Are you guys actual christians who believe in god or do you guys just support Christianity for political reasons and...

Are you guys actual christians who believe in god or do you guys just support Christianity for political reasons and pretend to be Christians but don’t believe in any of the Bible stories and god?

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pretend, because societies were better when people had strong moral and ethical compasses that weren't defined by the state but rather by the culture within the community

Psalm 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Oh my Francis. It would be silly to believe the words of a man who said "Come after me and I will make you the fishers of men". What does that mean? It means make up a bunch of trivial rules and blackmail people into doing your bidding. Back to the Catholic Church. No, user. I refuse to believe that God has the best interests of the people in mind when eating fish on Friday during Lent will send me to Hell, but if I were a priest who molested children, then the punishment is a lifetime worth of prayer.

i cringe everytime so called christians pretend that matthew 10:34 means that christians are allowed to run around murdering people. especially when the sermon on the mount is in the VERY SAME BOOK OF THE BIBLE

Just a preview of what we're in for this thread.

Agreed, but people are searching for the truth behind our reality and that can only be a good thing.

>christfags actually believe they know the will of God cause some random cult of personality leader claiming to be God's son said so

>ethical compasses that weren't defined by the state

The church was literally entwined with the state before the rise of secularism, you're an absolute moron.
Stop just making shit up in your head and assuming that it's true because you like the way that it sounds.

I believe fully and literally in the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed

All kike calves deserve to have their heads crushed at birth, and the mother slaughtered in a kosher manner alongside her heifers being stoned.

its talking about the end times, right now we have to be wise as a sephant but harmless as a dove

but when those nukes hit america, any survivors are going to be pressed like grapes

Isaiah 63:3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

God is a completely indefensible position. You have an imaginary friend.

and christian moral values were dominant in said communities when the religion was still persecuted by Rome

kys

jesus never claimed to be the son of god

My stance as well.

And you have nothing at all.

and the church existed as a separate entity from government long before it was adopted by any state but im sure you'll conveniently ignore that time period and only focus on cath*lic theocracy

>pretend that matthew 10:34 means that christians are allowed to run around murdering people

Christians don't need that verse to justify the claim. Christians can run around murdering people based on the entire concept of forgiveness. Christ died on the cross for you, even if you murdered a bunch of people.

begome

Tip harder faggot

true, but gnostic derailment is too much fun

Fun fact: Christ did not die for everyone's sins.

He took the sins of the WHOLE world.

He dies so that people would follow him in to the grave.

Yes, but he did die for any sins that the Elect might commit.

>in b4 the virgin reprobate vs the chad chosen meme

Peterson more or less opened my eyes to the fact that the West's moral foundation ultimately rests in Christianity and the concept of God. Like Aesop's fables it seems to be a collection of moral lessons told via myth and stories rather than presented literally

Christianity also has historically been Europe's bulwark against foreign invaders, so it's a real shame to see the Church today so infested with leftism (Indeed, you unironically hear shit like "Jesus was a socialist!" all the time) that they do nothing but kowtow to the continued decline of our civilization.

That piece of scripture was meant to say that if following Christ divides a family so be it. He is the sword that causes that divide. It says that pretty much right after that piece of scripture. You have to bear in mind he was speaking to a bunch of Jews, telling them to pretty much abandon their faith.

I go for the community, to meet non-degenerate people my age for friendship and because I think Christianity is the only ideology/group that can be a bullwark against SJWism.

I don't think its anything to feel guilty about, I go there with a open mind if I start believing in Jesus Christ thats great but yeah I go there to rebel against the liberal culture in our society.

I mean why wouldn't you go to church? Its worth it for dating opportunities alone.

Jesus was too nice that's why he died. And now the west is following him to his grave.

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I really don't care about the filioque, but it is actually pretty clear in scripture that both the Father and the Son generate the Spirit

Peterson is not Christian.

Congrats you missed the point

You cannot have an infinite regress of causes so therefore there must be an original uncaused cause. This cause is the progenitor of all others and is therefore God. Now stop asking stupid questions.

No, you missed the point. The Bible is the Word of the literal living God.

I Believe

You sound like me. Funny that.
I don't think you need forgiveness from God.
You are the way you are because of millions of years of causality and genetics shaping who you are and your environment. You know you need to give something back where you have taken, so do it as best you can.
I'm sorry about your friendships, I hope you still have people around you who care. I'm sure you crop up in their thoughts from time to time if it's any consolation. I can't bring myself to reestablish contact in a similar situation, so I can't exactly ask it of you.
You sound like a person who is eminently capable of self-reflection and not a bad person at all, just fallible like everyone else. I think I like you from what I've heard, you oughtn't be so hard on yourself.

You have a place in everything and you're playing your part well, doing everything you were always meant to do. It's all a part of the plan and you don't ever need to worry. I'm sorry if that was no help.

Are you the Brit user I was talking to about guilt in the last thread?

Fuck God
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ye mang

St.Augustine will say that this Spirit proceeds from the Son, but don't you find it interesting that he makes the distinction that it is not in the same way it proceeds from the Father. Theres also this.
>“But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness to me” John 15:26

i heard there's an extension to this argument that shows how it necessitates a conscious, singular, and willful progenitor (therefore narrowing the argument of religion down to deism, Abrahamic religions, and a few others), yet I have never heard that extension
do you know it, or know where I can find a good explanation of it?

I'm agnostic, from a Catholic family. I don't give a shit what people believe as long as it doesn't negatively impact others. I do find that people that go to church are on the whole more pleasant than others. For example, there isn't anything secular that is similar to the Salvation Army. Those guys are awesome, and there's a not insignificant amount of retarded liberals that hate them solely because they're a church. I'm also not religious at all, but I'll go to Christmas mass once a year with family because it makes them happy and I like that. Likewise, I'll eat the stupid wafers and wine at a wedding ceremony. I don't buy into any of that stuff, but if the people are doing good it's good by me.

>You cannot have an infinite regress of causes

But that's wrong. Look up "strange loops" my friend. That seems pretty infinite to me.

Yes, the Spirit proceeds from the Father. It also proceeds from the Son.

>When he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit."

>Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb

>Now he said this about the Spirit, which believers in him were to receive; for as yet there was no Spirit, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

I'm actually a Christian.
I started out as a pagan and was pagan for 2 years until i realized that paganism is just neo-athiesm.
Pagans don't really believe that the pagan gods exist.
It's all just practically larping, and i realized that i was doing the same thing.
I have always ignored Christianity and i tried to push it out of my life for as long as i could remember.
The think that got me into umderstanding Christianity was ironically /pol Christian General Threads.
I bought my first Holy Bible like about 1 year ago after Trump won the presidency.
I started reading it and trying to understand it.
I started getting nightmares of meeting Christ face to face and cowering in fear.
I was getting these nightmares almost daily.
I knew the reason i was cowering was because of the sins i was bearing on my back like a cross.
I started praying for Christ to forgive me for all of sins i have done in the past, for not believing in him and his blood on the cross.
I stopped having these nightmares soon after.
I accepted Christ as my lord and savior and read my bible daily.
I have also tried to research what role the White Race has in the bible.
After months of research, i have discovered that
> Christ was not a jew
> He was a Caucasian Man
> The Adamic Race is the White Race
> Adam means to blush or to turn red in the face in Hebrew
> Hebrew =/= Kike language
> Kikes killed Christ
> Kikes are the children of cain
> Kikes are the children of the serpent
> The White Race is the Lost Tribes of Israel
> Whites have fulfilled all of the prophecies that the lost tribes would fulfill
> The Lost Tribes would expand, multiply, and create great empires and kingdoms worldwide
> They would spread the gospel of Christ worldwide
>They would be a sea-faring people
> They would be persecuted in the last days (anti-white movement happening since 1945)

The Christian Faith is our real faith
We just lost it throughout the ages anons
Even the Buddha predicted the coming of Christ

I don't remember the extension. It's been a while since I took philosophy.

You still need an initial cause.

I really appreciate you taking the time to type all this up for me, and I'm thankful for your kind words. It's something for me to think about for sure. I want to take comfort in the idea that everything is how it's supposed to be but I just can't shake this awful, black feeling that wells up inside me. It's fucked up, but I think in some way I feel I deserve to be punished?

>worshiping a gay kike you got nailed to a plank

>Strange loops may involve self-reference and paradox.
Also this is a logical falsehood in general.

our world being a strange loop means that it must reach an exact replica of a prior state
thermodynamics says that is impossible.
I suppose you could argue a god could break thermodynamics, but you're arguing against god.

It's possible that Adam was white. But still niggers and chicks are still his children as well.

Even Buddha was white (Scythian)
britam.org/buddha.html

What kind of hot mess is that shit you're spewing
That doesn't change the fact that Christ himself says it proceeds from the Father in John. Im open to maybe accepting that it's from the Father through the Son. You still don't address Augustine's distinction.

It's important not lose our identity or to deny salvation to others peoples. God created the nations so it would be easier to find God and thus there is great reason to keep the nations separate and intact.

the eternal niggers here.hey dumb nigger.

Who's saying anything about destroying the nations? That's Satan's plan.

The bible is true, however I am an atheist.

It explains human evolutionary psychology and establishes an objective ethical treatise. The god part is a reinforcement mechanism.

One shall find themselves in hell if he knows not God and Christ. If one deviates from the Word, they know not of God. If one doesn't believe in God, they will adopt a self-serving subjective world view where they establish their priorities, needs and wants above all others. Atheists are incapable of creating a moral society in the abscense of religion.

christian polygenists exist
there's an argument to be made that while adam and eve were the first created people, they were not the first people. Cain had to find a wife after all
the argument against this is that is spits in the face of the idea of universal original sin, which makes no sense if humans had more than one origin

You posted this in the last thread and I still don't understand you? You say that you believe the Bible is true, but then you say you an atheist still? Do you realise that being an atheist will damn you to eternal torment in the lake of fire?

>thus there is great reason to keep the nations separate and intact.
Said nowhere in the Bible.

i think he means he believes in its ethics and that it is an effective conveyor of those ethics, yet he doesn't personally believe in god

I know that feeling and I share your pain, perhaps we came here by choice to feel what we feel. No light without darkness.
Never worry though, really. I promise. Either your in good hands or it doesn't matter anyway.

If you commit adultery, your life will become hell. What is there not to understand? The literal hell is a post 100 AD meme.

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No Jesus is the way. I hope you'll find him. I really do.

>christian polygenists exist
Genesis chapter 1, the very first in the Bible says that God made ONE man and ONE woman.

Where are you from?

christianity is fake gay weak and jewish

i didn't say it was a good argument

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Adamite

"Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death."

I really hate Australian posters idk why. And no I won't "find" him.

A literal interpretation of genesis is simply wrong. Some people believe that though.

>indefensible

God exists from necessity alone.

Beings we would consider God's should actually exist, and not supernaturally.

not sure about that last line i think ethical,moral WHITE societies are and have been created without god and flourished.
however,i think at this point in time churches have done much harm to themselves by trying to lure parishoners back with inclusion of deviants.jezus may have kept whores around him and sinners as friends but catering to trans freaks isnt what i call gods plan.churches could have had a massive impact by helping keep mass immigration from happening and in my eyes,reestablished their legitimacy but jews have thwarted the fifth state fairly effectively.
right now finding jesus under a plank of wood or under a stone is best most can do but politically churches need to reassert power and put out a unified message that govt intrusion and influx of muslim hordes is a really bad idea.

Maybe so. Maybe the pain and guilt are important to who I am. Thanks for talking with me.
Behold, my true flag.

We only bear the consequences of the first or original sin which is death, no it you are a Christian you know that Death was conquered.

Adam was white user
Adam means ruddy, to turn red in the face, to blush.
Why do you think the white race is the most perfect?
Physically that is, we have the perfect facial features, our face is the face that other races want to have.
Also God created other humanoids , Adam was his last creation, the perfect one in his image.
and
>niggers
God literally calls them beasts of the field.

I believe that Jesus is the son of the Unknown God who made His appearance in the NT. I don't believe OT God is the God of Christ but is another God who is benevolent but imperfect. I also believe He (Yaweh) is indifferent to human suffering.

I also believe in some of the Biblical accounts but not all of them, namely the made up Pauline texts, Luke, Matthew, and potentially Revelations. I also believe in some NT Apocrypha.

no

the truth?
I can share it with you if you would like
I was once like you
calling Christian christcucks and all of that
Christ changed me
and he has a purpose for me
I finally know my purpose in life user

> what is the tower of babel
> what is the dispersing of toungues and nations

you're basically a fetus user

>quoting a non-canonical gospel

Valentinus was the only one to get it right.

My King is God.
My God is King.

> no
kek you can't prove me wrong
I have the Holy Bible with me as the only thing that backs up what i'm saying
Look at pic related
Look at the perfection
If God would make any race in his image, he would make the white race, and everyone knows that, even nonwhites.
Caucasians have perfect facial symmetry.
We are the Adamic Race and no one else.
We have fulfilled all of the prophecies that the children of Adam would fulfill.

checked

sorry to hear that, how's Atheism treating Sweden though? And you will face him one day. for better or worse is on you.

>muh serpent seed
Literally kiked Kabbalah mysticism. If you don’t like kikes, drop that bullshit.

i'm catholic not christian. also i'm a girl. there are no guys that want to date a catholic girl who's into anime and post punk. so i'm in a deep hole dating-wise..

>Cain had to find a wife
He also lived for nearly a mellinum. Plenty of time for an adamite descendant to cross his path.

It's built on christians values so not too good desu. How about Australia?

die

Ohhhhhhh you're Jewish not Christian I got it.
I am Christian user
made up bullshit
No you're Christian the church is Catholic(If you're Orthodox :^) )

again, it's not a very good argument, just one that has been made

Or if you wanted specifics, southern Indiana.