Why are Nordids so easily brainwashed?

Anybody have a good answer for this seemingly innate trait? If SwissBro is here, then I'd love to here your opinion...

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Have you seen your own country?

Too much empathy
T. Swedish American
I have to constantly remind myself to stop being such a faggot sometimes

Like look at this faggot posting anime when this is a future nazi spaceposting board. Weeboos get the rope

Nowhere near as bad as Swedes mate, in terms of % of the population that is "based"
Is it really about that though? This Swiss guy I was talking to on pol the other day said it was to do with Swedes having a God complex, and trying to prove this in terms of moral superiority by always acting in defence of the weak. One thing of interest is this is practically the opposite of the Nordic will to power that the Nazis based a lot of their Nordicism around.

But it doesn't answer everything. In general, Swedes seem to be more easily brainwashed - empathy or not. Why is this?

Here's what I was referring to btw, that Swiss guy had interesting ideas

probably need empathy and agree with the group to survive cold weather

>SwissBro
Don't even talk to that retard. He's an Albanian who think Arabs and Indians are white.

Except Nordids didn't evolve in arctic conditions. Nordids are mostly a depigmented form of Mediterranid.
Really? Sauce...

That would make sense in all seriousness.

I agree with the God complex thing (check out that thread I linked to btw!), but still - why are Swedes effeminate, have a complete lack of cunning (or in other words, excess of innocence), and are so so easily brainwashed? I mean, for example, if Sweden had settled America rather than Britain, to me, there's no way there would have been a war for independence. They would have just been good citizens. Nordids seem hypercivilised by nature, yet 1,000 years ago they were relatively uncivilised. It's all so confusing to me...

Nordic peoples have a genetic predisposition to excessive levels of empathy and guilt, and lower levels of tribalism.

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unz.com/pfrost/fall-of-blood-lust-and-rise-of-empathy/

>practically the opposite of the Nordic will to power that the Nazis based a lot of their Nordicism around.
the reddest of pills
The German people, that is the central European people, are everything Nordics should have been or at least the Nazis wanted them to be.
Germans have always fought each other and mixed with each other, they are a mix of Balts, Slavs, Nordics, Celts, and Meds. They have supreme autism, but always manage to come out on top of everyone.
if only they weren't ugly.

>yet 1,000 years ago they were relatively uncivilised
lies to instill white guilt

Another thing too - if I compare, in my mind, a Brit and a Swede, one other difference would be Brits are far more extroverted (even though there is still the quiet, queueing English type). Think banter, lad culture etc. Swedes are much quieter, and a bit autistic in their thinking desu. I'm starting to think this proclivity to meekness, whatever the inherent cause (e.g. femininity, or lack of cunning, or whatever etc.), is the underlying issue. Yet, a common Nordic stereotype is stubbornness, and this implies strong will power. Yet, does meekness not suggest the opposite? Please, somebody clarify this for me, because I'm having trouble!

It's not meant as an insult, it's mainly because of your out-of-the-way location (for trade routes back in the day etc.)

>survive cold weather
>empathy
Why did they raid each other so often though?
And why did they raid others so often too?
Finns should be the most empathetic since they have been the longest in the cold, genetically speaking.
Nordics are a mix of WHG P.I.E. and N.E.F.
Finns are entirely cold climate paleo-european Finno-Ugric Hunter Gatherer descended.

Way, way, way oversimplified. Almost all Europeans are a WHG, PIE, NEF mix, to varying degrees. Finns are no exception, though at some point they were cucked by some Siberians.

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It's not bait you retard, I'm serious. I just want to understand what's behind an undeniable trend (Nordicness and cuckness (or meekness, to be polite)).

OK, it's mostly the city cucks and those who go to university they become socialist, Marxist or communist. Then you have the working class that are a-political or don't care about niggers or muslims.
So if you want to be away from the citycucks one usually moves into the country or some place where there is a long drive to a grocery store and one usually only has 2 problems Polaks and Christians

But why are you guys so meek, and why are you so easily brainwashed? I just want to understand both of those things, especially contrasting the whole Viking thing.

Three branches will become one

An island will drift away.

A killing bolt will shine in the night but will not kill.

The star will gorge itself on clay.

Idols will speak and move about.

The black flag will fly above the dome.

The belly of the dragon will drip water.

Two voices will call out in a silence that all will hear

A rock will stand on seven hills.

The ravens will starve.

The bear will leave its cave forever.

The rod and the ring will strike.

???

1,000 years ago they were still majority Paleo-European, now they are more Indo-European and Near Eastern Farmer.
If we look at the core genetic groups of Europe, we see the most ingroup and tribalistic peoples being Paleo-European descended.
And the most out-group preference being Indo-European descended.
I suspect it is because Indo-Europeans took slaves and women from other tribes.
While Paleo-Europeans just killed them, some evidence for this would be the Indo-Europeans have many words for slaves and prisoner, the Paleo-Europeans have little to none.

consider Iceland and the Orkneys as my next piece of evidence.
They are more Paleo-European than Scandinavia. They are directly descended from the Norse settlers with a few Celtic thralls, but in the countryside of Iceland and especially in the Orkneys we can see what pure "vikings" would have looked like, they do not resemble Scandinavians entirely because the Paleo-European genes were selected for or they were simply more prevalent and have remained more prevalent.
over the past thousand years there has been a bit of a genetic drift towards more "civilized" traits and the genes that express them. This would mean more Indo-European and Natufian rather than the primitive, tribalistic, and warlike Paleo-European.

governmental brainwashing, sweden has been majority socialist since forever

Picture related

But it is bloody obvious that Nordic meekness and susceptibility to brainwashing is somewhat, to whatever degree, inherent. I just want to figure out why, especially as you guys seem to be stubborn and individual, which would seem to contrast the previous two negatives. Any ideas?

vikings being though and shit is a meme, they were poor, retarded farmers attacking weak villages

>I just want to understand
then take it to the proper board fagget

we conquered your rockhole you dumb fucking faggot, how can you talk as if we are weak? cucked celt fuckhead

well, what is unique is that Scandinavia has Janteloven and you get the silent treatment or get a bunch of rumors if you don't comply to the social norm.
So if you are an outcast in politics you can get the silent treatment from the only friends you have, if you go against the grain you cannot expect any form of help and in the snow if you have a big property(like me) it can take hours to take away most of the snow so you can drive to the grocery store. Some people will spread rumors you are a drug fiend, dead and general defamation on character while everyone is being silent about it.

swedes dont have a culture of warfare, they dont have any cultural gruges or "eternal" enemy, beside this neo russian thingy which really is a meme. Theyre naive because they never experienced hardship

The Swedish cuck meme is based on something y'know...

Great contribution to the thread

They were very tough though, I mean wtf is Ragnarok if not part of a warrior culture.

>attacking weak villages
this is in stark contrast to taking weak villagers and basically handing them your capitol city
>Conquered
>land of the Angles is still called land of the Angles

cultural
we used to be good natured and hospitable, but then politicians used it to further their bullshit and it slowly morphed into stockholm syndrome and idiocracy

Eugenics, swedes throughout history have removed the extremely violent elements of society.

We must purge migrants from our nations.

theguardian.com/uk/2000/sep/03/race.world

"The global centre of gravity is changing. In 1900 Europe had a quarter of the world's population, and three times that of Africa; by 2050 Europe is predicted to have just 7 per cent of the world population, and a third that of Africa. The ageing and declining populations of predominantly white nations have prompted forecasts of - and calls for - more immigration from the young and growing populations of developing nations to make up the shortfall."

Oh, the law of Jante is interesting. This is 100% why a country like Swede has the lowest masculinity score anywhere on the planet on the Hofstede index (4 out of 100 lol).

What part of Nordids, as in what inherent, biological trait, is responsible for the law of jante? This idea that you are not allowed to rise above the masses and become great - it seems in total contrast to Nordicist ideals of greatness, power, strong will, determination etc. But the law of jante isn't a recent phenomenon, I gather. So why did all these Nordicist thinkers see Nietzschean, Homeric values in Nordids, like those in their mythology?

Was Varg somewhat right? Are Nordids so incredibly progressive, that they literally biologically adapted to the meekness of Christianity? I really do doubt it, I mean there's such a tiny chance of that level of natural selection taking place, but why are Nordid personalities in such contrast to like the ideals of Thor, Ragnarok etc.?

>Eugenics, swedes throughout history have removed the extremely violent elements of society.
this is probably the case for all Nordics and most if not all Western Europeans.

>So why did all these Nordicist thinkers see Nietzschean, Homeric values in Nordids, like those in their mythology?
unironically autism.
They needed a racial basis for superiority. Nordics being generally good people with a strong culture and recognizable history fit the bill easily.
Nordids got rid of their strong personalities in favor of their weak ones.
the law of jante would probably have been met with duels and public displays of honorable combat, but their government hasnt allowed such things in over 300 years.

Imagine how nice it would be if everyone on earth was Nordic

No.

Some of them can still rise to the challenge.

i'm not albanian and it's funny you need to hide your flag because you are a spineless coward


It is a god complex thing or rather just a perversion of a superiority complex. Shizothymics (which also exist in warm climates) tend to think inwardly , also emotionally, where they will further develop their ideas and tend to "brain washing themselves" often times. They also tend to be both more empathetic and also psychopathic (which explains why they will get trigger when you offend niggers even though they aren't black themselves). While zyklothymics will work out their emotions in the "real" world, shizothymics work them out inwardly (which is also the reason why shizothymic races will more often be prone to neuroticism).
This counts mostly for nordids (racial type) not nordics as a whole; so the whole SJW ideology that is mostly taught at an early age already (and shizothymics are also easier impressed and formed by ideas) is even more "dangerous" to them.
It's also important to notice that there are many zyklothymics that simply virtue-signal becaues they hope to gain social standing in Scandinavia, but the main ideas and the front line is usually made up of true idealists/fanatics that are almost 100% shizothymics.
And the same people that are idealistic SJWs nowadays, are the same that would have been brain washed into nazi ideology easily (simply by telling them tales about jews for example, which they will then use to brain wash tehemselves, while zyklothimics wouldn't think further about it).

So yea, nordids can be brainwashed, but the brain washing happens mostly by themselves,

Anglos are even bigger cucks than Nordics. Nordics are just conformist. Anglos are the true believers in this shit.

I disagree though, there is definitely SOMETHING to it. The stereotype of Nordids being super stubborn is spot on, for example. But why does morality completely fuck this trait up? Why are they so meek?

Separately, or perhaps related, why are they so easily influenced by social norms? This probably has something to do with being progressive - the selection of progressive traits is only relative to the culture (progressive just means, imo at least, cultural adaptiveness), so this selection would be positive in relation to something like agreeing with the crowd, as like that Norwegian guy said if you went against the grain you would be selected out. I don't see how that explains the meekness thing though, as most of this progressive selection would have taken place when Nordid were pred. part of warrior cultures.

>Nordic peoples have a genetic predisposition to excessive levels of empathy and guilt, and lower levels of tribalism.
I agree, The white race needs to refocus on our tribal groups.
The Polish and Irish in Buffalo NY don't mix, they stay in their own communities and don't give a fuk what the other is doing.

Oh hey. Btw, Skadi is back online, but it's dead af. Lemme just read this paragraph

We aren't, it's you anglos who are. Literally untermensch of Europe.

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Being a cuck (which is a clear degeneration) is 1. only possible if you live in abundance and 2. if you are superior
that's the reason why poor people can never really understand that, because from their view, it's always a sign of weakness to lose or give up resources (women, food etc.) since they have never experienced abundance themselves they also weren't able to gain an abundance mentality (which also has positive sides, such as making you more trustworthy since you are less likely to fuck somebody over in a business deal).

I say, ol chap. Isn't this a tad more fitting?

It's the effects of subversion by govts. It's happening in your country too, Nigel, and mine.

Everyone is taught to desire multiculturalism, that violence is never the answer, all rightwingers in movies and tv are baddies...

And it works. No nation can resist the brainwashing.

>ragnarok
>real
every time vikings met real armies they lost ofcourse, they were mainly traders.

LMFAO, great meme.
unfortunately, it captures reality.

it goes back to the very roots of their culture. I've read one theory that some nations, especially those outside latin influence, were shaped by militaristic structure where loyalty to the warlord was important which could explain total obedience. Then I've also read about the germanic warlord-mage figure which would explain Reformation. All of this would also explain how Nords only lived for great things, like war, while neglecting anything in between, like family life and neighbourly relations, which is why they're autistic

Vikings wanted to be relevant in a changing europe, after charlemagne cut the trade route from pagan frisia they had to do something so they created these trade routes.
I'm not sure why they wanted to settle in britain.

That's an interesting idea - that their inward thinking results in self-brainwashing as they mull over things. But surely it makes more sense that someone who is more external stimuli-dependent (extroverted), rather than the introverted opposite, would be more susceptible to foreign ideas. Idk, I just feel like you're going to be more easily impressed by ideas if you're socially-driven rather than independent and introverted.

So the law of jante is not "new" it's old probably as old as Viking or when the black death hit. So you have to understand that the whole law is a survival guide not to be around trouble to begin with. Don't think you are above the population or the community, don't be a cooky faggot don't think you are better then anyone.
So you are confusing citycucks as being the only thing in scandinavia you have regular towns people they are more openly racist and don't give a shit about Muslims having hurt feelings, they will just fuck around until the weakest moves away.

Sure but 300 years ago it was not public display, it was rather a Norwegian having some few drinks getting so pissed off and then murder someone with and axe or a knife. So no need for public display.

Pseudoscientific rambling - the thread

Never change, Sup Forums. It's not like Sweden has a 1000 year old history out of most we spent being warrior cultists and religious zealots.

Nordids aren't autistic, they just have an emotional filter which makes them seem cold and distant (which they aren't, in reality they are often times the most idealistic and passionate in their ideas, and once they believe something, they become fanatic about it).
There is a very easy test to see if you are shizothymic or zyklothymic: shizothymic people tend not to laugh from obvious jokes (somebody slipping on a banana, or slapstick comedy) and almost always prefer dark humour (verging on cynicism).
The more modern version can also be observed in facebook: shizothymics will almost always put landscapes in their pictures and themselves very small or not at all , while zyklothymics will always have selfies.

You're very very smart man, are there no forums outside of pol that you're active on at all?

Also, Sweden hasn't fought a war in ages and consequently has weak military traditions. The Army is always a conservative force; hence they're balanced towards pacifism and progressivism .

That pic is incorrect. The chick would be enjoying it.

>in reality they are often times the most idealistic and passionate in their ideas, and once they believe something, they become fanatic about it
Yeah but this is what I mean by autism. It's like Nords focus their entire lives on some big abstract collective enterprise while neglecting personal life and civil society. Russians and Germans are identical. I don't know the roots of this, but polish historian of civilizations Feliks Koneczny called this "byzantinism", he claimed that Germanics were shaped by Byzantium with its gnostic, iranian influences and all that sheit

They have something called a "consensus culture" which means people who disagree with thte majority should stfu so their opinion doesnt hurt the cohesiveness of their society. That makes them extremely vulnerable to (((subversion))).

Shizothymics are not less or more external stimuli dependant, they just tend not to carry out their emotions visibily and process them on the inside - this can often lead to a delay obviously (not every shizothymic is smart, or fast).
This however makes them easier to work with and also allows to correct errors - for example zyklothymics get angry very fast and almost explosive , telling them something wrong might get you killed , even if it was just a mistake (where you could correct the mistake with the shizothymic).
Being zyklothimic also has positive sides, for example people that are zyklothymic often times know exactly the right time when to do the right thing.
The main issue with Scandinavia especially, is just that they are extremely rich and their elites brainwashed themselves with marxist-liberalistic ideas.

YOu can debate whether or not this would be possible if they were not shizothymics (pure nordids), but more likely than not, they would also not be as rich. So being extremely wealthy and being a cuck might go hand in hand in this case.

stubborness doesn't necessarily equate to toughness.
Nordids are stubborn true, but the object of their stubborness could be cuckery.
For instance it's ridiculously difficult to convince any liberal American that African slaves were better off in slavery than they would have been in Africa then or now.
Even with all the evidence in the world they refuse to accept it because they are stubborn.
These same people would rather lose whatever they have to lose than to fight for it.

>So no need for public display.
I meant in duels.
I had more of the Icelandic Althing type of thing in mind.
Where one would duel someone and the whole region would be present to witness someone defending their honor and upholding their reputation.
I mean for taking on people who attack your reputation, for giving some shitter a beat down.

Yeah I agree, imo this is a by-product of hyperselection for progressive traits (physical and mental)

I disagree, if you're more often happy being alone then you're clearly less external stimuli dependant. I agree with this emotional filter aspect though.

not so fast sven, i've been watching your peoples psychology lectures for /sweg/ and western front, to learn more about you. something terrible has been wedging its way into your society for the last 30 years or so from what i've seen, and in the last 10 its gotten fucking bad. i just want you to make sweden lagom again. get fucking angry, this fight can only be won by mad men. we beat hillary because we truly believed she was ragnarok.

No, the only good forum was thiazi, which was shut down by the german police in 2011... all the others are infested by idiots (also in the moderatorship) unfortunately.

Another important part about shizothymics , is that because they don't carry out their emotions visibly, they are able to create intricate plans - they are the only type of people that can actively plan into the future while at the same time not hiding their cards.
This is what makes them so important for every high culture, since your enemies can't tell what you are feeling, they also don't know what you are planning - this coupled with tendency to fanatism and idealism makes them into perfect leaders (in the modern world).
Zyklothmymics will often have ideas, which either meet too much resistance from outside (which forces them to give them up) or they will outright get played by shizothymics (who can easily read them due to their nature).

*hiding their cards (not not hiding)

Nords aren't Aryans. Hitler and his crew got this completely wrong.
It's really simple: if Nords were Aryan then they would act like it. But they don't. It's not in their blood. It's not in their nature.
I have nothing against them, they are a decent race, but they aren't Aryan in the slightest.

Well there's no such thing as an "Aryan" race. It's pseudoscience. All European people are genetically close to each other with obvious differences existing the further apart they live.

yes, but it was a private matter to get the honor back. So it was not a huge crowd from a province but rather the bar that watched the 2 dudes beating eachother or one of them killing the other one with an axe.
And when the law came, they had to get killed by the Danish government so you had the most brutal dudes getting killed, by the executioner and that lasted a long time.

lmao, right and blacks are humans, we're all equal. my fucking sides user, stop please. hang on, gotta tell my brother we dont exist. my fucking pale blues are watering.

Okay, I guess I agree with all of that. One thing I see as a negative, is while strong willpower (implied in fanaticism) is a positive, there seems to be a paucity of actual introspection and evaluation of ideas (as if that were the case, you would basically be unsusceptible to brainwashing). This perhaps also explains the lack of Nordid thinkers. Perhaps we could genetically engineer a strain of Nordids to have their current progressiveness, but to increase their ability to analyse and evaluate ideas openly, and give Uncle Adolf a postmortem wet dream :D

Nonsense.
The word Aryan was invented to describe a very specific race that probably no longer exists. Only through a historical mistake did this label get applied to those who deserve it the least.
I'll say it again, if Nords were Aryan then they would act like it.

When Jews say that there is no such thing as the Jewish race you tell them that they are speaking nonsense. You can tell a Jew by how they act. The same is true for Aryans. If they existed then you would know them immediately. Perhaps men like Trump still carry some of the blood.

Unfortunately Trump choose his wives poorly.
I do not feel the Aryan spirit emanating from his children.

Anglos and Jews are unironically the true master race.

they got BTFO in the 30 years war and never recovered, mentally speaking

No Aryan is just another word for Indoeuropean. Back in the early 1900s we lacked the science to genetically classify people properly so we, wrongly, used linguism to do it. Turns out that people who do speak an "Aryan" language like some pooinloo Indians are further apart from other "Aryans" like Germans or Swedes than non-Aryans such as Finns are.

Masters of worldwide consumerism, you'd say the same thing about italians if the reformation never happened

barron is getting redpilled before he touches his first bewb, you think he doesnt see what the system is doing to his father, nobody knows his father like him, he knows this is all bs. imagine learning the fuckers own everything around you before you are 14. i dont call him the fuhrer seed for nothing. hes going to be so fucking honorary.

Italians are objectively superior too. Nordics have something special about them, but it's not the ability to form complex civilizations or rule over others.

Yet nobody would argue Italy today is a more complex or better society than Denmark. Almost as if there's more to humans than your autistic pseudoscientific grouping of people.

I like that you said Denmark instead of Sweden because Sweden is turning in to a third world shit hole as fast as it's browning.

Because all these dominant groups pinned each ethnic group against each other/using religion to bring order out of chaos.
Nordics live too righteously to be that greedy.

well there is a current trend in media for two things: 1. cutified reduced cromagnoids (especially the women) but also more and more the men (for example in the movie valerian lost planet something, the two main actors are basically children from the outside but both well into their twenties) and 2. forcing a zyklothymic nature on everybody
the second trend started in the US , which used to be called "stand up and talk" , it resulted in many first world countrys (also Scandinavia) trying to educate their largely shizothymic population into a more zyklothymic one , forming people that are constantly seeking short bursts of (emotional) external validation but at the same time aren't allowed to truly live out their true nature (shizothymic)
it lead to a huge increase in psychological problems, and we haven't seen the end of it yet (transgenderism is one of the symptoms of this)
overall you aren't wrong, shizothymics need a careful (unbiased) education to make sure they aren't "poisoned"
they are however the most evolved humans (psychologically) and the only ones of truly building high cultures - while purely zyklothymics (as you will find in many african countries as leaders) are impossible to progress with
it's one of the main reasons why african countries in general are so shitty, their leaders are emotionally unpredictable (often times extreme zyklothymics)

Due to the mistake I mentioned earlier, this is unfortunately true. The reality of the situation is that a whole continent mistakenly applied a term which they thought was interesting to themselves because when they looked around they saw no one superior to them, so naturally they thought that the label was theirs to claim.

I have some small hope for him. I hope that he becomes a great man.

Nordics are the only real whites and the superior race on earth. Everyone else is a form of nigger and their opinions are irrelevant.

SAGE

here is a pic btw, both actors look like actual children - the main actor is 29 (!) years old and the woman is 25

eindtijdinbeeld.nl/EiB-Bibliotheek/Boeken/The_New_Totalitarians__Brave_New_Sweden___1980_.pdf

Here you go asshole

here in the us, our ethnic census declares nord and german as separate. because we are, you are our cousins no doubt, and i love good sven, would even fight for him, cant say that about anglos, yet, we're getting there though. our census declares us germanic because aryan is a no no word. no cultural marxist can take my blood away from me with anything less than a blade or bullet. you can keep trying, it wont happen. marxist newspeak will never penetrate my ear holes.

So they can't be a master race. Master race rules over lesser races. Historically and even today, the world is run by Jews and WASPs (eg. Ted Turner) as allies. Hitler thought the Germans were master race, or he could convince the WASPs to join with the Germans instead of the Jews. But he was wrong.

Would somebody redpill me on this. I interpret "Three branches will become one" as the checks and balances in U.S government will become less prevalent. "An island will drift away" is something to do with brexit. "The star will gorge itself on clay" is something to do with expanding Zionism. "the ravens will starve" is there won't be much bloodshed or fighting over the rapid changes happening. What does the rest of it mean?

because they wanted to be farmers?

oh boy

Only a few bloodlines in existence are the masterrace, not any ethnic groups or races.
If the goal is to have dominin over all peoples.
In the bible it also says these wicked people have taken over the world, so you take it as it is.

Not for long, i think people are starting to get what is happening.

youtube.com/watch?v=s3dwmltTD6E

the black flag over the dome. israeli secret intelligence service (isis) flag flies over the dome of the rock, the fall of israel, by israel. in their last great attempt to make greater israel. their endgame, is already over. watching them burn their own people should be entertaining. zion is going to kike the jews, seriously. moving the embassy was the setup for this.