Either animals are property, and you should be able to do what you want with your property

Either animals are property, and you should be able to do what you want with your property

OR

Animals are sentient and should be able to consent to activities, just as clearly as they can communicate when they like or dislike other things

So then why is bestiality illegal in so many areas?

Is it legal where you live? Should it be/not be?

you just want to post horse porn i get it.

>treating your property badly

No one does this. and for the very small amount who do, their property is taken off them.

>hurr I shouldn't be able to smash my cans and boxes if I want to
OP is right. The only people who are allowed to support gay marriage are vegans.

>Can't smash that horse's box

Heyooooo~!

False dichotomy, should we be able to torture animals as we wish?
Not even referring to bestiality, your preferred (first) option indicates that animals may be tortured to any extent whatsoever.

The reason why animals own more than just property rights is because of tradition and our ability to sympathize with them.

You can, of course, argue that animals should be exempt from consent laws, but your argument has not cleared that up as it should have.

>No one does this. and for the very small amount who do, their property is taken off them.
Give an argument why having intercourse with animals means "using property badly".
Animals have specific bodyparts for sexual interaction, so wouldn't it rather be that not having sex with animals would be not using your property to its fullest extent?

In addition, what is more cruel? Forcing an animal to never receive sexual gratification or providing that yourself?

And yes, I understand the irony of discussing the cruelty of never having sex on Sup Forums.

So not having sex with your animals is bad now...?

Politicians are spineless cunts who peer pressure each other into illegalising things that makes them feel morally superior.

Do that have any intention to enforce the law and watch over potential people who have sex with animals?
No.

It's just symbol politics. Designed to make career politicians feel better about themselves.

Or there is actually general moral disgust by people who are neighbors to the person fucking all of their animals.

And who would ever come out as the politician to say "Let's go easy on that guy who's dog humped his leg and he didn't immediately stop him."

only people who would want this are people who want to fuck horses

Nope. The main argument was our farmland minister felt embarrassed when he met European colleagues.

So he suggested to make it illegal. That was the one argument they put on the table.

Technically speaking, yes.
If we suppose that animals should only be seen as property, it'd be like using a claw hammer without ever extracting any nails with its claw side.
Using the claw side may deteriorate the quality of the hammer altogether, but tools are meant to be replacable, and a claw hammer is not just going to break for having its secondary function used, even for a long time.
It's bad in the sense of having missed an opportunity.

>In addition, what is more cruel? Forcing an animal to never receive sexual gratification or providing that yourself?

An actual argument, though I have never been the owner of a large pet (have only had a hamster, rats and budgies).
I don't see anything wrong with it on the surface, as long as you make sure the animal does not suffer from it.

Why is fucking animals morally wrong? I find it disgusting when I would think of my overweight neighbours breaking a few beds, but morally?

Fucking a horse is a tradition for Celtic kings. As part of coronation, a king would fuck a white mare, symbolizing union with the goddess Epona.

Making this illegal erases white heritage.

>a horse and a hammer are the same thing

Look at the picture I posted and tell me animals are only tools. I’m not going to debate this but it’s a stupid conclusion to group these things together. Have fun.

>>a horse and a hammer are the same thing
I didn't imply this.
You obviously think that animals are more than just property, which I agree to.

What exactly is the problem, then?

It's a shame, I love horses too.

But we are infested with worthless career politicians who makes laws to suit their personal feelings unfortunately.

Honestly, its your animal. You should be able to do what you want with it.

The trouble is, white people have sympathy for animals. So they say, don't hurt your animals needlessly. Sure, you might slaughter them for food, but try to do it in the least painful and quickest way possible.

If you can slaughter an animal for food or just for skinning it, how is it not okay to fuck it if you want? That's the logical fallacy. But again, it's because it involves people emotions, and emotions are never logical.

Why can't there be laws that regulate how you're allowed to treat your property

anyone that's into bestiality is a genetic failure that should be jailed for the sole reason to stop him procreating

No. There is literally nothing wrong with horse pussy.

Because it's immoral, brainlet.

Because it's fucking gross you retard.

Go back into your cuck sheds.

Do not consort with the beasts

A broken leg operation is also gross.

>Dane
>wants to fuck animals

What a shocker

They should be treated humanely, even if livestock. The slaughter method should also be as quick and pain free as possible. We are not barbarians.

Why is it always germans that want to fuck animals?

Why is it always Australians that want to fuck animals?

Isn’t this the faggot who just posted an incest thread?

In animal husbandry, electrodes are used to force a pleasureless orgasm from a stud and then instruments are used to impregnate the mare.

Is that better or worse than providing the animal with an orgasm outside of breeding?

Its the degenerate jew southerner. He justs wants to collect data on how much pol approves certain controversial topic so he can publish his jew article shilling that Sup Forums is a degenerate website with paedos and horsefuckers. Thats /h/ and /mlp/ you jew.

Yes but it's neccessary for having functional humans again. Horsefucking is just gross.

I asked the question first, why is it always german posters that want to fuck an animal?

>either animals are property or they have the same rights as humans

u wot?

I asked the question second, why is it always Australian posters that want to fuck an animal?

Why are you deflecting my question muhammad, i just want to know why muslims are animal fuckers? Why they keep making animal fuckery threads? Why they get so uptight that i called them out being animal fuckers? Shit pull your dick out of that goat so you can think straight geez, when people are grossed out by you fucking animals its not them that's wrong its (you)

Stop fucking animals before you talk to me.

>Doesn't deny he is goat fucker
>telling a well adjusted, fair dinkum, hard yakker to stop doing a degenerate thing that only quintessential germans do

Wow muhammed, you sure showed me your subhuman goatfucking intellect what a shining example you are to the germanic peoples

Why all these horse threads all of a sudden? Is pol now into bestiality?

Stop creating incest threads, you cow-worshipping Kiwi.

>3dpd

The whole idea of personal property is that its yours, you can do what you want to it.

be careful friend, you might attract the attention of the leaf anti-mlp shitposting AI

Because it's fucking degenerate.

Who here /zoo/ ?

Your "black or white" interpretation is causing your autism to show.
You should not try to conflate sentience with intelligence.