Freeza runs roughshod over assassins from Universe 9!!
Universe 9's God of Destruction Sidra, and Kaioshin Rou, whom Sidra goaded into sending out assassins
A surprise attack on Goku and co! As Freeza rampages, Goku...?!
Goku has come to recruit Freeza as the 10th member for the Tournament of Power! But enemies from Universe 9 set an ambush for the two of them! Faced with an army of assassins, Freeza turns into Golden Freeza and throws his weight around, but?!
Omni-Kings This Week: The Tournament of Power arena is finished! Meanwhile, in the World of Void (site of the Tournament of Power), the fighting arena is finally completed! The present and future Omni-Kings are overjoyed at its quality!!
Okay to make sure that these threads don't turn shit we need to make a few rules.
>First of all no manga Vs anime at this point it's beating a dead horse with how shit the manga is. >Second no Waifufags in these threads it's stupid how we literally don't know anything about them and Waifufags have already shown up fucking shit up. Besides 18 is the superior option anyway >Third no Torkansufags or whatever they are called. >Jobhan fags should also fuck off and stop thinking there boy will do anything other than job. >And finally Buucucks and Cellfriends should stop shitposting about there irrelevant boys not being in the tournament. If people actually wanted them then they would already be a part of it. >Finally stop giving these retarded tripfags (You)s >If we all do that then the threads will improve.
Hudson Moore
What amuses me to no end is how Merged Zamasu the strongest villain in the series so far, had his body destroyed by a handful of starving humans. That's way less than what was needed to defeat Buu.
Mason Jackson
>Zamasu switchs bodies with Goku. >Zamasu (in Goku's body) kills Goku (in Zamasu's body). >Zamasu attacks Trunks' timeline >Trunks backs to the past running away from Zamasu >Trunks' back to the past leads to Zamasu being killed by Beerus, so in the main timeline Goku is saved >Trunks, Goku and Vegeta goes to Trunks' timeline to fight the Zamasu who successfully stole Goku's body in other timeline (which isn't the main one thanks to Trunks time travel) and the Zamasu from Trunks' timeline
>As Freeza rampages, Goku...?! >Freeza turns into Golden Freeza and throws his weight around, but?! This will never not be stupid fucking japs
Brayden Evans
Vegeta and Goku gave their God Ki to Trunks which is >>>Earth population Ki that was used to kill Kid Buu.
Ethan Adams
PADRE
Brandon Myers
Are they destined to end as a couple or at least as rivals like Boruto and Sarada?
Ethan Carter
Dragon Ball Super - TV Ratings for episode 93 1. Sazae - 11.3% 2. Crayon Shit-chan - 8.7% 3. If you don't reply to this - 7.3% 4. Post your mother will die - 7.1% 5. In her sleep tonight!- 6.2% 6. Dragon Ball Super - 5.6% 7. Detective Conan - 5.2% 8. Go! Go! Chuggington - 3.3% 9. Shaun the sheep - 3.0% 10. My Hero Academia - 3.0%
>Ratings increase quite a bit for Frieza and MS. MAXIMUM >BNHA only barely makes it into the top 10 with the best fucking episode of the series and all that glorious animation i'm very conflicted Sup Forums
Aiden Miller
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Colton Butler
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Carter Garcia
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Henry Fisher
>Vegeta and Goku gave their God Ki Nope, they used all their Ki during the fusion, Kaioshin states this, they couldn't even transform into a regular Super Saiyan afterwards.
Hunter Price
Future Zamasu is indisputably SSB tier. However, because of his immortality, he no longer bothers to guard himself from any sort of attack. Thus, much like how Goku can be BTFO by a ring laser, just about any attack will send Zamasu flying.
Owen King
Trunks' Spirit Bomb works differently than Goku's. In the episode, people were giving Trunks their energy without knowingly doing so...and their hands weren't in their proper position.
So...Trunks gathered at least the energy of the Human Resistance + Shin + Gowasu + Base Goku + Base Vegeta + any other living being living in the remote parts of Earth + Nature
Then, SSR Trunks + Borrowed Energy slashed Fusion Zamasu in the chest twice, which he was able to quickly regenerate.
Then instead of slashing his chest, he slashed upwards and cut Fusion Zamasu in half (Vegetto only stabbed)
SSR Trunks + Borrowed Energy just happened to bypass Fusion Zamasu's regeneration with the particular way he slashed him.
Cooper Brooks
God I want to forgot this mess up I hope Goku and Vegeta give Trunks their god power and he defeat Black as a temporal SSG/SSR, or just having Goku performing the spirit bomb and Trunks absorbing it
Evan Torres
Source
Nicholas Miller
Who will defeat Freeza?
Oliver Gomez
>Cherry-picking this hard
Kevin Myers
They've already invoked the yuri fandom.
Julian Kelly
>Thus, much like how Goku can be BTFO by a ring laser, just about any attack will send Zamasu flying.
Not true.
Future Zamasu took on a full-on attack, and brushed it off while having electricity surround him
He explained that it was due to his "true immortality", not his strength
Jayden Richardson
Rivals cause Cauli is freeza's wife
Joseph Taylor
Makes sense, but i hope the manga's version is as simple as:
Noah Walker
>Shin + Gowasu Wrong we don't see any Ki being taken from them.
>Earth + Nature Yeah the same Earth that was cover in natural disasters during the fight with Zamasu.
>Base Goku + Base Vegeta Also Goku and Vegeta give Ki of their own will.
>Trunks' Spirit Bomb works differently than Goku's Ok? How does that make Trunks destroying Merged Zamasu any less ridiculous?
Samuel Martin
Reminder that this is the one true DB canon:
> Jaco the Galactic Patrolman Manga > DB Manga > Yo! Son Goku Returns! Special > BoG Movie > RoF Movie > Champa Arc script > Future Trunks Arc script > Universe Survival Arc script
NOT canon: > Movies other than BoG, RoF > TV Specials and OVAs other than Yo! Son Goku Returns! > Episode of Bardock > Filler > Any differences found between the Champa, Trunks, and U. Survival scripts (such as SSB Kaioken, Planet Potaufeu mini-arc, Mastered SSB, Trunks' healing) > Entirety of DBGT > DB Videogames (other than MAYBE DB Online)
Debatable: > DB Online
Michael King
>Future Zamasu is indisputably SSB tier. This desu.
Jonathan Price
Status on cuckdom BTFO?
Hudson Davis
still not admitting he was wrong
David Brooks
>both Goku and Trunks have free arms >Goku didn't use IT >no one headbutts him
Isaiah Adams
reminder to ignore the faggot that uses this image at all
Caleb Mitchell
VERYSTRANGEdom101 still btfo
Jeremiah Walker
>Japan would rather watch poorly animated bullshit than something that's actually well done
Easton Perry
>Wrong we don't see any Ki being taken from them. Off-screen. It even happened to Android 8, who was very far away, without holding his hands up...so common sense dictates that Shin + Gowasu also gave their energy as well.
> Yeah the same Earth that was cover in natural disasters during the fight with Zamasu. You think Black attacked un-populated rain forests, national parks, etc?
> Also Goku and Vegeta give Ki of their own will Yes they did. They actually knew what was going on.
> Ok? How does that make Trunks destroying Merged Zamasu any less ridiculous?
Read: > Then, SSR Trunks + Borrowed Energy slashed Fusion Zamasu in the chest twice, which he was able to quickly regenerate.
> Then instead of slashing his chest, he slashed upwards and cut Fusion Zamasu in half (Vegetto only stabbed)
> SSR Trunks + Borrowed Energy just happened to bypass Fusion Zamasu's regeneration with the particular way he slashed him.
Parker Lee
>Decide to check out other sites for reactions to the episode >There are still people who don't understand Caulifla and Kale's relationship is basically the female version of delinquent/yakuza "Aniki" type relationship >"B-but they're sister!" Is this the result of mistranslated leaks going wild before the episode even aired?
Nathaniel Moore
But this one's pretty obvious, user...
Zamasu was able to take on a Kamehameha head-on because not only is he immortal, he has regenerative abilities too
Ian Jackson
smugcuck mistranslated them as sisters
Cooper Garcia
God bless smug
Jackson Lewis
>delinquent/yakuza "Aniki" type relationship And what's that?
Luke Perez
The DBS anime is the main product, not the manga:
> The manga is published in V-Jump
V-Jump is a monthly publication, and is Shueisha's multimedia-focused magazine (primarily for video game coverage, but also to help promote their various properties). It's not where their properties LIVE, it's where their properties get PROMOTED. V-Jump has decent circulation, but it's not a primary location that Shueisha publishes manga within. The big one is, obviously enough, Weekly Shonen Jump; that's where Dragon Ball was originally serialized, and it's where all the actual heavy-hitters go. If you're big-time, you're not in V-Jump. You're in V-Jump if you're supplementing or promoting something else. It's for spin-offs and sequels, not main products.
> It's not a stand-alone product in and of itself
The earlier Battle of Gods manga chapters jump all over the place, and though it's a continuing story, for a little bit there it doesn't literally go from the exact same setup/scene to the next appropriate scene on a chapter-by-chapter basis. Once you get past that, you suddenly skip an entire story arc. Unless you understand what the Dragon Ball Super manga is, and can contextually place it among the other stuff going on and being released, it's not the easiest thing in the world to follow. Sure, you can fill in the holes on your own, but an actual story doesn't get written that way when it's supposed to stand on its own.
> We were told it was a "comicalization" from the start
Toyotaro said:
"Getting to see a new DB anime series every week makes me too happy! With this comicalization, I want to make my own small contribution to the excitement, so everyone please check out the manga, too!"
You have to read between the lines there a little bit, but not so much that it's not clear: the manga isn't the main product here.
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Nathan Murphy
>Off-screen. Nice headcanon.
>It even happened to Android 8, who was very far away, without holding his hands up It also didn't happen to Goku and Vegeta who were right next to Trunks.
>You think Black attacked un-populated rain forests, national parks, etc? Pay attention during the fight with Merged Zamasu there were natural disasters everywhere. Episode 65.
>Yes they did. They actually knew what was going on. Ok so then you agree some people did not have their Ki forcefully taken? Good.
>Read: See The point still stands.
Blake King
>MY SAIYAN BACK TINGLES!
Dominic Long
(cont.)
> Conclusion:
Toyotaro's comic seems to, in some ways, be its own independent adaptation of Toriyama's scripts/plot-points. Toyotaro gets to do his own thing from time to time, adding his own flourishes, focusing on certain aspects, and telling the series of events in slightly different ways. At the end of the day though, he and his product are in the position of supporting something else.
Andrew Taylor
probably just retards
Oliver Cruz
>But this one's pretty obvious, user... Apparently not since it went over you head, he's referring to the fact that that Zamasu was able to hold down both SSB Goku and SS2 Trunks at the same thing.
Nolan Anderson
>Nice headcanon. It's literal common senae if you see what happened to the humans and android 8.
> It also didn't happen to Goku and Vegeta who were right next to Trunks. The minute they were shown, they gave their ki. There were ki lights in the background but who knows where they were coming from. Not enough to go by.
> Pay attention during the fight with Merged Zamasu there were natural disasters everywhere Okay. But i doubt Black got destroyed the entire Earth...he mostly focused on places with human population. He had no animosity towards the actual planet itself.
> The point still stands. I literally just explained why Trunks was able to bypass Zamasu's regeneration.
Eli Jackson
Maybe because less things happen in the manga retard
I'm not talking about quality here, i'm just saying that the timeline in the manga is easier because much less things happen.
Jackson Russell
Shitty copy pasta already disproved
DBS's rating is still good when the top 5 is basically ongoing anime since years
The rating will be even higher when the tournament begin
Jacob James
Surprise attacks are a thing too user
Zamasu managed to get Goku/Trunks (who already has been fighting, and don't have immortality+regeneration) by surprise in a lock-hold.
Jack Lopez
Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Old Man Krillin? Let alone defeat him.
Ethan Harris
Zamasu is not for headbutt though
Jose Gray
Toyotaro cares about quality and it shows. The manga isnt perfect but damn the guy tries. Despite being monthly and more of an adaption and skipping a lot of content, he goes in depth and explains things whereas the anime is a ca$$$$hgrab for Toei and theyre not even pretending otherwise. The anime fans know this deep down and trying to drown out the denial with anime tears.
Cameron Fisher
Am I stupid for getting my hopes up for Frieza? Even though it'd be a huge dick move to get everyones hopes up and then go "Nope! Buu woke up LOL" I still feel like this is just a bait and switch.
Perhaps I'm just too jaded by toei fuckery.
Josiah Campbell
Super 17
Owen Johnson
> Discussing what already happened in the anime months ago
What do you guys think Toyo will end the Future Trunks arc?
Fusion Zamasu de-fusing (because apparently he has a limit in the manga), and SS2 Trunks saving the day?
This, Toriyama only check the art in the manga (glad he just check because his art went shit, toyotaro's art is much better).
The plotline is canon while the different shit from both version aren'tn
Lucas Howard
Again nice headcanon, you have no proof that Shin and Gowasu had any Ki taken from them. Trunks even called it the power of HUMANITY and again it didn't happen to Goku and Vegeta who were next time to Trunks.
>The minute they were shown, they gave their ki And? By that time humans who were father away already had their Ki taken.
Again, during the fight with Merged Zamasu there were natural disasters everywhere. Pic related
>I literally just explained why Trunks was able to bypass Zamasu's regeneration. And my point still stands.
Samuel Gonzalez
>Off-screen Nice
Ayden Hall
>He had no animosity towards the actual planet itself.
Dominic Thompson
You seems to be in denial since you can't stop talking about this gif
Grayson Thomas
Or maybe Toei's writing is shit you fucking retarded Toei shill.
Jayden Reyes
>delinquent/yakuza
The boss seems to be asexual but her underling is pretty gay
Nathaniel Ramirez
Well he wanted to burn ningen houses as well, he's not going to punch every single house to make them burn
Henry Brown
>taking personal offense on the fact that Toei's timeline is convoluted as fuck Not only you're wrong about "less things happening" in the manga, but also Toei's site timeline is clearly a complete fucking mess. The manga timeline kept things simple without adding in unnecessary shit, so it looks much cleaner and it avoids a lot of confusion.
Jeremiah Wright
>People ACTUALLY believe the Frieza rumor is real You retards are so fucking gullible. I'm going to mutilate my dick on stream if Frieza is actually going to be part of U7's team, screencap this
Landon Peterson
That and Toyotaro actually goes by Toriyama's notes, and doesn't insert bullshit mary sue type transformations like Super Saiyan Rage.
Gavin Myers
>Again nice headcanon, you have no proof that Shin and Gowasu had any Ki taken from them. And you have no proof that they didn't
I'm only going by Trunks taking energy without people's permission and/or taking energy without them noticing
Literally NO reason why Shin and Gowasu wouldn't give their energy
Kayden Mitchell
You think he draws for free?
Blake Diaz
Fucking lord universe 9 is so JUST tier. They cannot stop their nonstop jobbing to u7.
David Ward
>Surprise attacks What does that have to with Zamasu holding down both Goku and Trunks for a long period of time? If both of them really are stronger than him then they would have been able to break free eventually especially since both their arms are free.
Ethan Flores
>and doesn't insert bullshit mary sue type transformations like Super Saiyan Rage. Yea instead we get amazing shit like this
Hudson Wilson
Or maybe Toei's site timeline is a mess
Levi Harris
> Arguing a headcanon with another headcanon Both are retarded
Tyler Scott
>And you have no proof that they didn't Nah the burden of proof lies with you kid. You're the one claiming Shin and Gowasu had any Ki taken from them.
Adrian Ross
These two pictures are the perfect way to describe the difference between the manga and the anime
Next time someone asks, just show these timelines side by side to explain the difference.
Thomas Edwards
The whole aniki thing is pretty gay if you think about it.
beta male underlings sucking up to some alpha male and calling him "big bro" in hopes of having his protection in case shit ever goes down
Owen Wood
So, to you, toei need to show every single human givingtheir energy?
Asher Jenkins
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Isaiah Walker
>long period of time It was like 10 seconds at most...
William Gomez
Isn't it obvious that he can go SSJ since he has SSR?
Easton Jenkins
It sounds gay to us because of cultural differences though
Bentley Carter
i miss the juice memes
Aiden Perez
>Yea instead we get amazing shit like this Exactly, set up and pay off. Toei should take notes.
Angel James
>As Freeza rampages, Goku...?! No Goku, stop it
Henry Taylor
>It was like 10 seconds at most... I take it you haven't watch the Goku vs Hit fight.
Robert Turner
Dude stop reaching Shin and Gowasu are just two characters, if Toei didn't show them having their Ki being taken than it wasn't taken. Toei fucking reaction shots.
Evidently not, since in the anime base Black was equal to SS2 Goku, didn't use SS, and there's no indication Super Saiyan Rose is just Black's SSGSS.
Oliver Powell
they make the best donuts why else is champa so chubby?
Caleb Hill
This proves Zamasu is a proven success, he increases ratings and sales whenever he appears.
Lucas Barnes
But the anime sells are shit.
Henry Smith
>You're the one claiming Shin and Gowasu had any Ki taken from them. Only due to: > On-screen it was SHOWN that Trunks took ki without asking > On-screen it was SHOWN that you don't need to raise your hands to give ki > Goku/Vegeta, who already know the proper way of giving ki by experience, raised their hands > Trunks can gather ki from unwilling people/androids from the other side of the world > Gowasu and Shin were near Trunks > Gowasu and Shin literally have NO reason to NOT help
Also this: Toei doesn't need to show every little thing, especially after establishing that Trunks can just take ki
Much better than your reasoning: "Shin and Gowasu didn't give their ki (or have their ki taken unknowingly) off-screen just because, even if they had every reason to do so.
Jace Adams
see we also get shit like pic related, which was far better than some dumb purple arm shit >inb4 janemba janemba didn't do pic related either
Elijah Nguyen
The anime ratings were better during the Black arc.
Jayden Torres
I guess they haven't heard that Toshio confirmed the U4 El Rato shit to be false.