Latin America is ready to replace China; we can be the factory of the world, with less pollution and better quality. So...

Latin America is ready to replace China; we can be the factory of the world, with less pollution and better quality. So, why is America giving more power to China, when they are a threat for this world?

Put up or shut up sub-mexicans.

Deal with China made by cartel globalists long ago to spread out our dependency. This kills our chance at being independent. What can you do when you depend on manufacturing a world away? You are held hostage.

Because we latins while of european descent come from both spain and italy were the winters are not that cold.
This means that retards survived and expanded their genetics in the population.
Leading for a surpluss of short thinking retards , while in northern europe short term thinking idiots got killed by winter.

This means that latin america has a tendency for demand gibs once prosperity happens , this kills prosperity and the long term thinking comes again , until the masses demand gibs again.

This makes it hard for long term investments.

we wuz prosperous n sheit

It's really that they just bought into neoliberal economics which wrecked their economies and others bought into socialism... which also wrecked their economies. At this point they're just kind of gormless and fumbling around not sure what to do with the glut of bad advice.

I'd honestly rather see you guys take the reigns over China. Just make sure you crush socialism in Venezuela in the process.

You got it mostly right but wrong , they got into socialist policies which led them to have colossal inflations.
This leads them to poverty and stagnation and eventually revolts.
This leads to them needing money fast to renew their economeis which leads them to neoliberal policies (applied by commie parties that needed money).
And then they mantained currency controls and price controls while privatizing everything , which leaded again to statism.

It´s just what i said above >prosperity>gibs>prosperity>gibs>prosperity>gibs

Socialism in Venezela will crush Socialism in latin america.

Socialism is just a painfull road from capitalism to anarchocapitalism

we can also export high quality white males and extremely crazy and histeric white females

The thing that you're missing is that no all latin countries adopted socialism, only some of them. Argentina, for example, used to be one of the world's wealthiest countries but then they became the poster-child for neoliberal reforms which wrecked their economy.

Also welfare=/=socialism. Welfare isn't even a socialist invention.

Latin America may be ready. But the people that live there are not.

In case you haven't been paying attention, China is replacing the US and the UE as LatinAmerica main business "partner". Both left and right wing fags love China here and are selling us the same way they are doing with Africa.

Amerimutts are so retarded that rather than investing here and keeping us happy as a puppy with a couple of bones, they are allowing China to be right at their door step.

No latin american country applied neoliberal reforms except chile.
The rest privatized shit and mantained price controls of those "public goods" and some like uruguay did not even privatize shit.
Argentina for example before the neoliberal reforms was having inflation of about 3000% per year to give you a thing to compare venezuela right now is having 2300%.

Argentina survived because those reforms but the damage was done and the reform was done by the peronist party that mantained price controls and a currency control with a fixed currency.
While a true neoliberal economy has a free currency exchange and no price controls.

How argentina survived that shit shows the power of economic liberalism.
I don´t think for example that venezuela can survive their inflation even if it´s less than what argentina had.
Why?Because they have been nationalizing shit to give gibs.
No one will invest them unless they give every investor 100 slave waifus and serfs because the truth is that argentina and brasil neoliberal policies saved their countries but their inflation crisis was because gibs and spending.

Venezuela is because gibs and collectivization of private goods.
No one will invest there.

>Latin America is ready to replace China
You are too mentally unstable

give up the ham portugal

spicy hispanic women and cocaine does not negate the fact that latin america for the most part is corrupt as shit and everyone is broke except politicians and druglords. most of the countries down there have a very very long way to go to even be close to competitive with North America or europe.

>Tfw no peronista gf
Why even live?

You are too small to be relevant, Brazil is more important and powerful.

Sure, after we fix the commie problem.

Funny how our ex economy minister said he followed Keynes while not understanding him at all, he just persued an expansionist policy, no concern for the future, so no savings in good times in preparation for possible bad times.

At the same time you have to undersantd the political environment here, they gave out free money to a lot of people and kept populist policies to, in the end, take power like maduro did, changing the constitution and the enitre country to fit their scheme to steal as much money as possible from the population.

oh i understand it , i am one of those paying the gibs , i was talking in third person refering to latin american economies as a whole.

>Argentina for example before the neoliberal reforms was having inflation of about 3000%
No, that was during and after. Inflation also had periods much higher than 3k% because of neoliberal policies.

>While a true neoliberal economy has a free currency exchange and no price controls.
They didn't use price controls and you clearly don't know what a fixed exchange rate is, or does.

>How argentina survived that shit shows the power of economic liberalism.
Haha Ohwowlol. Is that why they're a debt and inflation riddled mess?

>the truth is that argentina and brasil neoliberal policies saved their countries
Brazil didn't adopt much in the way of neoliberal reforms, it's why they've been able to begin rebounding after the relatively recent corruption scandals and such a few years back. While their policy is far from perfect, they're practically a paragon of good policy compared to most of their neighbors.

>Venezuela is because gibs and collectivization of private goods
Venezuela has actually gone down the road of socialism, albeit not fully--they're trying to maintain the pretense of market mechanics and the systems are in conflict.

and they sold all their debt to american hedge funds. not exactly the greatest idea.

I'd like to come visit argentina and uruguay some day, too bad tickets are so fucking expensive versus flying to the EU or Japan from the US.

I would love to see you savages better yourselves, but we both know the odds on that.

You don't need a wall, people from Chile don't need a visa to go to the US, I am sure peruvian-chileans and brown chileans are moving to the US,

>No, that was during and after. Inflation also had periods much higher than 3k% because of neoliberal policies.

No after the neoliberal policies the highest inflation was 46% in 2015

>They didn't use price controls and you clearly don't know what a fixed exchange rate is, or does.

The currency was forced 1ARS/1USD even tough the market price was 3ARS/1USD the central bank mantained the currency low by inserting dollars in the economy to mantain it´s parity.
Dollars earned i may say by taking debt and selling the state assets

>Haha Ohwowlol. Is that why they're a debt and inflation riddled mess?

The inflation is because the (((keynesian))) goverment that lasted until lately , the debt was reduced from 110% of gdp to 45% due to economic growth in the post reform years.

>Brazil didn't adopt much in the way of neoliberal reforms, it's why they've been able to begin rebounding after the relatively recent corruption scandals and such a few years back. While their policy is far from perfect, they're practically a paragon of good policy compared to most of their neighbors.

True but they did in some major industries , but they are not a paragon in good policy , only their fiscal policies are good , their entire welfare state was a disaster that unbalanced birth rates to the point that the middle class does not reproduce anymore and the gibs class is non stop growing.
This is why most of the world dangerous cities are now in brasil , when this was not the case before.

>Venezuela has actually gone down the road of socialism, albeit not fully--they're trying to maintain the pretense of market mechanics and the systems are in conflict.

On this you are absolutely correct ,they usually collectivized every company in each industry except one which is used to blame for the problems in said industry , example polar.

>No latin american country applied neoliberal reforms except chile.
We did.
Now we are some step from being a full blown ANCAP PARADISE.
I mean, the goverment can't even stop fusions that will results in obvious monopolies

How affordable are recreational child slaves over there?

Depends on the region.
You can really cheap one in the jungle.

Paying higher is not exactly bad and earning more is not exactly better.
There are way too many factors to consider.
For example
argentina has the highest minimum wage of the region(around 450 usd).
While chile has 350usd.

Yet 350 usd in chile are worth more than 450 usd in argentina due to the high taxes you can´t buy shit in argentina with that , while in chile you can buy lot´s of things.

Peru has:
!_Constant economic growth
2_Ridiculously low unemployment
3_More exports than imports
4_Incredibly fast growing gdp per capita
5_Ridiculous low inflation for 5% economic growth

Say what you want about your policies but your country was a shithole 20 years ago.
Now people are moving to it , and your people are growing narcisitic about it to the point you mistreat venezuelans as trash.
So yeah you are well on the path to an ancap paradise while the mercosur benevolent welfare states are stagnant and marxist venezuela is going full holodomor.

In 2004 we didn't have a lot of choices, the money was used pretty nicely to try and recover the economy that was in the absolute toilet, the fact they later tried to bail out on it was a disaster, not the best way to attract investment when you do shady shit like that, even more so when you are allied to Venezuela and they expropiate companies on the daily. Luckly that is changing slowly.

As far as travel goes, it's very nice, don't come to the Buenos Aires in the summer, patagonia is really nice tho, really recomended.

Wanna make a political party and win an election user?

Tickets are going down fast next year , too many new airlines entering the market and those already here are adding more flights.

China owns a shitload of land and natural resources in South America. Plus debt. Plus heavy investments ( they can strongarm policies all around in these parts ). List goes on, and on. And on.

Let us delve into the race problem ? Lazy niggers all around. Mixed people prone to leftism and gibs. 90% of the population think only short term. IQ is dropping specially in brazil ( due to mixing ). Our economies are all fucked, and our main buyer is China. Goes on.

It is easier for the american to build a global white etnostate than South American amounting to anything. This guy gets it

No i want to bring the state down , i can tolerate that those faggot politicians can have 300 secretaries paid by the public , free flights , free gibs and on top of that they want to give more power to the state and take it form the people.

The system is sick and can only be fixed from outside as it will corrupt anyone inside.
A libertarian party would be a good idea , yet when there was one in capital i was one of the 300 morons that voted them ,the rest of the population vote for people that keep telling how much are they going to do for you(which means prepare your anus we are going to tax you 100%)

Pic related is what the welfare state is doing to argentina .
Tax by tax slowly destroying the quality of life day per day.

>i can´t

>No after the neoliberal policies the highest inflation was 46% in 2015
Lol, I knew you didn't know anything about the situation. Neoliberal reforms started ostensibly in ~1983 after the military dictatorship, but even earlier if you count the financial neoliberal reforms during the dictatorship. Effectively, the neoliberal reforms created a balance of payments (BoP) problem that created hyperinflation *before* they pegged the currency, and the persistent BoP deficit created a currency crisis *after* the peg.

>The currency was forced 1ARS/1USD
What is dollarization

>the market price was 3ARS/1USD
Wrong.

>the central bank mantained the currency low
Wrong, you have it ass-backwards.

> inserting dollars in the economy to mantain it´s parity
see above. Just, omg. Wow. You have no clue how a fixed exchange rate system operates.

>The inflation is because the (((keynesian))) goverment that lasted until lately
Lolno.

>the debt was reduced from 110% of gdp to 45% due to..
Debt haircuts with the foreign debt holders along with more prudence to paying bondholders over other obligations.

>but they are not a paragon in good policy
Read my qualifiers again.

Agreed, also a lot of uneducated people all around, no matter the race, that makes the situation even worse, more chances that the population will be manipulated by the politicians.

Aren't Brazil and Venezuela collapsing right now?

I am not saying that I hate it.
Sadly, it is too fucking savage for most of the mutts here and they end up going to other countries.
>You don't have health care unless you work
>"""""public""""" is in fact multiple private business each one holding a particular route and competiting with each other in the retarded way.
>0 gibs unless you a dirt poor 90% ameri indian
>70% taxe evasion that cause the goverment being unable to renew our infrastructure and has to rely on a 18% VAT, high import taxes and tendering for 20-40 to private contractors
Basically.
If you don't work, you don't eat and you 0 safety net from society/country

>>"""""public"""""
I mean public transportation

I was part of that libertarian party, we did all we could, but eventually it got consumed by PRO. And yeah, the fact that basically we are paying to give a bunch of politicians to sit all day and have their luxury vacations payed is a total travesty, meanwhile our population is every day more uneducated, prone to manipulation, really sad, we need a good old french style revolution.

Venezuela yes, Brazil looks a little better now, depends a lot on Lula running for president or not.

>You are too small to be relevant, Brazil is more important and powerful.
This is sarcasm right? Brazil isn't even a real country. Their entire government is working for foreign interests, they have no military, most of their natural resources are too polluted for consumption, and the continuous mixing of ethnicities is driving their IQ down and creating domestic problems.

Brazil just went through the worst economic depression in its existence, while simultaneously having all the corruption in their government being disclosed publicly. Their unemployment went from like 6% in 2015 to almost 15% now. They lost over a third of their gdp per capita. Their economy is in free fall, their environment is polluted as fuck, and the people are on the edge of revolting against their government. Brazil is a step away from total societal failure.

the capital flight in brazil is extreme. every corrupt politician and businessman is busy buying up all the property in Miami to offshore their money. Vale and Petrobas, despite recent gains, are both in the shitter financially.

good goy

If we delve into culture and education we might kill ourselves. Blacks and mixed are just ( a decent ) part of the problem, even whites here are majority wiggers and white trash.

Venezuela is a failed state, already collapsed. Brazil is a more complex matter, but is a declining in vertiginous fashion. Our government is one of the most corrupt ones and fake data all around, I guarantee we are in worse shape than the data shows. We had more mass shooting than any other country, but our government use specific words to hide it ( just google chacina ).
The americans above me are all correct.

As anecdotal evidence every brazilian that has any sort of capital is moving to the US or Canada, even illegally, Plus the garbage from the other countries are pouring in. And in Brazil illegals can use any and ALL DORMS OF SOCIAL WELFARE.

>tldr;whites can't control their beasts
If whites can't manage a bunch of spics, how do you expect to take on kikes? Fucking weaklings

>Their economy is in free fall
I hate to disappoint but its stabilized.

Inflation has fallen from ~11% down to ~2.8%, they have a trade surplus of ~$6b now, a relatively minor current account deficit that sometimes swings into surplus, USD/BRL went from ~4 down to ~3.18 now, capital flows are balanced more-or-less, and quarterly GDP growth has rebounded to ~1.5%. It's not perfect, but it's stable.

Nah, we are just too corrupt, every country the spaniards made is a shithole, including spain

What solution can we apply? our nations are pretty similar, at least in terms of some of the problems we face.

Why Brazilians don't move to other south american countries but people from these countries move here?

Too much rede globo?

We can do it bro, just need to be united. Also we `produce clean food that has more value every day.

>Asspain
>White

>just need to be united.
No, we need a total balkanization.
These "countries" are nothing but a left over from colonial times that we have been to lazy to dismantle.

Latin America is the result of a plantation culture taken to its inevitable endpoint. A mulatto continent bred from slaves, for generation upon generation. Now your overseers are powerless, you have descended into a continent of rampant corruption, cruelty and poverty. You will never amount to anything, your third world abyss serves its only purpose as a lesson in the mortal danger of uncontrolled racial mixing.

you fucking stupid reditor shut the fuck marxist scum, Argentina has failed many times for it being a statist shithole

Latin america is fucking doomed unless we kill each other and leave only the smart cultural people standing. Socialism and fucking politicians rip off every single citizen. If governments didnt steal from the people we would be an advanced superpower in the world

lol

I love you Peru