Main characters are in love with each other

>main characters are in love with each other
>they never kiss or even confess clearly their feelings in years

WTF is their problem? I feel kinda scammed.

He isnt in love

Shou-chan belongs to Ueno

Ueno didn't even love Shouya.

she sure as shit did

obsession=/=love

Seriously? You mean he would have done everything he did only to find forgiveness?

probably yeah

Anyway I'm really getting tired of this shit. Kino anime/manga about feelings and love without any actual clear expression of it. Really unsatifying in the end.

Are all japanese so inhibited?

in this one it makes some sense as it probably never crossed Izuku's mind Shouko loves him and Shouko can't talk and is too shy to cofess

So I should choose more wisely next time. Watched and read KnK after Makoto Shinkai's works. They're all beautiful but I can't help feeling always a bit frustrated by the endings.

This wasnt a romance series

Isn't Pedro supposed to be mc's mom husband ?

Why did kyoanus change that?

Pedro was always MC's elder sister's husband

No, retard.

stop this kino meme

They held hands.

Are you telling me the manga ends like that shitty ending the movie had? I also felt ripped off after watching it.

Yeah but it's one single frame after 62 chapters, ffs

A little better. Manga>movie but still unsatifying to me.
I wonder if it's still worth looking for a proper and not cringy/not too sappy love story in anime/manga

>kino

This is the kind of person who defend this shit.

the manga has more pointless filler.

Well... the entire manga after the one shot/volume 1 feels like filler.

Both are lame as shit

I'm not really into this meme, just didn't know how to say it otherwise in a simple way. So even if you hate this way to say it maybe you got what I meant

People with good taste?

>Thank you for reading

Fucking raged

>thank you for reading

you fucking piece of shit

Hope all your series will be get the axe

Love it when shipperfags get BTFO like that. Must be pretty exhausting having the need to see their fantasies validated everytime there's a relationship of sorts going on in any story.

If you're not retarded you can easily understand why them holding hands is a lot more powerful and meaningful than a generic kiss on the lips.

Hey, it's that retarded shipper again who's utterly puzzled at something not playing like some Disney piece of shit.

Haganai remains the holy grail with Bleach being an interesting case as well.

Not a shipper (not even an anime fanatic), but whatever, I see it's not possible to discuss with you edgy faggots. Bye

The bridge thing was pretty Disney.

>i'm so need of human contact that touching a hand is the equivalent of sex for me

Nice try. Specially in a series when the guy never express any feeling for the girl.

What's the difference?

it was pretty anime

Yeah, that pissed all of us off.

It's pretentiousness. A lot of authors think that it's deeper and more meaningful to have ambiguous endings, rather than openly happy ones. It's gotten to the point where it's more cliche for characters to not get together than the opposite.

This was a series about reconciliation and finding a reason to live, with the focus being around a boy and a girl. The girl was in love with the boy, and it would have been extremely appropriate for them to get together.

The manga's ending was worse than the movie, because it just kept going on and on pointlessly, without anything meaningful happening.

>HURR DURR SHIPERS XDDD
Fuck off, faggot. When a series introduces romantic feelings, it's not "shipping".

>that pissed all of us off
>all of us
>It's pretentiousness
>When a series introduces romantic feelings, it's not "shipping"

i think thats happening more often than confessions in rl

I actually wouldn't be surprised if the romance angle was forced in by editors. The confession with the moon bit are so completely at odds with the rest of it, and are never really addressed or rear their heads again, that it jars the whole piece and leads people into expecting this to be a romance, when it's not.

Add in that the movie fucks up so much of the characterisation while keeping the fairly shitty plot mainly intact, and the whole thing rings hollow. The manga ends better -- though it took me a second read through to get that, cause I was still butthurt about the lack of romantic conclusion the first time round.

>the moon bit are so completely at odds with the rest of it
It felt even more so in the movie.

What does Shoko sound like during sex?

>There are people on Sup Forums that believe this isn't a romance

A fire truck.

>the story about something else entirely has to have a clear and resolute romantic conclusion
Plotfags are so delusional

you are retarded, she fucking confessed to him half in the movie.
And then they left their relationship out there like this. If that was they way they wanted to do it, why even introduce romance between them in the first place?

l-lewd

Fucking hell hanagai made me mad

There was a clear point for the confession scene in the movie. It was characterization for both Shouko and Ishida. Shouko literally tries to be normal, to the point where its really fucking awkward. It indicates how Shouko hates herself for her condition and believes people will like her more if she was normal.

Ishida, on the other hand, actually understood what Shouko meant. But since Ishida pushes it away immediately, it reinforces the idea that Ishida isn't properly looking at Shouko, but instead created and maintain that convenient image of Shouko and essentially doesn't acknowledge she's her own person with feelings and ideas that contradict his image of her.

Pretty sure Nishimiya attempts to confess her love

Sahara is best girl

You are giving the series too much credit
He just misheard it

user, you're reading too much into your cartoons.
I kind of get your point, but you're overthinking it. The way they both handled the situation gives insight on both of their personalities, but there's clearly an indication that they like each other. You can see it from Ishida's behaviour about her, and the fact Shouko's imouto pretended to be her boyfriend.
Bringing the focus on their individual problems was not a bad move, but if they gave a proper end to what they started it would have been nicer.

>Do these look like the moon to you?
Ishida knows what's up, and he acts pretty distraught about the whole thing. Dude totally knows what's up.

>user, you're reading too much into your cartoons.
You vastly underestimate Yamada. She almost never has a pointless scene in her work. Even in pointless scenes in the source material, she adds characterization to them to make them important, generally through body language.

And besides, they DID finish it. The whole bridge scene in the night made it very, very obvious they were going to be together for a long time. A straight up confession or kiss isn't needed to resolve a romance.

Literally nothing wrong with this ending. The only people complaining are those who need everything to have a perfect book end with a wedding and kids.

Oh come on, he's been shown to be naive the entire movie, but in that scene he knows what's up?
stop deluding yourself only because it's a movie from your favorite author

Supporting this user. Honestly, an 'I want you to help me to live' after dealing with suicide, has much more meaning, weight, and relevance, than an 'I like you'.

>naive
You literally misunderstood the entire basis of Ishida's character. What do you think the X's were for? He isn't naive at all, he just doesn't look at other people's faces. He refuses to directly confront others because he's scared of others. He closes himself off and pushes others away. It was literally what the ENTIRE movie was about. That's why it ended with the X's falling off.

what do the Xs this has to do with being naive?
stop trying to pull shit out of nowhere to try and justify your overcomplicated understanding of the movie

For people who use sign language, holding hands is basically kissing anyway, if you think about it.

I still hated how in the very end, Ishida was still obsessing over those damn garden pins when Nishiyima was moving places.

Nothing, I'm saying that he isn't naive, it's just that he doesn't acknowledge others and pushes them away, portrayed by the X's.
I'm saying he does know exactly what's going on, but it interferes with his convenient, selfish image of Shouko so he chooses to ignore it. Same thing happens when Shouko tells him that Ishida will be happy when he's with her. Instead of acknowledging the problem, he just continues to place her onto a pedestal and devotes himself to his "redemption" which in turn pushes Shouko into suicide.

Seems like you just failed to understand the movie.

maximum expression of love

ALPHA AS FUCK

>a single hearing aid costs 1000-8000$

holy shit ishida is literally a monster

This is a very nice ending though.

>he just continues to place her onto a pedestal and devotes himself to his "redemption" which in turn pushes Shouko into suicide.
And I'm the one that has failed to understand the movie, sasuga user.

>he just continues to place her onto a pedestal and devotes himself to his "redemption" which in turn pushes Shouko into suicide.
Yeah, no. Shouko committed suicide because she's rationalised the break up of the group as being her fault, not because Ishida was devoting himself to his redemption -- if anything, he spends more time angsting over whether or not he deserves a redemption, or if he's just "faking being friends" or the like because he's just as much a ball of self-loathing.

He was confused about what she said because there was no way Shouko could possibly mean that she liked the asshole who bullied her and ruined her life.

So she must have been saying tsuki.

>y-you're wrong!
Good rebuttal :^)

Yeah she rationalized it has her fault, but its part of a much larger issue where she blames everything on herself. She internalized all of Shouya's suffering onto herself. When he kept pushing himself into this role he made for himself it hurt Shouka more and more. The bridge scene was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Every time Shouko asks what happened after Shouya shows a troubled face and he responds with nothing, she makes a very discernible sad face.

Sounds like you need to become a VN masterrace, no matter how retarded the MC is he always end up fucking the girls.