With the remarkable progress in genetics, we believe gene therapy will prove to play an increasingly prominent and transformative role in medicine. Gene therapy has the potential to treat and maybe cure monogenic diseases. Most monogenic diseases are ones for which a protein is defective or not being expressed. As such, gene therapy has the potential to address many of these congenital disorders. There is also a broad opportunity to apply gene therapy for acquired diseases as diverse as HIV, heart failure, Alzheimer’s and more.
What is the future of race-based politics if gene manipulation is already a viable option for pre and post natal patients. What is the point in the ethno-state if within 1 or 2 generations from full implementation genetically modified people will be the norm. Most heritable diseases, cancers, and disorders will be completely removed from the bloodlines. Intelligence can be boosted in the womb. Modified people will live longer, be smarter, remain more fit, have less disease, etc.
The technology for all of this already exists.
Soon, despite what race or ethnicity you were born from, the only thing that will matter is if you are modified or not.
Lastly, given the development of this technology and the cost, the first people to receive such treatments will likely be wealthy, mostly white, and American, though undoubtedly the upper class from Europe, the Middle East, and Asia will take part in it as well.
We soon face a future where the super wealthy will modify themselves and their offspring, live longer, and concentrate even more wealth and power given their new longevity and predisposition. What will you do when you're left behind in the masses of third-worlders and underclass non-modified? How will your ethnic based philosophy hold-up under such a transformation?
Aaron Rodriguez
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Julian Flores
we give everyone free gene editing and basically improve the entire world overnight haha
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yeah we'll really just kill each other a bunch and probably permanently scar the planet in the process
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Michael Thomas
There will be no race-based politics in the future.
Eli Gonzalez
If you're unable to afford the modification, would you resist being replaced by modified peoples? Would you accept being placed into what would surely be a nearly inescapable categorization of lower class?
Chase Foster
>It's just pictures of space shit
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Jackson Rodriguez
If the movement towards gene modification is inevitable and already quite feasible, then why is race-based politics an issue now?
What is the point in worrying about race replacement, when modification makes intelligence, longevity, and health ubiquitous to those who can afford it of any race.
Nathaniel Reed
what will you Huwite guys do when gene editing makes it possible to literally change our skin and eye colour to what ever we want? of course this includes white skin and blue eyes
Alexander Walker
Don't forget. It is the gift that keeps on giving. These modifications will be passed down to every subsequent generation.
If say for example, the chinese market opens up on this ignoring most of the ethical hurdles which have slowed down the western development, we may see a future in which asians are more highly modified than whites, and by all genetic consideration more advanced.
Owen Johnson
Rich Indians and Chinamen and such will edit their children's genes to make them whiter and much reeeeeeeing will be had
Adam Ward
We're not talking about color, but intelligence, cognitive capability, the removal of genetic defect, the prevention of disease, and the extension of life. Race wont mean as much if you can exist in a body free of disease that will live to 150 without interference, and with a brain that is far more capable than the non-modified
Owen Thomas
What do you mean replaced? I'm replaced regardless. Everyone dies at some point.
Do you think unmodified people wouldn't have kids or something? Or that modified people won't have kids with unmodified?
And the "inescapable categorization of lower class" is easily remedied with genetic modification - and why wouldn't you give it to everyone when it's giving them higher IQ, healthier lives, more working years, yadda yadda, it'd be in a nations' best interests to have as much of their population getting these treatments as possible; a bunch of useless lower class people drags everyone and everything down. Meanwhile investing in the genetic modification is an investment that will quickly pay itself off
The only ones who'd be against this stuff would be liberals. They glorify being weak useless shitters, it'd agonize them to actually lose that victim status they covet. Probably they would feign inferiority anyways, or create new problems for themselves. It's just the pathology of a liberal to be like that.
Tyler Sullivan
You're probably right. Aesthetic manipulation would be a cheaper form of modification. It isn't unlikely that we would see this sort "editing" spread more quickly than life extension and other health or intelligence modifications. For example, the ability to change the eye color of a child in the womb would likely be a hot seller in such countries.
Unmodified will have kids, but given the concentration of power once the wealthy have even more advantage with life extension and induced intelligence, it is unlikely you're offspring will ever attain anything but a lower class. Generationally speaking, I guess it is possible that your children marry into a modified family line, but I'm sure there will be rigid social stratification as a result of this for many generations.
Anthony Jenkins
there's no such thing as 'more advanced' in genetics just better adaptations to a given environment
evolution doesn't evolve to anywhere other than survival
Kevin Martin
that's a lot of unsubstantiated conjecture
Brayden Morales
I think most people would agree that modifications that prevent diseases, increase cognitive capabilities, and extend life are advanced.
Of course it is, this is applying sociological theory to a future that hasn't happened yet as a thought exercise.
Eli Wright
Its less of a fear of race displacement and more a fear of cultural replacement. However, its not like race doesnt place a big role in it.
Brayden Bailey
Gene modification is the highest form of cuckoldry. If gene modification ever happens, if you just edit one single person to be genetically superior to normal people, you are committing genocide against all human genomes just to raise this man's children. Your entire genome is going to die. Also it's China that is leading genetic modification. If China manages to engineer one superior human, it's over. China is taking over the world and there's nothing you can do about it. Your genes will be destroyed.
Mason Ortiz
Everyone will choose to have light skinned babies
Ayden Gonzalez
They're only good so long as they're increasing the fitness of the species in the given environment.
If the environment changes so that decreased cognitive abilities survive better - say by widespread starvation or something limiting calories that starve your bigger brain - well, those advanced modifications have turned out to be a real downer.
What's even worse is if we end up creating monoculture genetics and end up with a species of clones that are easily wiped out by minute environmental changes.
IMO we really shouldn't fuck around too much with our genetics. Mother nature and women are good enough eugenicists already. Playing with this stuff is playing with fire and we could irreparably damage or even destroy the species.
Isaiah Scott
Well cultures shift and transition over time. Vestiges remain, but as technology advances culture changes radically. Value system replacement is probably more likely the cause of disruption, with race signaling heritage in relation to particular value systems.
This guy gets it. The moment a class of genetically modified, already wealthy superior humans are created, it will be a massive turning point in the social structure of our planet. This coinciding with AI will forever restructure the socio-political field across the globe, with cleavages remaining along 20th century lines of poverty and race-based politics.
Jeremiah Collins
>China is taking over the world and there's nothing you can do about it the eternal yamato must rise again
Luke Lewis
They would be more fit, literally as some of the available modifications already include greater muscle mass, resistance to disease, and the elimination of cancer genes. We're all competitive in this environment, but they would have advantages over the normal population. Even modifications that allow for faster healing could be feasible.
Additionally, environmental change wont play much of a role as we already create artificial environments, and shield ourselves from harsh natural conditions. A group of humans less susceptible to hardship and more intelligent would come out on top in any scenario.
Anthony Wood
A society that has gone to gene-modification phase, we can assume with good certainty that automation level of jobs is closing on 100%. What use are you going to have to your corporate overlords? Gene-modified subjects could pose a threat to the establishment, so gene-editing would likely incorporate submission to authority. Oh and to end the point, so what benefit would the elite have in gene-modificated subjects, unless it's to make them powerful slaves? You don't benefit from making people powerful and free spirits, that makes them a danger to you.
Jack Barnes
You don't get what I'm saying.
Take greater muscle mass for example: that's more calories required to develop and form the body. More calories required to maintain the body.
A high calorie diet is possible in the modern era, but if something changed and agriculture went back to 1800's levels and mass starvation were rampant, you know who's going to have a leg up on survival? the little skinny manlet twig who only needs 500 calories a day
Not the hulking 6'3" muscled aryan who needs 2500+
That's why genetic changes have to be very carefully considered. It's not likely that we're going to massively regress in agricultural output and start starving, but if we did, everyone who needs so much food is going to die. This kind of consideration can be applied to a lot of less obvious situations and genetic traits.
Aiden Rivera
In a modern state I believe you are right. Only an ideologically driven nat-soc state would it be likely the access to modification would be distributed as a greater good.
Within a modern context, it is more likely access to the modification will be restricted to only those who can afford it. This phase will continue, and as the costs go down and become more affordable, more advance treatments and technologies will be released, perpetuating the initial gap and keeping the classes separated through access and finance.
We might expect to see trickle down treatments, such as cancer prevention to save strain on health systems, but more prestigious modifications like life extension or intelligence modification would remain highly restricted to those with social and financial capital.
I get what you're saying. I just think its an odd caveat to the greater point, and pretty insignificant given the context of the modifications. There wont be some massive disparity in resource requirements between the modified and unmodified, and arguably if they are smarter and more capable, in the event of a societal collapse, they'll just enslave us to make food for them. They'll be an apex predator.
Jaxson Collins
Social Democracies would probably make the genetic modifications freely available. At least the IQ and health based enhancements.
Levi Foster
apex predators tend to be massively out-populated by the prey animals
real apex predators in human terms are probably psychopaths getting by disguising themselves as actual humans while behaving like monsters
Lincoln Kelly
My point is that it is rarely the ruling class that starves when food sources are limited. In any scenario, their modifications will give them a social and evolutionary edge over non-modified. It will be more pronounced in modern society, as those who will become modified are already in control of large amounts of resources (social, political and financial capital).
Owen Hall
>In a modern state I believe you are right. Only an ideologically driven nat-soc state would it be likely the access to modification would be distributed as a greater good. That's necessarily true. Look at Fluoride or vaccinations. You assume that modifications would remain expensive, however, you don't know that for sure.
Furthermore, these genetic modifications would still need federal approval from organisations such as the FDA. You're bound to get gene-hackers first that experiment before the rich adopt it in mass. After all, would a wealthy person want to risk their body on something that isn't 100% certain to help them?
Of course, Ted Ted Kaczynski predicted this. Whatever system develop will be ever more authoritarian and controlling than the system we have today.
Perhaps the plebeians would be forced to undergo genetic modification that makes them more docile, submissive and ultimately infertile. The ones who remain then will use genetic engineering for specializing in their specific fields. For instance those who are creative and entertainers may get different modifications to those who build software. Humanity will trend towards a very rigid caste system.
What you call ethno-nationalism may very well change, as this caste system itself may lead to conflict between all the castes.
Isaac Miller
Easy make genetic editing something universal and free inside the nation
By the way everybody over 16 years prefers to be white, if you give the option to a nigger to continue be a nigger or be a white person it will prefer to be a white person.
Chase Jones
The ruling class trends towards being ideological, look at our current progressive and neoliberal ruling classes who seek to socially engineer society to their ideal.
What you should truly fear is a Pol Pot type individual who seeks to create a new race entirely and through force. To throw away the past and march towards something nightmarish and new.
