>all key battles on Eastern front were in 1941-1942 (battle for Moscow, battle for Stalingrad, Volokolamsk, Rzhev, etc.)
>16% of supplies

>start winning and steamrolling germans
>84%

gypsies have been in europe for 1000 years and still can't be integrated, they're the worst of the bunch

>Let's face it, EE could've resisted a lot of these if they were more sophisticated like Western Europeans. That's not an insult, I'm just saying that EEuropeans are also to blame for failures.

You're missing a key point, many of the wars that occurred between them would never have happened without Turks and Mongols didn't destroy or weaken the power structure completely.

Take the Mongol invasion for example.

1) Kievan Rus is one of the most advanced places outside of Rome

2) Mongols come, destroy everything. No army could beat them at this time. The leaders of Rus flew to related provinces in the north east, which later become relevant, like the Duchy of Moscow.

3) Mongols rule over the vassal lands, taking tribute and directing resources towards themselves.

4) Mongols have leadership disputes and Lithuanians come to power, annex mongol vassals, and beat Mongols is several key battles, pushing them all the way to Crimea. Lithuania owns all of previous Kievan Rus territory and more at this point.

5) North eastern Slavs regain power with the weakening of the Mongols, the loss of Kievan Rus is still very fresh in their mind, and most of the people in the land occupied by Lithuania identity more with these north east slavs in the form of the Duchy of Moscow.

6) War ensues between them both, with slavs having greater number, Lithuanians are pushed back after around 50 years of war. Eventually a Lithuanian kign becomes the king of Poland and the two countries begin to fight Russians.

This reset of the power structure fucked everything over immensely, on top of that, Turks and other Muslims also came into the scene. In addition to Western powers later on.

There is no equivalent geopolitical situation in the West.