This leaf has very little experience in building, but he's figuring it out. No special education in the area, he read some books developed the skills he needed. His Youtube channel takes you step by step on his journey and he's still at it. I didn't see any ads and so far he hasn't asked for a dime. He just decided this is what he wanted to do. He's on the way to living culturally off the land.
Is this what our young men in the US need to break away from drugs and our pointless post-modern society?
What do you think?
How about the ladies too, you up for this lifestyle?
the Amish are all over the fucking place why do people act like it's some type of big mystery to solve become a fucking Amish dumb fuck
Jackson Powell
or maybe he goes back to his city house and gets internet. yeah prolly lol but either way i wouldn't like living like this with no internet honestly
Jonathan Taylor
Honestly? You are too late and too poor. All this LARPing about living off grid is just that, a game. Have any of you really done your homework and figured out just how many acres you need to support you, your loved ones and all the livestock?
Here is another clue: Governments are not going to let you squat. You might think the answer is to buy a cheap piece of land, but how are you going to pay the tax on it each year? How are you going to overcome rural regulations surrounding a Certificate of Occupancy.
Ahhh, you say, I will live beyond the municipality. Right. Try living a hundred miles from the nearest gas station.
Living off the land is not simple and is not easy.
Cooper Adams
Spoken like a true armchair quarterback who has never spent a week trying to sustain themselves.
James Reed
hes just building it on the weekends, his wife even packs him a lunch in tuperware :^)
Nathan Ortiz
necessary
the grid is weaponizable
Jackson Miller
I gather he's filming and when he goes back home he edits and uploads the video, but while he's there looks off grid to me. Course you have to take the time to watch a couple of the video to see what how's he's doing it.
Tho I don't know if you're using solar for any energy and wood to heat, using only the stuff on the land and some store bought nails and hand tools, living off the land and still have a wifi connection, that's still pretty off grid.
at least self-reliant.
There's a guy in Auckland living and building primitively, but he has to go home to upload his videos.
It's not like someone strolling by and singing the news or picking up a newspaper in town, so it's about as off the grid as one can comfortably be these days
Luis Collins
>8 the Amish live the way they do for religious reason. How could you not know that?
Jack Jones
There are laws in the US that allow you to do this tax free in certain areas.
this of course isn't for you
Noah Powell
maybe you guys aren't worth saving
Blake Diaz
He's not really off the grid. He said he uploads his damn videos at starbucks. He plans on getting real internet installed eventually. Also, My Self Reliance is comfy, but Joe Robinet is the a superior meme bushcrafter.
Jeremiah Cruz
>There are laws in the US that allow you to do this tax free in certain areas.
Bullshit. Cite State and cross reference State Statute that exempts land utilized as full time residence that can be exempted from local, county and state property tax.
Henry Russell
running out to the woods is the final blue pill. The kikes want all those who are redpilled to scurry off to some irrelvant backwater and focus on themselves. We need people in every level of government from county police and dmv clerks to senators and generals. Western countries are bureaucracies with redundancies built upon redundancies whose sole purpose is continuance of government, its not going to magically fail one day, and even if something were to happen, the usa would be the last country to feel it. Stop trying to get neets to move out of their parents basement and into the forest to die, push them into getting some kind of government job.
Dominic Ortiz
>red pill blue pill meme >wanting people to take you seriously
Joseph Long
this isn't a competition
Cameron Cox
>letting your reddit show so obviously how embarrassing you slut
Matthew Cruz
Agreed
Luke Young
nope, I'm not sharing that info with you I don't care if you don't believe me.
Carter Lopez
>calling people r*dditors >wanting people to take you seriously
Andrew Perry
Living off grid is not a LARP. Having a fallback pied a terre is not living the life. Using this as an exaple of how easy it would be to just move to the county and eat a lot of peaches is ignorant and deserves to be analysed critically.
Christian Wilson
Either you can back up your claims or not. It really should be as easy as posting a link.
Occam says you have nothing to back up your claim.
Michael Bennett
post self reliance info lads
Asher Kelly
>taking people seriously on a bootleg mongolian autistic friend simulator >ever user, i-
Robert Kelly
>muh amish Amish always had the right idea about avoiding the modern world, but their error was taking things literally. Yes we should disavow enlightenment liberalism, but that doesn't mean a traditional society cannot create and maintain modern conveniences. It is possible to have cool technological future scapes and a traditional theocratic monarchy; Such a state works all the time for alien species from science fiction, so this kind of world is not beyond our imagination. In fact the repeating trope tells us something about our psyche.
Nathaniel Bell
nope, I'm done with the alt-right, their larping and partying
There will never be any change cause white people lost their culture, they don't know anything other than drugs, porn and bitching on the internet.
you want to secede, take over a territory, then I might be interested, but at the rate things are going and the short term payoffs they collect and refuse to share, I'd rather build the new skilled community than suffer the rest of my life for a bunch of Millennial and Boomer trust-funders.
Beside Robots will do everything in the modern world anyway. Nature is better for humans
Brody Hall
No internet = No interest
Not interested in staring at wood all day
Kayden Perez
it's my dream, but i wouldn't be able to make it here without being murdered by drug lords roaming the countryside
Aaron Gonzalez
the thing about Sup Forums is, you think these nogs are not serious, but when you go on pol every day, you start to actually believe in this shit. sure, 90% of these nogs are LARPing, but a decent 10% aren't
Andrew Kelly
hahahaha
Robert Fisher
never said living off grid is a Larp and no one said this was easy, it is worthwhile, unlike just about every job you can think of in the US.
So go become a teacher or government worker, start another internet business, sell t-shirts and bumper stickers.
Parker Flores
nope, go research it yourself, you're rude disposition doesn't inspire me to help you one bit.
Asher Hernandez
Log cabins are so wasteful. You can make 3 or 4 houses of the same size if you cut the logs into lumber with pretty much no difference in insulation. But it's easier to do on your own and some people like the look.
Samuel Morris
I'm unironically doing this at the moment. More of a homestead really. Not completely off-grid yet as I still buy power and some food and I'm close enough to commute to and from college/work. Shit is a lot more expensive and labor intensive than you would imagine but extremely rewarding. I suggest you give it a shot, just don't expect to be completely off-grid immediately, got to ease into it a bit.
Justin Baker
yet the people who own you won't give you that option and more than half the country hates your guts.
You're losing European culture I'd like to find ways to preserve it. This is one.
Jose Wood
Shawn James is my waifu
Gabriel Hill
I'm sure subverting and raping amish women out of genetic existence is on the jewish bullet list, just not near the top because they don't vote.
Samuel Perez
>nope, go research it yourself, you're rude disposition doesn't inspire me to help you one bit.
In other words you can not produce a shred of evidence for your delusion, so you have to resort to deflection. Thanks for the fish and so long.
Andrew Clark
yeah, this guy was lucky he had the time he could take off to do this and the money to get the land, but this is just one example. It is a worthwhile endeavor especially when you think of the drug crisis and empty lives most Americans live.
I don't think it will solve all our problems, but it could put a dent in some of them.
Lucas Cook
>never said living off grid is a Larp
Most who do say they are living off grid or aspire to do so have got no clue and are LARPing.
I homestead. I have empirical evidence that wannabes don't last.
Logan Reed
you have two choices becomes like (((them))) or preserve European culture.
Tyler James
you're not worth it
Zachary Perry
so your advice is don't bother trying
good luck
Dominic Bailey
It's not as fun as it sounds. But it's good to get away and learn how to not go completely insane by yourself.
Joseph Evans
Amish only care about Jesus anyways
Adrian Long
To be honest. Id be happy with a house like this. All id need is a rifle to hunt or a bow, and some crops. The bare necessities.
>so your advice is don't bother trying My advice is to educate yourself before you do. This advice is being pushed by someone who probably has never done an hours worth of manual labor in their life. Homesteading will require days of double digit hours spent toiling physically. Then there is the money issue. Taxes do not disappear rurally. How long can you live off savings?
Last year a couple from out of state did exactly what is being suggested here. Cash out and move to the country onto 3 acres. They lasted 4 months.
It is fine to dream, delusions are not healthy.
Sebastian Perry
>To be honest. Id be happy with a house like this. All id need is a rifle to hunt or a bow, and some crops. The bare necessities.
Case in point. How many calories will you need per day in the sticks? Have you equated that to an acreage of plant material that you need to raise? How do you provide plant material in the months the ground is frozen? Have you ever tried to preserve food?
Have you ever hunted? This area you move to, are you sure there is enough game for you and the rednecks to share? Do you realise that most states restrict hunting of game animals to about two months a year? How are you going to preserve a years worth of protein? Or are you willing to live off of coyote, which has an extended season. Or perhaps you are familiar with how to process a porcupine, which generally few states protect and you can cull year round.
It is one thing to watch Live Free or Die on NatGeo and think I could do that. That show and their ilk are heavily edited for entertainment purposes.
Lastly, how many of you dreaming of moving to the simple life have actually processed an animal? Can you avoid the bile sac, intestine and bladder such that you do not contaminate your protien source?
Tyler Davis
Once you built the house, can they take it down?
Connor Cruz
>>>
so your advice is don't bother trying just keep working that government job or for some empty corporation
his house is in Canada, no idea tho there might be exceptions, I haven't watched all the videos yet
Brody Cruz
>Can you avoid the bile sac, intestine and bladder such that you do not contaminate your protien source? anyone that cannot do this should have to eat them
Camden Bennett
the first one is ugly the 2nd is informative
Connor King
>so your advice is don't bother trying
My advice is not to try, but to do. Doing takes so much more than hanging out online and watching youtube videos, identifying and thinking you can become self sufficient.
I think that the vast majority that try with that level of research are going to lose their hard saved funds and wind up with their tail between their legs. Have seen it more than once.
My advice is before you get all keyboard warrior you should be a woofer for a season. That at least would dispell any illusions you have and not leave you poor, in debt and having to ask for shelter from your parents.
Joshua Stewart
First one includes holes for electrical outlets etc. or easier routing and looks cleaner.
Gabriel Reyes
Another case in point. Just from the still image of the first video I can see approx 10k in site work, another 25k in foundation and at least 20 k of highly surfaced pine.
People just do not integrate under the curve...
Jacob Butler
>crtl+f >"cuckshed" Oh sweet the Jews aren't here yet. I'm living in a cabin/tiny house out near a lake in the woods. It's nice. Not off the grid, but would certainly fare better in a happening than people in the city.
Luke Fisher
tho quick, I think this is a pretty good representation of the American psyche
the idea of the US becoming 80% white again and breaking lose of the bankers and MSM grip seems all but hopeless. this is very valuable information. thanks
Nathaniel Perez
>anyone that cannot do this should have to eat them I do eat the intestine. Time consuming to clean, but you have never had a better sausage than an animal ground up and cooked in its own entrails.
Henry Garcia
>woofer I assume you meant "roofer," and yeah, everybody should take on hard labor to prepare themselves for that kind of lifestyle change.
Hunter Reyes
okay old man
Jaxson Adams
So is anyone going to make a home in Yukon like this by the lakes? No one goes there.
Austin Nguyen
I'm beginning to think the alt-right is a distraction
At least you would come away with a real understanding of how many calories an acre can produce and how to bring a crop to harvest.
People have so long been removed from how to "make" food, they think you just need to plant a seed and harvest it. Soil dynamics are a bitch and converting raw land into a bio-dynamic habitat can take a decade or more. Simply thinking you are going to check out, buy some land, raise a shelter, clear a garden, remove competing plants, hunt and still have time to create a value added product to keep the tax man at bay are not being realistic.
Cameron Anderson
im living on the grid and making sure i'm worth 2 mil by 50 so i can live the rest of my years in absolute relaxation
Henry Adams
most modern people are waaay too soft for the harsh reality of truly off grid living manual labor all day every day you can't do it alone either if you are serious about disconnecting 100% you can only be one place at a time and there are too many things that need to be done on a given day you will need a family at least and it takes a lot of land to support a family even at a sustenance level i do truly believe that this style of living is the inevitable future but the raw amount of land required necessitates a massive reduction in global population first if you don't already own a significant amount of land suitable for cultivation you are part of the 90%+ that won't make it
Matthew Cooper
>So is anyone going to make a home in Yukon like this by the lakes?
Not without a great deal of outside inputs. Are you going to purchase a used excavator to do site prep? Are you going to create forms and pour your own footer and foundation walls? Where is your concrete coming from? Are you going to buy a portable saw mill to mill logs into dimensional lumber or large beams? Have you ever felled a tree with a chainsaw, then limbed and bucked it. Can you actually drop enough trees in the house site to mill all the lumber you need without having to go further on the property? If not, how are you going to skid the logs to your build site.
Noone integrates under the curve...
Jayden Barnes
I was getting all hyped up for building my cabin in the woods and becoming a self- reliant woodsman.
And then I looked at how much property costs even in the middle of nowhere. Jews man. Get ready to spend like 20k for a single fucking acre thats three hours from civilization
Tyler King
cool
Parker Lee
I like the idea of sustainable community living. course not the whole tribe all in one hut, but perhaps closer to the Amish without the religion. Course there needs to be a set of ethics and the more I think about it a particular philosophy, but it may be too late.
Brody Barnes
How do you maintain personal hygiene when living off the grid?
John Peterson
you might want to watch his video on how he did it.
Noah Parker
>Get ready to spend like 20k for a single fucking acre
Someone is starting to do their homework. Not all is lost. If you are truly intent on doing this, you can find land that is more affordable. I have 90 odd acres and only paid 500 an acre.
How is this possible? The real estate market is rigged to pull as much out of you as possible, so they really over evaluate the lots that will make the bare minimum for frontage and acreage minimum for a year round residence. Generally this is around 3 acres and 600'. When you buy in bulk, you get economies of scale. You really need to by buying 60-100 acres.
You also need that much to support sylvanculture, plant matter for human consumption and pasture land for protien and finnally land for the value added product you trade for fiat currency to pay your taxes, vehicle registration and the items you can not grow or produce.
Most homesteads can not produce salt, spices, fibre for clothing etc. Self sufficiency is much more complicated that it appears.
Eli Powell
where the hell are you looking?
Adam Thompson
disconnection is the ultimate destruction of the white race. if you live off the grid yet do not stay in contact with other whites through telecommunications you may as well say you gave up on the white race
Brandon White
he says he sponge bathes and swims in the river/lake, but he's going to build a proper bathroom for the wife and kids come spring
Aaron Rogers
>you might want to watch his video on how he did it.
I don;t need to watch the video, and no, I am not coping out. I have done sitework. I have done foundation work and poured concrete. I have erected conventional stick built structures as well as timber frames. That video does not represent off grid living. It also does not represent frugal homesteading. It does show you how to spend about 50k to get a pad cleared, foundation poured, and a kit home from a retail operation delivered. Hope all his roofing is included and not pictured, add 20k in materials. Then there is the millwork (doors and windows) plumbing, electrical, septic.
Average septic system from design to install= 30k
Did he dig his well, or drill it?
The list goes on....
Juan Lopez
Fug
Jeremiah Diaz
Neat, I didn't know programs like this existed.
Yeah, this whole "don't be discouraging" thing is fucking insane. It's like you said, delusions should not be encouraged.
It is hard. Unimaginably hard.
You can do it, but it will take years of research and on-hand experience in manual labor and agricultural knowledge. To say nothing of the ABSOLUTE INSANITY THAT IS ANIMAL HUSBANDRY. Literally the most difficult subject to master successfully without being constantly at risk of absolute catastrophe and disease.
Yeah, people who haven't grown up in this environment really must dedicate ten years to simply learning what they would have needed to learn in their formative years to be capable of living this life.
As someone who lives it ... IT. IS. FUCKING. HARD.
Jayden Butler
yeah, it's pretty much over, the so called leaders have nothing to offer.
they want you to fund them and larp march and they are having a grand ol time in their clubhouse.
they are not open to secession or as many woke people as possible moving to one state and taking political control. All they are doing is waiting for the Boomers to die while they complain and build nothing. Kinda like Bernie Sanders.
Makes you wonder who side they are really on
Nathan Flores
>he's going to build a proper bathroom for the wife and kids come spring
Then he really is LARPing. Off grid is not hot and cold running water.
Now, lets get into one of my favorite topics, flush toilets. If you have one you are not off grid. So what do you do with your poo? I have been doing this for almost 20 years: humanurehandbook.com/
Do you have the wherewithall to actually deal with your void materials and not flush and forget it? A clean human does not produce waste, they produce an input that when composted thermophilically can be used to grow edible crops. This is not Night Soil from the orient. Read before you react/
Liam Richardson
he built the whole thing by himself off the land it sits on -
don't watch it, you know everything already
Julian Gomez
I wonder what the optimum future will be when there is full automation. Will people seek a self reliant lifestyle in the countryside to give themselves purpose?
We wouldn't need to set technological progress back if we left production to machines/computers and we could live how we are supposed to as natural beings. We wouldn't need to go full kazynski to fulfil our biological purpose. We could still enjoy some of the benefits of modern tech (energy, guns, instant knowledge, transport) and we wouldn't be dominated by outsiders.
And it might be a bit more to make something to sit on. Here's mine.
Carson Powell
>9
I've been to a number of cabins that use solar to heat the water and even provide electricity for a fridge washer, dryer and cell phones.
again with solar there are electric toilets that turn your poo to dust. Further many people out here in the sticks have a septic tank, some have tried working with septic filters and then treating it, in order to bury it, tho I think human wast is not something that should be put on crops like milorganite is. btw Mexico is big when it comes to using human waste to fertile their crops. The solar electric method would seem to be the best solution for this family.
I'm not saying this is what he will use I haven't gotten that far in his videos to know, maybe he doesn't know yet.
The last video on the 10th said he would stop building right here if it was just him, but he will do something to make it more comfortable for the wife and kids. So let's see what he comes up with to deal with the remaining off grid
Aaron Carter
you know I wonder why more people don't do this considering the popularity of shit like minecraft.
Luke Phillips
yes,
and I agree with Bucky, but people are greedy so I'm not hold out much hope for the future right now.
“We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.”
-R Buckminster Fuller
Aaron Peterson
Because in my estimation over 75% that do find out the hard way that jumping into agriculture/animal husbandry/self sufficiency is fraught with complexities heretofore never imagined.
Being responsible for your calories from breaking earth to storing them in a root cellar is a huge learning curve.
Alexander Robinson
the life of a NEET is fully automated by other people, what happens when everyone on the planet ends up a NEET thanks to robots? one way or the other its back to nature again
Brayden Wright
informative, but I don't like the notion of using human waste on food
if it was used for flowers I'm okay with that or far away trees.
If this is the video maker there are a few spiritual reason not to use human waste in the garden if you're interested I'll elaborate or perhaps we can communicate another way off pol and youtube
Daniel Cooper
>What are some ways to make money while you're off grid?
Even if yo uhave internet, living off grid implies geographic remoteness. You are not going to be able to order inputs off the internet, UPS them to your cabin and then value add. Off grid you trap for hides/furs, act as a hunting guide for rich assholes or possible harness a niche form of agriculture like medicinal herbs.
Homesteading broadens your horizons into animal husbandry, annual and perennial agriculture.
Andrew Wilson
I believe there will only be a select few jobs that humans can fulfil when full automation comes about. Cities will remain production hubs. Those who stay will continue living a life of pure consumerism and gluttony.
Things like guns, materials to build, tools, internet, self relying energy sources will be distributed so people can be self sustainable. I don't know what will happen to the idea of money once no-one is making an income or if we build a small economy based on secondary things that humans can make or provide i.e. clothes, jewellery, home wares and haircuts.
It's interesting to think about.
Eli Harris
Thank you, this. If race politics and over bearing government exist then atomization is a death sentence. What is the point in being pro-social/cultural if you are going to be anti-social? It is not just about DNA but about data, structure, statement, ideal.
This might be a great idea when attached to a sustainable hub city that can trade/get resources from the outside world. But the ability to propagate and develop is incredibly low with this method. where are the experts and specialists?
There is some truth in dialectic materialism but it ignors Idealism. This does the opposite, it is a "safe space".
Nathaniel King
what you have in the garden, canned organic goods, game if you hunt/fish. If you have bees there's honey and wax. If you grow flax or even hemp endless possibilities. I know a family that makes a very good living in the woods collecting mushrooms, growing garlic and making raw milk butter.
but money is secondary, living culturally is what's important.
